Genshin Impact ARCHON vs Honkai Star Rail AEON, Who Would Win?

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CatWithBlueHat

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4 ай бұрын

Here's a fun little study on the Archons of Genshin Impact and the Aeons of Honkai Star Rail. We take a look at how powerful are the most powerful being of Teyvat and can they stand against the most powerful beings of Star Rail? I hope you enjoy the video :D
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@strawberrymilkshake4576
@strawberrymilkshake4576 3 ай бұрын
Archon governs the nation while the Aeon governs the universe, one single fart from one Aeon basically yeet the entire Teyvat.
@kyle_8
@kyle_8 3 ай бұрын
LMAOO i love the example you gave
@YumeIsGone
@YumeIsGone 3 ай бұрын
citizens of teyvat watching the entire world get crushed by aha's comically huge squeaky hammer toy
@idontspeakjapanese6289
@idontspeakjapanese6289 3 ай бұрын
Can you imagine how doomed Teyvat would be if they encountered the Swarm 💀💀
@nathanael9159
@nathanael9159 3 ай бұрын
Indeed.
@Commraderanrin
@Commraderanrin 3 ай бұрын
Nanook sneezes and Teyvat is reduced to not even atoms
@lordknight7696
@lordknight7696 3 ай бұрын
Aha: Nah I'd troll Akivili : Nah I'd cross the galaxy Ena: Nah I'd maintain order Fuli: Nah I'd remember Hooh: Nah I'd balance IX: Nah I'd not care Idrila: Nah I'd be more beautiful Lan: Nah I'd hunt Long: Nah I'd persist Mythus: Nah I'd riddle Nanook: Nah I'd destroy Nous: Nah I'd learn Oroboros: Nah I'd eat Qlipoth: Nah I'd preserve Tayzzyronth: Nah I'd reproduce Terminus: Nah I'd end it Xipe: Nah I'd fuse Yaoshi: Nah I'd prosper
@jo0ke4u61
@jo0ke4u61 3 ай бұрын
Hotel: Nah i'd Trivago
@Hasan-Firas
@Hasan-Firas 3 ай бұрын
That Fuli one got me so bad
@Frostborne2778
@Frostborne2778 3 ай бұрын
I loved it when Terminus said “It’s Finality time!” And Finalitied all over the universe
@SkyNigh-_-
@SkyNigh-_- 3 ай бұрын
And then there one guy said : nah I’d win
@phase1254
@phase1254 3 ай бұрын
lobotomy kaisen is taking over the internet lol
@HordianBilly
@HordianBilly 3 ай бұрын
bro compared local gods to celestial beings 💀
@CatWithBlueHat
@CatWithBlueHat 3 ай бұрын
ehe~
@chilleroftheknight
@chilleroftheknight 3 ай бұрын
Alot of people were debating which is stronger and so many said that the archons are.
@ridoing9969
@ridoing9969 3 ай бұрын
@@chilleroftheknight lmao fr?
@Games-zs8un
@Games-zs8un 3 ай бұрын
@@chilleroftheknight then they have no basic knowledge of the lore of the games that start with honkai
@blaze8308
@blaze8308 3 ай бұрын
Those people are fools ​@@chilleroftheknight
@thealiengeneral12914
@thealiengeneral12914 3 ай бұрын
Who would win? An infant or a nuclear bomb
@chilleroftheknight
@chilleroftheknight 3 ай бұрын
The infant 😂
@Hasan-Firas
@Hasan-Firas 3 ай бұрын
My bet is on the cockroach that's in the infant's house
@automato436
@automato436 3 ай бұрын
That's not a nuclear bomb its a Planetary bomb
@binhturtle179
@binhturtle179 3 ай бұрын
​@@automato436 saying it's a gamma ray burst vs. an E. Coli bacteria still doesn't come close to describe the power gap between Aeons and Archons. Even many Aeons' Emanators have a far greater capability than Zhongli or Ei
@grados3060
@grados3060 3 ай бұрын
coughing baby vs hydrogen bomb
@binhturtle179
@binhturtle179 3 ай бұрын
Nous can print "Hello World!" and it would explode Teyvat's entire Irminsul data storage
@Hasan-Firas
@Hasan-Firas 3 ай бұрын
Most likely just type a single letter from a different language and Irminsul just gets deleted
@binhturtle179
@binhturtle179 3 ай бұрын
​@@Hasan-Firas especially considering how allergic Celestia is to "outside knowledge"
@imdani4997
@imdani4997 3 ай бұрын
HELP NOT THE "Hello World!" 💀💀
@yusufsatria8852
@yusufsatria8852 3 ай бұрын
Forbidden knowledge 💀
@CatWithBlueHat
@CatWithBlueHat 3 ай бұрын
Part of the reason why this video exists is because I've seen many claim the Traveler can be Akivili, the Aeon of Trailblaze. The amount of lore and power scaling one has to ignore to even come to such a conclusion is simply baffling. As such, this video now exists to explain difference between an Aeon and an Archon. And also why it is simply impossible for the Traveler (assuming they are an Aeon, or even an Emanator) to be sealed and defeated by a god of Teyvat.
@peterjutsu
@peterjutsu 3 ай бұрын
lmaoaoaoaooa
@j_Snow
@j_Snow 3 ай бұрын
Hoyoverse playerbase being Hoyoverse playerbase
@Nekogitsune
@Nekogitsune 3 ай бұрын
oh hell yea i love this crack theory bcs of how funny it is 😭
@multipatt8710
@multipatt8710 3 ай бұрын
But it's just a theory, a game theory!!
@multipatt8710
@multipatt8710 3 ай бұрын
@WakeUpMizuki what, off course not
@S.J.A.J
@S.J.A.J 3 ай бұрын
Without watching the whole video, i already knew the answer💀
@TheTenzen12
@TheTenzen12 3 ай бұрын
I wasn't sure about Genshin power level, but when I seen Archons can blown mountains and cleave canyons my thouthgt was: "Oh, How cute..."
@rickynguyen5108
@rickynguyen5108 3 ай бұрын
​@@TheTenzen12 "That's so CUTE." These pitiful little Archons think that they're hot shit after destroying a mountain or island or two, which is NOT IMPRESSIVE whatsoever when you look at HI3 and HSR. Yeah, Genshin has the LOWEST power scaling EVER in Mihoyo.
