GENIUS: Gen4 & Gen5 in ONE DRIVE! | Samsung 990 EVO SSD Review & Benchmarks

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@SuperConker
@SuperConker 4 ай бұрын
Samsung better make a 4 TB version of this drive (and maybe even an 8 TB version).
@Frozoken
@Frozoken 4 ай бұрын
Praying on the 8tb. We need an affordable 8tb nvme drive. Currently all the 8tb drives are over triple the price of flagship 4tb drives while also being moderately worse performance, ik part of the lower performance is from issues with scaling to 8tb but no, most of the 8tb nvme drives are straight up older by a couple years which is more reason for them to be priced lower than 3x the current flagship 4tb drives yet they aren't.
@laggmonstret
@laggmonstret 4 ай бұрын
Yeah! That's exactly what this drive feels made for, a secondary drive for large video files or anything else you need for work. 4TB minimum :D
@MitchellTheMitch
@MitchellTheMitch 4 ай бұрын
​@Frozoken Well maybe because it's hard to fit 8tb of FAST storage in such a small form factor. It'll get cheaper as the years go on, but you need to under that were fitting 8 Terabytes of storage with a speed of 7,000+ Megabytes Per Second, in something as small as a stick of gum. Yes we can do it, but it's an expensive process to do so.
@SuperConker
@SuperConker 4 ай бұрын
Sabrent has had 8 TB M.2 drives on the market for almost 4 years now. It's about time Samsung does the same.
@Frozoken
@Frozoken 4 ай бұрын
@@MitchellTheMitch Yeah but they've done it nearly 3 years ago and it's about the same price to this day while samsung is releasing single sided 4tb drives with the 990 pro so it can't be that hard to make a double sided 8tb one now in 2024
@djroskedjroske
@djroskedjroske 4 ай бұрын
You are the first one to talk about this. Thanks
@nadtz
@nadtz 4 ай бұрын
The PM1743 is Samsungs first (announced) gen5 SSD, the 990 EVO is the first gen5 consumer SSD. The idea behind this drive is interesting but right now it seems expensive for a drive with no devices that can really take advantage of it, maybe Samsung knows something about devices coming down the line with gen5 x2 m.2 slots or something?
@LyuboA
@LyuboA 4 ай бұрын
that's actually a great idea since No gamer or normal PC user even needs Gen4 speeds let alone Gen5 but this way you can have gen4 speeds with much less PCI-E lanes especially now how SSD price have fallen in comparison with few years ago
@yenjun0204
@yenjun0204 4 ай бұрын
Today on Amazon, the 2TB 990 Pro is $170 and the 2TB 990 EVO is $160. I don't see a reason to choose the EVO over the Pro.
@GSP-76
@GSP-76 4 ай бұрын
Isn't the EVO giving the same performance but with this hybrid connection?
@whothefoxcares
@whothefoxcares 4 ай бұрын
DIP switches once allowed users to modify how hardware operated. You own the land, and every lane. Drive your disks your own way!
@hughjassstudios9688
@hughjassstudios9688 4 ай бұрын
That was a time when most technical products came with schematics and diagrams for self-repair
@Adambhaifree
@Adambhaifree 4 ай бұрын
Bro you can make a video with amd threadripper pro 7000 + 4 rtx 4090 for 1 3d workstation under 100k $
@tech_evolved
@tech_evolved 4 ай бұрын
I've been waiting for them to make something like this. Makes having multiple m.2 easier since you don't run through chipset.
@lamikal2515
@lamikal2515 4 ай бұрын
Sure, but for that you still need to have a mobo that allow you to switch your x4 M.2 slot to a x2. If your mobo hava a bunch of ports but disable half of them when the other half is populated, it wont give you any benefits. So, forget low-end, and with that mass adoption.
@Crystawth
@Crystawth 4 ай бұрын
​@@lamikal2515if more manufacturers make drives that can switch between two lane and four lane operation, I wouldn't be surprised if manufacturers start including more m.2 interfaces that are two lane pcie5
@lamikal2515
@lamikal2515 4 ай бұрын
@@Crystawth Sure, but if it's just used as a crutch to reduce costs, as they would only include the standard 1 or 2 ports, and not more of them, it won't be of any good for the consumers.
