Sorry I don’t find Mark remotely funny…and extremely biased. The genesis is an amazing brand ….German brands are NOT reliable and endless money Pitts. Mark get a new Job…I cannot enjoy a biased review. There is no way you can convince me that there are no merits you can give the genesis.

@@PsychicMedium4747 I agree with your sentiment about the review, but a lot of people lease now and nothing is going wrong with a Mercedes or even a BMW in just 3 years which is why the Germans own the luxury car market. Yeah long term a BMW is not a good bet, but a Mercedes isn't as bad. Genesis isn't proven long term yet, especially these new models. I agree though the Genesis does have a lot going for it that was missed here. I don't count this is a serious comparison.

I would take the Genesis.

@@StephenWillcox Why not KIA Telluride? for 30% less?

@@PsychicMedium4747 Yeah I know the background. The ex BMW engineer's skills hasn't shown up in Genesis vehicles yet, they're not sporty at all outside of the G70. Yes I agree they 're really nice vehicle, they're killing it right now. Really nice interiors for sure, but their quality isn't proven. They're too many recalls for fires and odors so there is still work to do.

Go find another video that confirms your own bias towards the GV80 then, and stop being a little b!tch here. I didn't see anything here with these guys being too heavily invested in anything other than objectivity

@@GaryDownes It would appear that public opinion is trending strongly against you.

I'm surprised this isn't a MotorTrend review. This is exactly what they do when they compare anything to a Mercedes product. The Mercedes is always a shining beacon of "do no wrong" automotive genius, and anything they compare it to is just adequate in comparison. Wonder how much Mercedes pays these reviewers...?

@@GaryDownes it’s also funny that talk about plastic when Mercedes loves using it too

Mercedes is the best stop crying guys .. I own a glc 300 2020 .. I’m looking to buy the gle .. dealer say they have a shortage .. I still waiting

I agree…he is so damn biased and I don’t find him remotely funny. He needs to be fired. Terrible representation for Edmunds.

Agree. Plus he's gone full 1980's with goatee & ponytail.

This guy needs to go work for MotorTrend, they also have a huge Mercedes bias.

@@mattspeer01 I agree and they aren’t even reliable. I would hate to spend lots of money on something that is not reliable

Could not agree more! This video was a fail.

Lol!

That says it all if ( I assume) GV70 fan uses that kind of derogatory arguments and comments. Not sure if you watch reviews by Doug Demuro? Not long time ago he got super deal from KIA on Stinger GT and gave it super initial review. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mrF7dtCYzsmcdps.html However he sold it about year after and also published his opinions after a year of ownership. His key point was that car was OK - not as good as BMW or MB where Kia aimed at but definitely worth the money for Kia enthusiasts. Why did he sell it? Mainly because of Kia Badge and friends comments so he was embarrassed to dive and show it to friends. Do you see many of them on the road ?. I don't. What is more interesting that he pulled this video since. I suspect that Kia did not like it? It is going to take time before Genesis will disconnect - if ever, from Hyundai and Kia and its name becomes symbol of "luxury" like Lexus.

I think they were just trying to illustrate that most people are brand snobs and would not look at the GV80 regardless of what it offers.

@@chessiem6647 Doug demuro is a buffoon! He's a Quentin Tarantino wannabe!

Yeah seriously, I'd pick the GV80, X5 then Mercedes in that order. If I wanted something performance I'd spec out the M X5 . The GV80 is really not a performance car, it's mainly luxury with some performance features.

Not only that I think it looks the best. The germans just do same boring crap over and over again.

@@ctk4949 they definitely do, it's good but come on for those prices give me the best!

@@layne4376 Meh pretty sure its faster than the gle 4cyl!! lol If you really want performance, then you should get the Porsche SUVs. Also does quality mean reliability?? Just because they use fancy stuff on the interior doesnt mean its going to be reliable. Pretty sure the Genesis will be more reliable.

And the only problem is its badge.. Imagine visiting friends and bragging you just got a new luxury SUV? And they want to see it.... Can you imagine the rest? O.... whow Genesis.. what's that? Isn't that a Hyundai? LOL Nice, congrats. Lets go back home . :)))

@@chessiem6647 with chick fanatics elites like that friends BIGO

the koreans and japanese don't have a good history with each other.

LOL I am sure they offered a deal to Hyundai before publishing this and they did not match MB price :L)

@@chessiem6647 LOL hey Mark you mad everyone's roasting you in the comments?