@rickynguyen5108
@rickynguyen5108 2 ай бұрын
@TheTenzen12 Not to mention that Archons are so last season, what, with them not even being the most powerful beings in Teyvat. That goes to the Seven Dragon Kings/Sovereigns, the Primordial One and its Four Shades (and Celestia), the Sustainer (also Celestia), and very possibly Skirk and her master. The mere FACT that the Archons are outright scared shitless of Celestia proves that the former are not the most powerful in Teyvat, and that they're nothing more than unwilling puppets to a higher power. Hell, Celestia literally FORCED every "god" (that term means nothing to me since it just means that that being is more "special" than the rest in Teyvat. There is literally nothing "godly" about them. If someone is stronger than that "god", then does that make them a god too?) in Teyvat to fight one another to the death just to see who comes out on top in each region and "reward" the winners the powers of an Archon while making them their puppets to do as they please, whether they like it or not. Basically, Archons are the WORMS inside of the dirt from DBZ Abridged Popo's pecking order explanation.
@hlongvn4258
@hlongvn4258 3 ай бұрын
Cat is secretly Aha in disguise, triggering a war just for his amusements
@CatWithBlueHat
@CatWithBlueHat 3 ай бұрын
Like how Aha blew up a planet to get a reaction from Akivili?
@chanvax2111
@chanvax2111 3 ай бұрын
​@@CatWithBlueHatYeah he is the ultimate troll but he and akivili were best friends like really really close friends.
@hlongvn4258
@hlongvn4258 3 ай бұрын
@@CatWithBlueHat "I sawed my friend's car in half [funny][gone wrong]"
@dattrong8698
@dattrong8698 3 ай бұрын
@@chanvax2111 Aha casually blow the train into 2 peices while Akivili making Pom-Pom stress af these 2 Aeon really are besties to each other
@kucing8107
@kucing8107 3 ай бұрын
Cheese for everyone
@Absolute_Crimson
@Absolute_Crimson 3 ай бұрын
"Stand Proud Archons You Are Strong" - Said by the Aeons
@prizrakovzhuang5424
@prizrakovzhuang5424 3 ай бұрын
Said by Aha the Laughter
@Absolute_Crimson
@Absolute_Crimson 3 ай бұрын
@@prizrakovzhuang5424 Is he Aha because he is the Laughter or is he Laughter because he is Aha?
@Frostborne2778
@Frostborne2778 3 ай бұрын
@@Absolute_Crimson Is he elated because he’s Aha? Or is he Aha because he’s elated?
@Absolute_Crimson
@Absolute_Crimson 3 ай бұрын
@@Frostborne2778 Or is he the one who laughed it all behind and his overwhelming intensity. Because You always bet on 50/50
@lux9744
@lux9744 3 ай бұрын
Truly living his motto *never give up and let them down* moment
@user_gywn
@user_gywn 3 ай бұрын
1 aeon is enough to destroy teyvat and that’s Nanook’s fart
@DementiaWrittenRat
@DementiaWrittenRat 14 күн бұрын
HAHHAHAHA-
@chelo136
@chelo136 3 ай бұрын
In HSR humans have bombs that can blow 24 planets in one go (chadwick story) , and those bombs are not a threta to Aeons, they just plan to use them against their armys not the Aeon itself, like... yeha archons are flys to Aeons
@neoz1493
@neoz1493 3 ай бұрын
Fr, Technological advances in HSR alone can destroy TEYVAT☠️☠️☠️
@eeveeofalltrades4780
@eeveeofalltrades4780 3 ай бұрын
I mean, Neuvillette at full power is stronger than the Archons, but weaker than the whale, and the whale is weaker than Skirk, who's weaker than her master.
@neoz1493
@neoz1493 3 ай бұрын
@@eeveeofalltrades4780 And after all that, they still don't have the ability to destroy a planet (except maybe the primordial one) Meanwhile, humanity in HSR has even been able to create weapons that destroy many solar systems in one shot
@justsomeguyworkingatmcdona6817
@justsomeguyworkingatmcdona6817 3 ай бұрын
​@@neoz1493 Yeah like Wtf is Neuvillete going to do against Phantylia or even Jingliu 😂
@dhruvacharya-wx4bj
@dhruvacharya-wx4bj 3 ай бұрын
my man Welt and Himeko alone are enough to bring teyvat to its knees
@barcodeverifier9256
@barcodeverifier9256 3 ай бұрын
Archons - Represents a concept Aeons - Embodiments of a concept
@KFCG427
@KFCG427 3 ай бұрын
Not comparing or anything but like after what Focalors done, i literally called her the Embodiment of Justice itself. She actually showed the literal meaning of Justice , truly a chad imo
@Fenneciel
@Fenneciel 3 ай бұрын
@@KFCG427 Well, actually only humans can represent the concept of justice because is a concept that humans created. btw you are right
@jakeblitzcoffie4859
@jakeblitzcoffie4859 3 ай бұрын
Herrschers - Manipulate Concepts Aeons - Embodies Concept Archons - represents an Element
@djampoucheukap1742
@djampoucheukap1742 3 ай бұрын
​@@KFCG427for me it really depends on which side you take it, cause for me the justice is really embodied by neuvillette, not foçalors. Foçalors tricked everyone for the sake of her plan, but the one who really gave back fontainians their freedom, and right to exist is neuvillette with full powers. Foçalors simply tricked him to do so
@mohamedmohamedyoussouf4853
@mohamedmohamedyoussouf4853 3 ай бұрын
I more think the archon are follower of the concept liké emanator like the électro archon hasn't reach eternity or mondstat isn't totally free Nahida who don't have acces to all the knowledge so they're more of follower of a past
@idontspeakjapanese6289
@idontspeakjapanese6289 3 ай бұрын
*Aeons in a nutshell:* Qlipoth's gargantuan size is enough to smash multiple planets with it's hammer, Fuli's arrival is enough to crystalize nearby planets in it's vicinity, Lan the weakest Aeon so far was able to wipe out a massive Borisin fleet that is attacking the Xianzhou with a single shot from it's bow, Aha casually blows up a planet to get a reaction from Akivili, but of course the most terrifying Aeon for me is Tazzyronth, it's offsprings can multiply so fast that it can overtake planets. One famous example of Tazzyronth's Swarm being scary, is the fall of the Glamoth Empire, it was almost overran by the Swarm, they were able to stop the countless waves of insects with the creation of the Molten knight. Though dangerous, Tazzyronth's story ess a tragic one, a lone insect who wanted company so much it became an Aeon.
@oldsoulbiz3526
@oldsoulbiz3526 3 ай бұрын
Are we just gonna ignore IX and Oroboros?