@Slav4o911
@Slav4o911 4 ай бұрын
No it does not, it takes a full 4x slot and uses only 2 lines from it. That does not mean you can use more cards, the mainboard will automatically dedicate 4x lines to a 4x slot, even if you use only 2x lines on it. There are of course better mainboards where you can do manual bifurcation and use a x16 slot like 4x4x4x4x . If the mainboard does not have that manual bifurcation and you put an 4x card in a x16 slot it will use only 4x lines, if you put an adapter with 4 M.2 SSDs and your mainboard doesn't have manual bifurcation, only one of the SSDs will show up. So in practice it doesn't matter that his particular Samsung "gives up" two lines. You can just put a regular faster PCIe 4.0 SSD in that PCI 5.0 slot and it'll work with PCI 4.0 4x speed... no need to give up 2 lines for an unknown reason. These PCIe 5.0 M.2 slots always have dedicated 4 lines.
@Sullrosh
@Sullrosh 4 ай бұрын
This is for the mini PCs and laptops that have very limited pcie panes. Like the n100 with only 9 pcie lanes.
@francoisdubois80
@francoisdubois80 4 ай бұрын
The few places I can find it, the 990 EVO 2tb is actually pricing out slightly higher than the 990 Pro 2tb, which will have to change.
@JayRello1
@JayRello1 4 ай бұрын
I don’t think the price is going to lower anytime soon. Half the drive is gen 5 and that’s why they price it the way they do. It’s just lower cost than other gen 5 drives because of the gen 4 half.
@Frozoken
@Frozoken 4 ай бұрын
​@@JayRello1buddy it's literally worse in every way than a 990 pro, gen 5 is not enough reason for it to be priced the same or above it. Especially when at a queue depth of 1 sequentially which is all you'll actually use for a big write, 2 lanes of gen 4 on the 990 pro will be very close if not the same throughput at the 990 evo. If you literally keep 90% of the evos advertised sequential write with 1 queue than ur at 3.8GB/s which can be achieved with 2 lanes of gen 4. "Wow guys let me pay more for the drive which is a sidegrade in one metric and worse in literally every other. That makes total sense!!" 😂
@edwald4056
@edwald4056 4 ай бұрын
I watched the video and halfway thru, I checked the price online. I 'noped' the hell out. There is nothing justifying the cost.
@redslate
@redslate 4 ай бұрын
What really hurts is that the 990 PRO 2TB was _just_ $130, and a lot of people jumped on that deal. Now, Samsung tosses this out there "on sale" at $160, with worse performance and no DRAM. What are they thinking?
@rahulkamath6984
@rahulkamath6984 4 ай бұрын
Is there a percentage error in read speed (1:33 min) of the Samsung drive ?? Shouldn’t it be something around 41%?
@outlet6989
@outlet6989 4 ай бұрын
I predict what to expect from you by the end of this year. Your new videos review the GEN6 MBs.
@GenX-Gamore
@GenX-Gamore 4 ай бұрын
Life Span is what I'm more interested in, when I'm writing & reading Video files that tend to be in the upper 25-30Gb file size, like from a HD camcorder and when recording with OBS to get higher quality videos.
@multimediaman374
@multimediaman374 2 ай бұрын
can i plug on gen 3 x4 m.2 slot? i want to change my old 970 evo plus
@dafyddthomas7299
@dafyddthomas7299 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the info - makes sense to me more and more watching your great informative videos, Found in UK £147 for their 2 TB Version (Direct Samsung UK).
@willy7968
@willy7968 4 ай бұрын
I bought Crucial T500 1TB for my boot drive and the speed is insane while the temperature is below 35
@lucasrem
@lucasrem 4 ай бұрын
Why not the Crucial T700 ? Old PC ?
@willy7968
@willy7968 4 ай бұрын
@@lucasrem new AM5 PC with 7800x3d and 4070 I bought the 1tb t500 for $64 T700 price is $160 for 1tb I only game and some little video editing. T500 is a better value for money, T500 is fastest gen4 ssd atm with 7300mb/s and 6800 write speed.
@Frozoken
@Frozoken 4 ай бұрын
​@willy7968 Not quite the fastest gen 4 but very close nonetheless especially for only upper mid range price. It has some weird performance issues when you run out of slc cache and the 990 pro beats it in low queue depth random reads (what matters for real world performance unlike sequential speeds) but regardless it's actually 2nd in that metric which is very impressive imo for a non flagship drive and at least the size of said SLC cache is about double the 990 pro so ur less likely to run out in the first place. Either way while not literally the best gen 4 drive it's damn near it and $65 is a steal for what is better than *most* flagship gen 4 drives.
@willy7968
@willy7968 4 ай бұрын
@@Frozoken That's true.... it's not the fastest in extreme usage when it runs out of SLC cache. But in reality, the only extreme usage of SSD for me is video editing and I edit on external SSD cos I might edit on my Mac/PC
@Frozoken
@Frozoken 4 ай бұрын
@@willy7968 I mean I did say not the fastest regardless (that's the 990 pro) I'm just nitpicking there while when out of SLC cache it's actually a noticeable difference.