Agreed. The GV80 door panels have ZERO hard plastic. All of it is at the minimum soft touch or squishy. Actually the top part of the GV80 door panels has leather/leatherette whereas the GLE has soft touch plastic. Not sure how they think the Genesis has more plastic when it 100% does not. Except maybe in some places like the door jams is my best guess. Forget about genesis, I remember comparing a new 43K Santa Fe Calligraphy to a 65K BMW X3 M40i. The Hyundai has better materials and stitching on the dash, along the center console, on the door panels, but similar on the actual center armrest compartment. The BMW is mostly just a flat soft touch plastic on most of the door panels and everywhere whereas as the Hyundai had nice stitching all around and more leatherette covering the same parts. I think if you get the upgraded leather or whatever on the BMW it is better, but its still feels cheap overall given the price. ESPECIALLY now that the GV70 has materialized and even a base model blows a X3M comps interior out of the park.

It depends what "value" you talking about Once you cross the $50k car price we should not talk $ "Value" as you paying much more and mainly for brand and image than for additional or better "anything" technical. Loaded" KIA gives you 75% or more what MB offers for 50% of its price - and that is a value proposition. These cars are not value but luxury vehicles and are not aimed at people who are looking for value but for these who have extra money to spend because they can and want.

I feel like most ppl buying these kind of cars don’t care about value that’s ur Toyota Corolla shoppers, highly doubt someone buying a $60k+ midsize luxury suv cares about value

@@chessiem6647 Exactly and considering you buy lux to show off there is no way I'd be tryin to pimp a Kia

Lincoln aviator is way better than this genesis, more hp and costs even less

Genesis dealerships and service are now historically horrible and they are proving unreliable since this review.

You already know. I don't know why they brought him back for this episode. I like him the mustang videos

I think they were being silly where he is playing a pretentious person who only looks at certain brands, being a brand snob.

He's Japanese, so he probably really hates Genesis.

@@lm1314 You're asking the internet to detect nuance and subtext. Good luck.

@@joec.5009 not as much as I hate Japanese shitboxes. Their interior is lazy and built for old people.

Agreed. This was honestly one of the worst car reviews I watched this year

They have to get rid of the oriental guy, he's awful.

I agree, very smooth 6 in line on the mercedes. The ride of this genesis is kinda unsettled

I love my GV80 Prestige! I'm coming from a Mercedes S Class that definitely "Thousand dollared" me to death! I still love Mercedes tho. Probably wouldn't buy another one any time soon.

Speaking he truth!

GV80 hasn't been on the market long enough for proof of long-term reliability,

@@gestebu Exactly! I, see a LIAR.

They have done great job. GV is pretending to be in same class but it is not as good as BMW or MB. It is cheaper and as they described it - it is for these who can't afford MB or BMW bcouse additional $10k but want to have Luxury SUV ( which will be also reliable as cost is a critical parameter).

@@chessiem6647 MB and BMW are giving discounts on the cars. Genesis doesn’t. Price difference after discount is $2-3k. If you are spending over $50k on a luxury car and worry about $3k then you can’t afford this class of car.

@@chrisak49 Agree.

Nah, you're just pissed that you bought the cheapest used BMW that was ragged (hense why it was cheap) and want to bitch because you wanted a luxury German vehicle, but did want to pay for it. My wife's X5 is 320,000kms and going strong. Your FOS

Had a VW for 9 years and trade for VW for 13 years. Loved those cars. Traded up for Audi. I know someone who had a Toyota MR2 that dealer's repair guy told her get rid of it at 6 months. She had a lemon. I know people who had issues with their Accords. A person has had issues with their Kia since during first year. Sometimes you get a bad car no matter what brand.

Well, I have 2003 X5 and is still looking and driving like it was new and there are no plans to get rid if it.

And all over KZfaq everyone always praising how great the ZF 8 speed transmission is. But real owners are having issues. So its really not a good transmission.

@@GaryDownes thanks troll. You are a very angry person. Enjoy your BMW.

Who cares? Reliability and resale value, right (according to Toyota/Lexus fanboys).

@@ivanlowjones Don't forget the comfort, which I value most for such big family SUVs. I will choose RX over these three any day of the week.

Besides selling large numbers of them; a redesign is coming next year

Lexus is selling their cars to their loyal customers who want Lexus. Same with BMW and Porsche.

@@kevinbarry71 because they are dirt cheap compared to these real luxury brands. Lexus, Acura and Infinite are premium brands.

Love mines too!

I didn't make it past 2 minutes! Mark is an A-hole!