@idontspeakjapanese6289
@idontspeakjapanese6289 3 ай бұрын
@@oldsoulbiz3526Ahh yes Oroboros casually having a buffet with millions of the swarm insects and IX basically ignoring every Aeon possible, then we got Idrilla, Long and Akivili dying or disappearing from unknown reasons, then we got Terminus, Mythus and HooH who are basically pulling the strings then there's Yaoshi and Xipe who are being hot but creepy and lastly we got Nanook who is a daddy material without limbs but still got Rizz to ensnare female players
@laurentiuslancaster1657
@laurentiuslancaster1657 3 ай бұрын
Considering Doomsday Beasts are planet destroyers, it's safe to say the emanators of Nanook (Lord Ravagers) are at least solar system or even galactic threats
@binhturtle179
@binhturtle179 3 ай бұрын
​​@@laurentiuslancaster1657 Lord Ravager Zephyro appeared in the Tia'nua galaxy and that galaxy was later reported to be completely destroyed. He also have a recorded transgression where he ignited a sun to scorch all of the system's planets. Another Lord Ravager was reported to have devoured a third of a large star cluster, too. And such is the feats of the "destroyers", the life bringers, too, have no less inferior feats. Like Emanator of Abundance Shuhu can revitalise a whole living planet. Or the Wingweavers' Dyson Tree that can gather energy from multiple stars (if you're aware of the Dyson's Sphere concept, you'll know how impressive such a construct is)
@dontshitontravelermains5498
@dontshitontravelermains5498 3 ай бұрын
The fact that Borderstar Trade War and Anti-Organic War are said to be as scariest as Swarm Disaster era make me fear what type of war era Herta & friends going to bring up in the next SIMU update
@ImThePr3s
@ImThePr3s 3 ай бұрын
A Genshin Archon is as valuable as a summer ant to an HSR Aeon
@bem3760
@bem3760 3 ай бұрын
Like LowTierAeon says
@zoaholic7732
@zoaholic7732 3 ай бұрын
Archons are a bit similar to Emanator of Aeons. They’re individual who’ve been granted permission to have a tiny fraction of their Aeon’s power. Emanator alone could solo the Genshin verse.
@rakshanreddy9700
@rakshanreddy9700 3 ай бұрын
Bro speaks facts ,and instantly shuts down delulu people who think archons are stronger
@SkyNigh-_-
@SkyNigh-_- 3 ай бұрын
My guy one aeon is enough to cook all the archon
@mohamedmohamedyoussouf4853
@mohamedmohamedyoussouf4853 3 ай бұрын
One emanator
@arumi9410
@arumi9410 3 ай бұрын
thats pretty generous One emanator is enough to solo all the archons. One Aeon, doesn't have to do anything bothersome to destroy the entire Teyvat universe and its world scaling (Nanook fart for example)
@abdollahelghadoui5701
@abdollahelghadoui5701 3 ай бұрын
@@arumi9410 The primordial one or phanes begs to differ since he created a barrier that supposedly not even aeons can cross hence the lack of their influence on teyvat
@cylnder
@cylnder 3 ай бұрын
​@@abdollahelghadoui5701keyword in the point the dude was making is that one emanator is enough to solo ARCHONS, not the primordial one or its shades also as an add-on, as long as the concept exists in teyvat, aeons will always have an influence, because they literally are that concept
@abdollahelghadoui5701
@abdollahelghadoui5701 3 ай бұрын
@@cylnder he said the whole of teyvat also no if you read the new whale boss description in the archive it comments on how weird it is that teyvat is isolated from the rest of the universe which is due to phanes using his egg shell to seperate teyvat from the microcosm of the universe itself
@adriandaliva1341
@adriandaliva1341 3 ай бұрын
the archons themselves can't even counter their own world tree's (irminsul) memory deletion/manipulation tactics, how are they comparable to HSR's aeons 💀😂
@tencive5749
@tencive5749 3 ай бұрын
This is not a contest, it is a beatdown
@eboshisdescendant8697
@eboshisdescendant8697 3 ай бұрын
One is a high-fantasy world and another is a sci-fi galactic society. Although the scale is different(and this is the main point of this video), the positions in their own lore would likely the same, because a planet in a sci-fi galaxy would be treated as same as a nation in a fantasy would be, especially in the lore category. I think that is what makes people confuse about them, because their “positions in its own lore” looks the same, but the two world-buildings are on the completely different scale.
@ZeromusNightmare122
@ZeromusNightmare122 3 ай бұрын
That's kinda the problem though: Archons, last I recall, are not even the strongest in their own world. The unknown god and Celestia prove that already. So to compare them like that at all is pretty weird.
@soleilpeik
@soleilpeik 3 ай бұрын
​@@ZeromusNightmare122exactly. i was saying bro should have just skipped straight to powerscaling the primordial one and celestia gods instead because the archons arent the one that should be used as the basis for comparison here
@Koutouhara
@Koutouhara 3 ай бұрын
I just want to point out that they are technically in the same universe, along with Honkai Impact 3rd. It's already been connected that the 3 are on the same world tree holding the universe together in the Sea of Quanta. So while scale definitely is a factor in comparing the two (an Aeon's magnitude is just too much for what simple gods can achieve even if they have the Archon title..) it doesn't really matter as much that one is "high-fantasy or sci-fi" in this case. The lore of both games is all apart of the same cannon of the Hoyoverse. Teyvat is one bubble world/leaf. We would just have to hope that no Aeon even gets a whiff of Teyvat lest it be destroyed lol
@notme8652
@notme8652 3 ай бұрын
Ouroboros: *burps* Teyvat: 💥
@Aegis1198
@Aegis1198 3 ай бұрын
Genshin : you cant defeat me i can control all the elements of this world HSR : please choose a level of spicyness before i continue
@fincrocs
@fincrocs 3 ай бұрын
The mere existance of IX would wipe the entirety of the world in Genshin
@Noaaaa3
@Noaaaa3 3 ай бұрын
Calderon Chadwick, an NPC created Imaginary Impulse that destroyed 24 Planets and Countless lives in one shot. That thing can obliterated Teyvat
@CalX705
@CalX705 3 ай бұрын
Penacony's Oppenheimer is probably stronger than the entire teyvat. Bro just nukes 4 planets lol.