@Frozoken
@Frozoken 4 ай бұрын
Gotta shout out the WDsn850x but actually for its real write endurance. Despite being rated for 1200TBW my drive took 20TB written to lose 1% meaning it's actually a 2000TBW drive which is very high endurance. It also has a very large SLC cache which is what is needed for consistent performance
@kcg795
@kcg795 2 ай бұрын
I bought two of these for my new system I just built. The plan was to put one of those drives in the Gen 5 slot expecting it to run at Gen 5 speeds. Kinda hard to do when it only uses 2 lanes. So now both those drives are in the Gen 4 slots and I'm now running a Crucial T700 in the Gen 5 slot. I do have some games installed on one of the 990 Evos and it seems plenty fast. I'm more focused having Windows on the fastest drive. So far, so good.
@93SupaFly
@93SupaFly 4 ай бұрын
is it possible to review the new ACER FA200 Nvme ? specs for budget use seems kinda too good ?
@srobeck77
@srobeck77 4 ай бұрын
I wonder if it runs any cooler. Im amazed at how hot these NVME run. I had to put a heat sink on mine.
@Nick-zb4yo
@Nick-zb4yo 4 ай бұрын
This drive is more efficient than other nvme drives. That means it will definitely run cooler. Especially when you consider that it uses only 2 PCIE 5.0 lanes instead of the usually four. I mean the normal 5.0 x4 ones always have heat problems due to their high power consumption
@spider7studio
@spider7studio 4 ай бұрын
I hope you will reach 1mil sub mark soon bro, great stuff!
@DigitalSteel
@DigitalSteel 4 ай бұрын
I'd be curious to see how well this handles hosting VMs
@j_shelby_damnwird
@j_shelby_damnwird 2 ай бұрын
These are actually cheaper than Crucial high performance NVMEs, both on the 1tb and 2tb version at my local Amazon. Considering the 990 drive failure fiasco, would it be a good idea to go for these for my new build?
@Marvin-tf9wc
@Marvin-tf9wc 4 ай бұрын
It's priced the same as 990 pro in where I live, would be great when price drop to somewhere near crucial t500 2tb
@dammarsingh8361
@dammarsingh8361 4 ай бұрын
If this was 7300mbps and limited to pcie 4.0 x4 or pcie 5.0 x2, it would have been a great product. It still takes up 4 lanes of pcie 4.0 without giving out that much performance.. thumbs down. I'm better off with a faster pcie 4.0 x4 drive reaching max bandwidth.
@b3owu1f
@b3owu1f 4 ай бұрын
I guess you didn't test the Crucial T700? It's showing faster than the corsair in every test that I've found.
@BlueRice
@BlueRice 4 ай бұрын
My mb has 5 slot of m.2 and it comes with additional pcie card with heat sink of m.2.. why did I buy a mb with all these features that I never used...
@declanmcardle
@declanmcardle 4 ай бұрын
@4:00 - so, someone might invent some sort of Frankenstein 4 x M.2 SSD Gen 5 and Gen 5 PCIe graphics card combined? What have you there? Oh, the latest 4090 Hyper M.2 Graphics drive...
@ronpost587
@ronpost587 2 ай бұрын
Is this drive suitable for mounting the operating system or is it more appropriate for storage.
@theTechNotice
@theTechNotice 2 ай бұрын
OS is perfect for it!
@haywyrgaming
@haywyrgaming 4 ай бұрын
I clicked the link and it did’t bring up the samsung 990 evo
@bitcoinsig
@bitcoinsig 4 ай бұрын
Throw in an optane u.2 drive into those tests results
@flashlightfreek
@flashlightfreek 4 ай бұрын
Just got the 980 Pro Going from the 850 Evo I can't believe the speed difference!!!! 🤯🤯🤯
@user-tc4tz8ww1z
@user-tc4tz8ww1z 5 күн бұрын
I'm considering this for a video editing project drive.... I am just lazy to remove that brick of a graphics card to get to the m.2 slot..... I love how this is designed to save PCIE lanes... You can get this for 84 USD right now
@ronpost587
@ronpost587 2 ай бұрын
Right now (3/17/2024) Amazon is selling this drive for $89.98. Just ordered mine yesterday. Hope it's as good as you say.