@@genesisg7022 No wonder :) G70

@@chessiem6647 ...cute

GLE doesn’t creaks dum

Agreed, Mercedes’ is the biggest scam on the market, cheapest build quality.

@@MJ-lt5yv dude, at this moment u are just hating the car company and nothing else

Not true

*mercedes

Just no.

Agreed.

You buy cars based on how they look?

@@chessiem6647 Absolutely. I wouldn’t spend money on a Pontiac Aztec.

I had many mercedes since 1987 or my father B4 I was born. I test drove a gv70. They sold me on it. I think is the value they present. 3 year maintenance free. No vehicle markup. 1.9% financing. Drives like a dream. I love my ml63, GL550 but this smaller gv70 won me over. Oil change is $500-700 for German cars. It's like the lexus ls400 all over again. But it's the Korean.. With the pandemic why you want your neighbors to see you in a shiny new BMW or Mercedes.. It's the best value for now. I don't own my cars more then 100k miles. So why worry about the quality.. The brand is so hot, if I don't like it I can sell it. It's a win win! Test drive it and tell the salesman you need it for a long test drive. It won me over. 800 miles on the odometer.. Loving every moment of it. Sold my 2014 e63 wagon. Lost 60k. But still have enough to buy this gv70! My 2 cent.

@@chrisak49 I mean come on.. no one wants an Aztec 😂

@@chessiem6647 you prefer ugly cars?

Thank you!

@@litespeed65 it’s not what you say. But how you deliver your message. The arrogant and condescending tone, comes across annoying. I don’t care if he’s a fanboy or not FYI

Yes ….a Mercedes’ quack

That guy is some kind of typical merc drivers. That's why I don't own or drive a merc, just test drive and step away from it lol

One of the reviewers is japanese....

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

When weren't they? Have you ever owned either.? Ahhhh, there you go. You don't own either, and you probably can't afford any of them.

@@GaryDownes What a waste of my time to read this and I'm not greatful for your need to share with us the ignorance you have on the subject. Have a pleasant day.😁

@@GaryDownes And for reference the BMW X7 and Mercedes GLS are the models both those brands state themselves to be full-size SUVs. Not these two.

How do you like the gv80 compared to x5? I preordered the x5 but I am test driving a gv80! Love the feature

@@aprilbeltran7584 April, What it comes down to is personal taste, in other words it’s what turns you on. I can say after living and driving both for the past 3 months I’m trading in the GV80 for another X5 for my wife. I can say without a doubt the GV80 from a styling standpoint is hands down one of the most beautiful production cars on the road. My only criticism and this is personal for me but I just didn’t like the way it handled on the road. Truth be told you wouldn’t be disappointed with either car.

Genesis gives you the best warranty out of the other options and you always get a loaner And definitely less expensive when it comes down to service repairs if they can't cover it. If you call service they just come get your car. Maybe you had a bad experience but from personal experience as well, they go the extra mile for their customers and it even shows when you buy their cars brand new. It sounds like you spoke to guys who act like normal dudes but you were expecting to walk into a Hyundai dealership and get the same experience you'd get when buying the next tier up luxury which would be Porsche, land Rover, etc From even working with Lexus, BMW, And even some Florida Mercedes dealerships they act the same, all depends on location but it's about relatability and it's probably good if they do act like that rather than being dry. Personality means lasting impressions. And you definitely had one, but you were expecting to get an experience that you would only get if you're paying for a prestige dealership. Even for the Audi dealership I've gone to and done consulting with they can be mixed from managers to service, but not everyone is going to give you that oh I'm buying a Lamborghini or Aston Martin or even Porsche service. I'd rather my service advisor and service techs act like normal dudes because they actually are more honest and not caught up in the I have to sell these additional services mindset and making you pay more for repairs than it actually should cost to service something. They get kick back based on Repair orders. Go into any BMW. Mercedes, Audi, Porsche, etc and they all are vultures about that stuff.

@@marktakahashi5024 Well, up until I saw you reviewing the GV70, I enjoyed your reviews. Your GV70 review made me realize how biased you can be solely based on what you feel. On this platform, there are many car reviewers, some are just funny, some are technical and some are balanced and objective. I see Edmunds being part of the latter one, where the reviewers try to assess a vehicle not solely based on personal opinion but taking account every aspect and seeing it in a wider perspective. Nitpicking certainly isn’t that. And trying to be funny out of the sudden doesn’t help. Would I buy a Genesis? No, because for me as good as they have gotten it lacks the sportiness I want in each model’s segment. But I do appreciate having a new option which mixes things up in the segment.