@davestew5135
@davestew5135 3 ай бұрын
I thought more than 20 were in the explosion radius...maybe I'm remembering wrong
@gustavju4686
@gustavju4686 3 ай бұрын
​@@davestew5135Yeah, it was 20 planets
@pouiverfaim3073
@pouiverfaim3073 3 ай бұрын
It was 24 planets
@idontspeakjapanese6289
@idontspeakjapanese6289 3 ай бұрын
And the IPC wants to mass produce said nukes 💀💀💀💀
@eeveeofalltrades4780
@eeveeofalltrades4780 3 ай бұрын
24
@Kurogane3
@Kurogane3 3 ай бұрын
The best way to understand the scale of power of an Aeon is to think of your Equilibrium level. In Genshin you have World Level which can be increased when you hit Adventure Rank thresholds. In Star Rail you have something similar: Trailblaze Levels and Equilibrium level. Both of these function the same way but there is a key difference: In Genshin, World Level is not really acknowledged canonically. It is treated purely as a game mechanics. While in Star Rail, they (followers of the Aeon of Equilibrium) canonically mention that if you pass their test, their Aeon will raise the world level. Just think about this for a second: An Aeon (HooH in this case) has the ability to RE-WRITE REALITY and increase the levels of enemies and the rewards you get in order to set things equal (the canonical explanation is that you get too strong so HooH makes the enemies stronger). I hope I don't have to explain why reality manipulation on a universal scale is so much broken than whatever Archons can do. I never even thought about comparing Archons to Aeons... like its not the same tier at all. If you really want to compare Genshin with Star Rail then I guess you could think like this: Aeons = Celestia/Heavenly Principle : A higher being that is influencing the world at its core but does not appear directly and physically (until the end game) Emanators = Archons : Beings chosen by Aeons to be their agents. They receive the blessing and a fraction of the power of an Aeon to be significantly stronger than others. In my opinion and Archon is closer to an Emanator. However it is still not the same, as we know that Emanators are at least "planet destroyer" level in terms of power. And so far we haven't seen anyone being capable of destroying the planet that Teyvat is located on. Therefore you can think of Archons as "Budget Emanators" and the world of Star Rail as a world with 18 Celestias, each with their own set of "Archons".
@arumi9410
@arumi9410 3 ай бұрын
what a good explanation for those genshin smooth brained white knight who doesn't play HSR.
@konbizzz2479
@konbizzz2479 3 ай бұрын
IX: wakes up* Teyvat: *Reduce to atoms*
@lyapaggy7283
@lyapaggy7283 3 ай бұрын
Talking about Aha and Akivili the ones closest to ressemble a human, if I remember correctly, there a text in game saying that Nous also took an human form to approach someone that was doing a speech on a lot of people. This someone noticed Nous and feel suddently transcended. I don't remember what's next but he was the only one that noticed Nous !
@Mixtrelle
@Mixtrelle 3 ай бұрын
I think that event is referring to Flemming's final speech before stepping down from IPC board member
@valeriodesantis4519
@valeriodesantis4519 3 ай бұрын
​@@MixtrelleFlemming talked with Fuli, not with Nous
@mohamedmohamedyoussouf4853
@mohamedmohamedyoussouf4853 3 ай бұрын
@@Mixtrelle Flemming talked to Fuli
@Giovansbilly
@Giovansbilly 3 ай бұрын
Fu Xuan also got her omniscia after meeting a mysterious man, who may be a disguised Nous, and requesting the omniscia
@imdani4997
@imdani4997 3 ай бұрын
No shade but IX alone is already an overkill 💀 Played both games and I do paid attention to the power lvl
@idontspeakjapanese6289
@idontspeakjapanese6289 Ай бұрын
Which is hilarous considering IX is very passive.
@user-je8gn2fz7b
@user-je8gn2fz7b 3 ай бұрын
This is literally coughing baby(archons) vs hydrogen bomb(aeons)
@cyno4055
@cyno4055 3 ай бұрын
Oh boy things are gonna get hot in here 😂😂
@satpoet753
@satpoet753 3 ай бұрын
Raiden simps incoming 😂
@emiliabaran6830
@emiliabaran6830 3 ай бұрын
It's not even a fight, it's a massacre.
@Musashi42069
@Musashi42069 3 ай бұрын
Aeons are unviserse level, Eminators are galaxy level, While Archons can summon a 6 foot pillar that provokes hilichurls 💀
@xeno_00
@xeno_00 3 ай бұрын
Lmao..your comment wins😂👍
@eeveeofalltrades4780
@eeveeofalltrades4780 3 ай бұрын
The pillar doesn't provoke.
@m0bb-_-
@m0bb-_- 3 ай бұрын
What makes you think that eminators are galaxy level we’ve seen 1 of them use their power before? And an eminators power is completely dependent on how much power the Aeon they follow wants to give them. Also only the strongest aeons like finality and destruction should be around Universal we don’t know for sure about the rest of them. I’ve seen several people say this in the last few weeks and I always wonder how they’ve come to this conclusion. I really just want to know why you all of the things you said.
@lampsy7395
@lampsy7395 3 ай бұрын
​​@@m0bb-_-One of the express radio conversation talked about a galaxy that has "ceased to be" not long after Lord Ravager Zephyro (emanator of destruction) was seen there. Skarabaz or whatever the big blue swarm is (emanator of propagation), not the clone Ruan Mei made, used to "harvest planets" to give birth to more offspring, based on the item drop description. You get the idea
@Giovansbilly
@Giovansbilly 3 ай бұрын
​​@@lampsy7395Shuhu and Acheron also seem to be pretty strong too, and maybe Herta too if Hoyo ever show her real body doing typical Emanator feats
@Somthing123-js3hb
@Somthing123-js3hb 3 ай бұрын
I think the scaling in Hoyoverse is something like: Outer Gods (Ggz) > Aeons > True Herrschers >= Emanators > Herrschers > Archons But some may actually be stronger than those above them and Ggz is just at a higher scale than any other game.
@jakeblitzcoffie4859
@jakeblitzcoffie4859 3 ай бұрын
Close. It's actually Outer Gods > True Herrschers > Aeons > Emanators = Herrschers > Archons
@vuthu2631
@vuthu2631 19 күн бұрын
Nous is a super intergalactic computer AI thing that aims to know every questions and answer. Teyvat still haven’t figured out toilets yet. Their archons probably shits behind a bush.
@jakeail1995
@jakeail1995 3 ай бұрын
thank you, that why you my top lore cc coz you actually got it all right even from a honkai(ggz, hi3 and hsr) lore pov. I have a suggestion for video topic that is more on theory side but could you do a video analyze the true meaning of each path coz from what i read and understand, path name can be misleading and only surface of what the path truly is
@jadenimation8189
@jadenimation8189 3 ай бұрын
Can you elaborate more about the path name being misleading? I'm interested.