@Lardzor
@Lardzor 4 ай бұрын
It gets even better than that. It's also backwards compatible with Gen 3. PCIe specifications mandate that PCIe devices can fallback to previous generations of PCIe. You might not have compatibility with PCIe 1.0, but that would be because no one ever bothered to create NVME drivers for PCIe 1.0, not because of PCIe incompatability, but a lack of software/firmware for NVME support on PCIe 1.0 hardware.
@guily6669
@guily6669 3 ай бұрын
Well that's just the norm, nothing to talk about just like you can put RTX4090 on a very old PCI-e until it works worse than a low end cheap GPU LOL...
@mysterychemical
@mysterychemical 25 күн бұрын
And the thing is 'It doesn't matter'. Why? Because most slots are x4 and even if it uses x2 slots on Gen5 they are not doing anything great by sparing extra x2 slots. They just wanted to market it as Gen 5 that's it.
@gallahant
@gallahant 4 ай бұрын
At least in Europe it actually retails a bit higher than the 990PRO which is not good at all. This should have been 30-40 euros cheaper at least. Prices are insane right now. I m also looking into buying the 14700 non K and it is priced higher than the K version!
@rycaca
@rycaca 2 ай бұрын
I bought a 1TB as my boot drive and immediately went ahead and bought a secondary 2TB drive to go with it
@BeastRusher509
@BeastRusher509 2 ай бұрын
It’s 145 US right now. Worth it for 2tb?
@natetravels5156
@natetravels5156 4 ай бұрын
They gave you more PCI lanes by reducing the requirements from 4 lanes to 2 and still maintain 5000.
@Emr_111
@Emr_111 4 ай бұрын
What is that coughing sound through the video ? :)) I hope everyone is alright :) Wish you the best , great content 🌷
@OvisTech
@OvisTech 4 ай бұрын
Heard that also even twice :)
@srobeck77
@srobeck77 4 ай бұрын
It was a covid causality. You prolly caught it now from watching the video.
@sGBUCKO
@sGBUCKO 4 ай бұрын
Hello, can you tell me if the be quiet dark rock pro 4 cpu cooler is good enough for 14700k please?
@tomh1556
@tomh1556 4 ай бұрын
Should be just enough to run 14700k most loads you throw at it. There is the be quiet dark rock pro 5 or pro elite that will easily handle the 14700k or 14900k also
@sGBUCKO
@sGBUCKO 4 ай бұрын
@@tomh1556 okay, I'll have a look at them two as they might be a better option for me. Thanks Tom!
@feckboy6616
@feckboy6616 4 ай бұрын
so in theory, if you have ryzen 7000 with proart motherboard and pcie 5.0 m.2 hyper card you can have 4 more m.2 ssd with gpu running in x8 speed
@morosis82
@morosis82 4 ай бұрын
The X670E only supports x4x4 bifurcation on that second slot, so you'd be limited to a x8 gfx card, 2x nvme in the hyper card in second slot, 1x nvme in the CPU connected PCIe m.2 and a second in the chipset connected m.2.
@dankmemes3153
@dankmemes3153 4 ай бұрын
Uhh, you do know thats how pcie natively works right? And unless that specific pcie slot has bifurcation, this is all a meme
@Jason-ol1ty
@Jason-ol1ty 4 ай бұрын
life is all a meme
@Slav4o911
@Slav4o911 4 ай бұрын
Yes, you'll just lose x2 lines without bifurcation. It's like putting an x8 GPU in a x16 slot, you just lose x8 lines, which do not magically show up anywhere.
@Adambhaifree
@Adambhaifree 4 ай бұрын
Bro you can make a video with amd threadripper pro 7000 + 4 rtx 4090 for 3d workstation under 100k $
@hbk92701
@hbk92701 4 ай бұрын
I can see the argument for this kind of drive but there are issues with the marketplace. Drives are sold on speed and this thing is slow on paper compared to others. Most building systems are not that worried about pcie lanes unless they are loading up on peripherals at which point they already want that straight up gen 5 drive for what they do. I think this is too much complexity to sell as much as i think limiting the lanes used is a good idea since 5GB/s is plenty fast for practical use
@guily6669
@guily6669 3 ай бұрын
I don't see is the complexity part but agree with the rest... I actually think it's just cheaper for them judging how this gen one of the things both AMD and Nvidia cheaped out was PCi-e lanes on their GPUs while mostly only AMD did it last gen but it became a huge problem too for ppl with old PCI-e 3.0 PC's that want to upgrade GPU some of their most recent GPUs perform worse than buying so much cheaper used last gen GPUs and getting the real PCI-e X16 version... But in terms of drives I also think Samsung 990 is enough and therefore cutting it's PCI-e lanes aren't really damaging it like the GPUs. Instead would have been better was to get lots of M.2 slots PCI 5.0 2x on any modern motherboard even the cheapest ones instead of getting sometimes only 1 M.2 pci 5.0 4x and being able to add much more SSDs in the future cause it's something we need to sadly be constantly adding more if we dont want to keep deleting data to put new stuff. Ps: I actually have a decently fast enough for me M.2 PCI 4.0 SSD and I'm even far from getting it's full speed on my old PCI 3.0 PC and don't care, but I went for a used Strix RX6700XT so I wouldn't dare loosing any FPS from the PCI lanes since I'm already loosing more than enough on the PC being old...