The Samurai, doesn't like the Korean cars???? Take it easy descendant of King Arthur XI!!! Come on this is KZfaq, not Parlor!!!

Can you please tell me if the GV80 is off-road capable ? I am currently looking a SUV between BMW X5M, Audi Q7 and MB GLE AMG 53 witch will go off road casually (3 - 4 times a year), never thought about a Genesis before but this clip made me think. Your input will be much appreciated.

@Virgil Pascu I wouldn't call it offroad capable, it does have a differential locker sending equal power to all 4 wheels but the ground clearance just isn't there. It could definitely get through light stuff in a pinch, it's probably comparable or slightly better than the other options since it does have a differential and I don't think the others do. The ground clearance just isn't there for most of these options including the gv80.

@@emoll8930 well, Audi has Quattro, indeed I do not think it have a differential, but it is very good off-road and also on wet/slippery terrain. Never saw genesis compared to Audi or MB on this type of terrain, so this is why I asked you, maybe owning one you took it also off the streets. Also, you tested it on snow or sand ?

hehehhee You don't like the review so take the reviewer out? I though he was a great actor.

BMW and MB can compete with luxury and equipment - not for the price. And at that price point - does $10k really matter that much? Image is way more important. Genesis does not look or feel more luxuries - I tested it. It is comfortable and doesn't feel cheap but as they say - MB is a Mercedes, BMW is a BMW and Genesis is still a Hyundai :). If somebody offered me any of these for free, I take - I don' t deny I would even guy Genesis but If I pay $66k and everyday look at it and think - jeez I could've spent another $10k and have Benz LOL And all the above doesn't mean that this car does not make sense though most people use emotions not only logic when buying and owning a "luxury" car.

My gv80 is 73k

Pretty sure his “arrogance” was why he also did the reviews for the German cars; it’s reflective of the buyers of the Germans since anecdotally it’s been hard to tear people away from the status symbol brands to get them into a Genesis since “the neighbors/golf buddies” wouldn’t be as jealous when it drives up vs the Germans.

How about this: he was playacting!!!!

It doesn't matter if he received an Oscar for his performance, he ruined the comparison test.

Genesis fell on pieces after few years, just get an Audi or a Porsche cayenne

Agree 200% with you !

Only as much as Lexus, Acura and Infinity were.

Exactly, a fully loaded genesis is easily 10-15k cheaper than bmw and mercedes

@@adilsagadiyev5090 Not necessary "easily" but $10k is about the right number. Keep in mind that buying "Luxury" you not buying vehicle which makes sens and serves as a comfortable and reliable transportation - you paying for "luxury" and something not many others can afford. If reliability and "cost of ownership" is you criteria it is much better to buy KIA Telluride which will serve the purpose and be 50% cheaper than MB.

@@chessiem6647 here’s the thing with genesis, while yes it makes sense to pay more money for something luxurious, it’s doesn’t make sense buying the same thing for more money, mostly because of brand image. Genesis doesn’t have the same brand image as German brands do which allows them to sell essentially equally luxurious vehicles for a much lower cost, and better reliability might I add

@@adilsagadiyev5090 Nah when you fully load a GV then match that spec with the GLE the difference is really small.

@@alfredwilsbury8397 in Canada a fully loaded gv80 is 85k a fully loaded gle with a similar engine is 113k, did you compare the base model gle? Or the one with a similar engine to the gv80

Tons of them on youtube.

No wonder they have less views compare to other car reviewers

Genesis dealerships and service are now historically horrible and they are proving unreliable since this review.

Not worth it at all!! I wouldn’t even pay sticker on a glorified Hyundai…

*the white and blue checkers in the black ring

🤣🤣🤣

Because this was not a reliability contest. If you concerned about reliability and maybe gas mileage - these are not vehicles for you :) Look at Lexus and Acura. German cars were never about reliability or cost of ownership but about handling performance and image.

Why everyone ASSUMES that Genesis will be a reliable, good resale brand? Hyundai and Kia have daily recalls by the millions and multiple fires on multiple newer models. What will make Genesis reliable? If u compare it to Lexus when it was building it's reputation, late 90's early 2000's the Toyota brand was rocking it. Hence the famous Lexus reliability. And BTW Hyundai, kia or genesis were never high on the JD power reliability rankings, never!!!!

@@chessiem6647 wow, you have posted some stupid comments in this video, but this one takes the cake