@jakeail1995
@jakeail1995 3 ай бұрын
​@@jadenimation8189 do take in mind this is only my interpretation, so let use Destruction as the example of what i said: - Many people only think of Destruction and Nanook on a very surface level of destroying for the sake of destroying thing but in reality that is not true. - In databank intro about Nanook reveal that his goal is to destroy the old, purge the filth, the corruption of the old world so a new better one could rise from the remnant of the old world. => Nanook Destruction also contain the idea of rebirth and it destruction carry with it a goal as rebirth and destruction r 2 side of the same coin - my thought process back up by 2 thing: + Nanook ascend to Aeonhood thanks to the Swarm Disaster and GnG, when many thing got destroy but at same time many civilization was born or rebuild from it + Annihilation gang also worship Nanook but Nanook don't even look at them and disapprove what they doing a lot coz annihilation gang only destroying thing with no goal or destroying in none meaningful way => While i did said the path name can be misleading but it more like the name only give surface level of what the path truly mean.
@jakeail1995
@jakeail1995 3 ай бұрын
@@jadenimation8189 here r some of my own theory on what the other path really mean: - Destruction is for rebirth - Preservation is about survival - Abundance true nature is undead - Remembrance is all about recording - Elation i think might be about enlightenment - Harmony might be Assimilation - Hunt might be about the cycle of life - Erudition true idea is not about knowledge but it about "asking question", seeking the knowledge - Order true nature is control There r some path that i can't say much due not enough lore or info on the path or their aeon
@oops2179
@oops2179 3 ай бұрын
comparing Aeon vs Archon is like comparing Archon with Vision holder..
@youandme8076
@youandme8076 3 ай бұрын
No, it's like comparing an archon to an ant lol.
@bem3760
@bem3760 3 ай бұрын
No it's like comparing baby to average Pitbull
@muliapratama6567
@muliapratama6567 3 ай бұрын
I mean the archon of genshin isnt even the highest hierarchy in the world no?
@chilleroftheknight
@chilleroftheknight 3 ай бұрын
Nope. As stated in the video. Even the 7 sovereign dragons are higher
@joehanz9217
@joehanz9217 3 ай бұрын
​@@chilleroftheknight it would be funny if Dragons Sovereign have connections to "Long The Permanence" 😂
@rickynguyen5108
@rickynguyen5108 3 ай бұрын
​​​​@@chilleroftheknight Yep. The Dragon Sovereigns, Celestia and its gods, and the Primordial One and its 4 Shades are FAR ABOVE the Archons in power (the pecking order). The Archons are scared shitless of Celestia as they all know it will not hesitate to nuke their asses and nations to oblivion if they try stupid crap against it, not to mention that the gods of Celestia are far superior to them (Archons). Basically, Archons are the worms inside of the dirt.
@natsu9757
@natsu9757 3 ай бұрын
I really like how you easily explain your videos! Thank you so much! I’m so happy I subscribed to you because your videos are so interesting and informative that’s easy for me to understand ❤ Keep up the amazing work! ❤❤
@Gimtired292
@Gimtired292 3 ай бұрын
The first boss we meet in hsr legit is stated to be a planet buster who follows the path of destruction... if thats a mere entity that serves under nanook capable of destroying likely all of teyvat then a single aeon would be overkill.
@chanvax2111
@chanvax2111 3 ай бұрын
Archons wouldn't even beat emanators
@peterjutsu
@peterjutsu 3 ай бұрын
lmaoo part of me wants to believe that archons are equivalent to emanators but i have a suspicion that theyre really just very powerful pathstriders after all they did not receive no gaze from an aeon
@chanvax2111
@chanvax2111 3 ай бұрын
​@@peterjutsuArchons are Island level, emanators can go up to galaxy level.
@Frostborne2778
@Frostborne2778 3 ай бұрын
@@chanvax2111 Acheron can force the outcome that she wants. It’s her ability as the Emanator of Finality. So, technically, she could beat anyone we’ve met so far. Except for Sam. Sam isn’t built to lose, he’s built to be an ultra chad winner 🗿
@tencive5749
@tencive5749 3 ай бұрын
Shes not a confirmed Emanator of finality tho that is the most plausible theory rn​@@Frostborne2778
@chanvax2111
@chanvax2111 3 ай бұрын
@@tencive5749 Her path ingame is nihility, the newest set is her best in slot set, the flowers in the set are the exact same ones in her drip marketing, her ingame voiceline "blood debt" aligns with the lore of the new set involving the Nihility. There is more proof to her being a nihility emanator, she just needs to stop larping as a Galaxy Ranger/Hunt worshipper in the next update and we will know.
@lf4310
@lf4310 3 ай бұрын
Please do Honkai series powerscaling next like houkai 2 Honkai impact 3 and Honkai star rail. That would be alot fair comparison
@simp_Bronya
@simp_Bronya 3 ай бұрын
I’m not very good at GGZ, so I can only say about hi3rd. Aeons > Herrschers. There’s no need to even argue here, aeons are outside of one specific world, and herrschers exist only in one world and often lose to people. In honkai impact everything will be worse than aeons, and sometimes even emanators.
@RSatoshi
@RSatoshi 3 ай бұрын
​@@simp_Bronyaim so confuse isnt Herrsherr far stronger than Aeon🤔. Or is it just Finality?
@user-wi8dj2we5n
@user-wi8dj2we5n 3 ай бұрын
He probably won't be able to. It is essentially impossible to locate hg2 relative to the other two and requires extrapolation of facts, and these extrapolations can be done in very different ways. To understand the extent of the problem, the only full-fledged canonical connection between their settings is the words of the developers. Comparing Hi3 and HSR is easier, but still a little problematic due to the weak disclosure of HSR powers. The most likely hierarchy is Aeons >= Cocoon > Emanators > Strong herrshers > strong HSR mortals and weak emanators > irrelevant garbage. For clarification: the Cocoon simultaneously influenced only one planet and spread its roots across the solar system, which is approximately equal to a strong emanator and much lower than Aeons, while it influenced infinite parallel timelines of this planet, which is effectively infinitely more than anything in the HSR, with In this case, Aeons have a decent chance of a similar ability, but this is not shown in any way in the game. So purely in terms of screen achievements, Cocoon is infinity times stronger, but with a moderate extrapolation of metaphysics it is much weaker than eons. Emanators and Hershers have a similar problem - emanators are much stronger, but have not shown any significant abilities and can do little against, for example, Sirin's imaginary shield, which will simply make their attacks unreal. At the same time, extrapolating from the metaphysics of the setting, they should have more impressive abilities than the Hercherrs and easily defeat them. This may all change once the powers of the HSR characters are better explained.