@Nagadosch
@Nagadosch 20 күн бұрын
I need a new ssd for audio production and video editing, should I buy the 990 pro oder 990 evo?
@clausion
@clausion 16 күн бұрын
990 pro. Evo is good for OS drive.
@Nagadosch
@Nagadosch 16 күн бұрын
@@clausion Thanks
@Adambhaifree
@Adambhaifree 4 ай бұрын
Bro make a video for apple vs amd Apple M3 max vs amd threadripper pro 7995wx
@toddpark2893
@toddpark2893 28 күн бұрын
Hello, thank you. Is it backwards compatible with 3.0?
@clausion
@clausion 16 күн бұрын
Yes.
@toddpark2893
@toddpark2893 16 күн бұрын
@@clausion thank you.
@IcyyX_
@IcyyX_ Ай бұрын
i wonder how this drive would run on raid 0
@YoloVib3s
@YoloVib3s 4 ай бұрын
So what’s the best NVME with DRAM?
@deepspacecow2644
@deepspacecow2644 4 ай бұрын
Doesn't matter, if you don't have dram, it just uses system ram as dram.
@georgehubbs1747
@georgehubbs1747 4 ай бұрын
8:13 Bless you! 😜
@ViXoZuDo
@ViXoZuDo 4 ай бұрын
I really hope someone release some PCIe x16 to 8x NVME adapter. That way we could add a lot of extra storage for "cheap" for our NAS units and save some money without expensive solutions like the asus flashtore
@lucasrem
@lucasrem 4 ай бұрын
@ViXoZuDo ASUS, just one NVMe on 8x slot. Cheap, use the old PC as a NAS, just 2x Nic !
@ViXoZuDo
@ViXoZuDo 4 ай бұрын
@@lucasrem the whole point of a NAS is having redundant multiple disks shared... not only 2
@mckirkus
@mckirkus 4 ай бұрын
You're getting into backplane territory at that point. Would be great though for a home NAS with no GPU requirements.
@morosis82
@morosis82 4 ай бұрын
You'll need a motherboard that allows bifurcation to the 2x lanes level, which many don't. There are already cards that support that many nvme devices but they need a plx chip and are expensive.
@ViXoZuDo
@ViXoZuDo 4 ай бұрын
@@morosis82 yeah... that's the point. bifurcation cards are cheap af and if this became a thing, then every manufacturer would add bifucation support. Right now, Asus is probably the only manufacturer that add support to every single one of their boards since they also sell the hyper M2 cards.
@chaosphoenixhex
@chaosphoenixhex 4 ай бұрын
What could go wrong?
@ProfessorAB
@ProfessorAB 4 ай бұрын
08:13 Who coughed 👀👀👀
@fracturedlife1393
@fracturedlife1393 4 ай бұрын
Launched just after ssd manufacturers said "we need prices to go to the moon". If we tell the manufacturers this great, how long until they start massively cutting back direct to CPU lanes? "If GPU only needs 8 lanes lets give them 8 for top slot, 2 for a gen5x2 nvme" 😂
@j_t_eklund
@j_t_eklund 4 ай бұрын
My initial reaction is 'neat'. The DRAM issue makes it a no for me. However I think this hybrid approach sort of modularity m2 designs are excellent. I'm thinking a Framework motherboard with m2 instead of USB. Max speed to everyone xD
@WillFuI
@WillFuI 4 ай бұрын
I wonder why they aren’t using dram seems like a stupid thing to cut on such an expensive drive
@simonverdinek7803
@simonverdinek7803 4 ай бұрын
Or you can just use SB M.2s and let chipset handle the bandwidth And you have best of both worlds... IDK why are you complicating.
@OsX86H3AvY
@OsX86H3AvY 4 ай бұрын
this is GREAT.....i so badly wish everything did this...imagine taking your pcie 3.0 x4 slot and putting your pcie 2.0 x8 card in it nd GETTING full speed, thatd be KICKASS if these would autonegotiate
@xanderx51
@xanderx51 4 ай бұрын
More options is always usually a good thing.
@GameplayArena1
@GameplayArena1 3 ай бұрын
i like this channel ...
@tomo8224
@tomo8224 3 ай бұрын
So... they took 990 PRO and nerfed it! GENIUSSSSS!!!
@jerededmons4313
@jerededmons4313 4 ай бұрын
Every new version will operate at previous speeds depending on mobo.. saying it's gen 5 and 4 is bs
@spankeyfish
@spankeyfish 4 ай бұрын
Indeed, it's actually an x2/x4 switch.
@RealTechGeek
@RealTechGeek 4 ай бұрын
Always gotta be someone too coughing lol 😆 🙃
@hkannfmv
@hkannfmv 3 ай бұрын
Nice idea but without agressive bifurcation support down to x2 (I.e. x2x2 in a x4 slot, multiple x4 connectors but only x2 gen5 support or x2x2x2x2+x8 in a x16) or gen5 x1 or x2 slots the extra lanes are wasted per connector. Intel z690 and z790 can only split the gen5 x16 slot into two x8 slots. AMD supports x4x4x4x4 but still not x2, so the xtra lanes are wasted anyway. Most x1 slots are gen3 except very few AMD that are gen4. So far ... Future will tell or Samsung already knows of future support... I know of a 10Gbps ethernet card that runns at x2 in Gen3 mode or x1 in gen4 ... Unfortunate I only have gen3 in the x1 slots so I waste a x4 slot for my older 10Gbps card. More gen5 x1 and x2 to the ppl.
@lucasrem
@lucasrem 4 ай бұрын
990 Evo is what we need in Notebooks, low power solution, save power and PCIe Gen 5 lanes. Need a fast boot drive for a gaming system, this is not it, just to slow.
@Ampopoltech
@Ampopoltech 4 ай бұрын
First!!!! seeing new type or hybrids nands looking impressive hoping to see these in mobile sector too
@sewercell
@sewercell 3 ай бұрын
bro forgot to add the T700
@GuyUnderTheBridge
@GuyUnderTheBridge 4 ай бұрын
Weird that a tech reviewer doesn’t understand that the motherboard has so many PCIe lanes and GPUs don’t add any to the total regardless of whether or not they have a NVME slot built in. Also strange that he didn’t comment on suggested retail price which puts the 2TB at $210 so not worth it.
@laggmonstret
@laggmonstret 4 ай бұрын
True lol, 220 euro atm where I live. I will wait and look for the updated 990 Pro with this tech instead (that hopefully will come?)
@789know
@789know 4 ай бұрын
no if i have a x8 gpu, u put it on x16 slot, kind of lost a lanes. That GPU idea allow u to use the full 16 lanes when ur gpu was place on x8 lane. Btw most tech reviewer r not ur typical gamers, they really don't have enough pcie lanes if they use consumer plaform. a x16 x8 ssd raid expansion card already take away 16/8 lanes, gpu take away another 16 lanes. if u need more hard drives, LSI card take another 8 lanes. If u do render where u want to use multiple gpu, u also used more lanes. And capture card also take away more lanes. If u r doing some more serious work on ur pc that also requires a lot of storage u will know that most consumer motherboard/platform lacks sufficient pcie lanes U r talking about a tech reviewer that gear a lot toward "creator", which usually complains about lack of pcie lanes from their workflow
@Slav4o911
@Slav4o911 4 ай бұрын
@@789know Yes but giving up 2 lines will not magically give you 2 lines. That's like if your GPU is in a x16 slot and uses only x8 lines, the other x8 lines do not become "magically available". Also why will you give up your presumably valuable Gen 5.0 slot to that abomination?! If you just need a lot of space you hook up a 18TB HDD, if you need many SSDs you can put them where there are slots. Giving up 2 of your most valuable lines will not make them magically show up somewhere else. If you don't need Gen 5.0 SSD you can put fast gen 4.0 SSD in the same slot. If you need a lot of flexibility you get a board with lots of slots and manual bifurcation support. That SSD will give up 2 lines which in practice will not show up anywhere, the mainboard will still dedicate 4 lines there to that slot, you'll just not use 2 of them. Without manual bifurcation you get nothing, that drive will not "bifurcate" for you.
@user-zu7tz3de6z
@user-zu7tz3de6z 4 ай бұрын
Genius. If price was a half I agree.
@lucasrem
@lucasrem 4 ай бұрын
U have issues finding cheap Evo drives ? Gen 5 board ?
@user-zu7tz3de6z
@user-zu7tz3de6z 4 ай бұрын
No i didn't search for new SSD. I have enough space and enough speed for 2-3 years ahead.