@simp_Bronya
@simp_Bronya 3 ай бұрын
@@RSatoshi , Herrschers are much weaker than Aeons, even HoFin
@kangelparfait
@kangelparfait 3 ай бұрын
Idk shi so im gonna assume ggz gods > aeons > herrschers > archons
@AraYuannn
@AraYuannn 3 ай бұрын
This is coughing baby vs hydrogen bomb
@haninjamaxflare555
@haninjamaxflare555 3 ай бұрын
I feel like the reason you made this video is because a lot of people are asking which one is stronger haha, but it's a great a video nonetheless 🎉
@haninjamaxflare555
@haninjamaxflare555 3 ай бұрын
And as of now (prior to ZZZ release) Genshin probably has the lowest power scaling from the Hoyoverse (well unless you include Tears of Themis and FlyMe2TheMoon, but they're not really a combat game so i won't include them here).
@dontshitontravelermains5498
@dontshitontravelermains5498 3 ай бұрын
Nah, I feel like it has something to do with THAT one particular TikTok video where the creator decided to just make a battle between 7 archons VS 4 aeons (Nanook, Yaoshi, Lan, Xipe). And surprisingly, half of the comment section actually think archons are able to beat the aeons 💀
@haninjamaxflare555
@haninjamaxflare555 3 ай бұрын
@@dontshitontravelermains5498 Why is it always TikTok T_T
@rickynguyen5108
@rickynguyen5108 3 ай бұрын
​@@dontshitontravelermains5498 Yeah, that's so stupid. Shows that they have NO knowledge of Honkai lore.
@shampickle9458
@shampickle9458 3 ай бұрын
Bro really asking us if coughing adults will win against super massive black holes
@bluesapphire5009
@bluesapphire5009 3 ай бұрын
Bro this video shouldn't exist bro you just use baby vs nitrogen bomb meme at this point 💀
@PA70805
@PA70805 Ай бұрын
Small mistake about IX. He has no form or precisely the black holes are only his shadows. He is shapeless and formless he is nihility. That’s mean you can destroy them but it won’t do any thing to him.
@diren-oh6zw
@diren-oh6zw 3 ай бұрын
Not even a debate aoens control concepts while acehorns only control elements😂.Gret vid tho❤
@saahil0855
@saahil0855 3 ай бұрын
That too using borrowed powers from the Dragon Sovereigns...Genshin Archons are literally no different than mortals in front of an Aeon...!!!!
@imdani4997
@imdani4997 3 ай бұрын
@@saahil0855 more like 'taken', right? If I remember correctly
@saahil0855
@saahil0855 3 ай бұрын
@@imdani4997 I mean the Archons didn't necessarily take the power from the Dragon Sovereigns it's the Intruders that came from beyond the sky that did it and then gave those powers to the 7 Archons so I'd say borrowed.
@xxalderxx8036
@xxalderxx8036 3 ай бұрын
"Acehorns"?
@mohamedmohamedyoussouf4853
@mohamedmohamedyoussouf4853 3 ай бұрын
Archon have no control over thé éléments they are only supposés to bé thé best at using it and give vision
@BadassHatdog
@BadassHatdog 3 ай бұрын
I can't believe I would see an 8-minute video about Archon vs Aeon lol
@Xolents
@Xolents 3 ай бұрын
Ain't no way this is an actual comparison
@jakeblitzcoffie4859
@jakeblitzcoffie4859 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, it's hard to believe. Most people who even debate this at all haven't played anything Honkai related. I don't even understand how anyone comes to that conclusion at all. At the beginning of HSR, we defeat a Dragon who is a planet destroyer. Meanwhile, the biggest feat in Genshin is the PO terriforming a continent alongside his 4 shades. The Archons are island level max, and the dragons are country to continental at best. The highest I see Genshin ever getting to is moon level by the end of the game. The fact that the people of Khanrieh were such a threat that Celestia had to nuke their nation says it all. Meanwhile, Aha blew up a planet for fun, and Lan destroys planets with his arrows. And they aren't even the strongest Aeons. 😂
@squeegie
@squeegie 3 ай бұрын
Aeons can directly use their follower/worshiper/or simply someonw who is on their path by gazing upon them and making them an emanator; someone who can directly use/borrow the power of the Aeon of their path. Each Aeon can seem to have as many emanator as they want. So far we have witnessed a few emanators in the trailblazer's journey: Phantylia, Herta, Black Swan, and 2 we can assume to be enamators are Sunday and Acheron. (It is theorized Trailblazer is also an emanator, but one that can follow multiple paths, which is supposed to be... impossible, since lots of paths contradict the other paths: preservation and destruction). We know of more through the story line, but they have not directly shown themselves in the game or they are already dead. Even the Aeon that has supposedly have died can have followers, such as Akivili and Adrila.
@King_Vavos
@King_Vavos 3 ай бұрын
Make a video of HSR Aeons and Hi3 Herrschers please?
@jakeblitzcoffie4859
@jakeblitzcoffie4859 3 ай бұрын
Herrschers neg. Not all, but the stronger ones like Origin, Truth, and Finality/End. You know why? Better feats/statments and higher dimensionality. Simple as that. People who even make this a debate to begin with usually know nothing about Hi3 lore. 😂
@dandetorres4058
@dandetorres4058 2 ай бұрын
​​@@jakeblitzcoffie4859nah, GGZ pretty much confirmed that aeons are stronger than herrecherr. IF you think that all lore dumps are in HI3 then you know nothing about Hoyo gamew
@jakeblitzcoffie4859
@jakeblitzcoffie4859 2 ай бұрын
@dandetorres4058 Ummm. I don't. The biggest lore dumps come from Ggz. It's because of Ggz that Herrschers and Honkai in general is stronger than Aeons.
@dandetorres4058
@dandetorres4058 2 ай бұрын
@@jakeblitzcoffie4859 it was stated in GGZ that Aeons are the one who filters in honkai to their respective path, this is lowkey telling us thst aeons are stronger than herrscherr, and this is GGZ herrscherr we are talking about which is far stronger than HI3 herrscherr
@jakeblitzcoffie4859
@jakeblitzcoffie4859 2 ай бұрын
@dandetorres4058 If that was stated, it wasn't talking about the Aeons of HSR. Also, I have never once heard that. Aeons exist in part of the Imaginary Tree, while the Honkai governs all of it alongside Finality. Aeons aren't capable of transcending all dimensions like Finality can, and they lack the same level of authority of the Imaginary Tree as a whole.
@rubiepie
@rubiepie 3 ай бұрын
If we added lore in honkai Impact and also GGZ. Aeons are like Outer gods. Herrschers are either the same level as Archon or Same level as eminators. Or even strongers in some cases. Then the Will of honkai is probably similar to Aeons.