@redslate
@redslate 4 ай бұрын
They basically need to cut the price in half just to compete with their own product range. Even "on sale" at $160, these don't make sense.
@LifeIsButaBluff
@LifeIsButaBluff 4 ай бұрын
To make any sense it will need to be cheaper than existing
@TwstedTV
@TwstedTV 4 ай бұрын
I would rather buy a Crucial T700 4TB Gen5 NVMe drive. I have been waiting for Samsung to come out with a 4TB Gen5 drive. And they come out with this crap. I currently own (x2) 990-Pro in Raid1 2TB. And been waiting to upgrade to a Gen5 4TB for a while now. Samsung's current 990-Pro Gen4 (4TB) are a bit over priced. Been waiting for a price reduction. Samsung is about to lose a customer as I have been having my eye on the Crucial T700 4TB Gen5.
@JonnyParker-
@JonnyParker- 4 ай бұрын
yeah i assmed they would be dropping some crazy speed gen5 unit to rival the firecuda 2tb and the crucial you are on about but yeah strange decisions being made from South Korea.
@kingofstrike1234
@kingofstrike1234 4 ай бұрын
that box looked like intel box lol
@atta1798
@atta1798 4 ай бұрын
Actually the Samsung pro 990 pCIe4 is much faster .... all the way to the USB4 external
@Vlad_Shv
@Vlad_Shv 4 ай бұрын
A 990 EVO Plus* will have the DRAM.
@randymoser5225
@randymoser5225 3 ай бұрын
Wow talk about yak. Your charts are what? Gen 4 versus the drive. Too confusing
@noname-vl6vy
@noname-vl6vy 4 ай бұрын
is this slc, mlc, or tlc? if it's qlc, then it's a BS product
@Frozoken
@Frozoken 4 ай бұрын
TLC, modern mlc consumer drives literally don't exist and the only modern "consumer" slc drives are optane drives which are still not consumer price lol. Still can't believe MLC drives are extinct when TLC drives offer 3-5x worse endurance and reliability and about half the sustained speeds and moderately worse random performance. All for 50% more capacity. Capitalism really breeds innovation lmao.
@rallyscoot
@rallyscoot 4 ай бұрын
I dont think this is a great idea.. Because then you dont know what you are buying in the store. And have to first read previews / reviews online the see what the drive actually is. And then manufacturers will make M.2 Slots cheap to only provide Pci-e 5.0 x2 lanes instead of the usual x4 lanes. I dont see any benefit in that M.2 SSD.
@lucasrem
@lucasrem 4 ай бұрын
rallyscoot What board you have, gen 5 cheap boards have 3 NVMe slots, 2x is enough for NVMe
@lthartly21
@lthartly21 4 ай бұрын
WD did this 1st but glade to Samsung going down this road as well
@patrickc1508
@patrickc1508 4 ай бұрын
Talking about power efficiency of a ssd when people wish that they had a 600W GPU to gain them a few frames/second and some shadows in a game….lol If power efficiency translates into less heat/longer life maybe. I just couldn’t help but laugh at power efficiency with today’s computers pretty much being the equivalent of a space heater in whatever room you use it in.
@tek_soup
@tek_soup 4 ай бұрын
ok, i don't think you EVER show real world use, you just keep doing videos of NUMBERS. i want to see what is the point? when your editing, it gonna make, that much a difference vs a drive that is old one pcie 3.0 x4 vs this one, then try a drive that is pcie 4.0 x4 , all these numbers dont mean a whole lot. i want to see a visual comparison. i got a 64gb optane connected to a wd red pro, that gives me way higher number, or i also use Primocache ram and a wd black or red pro hd. you got 1 pcie 5.0 lane mostly and if you use it, it will knock your GPU Downt to pcie 4.0 X8 on most boards. good trade off? well?
@SauerkrautIsGood
@SauerkrautIsGood 4 ай бұрын
These things are way too expensive for a DRAM-less SSD. Just get a 990 pro like everyone else is saying.
@Palpouille
@Palpouille 4 ай бұрын
I Tech Notice, I hope that you are fine. I have just discovered your channel with the french channel "Tech Notice Français". I don't know if it's you but if it's not, you should report, this guys is stealing your content with a very bad Google AI Voice. Have a good day.
@shadowarez1337
@shadowarez1337 4 ай бұрын
Had I known using a Asus Strix z790 it's limits you to gen 4 I'd of not bought a gen 5 drive until gen 5 GPUs came out.
@TnTTyler
@TnTTyler 3 ай бұрын
No thanks, better options out there, doesn't even utilize gen 5 speeds
@SaltyMaud
@SaltyMaud 4 ай бұрын
A worse, dramless 990 Pro for 990 Pro price. That's a hard pass. Not a bad drive, but horribad price.
@mdd1963
@mdd1963 4 ай бұрын
Gen5 w/ only 2 lanes .....sucks
@theTechNotice
@theTechNotice 4 ай бұрын
Why's that?
@Reaverstyle1
@Reaverstyle1 4 ай бұрын
oke sorry but, i`ve now been an IT pro for more then 20yrs... you`re just selling samsungs marketing here... i see zero advantages here, exept for maybe the thermal problams on gen 5 drives... but then again at 5.0 x2 this drive only delivers gen 4 speeds so there is no advantage. what a load of crap.
@JonnyParker-
@JonnyParker- 4 ай бұрын
What a gag
@Gavisama
@Gavisama 4 ай бұрын
Meh, I wouldn't buy it.
@petarpetrov725
@petarpetrov725 4 ай бұрын
5gb/sec garbage
@natetravels5156
@natetravels5156 4 ай бұрын
Negative. 4 drives at Raid 0 will give you 20 and still only take up 8 lanes.
@petarpetrov725
@petarpetrov725 4 ай бұрын
@@natetravels5156 still gen 3.5 garbage and even expensive garbage
@ilovewatchingvideos1057
@ilovewatchingvideos1057 4 ай бұрын
well ppl like you are the reason these speeds do not make any sense. A manufacturer can put out big numbers in the marketing department, but in actual use, it means very little. Sequential write & read speed above 1GB is a luxury. Consistently mind you... any drive that does 7GB/s only does it for a few minutes at most. It's only beneficial if you have short-bust type of workload with huge intervals in between.
@frankwong9486
@frankwong9486 4 ай бұрын
​@@natetravels5156 Need to make a board do spilt to 2 lanes per slot Will be fun to have a x8 nvme card which installed 4 of these on that
@sbme1147
@sbme1147 4 ай бұрын
You’ll notice that if you use CrystalDiskMark on USB 3 drives that are very similar in the top number like what they publish for the NVMe drives. Then make numerous copies of Linux ISO with YUMI which takes the ISO’s and copies all those files over to the USB. It’s those little files that make the big difference. It’s really those other numbers in the bottom 4 of the 8 that truly make the difference. My other two flash drives had significant poorer lower numbers of those last four and they took so much longer for the _Exact_ same files it was frustrating. So then after I ran CrysralDiskMark and took screen shoots and labeled the flash drives !!
@zuluuu
@zuluuu 2 ай бұрын
nice shill
@theTechNotice
@theTechNotice 2 ай бұрын
unpack it for me please 🤔
@MirelRC
@MirelRC 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, no thanks. It's useless for me.
@evilqtip7098
@evilqtip7098 4 ай бұрын
I am sorry, but Samsung drives have given me nothing but trouble even reviewers. Putting them together any raid had 2 problem drives and only 2 worked.😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢 I use Kingston only and never have problems with them. They run lightning speed and destroy Samsung.
@xruud24
@xruud24 4 ай бұрын
Bro nobody cares about PCI lanes and nobody cares about gen 3/4/5 ssds for gaming gen 3 ssd is just as good as gen 4/5 Gen 3 3000/3500 mb/s is more than enough
@Frozoken
@Frozoken 4 ай бұрын
exactly past 1-1.5GB/s sequential speeds all that matters for the real world performance of the drive barring file transfers is the random read/write speeds. Even better, if you're on windows 11 everything will run at like 200-300MB/s max on the file explorer so literally only on like steam library file transfers will u be able to utilise that sequential performance at all even for the very niche activity of a big file transfer.
@789know
@789know 4 ай бұрын
Nobody....so a typical gamer who think he is in a position to talk about what ppl care about their pc. Try edit 8k raw etc u will know lanes and faster speed make a different. Also if u transfer file a lot.
@xruud24
@xruud24 4 ай бұрын
@@789know yeah whatever big boy. It makes such a big difference, before pci 5 existed the world was in big trouble!!
@redslate
@redslate 4 ай бұрын
​@@789knowHe's right. I doubt you're counting out individual PCIe lanes when building your editing rig. Most of his comment was clearly directed at gaming anyway.
@HotNHorny
@HotNHorny 4 ай бұрын
GPUs should have RAM slots so you can increase the VRAM. That’s what I would like to see. You can use standard RAM to expand your GPU RAM.
@silfrido1768
@silfrido1768 3 ай бұрын
I smell faster pcie lanes 🥹
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