@tencive5749
@tencive5749 3 ай бұрын
Archons are weaker than Herrschers while Emanators can have a lower bound weaker than Herrschers or a higher bound(especially those of Destruction) far eclipsing all Herrschers except maybe Finality or Origin, maybe Rebirth considering it's similarity to Abundance
@Yssring_Leavtruth
@Yssring_Leavtruth 3 ай бұрын
nah i think herrscher like HoFin n Origin or probably SA n some S rank valkryie battlesuit could be stronger than the aeon based on how "honkai" works (taken from both ggz and Hi3 lore). But, for ggz herrschers & valkryie no debate, almost all of them are stronger than the aeon, even a honkai beast could easily destroy a moon surface and HoTE
@nemasisdemarini8339
@nemasisdemarini8339 3 ай бұрын
Outside of Finality, who is essentially just the physical embodiment of Honkai in the world, most herrschers would be solidly in the emanator range of power, if not higher. It's not as noticeable most of the time, due to their generally limited scale of use, but a herrschers baseline capability is to warp physics to their whim. It's not seen often, due to the combined facts that honkai is actually relatively sparse in the world until Finality comes, and the fact that most modern herrschers actively just don't want to destroy the world at large. But yeah, their powers literally disregard physics. It's just how they work.
@pri-ma
@pri-ma 3 ай бұрын
Dragon Sovereign, Shades, and Primordial One are probably the only teyvat's godly beings that can be comparable to Herrchers in terms of law-bending power. Gods that were created by Primordial One could hardly reach them.
@dorqm
@dorqm 3 ай бұрын
Aeon Is no Outer god tho. I mean most of them Ascend to Aeonhood, And they doesn't even fully Govern The Imaginary Tree Will of Honkai (The One In GGZ) Transcend The Imaginary tree already and Honkai Is generally More powerful due to Dimensionality which Make Herrscher Scale higher. Hoyoverse scaling Confused me alot..
@cruxxmamy319
@cruxxmamy319 3 ай бұрын
i just saw twit abt this topics luckily stumble upon cat's video on yt
@stellar4893
@stellar4893 3 ай бұрын
Feels like watching a Dark Souls lore video that's crafted from speculation of in-game item description, environment and dialogue.
@muzlapo
@muzlapo 3 ай бұрын
I mean, one single laugh from Aha is more than enough to obilerate the archons💀💀🙏
@handaranda
@handaranda 3 ай бұрын
What have you done Mr. Cat? I haven't watched the video but I gotta say Aeon. HSR isn't limited to 1 world so I'd be disappointed if they weren't stronger.
@youandme8076
@youandme8076 3 ай бұрын
Yea, it's already been established that aeons are far FAR stronger than archons. Heck, even their emanator are stronger. One of Nanook's emanators, a Lord Ravager, is said to once make a star explode to destroy an entire solar systems along with its habitable planets.
@everettjoseph6189
@everettjoseph6189 3 ай бұрын
i think the more fitting to compare for aeons are the elemental dragon sovereigns considering how the gods of teyvat like other comments say that they more like represent an ideal and the element but the dragon sovereigns are the embodiment of those elements mainly that they are like the creator of all things in teyvat
@jackinuzuki2890
@jackinuzuki2890 3 ай бұрын
There is not much comparison anyway, cuz being an embodiment of an element in teyvat(world), can't even destroy worlds, solar systems, galaxies. against universal transcendant beings that are living concepts that are the embodiment of their path. Dragons may have existed before PO invaded teyvat, but they lost to PO, PO is continent level at the very least. Even if PO is world level, it is not enough in lightyears.
@adamantine001
@adamantine001 3 ай бұрын
Great breakdown. Now I'm intrigued to know where Herrschers position would be. I used to play HI3 and the way I see them is probably just equal to that of an Archon (like Herrscher of Thunder which basically equal to Raiden Shogun in Genshin), although some of them was leaning more on the conceptual side like Herrscher of Death, Finality, Human Ego.
@simp_Bronya
@simp_Bronya 3 ай бұрын
Aeons > Emanators >= Herreshrs > Archons
@jakeblitzcoffie4859
@jakeblitzcoffie4859 3 ай бұрын
​@@simp_BronyaNo. Herrschers > Aeons > Emanators/weaker Herrschers > Archons
@simp_Bronya
@simp_Bronya 3 ай бұрын
@@jakeblitzcoffie4859 , Creatures existing within the framework of one specific world, purely logically, cannot be stronger than creatures that exist outside the framework of the world and are capable of calmly being in imaginary
@dandetorres4058
@dandetorres4058 2 ай бұрын
​@@jakeblitzcoffie4859in GGZ it was said that Aeons are the one who filters honkai in to their respective paths, with that sentence its pretty much lowkey telling us that Aeons are stronger than Herrscherr.
@jakeblitzcoffie4859
@jakeblitzcoffie4859 2 ай бұрын
@dandetorres4058 The concept of the Aeons in Hoyoverse didn't exist in Ggz. Aeons are above common Herrschers but below Origin, Truth, and Finality. It really depends on the Herrscher.
@just_tom_solomon1210
@just_tom_solomon1210 3 ай бұрын
If I'm remembering my lore correctly, didn't Lan once move so fast that it registered as a gravitational anomaly and within that same time blow up a planet? That was a mid tier Aeon according to welt.
@mohamedmohamedyoussouf4853
@mohamedmohamedyoussouf4853 3 ай бұрын
IX destroy plantes by accident and the Doomsday beast the first boss of the game Can destroy plantes and isn't even an emanator
@examoneslameraverga5074
@examoneslameraverga5074 3 ай бұрын
It was 76 light years away from the space station and he had gone out of the radar in half a second. The actual fastest thing in the universe is Lan.
@ironwoodkid9577
@ironwoodkid9577 3 ай бұрын
Insert "Coughing baby vs hydrogen bomb" meme here
@defiantmars9910
@defiantmars9910 3 ай бұрын
I don’t know too much about Gnosticism, but from what I recall, Archons are said to preside over the physical world where Aeons are the beings that make worlds? Sophia, the Demiurge, and all that. Someone with more knowledge will have to fact check me. To look at things from a more literary standpoint, the Archons represent Ideals: Freedom, Contracts, etc. They preside over the world below. Whereas Aeons are the embodiment of a Concept: The Destruction, The Preservation, etc. They drive the movements of the cosmos, the world above.
@ricecream3736
@ricecream3736 3 ай бұрын
Sometimes I forgot the 4 star Herta is just one of her many puppets🗿 And we haven't even see a fragment of her power yet 😅
@Xinevlin
@Xinevlin 3 ай бұрын
That means trailblazer our MC after receiving the flaming lance that was originally given to Belobog by Qlipoth, he/she became the emanator of preservation? Because she/he had the influence on Jaliro-VI after Stelarron incident and she/he "receive" gift from Qlipoth in form of Flaming lance.
@karnifall
@karnifall 3 ай бұрын
No, being blessed by an aeon doesn't mean you're an emanator of that aeon Just look at Fu Xuan, she was blessed by Nous and even met Nous once, yet she's not an emanator of erudition
@oldsoulbiz3526
@oldsoulbiz3526 3 ай бұрын
It's still hard to deduce what powers an Emanator can hold. So far we only have seen Herta, Phantylia, and Acheron. None of them openly displayed their true powers. OK, maybe Phantylia a bit where she was able to control people from behind the scenes. But that seems to me more of her heliobus powers since controlling people isn't really a true display of Destruction, and we have no idea how powerful Emanators can really be. I have a feeling we'll find out soon with Acheron. The Trailblazer right now falls in the "Pathstrider" category until we know the actual power of Emanators.
@Xinevlin
@Xinevlin 3 ай бұрын
@@oldsoulbiz3526 ah.. make sense then...
@Xinevlin
@Xinevlin 3 ай бұрын
@@karnifall but yeah, mostly those who blessed by Aeon become emanator, like Herta, Sparkle, Black swan, even Acheron but that still kinda grey for me to accept that she's emanator.
@TheTenzen12
@TheTenzen12 3 ай бұрын
@@karnifall That nowhere said though (I lean to agree that not everyone blessed by Aeon are eminator though). As far as lore is concerned Aeon even glancing your way makes you one. That may be in-unierse overstatment, but it's also closest thing to definition of Emanator. We can share opinions and general consensus, but let's not pretend these are established facts.
@eeveeofalltrades4780
@eeveeofalltrades4780 3 ай бұрын
Considering HooH's followers are said to be mistaken for gods in some worlds, I think The Primordial One might be an Emanator of HooH.
@swapnareddy7073
@swapnareddy7073 3 ай бұрын
What about the higher-level beings like the primordial one or the dragons? and isn't the seven the weakest of the op ppl?
@chilleroftheknight
@chilleroftheknight 3 ай бұрын
The aeons are still stronger. You can see a rating at the end of the vid
@nathanael9159
@nathanael9159 3 ай бұрын
Still not enough. Obviously...
@pqminh3109
@pqminh3109 3 ай бұрын
If you glaze even a second into IX your body and soul will forget that you exist and then your existence is gone gone.
@peterjutsu
@peterjutsu 3 ай бұрын
the primordial one is probably an emanator so yea
@Cursed_Jingliu
@Cursed_Jingliu 3 ай бұрын
​@@peterjutsu I dont think the primordial one can shoot literal planets like Phantylia did
@whatever5401
@whatever5401 3 ай бұрын
Alternate title: Coughing baby vs Supernova explosion
@KING-lw8nv
@KING-lw8nv 3 ай бұрын
This is such a ine sided match But i want the archons to fight any if the xianzhou legends like (IL, jing yuan, jing lui, and blade)
@tencive5749
@tencive5749 3 ай бұрын
Jingliu or blade could probably destroy all 7 archons alone, one through sheer power and the other through attrition(blade has destroyed many many IPC ships, possibly the size of Hertas station alone in his pursuit of Dan Heng, and jingliu surpasses that by far) Zhongli or Raiden could possibly overpower the other Xianzhou Legends though
@Hasan-Firas
@Hasan-Firas 3 ай бұрын
​@@tencive5749IL can just drown them in pure dragon water
@tencive5749
@tencive5749 3 ай бұрын
@@Hasan-Firas right I forgot what he did to shuhu lol And shuhu easily destroys Teyvat solo
@Jackal43
@Jackal43 3 ай бұрын
​@@tencive5749 and jingliu blade is known to cut stars easily
@kurosora8296
@kurosora8296 3 ай бұрын
I wonder if full pledge herrscher power are strong as Emanator
@jakeblitzcoffie4859
@jakeblitzcoffie4859 3 ай бұрын
The Common Herrscher is anywhere from Multi Continental to Planetary level, while stronger ones are anywhere from Multi solarsystem level to low outer. So while the common Herrscher could probably at the very least put up a good fight against an Emanator, the strongest ones straight-up one-shot them alongside the Aeons like the Herrscher of the End/Finality for example.
@AAButtery
@AAButtery 3 ай бұрын
There’s no way this is a serious video lmao. I love it.
@ShiraFuyu2022
@ShiraFuyu2022 3 ай бұрын
I think it's already establish that until ZZZ comes out, Genshin is sitting at the bottom line of the power scaling of all the Hoyo action base game. With GGZ still reigning as the Top. Heck, even Child Griseo could've caused a lot of Damage in Teyvat and she's barely 12 at that moment
@blaze8308
@blaze8308 3 ай бұрын
If a Hoyo game doesn’t have the name Honkai it would be at the bottom of the power scaling 😂
@chilleroftheknight
@chilleroftheknight 3 ай бұрын
@@blaze8308 goes to show that the honkai games (might) are the lovechilds
@blaze8308
@blaze8308 3 ай бұрын
@@chilleroftheknight It has been shown multiple times. I don’t understand how people still don’t understand this. Genshin was a experiment which got successful due to Corona. Now it is their fund raiser for their other honkai games.
@dendifikriyansyah7028
@dendifikriyansyah7028 3 ай бұрын
​@@chilleroftheknight not lovechilds, their lore and stories is just matured soo much from several years of contents. Even ggz start from the bottom tier first
@chilleroftheknight
@chilleroftheknight 3 ай бұрын
@@dendifikriyansyah7028 what about hsr? It just started in terms of the others but it's story is and lore is fleshed out
@pyrite2060
@pyrite2060 3 ай бұрын
ill never be earlier. also any aeon solos teyvat, let alone the archons
@mohamedmohamedyoussouf4853
@mohamedmohamedyoussouf4853 3 ай бұрын
The antimater légion could destroy teyvat
@Ugotsomemilk
@Ugotsomemilk 3 ай бұрын
One controls an element while another can decide 40k lvl battles with a single stroke
@Flamelance_Accendo
@Flamelance_Accendo 2 ай бұрын
Well this went just about as I would've thought.
@gingerroot420
@gingerroot420 3 ай бұрын
The only reason I’d see for an aeon not winning would be that fighting the archon doesn’t align with their path. Qlipoth had to be convinced in some way to intervene during the swarm disaster, so it’s unlikely that an archon would show up on the radar of most aeons
@nguyenhuuhiep1505
@nguyenhuuhiep1505 3 ай бұрын
Everywhere I scroll, I see "Nanook's fart".
@BP-0.0.0
@BP-0.0.0 3 ай бұрын
coughing baby vs hydrogen bomb 💀
@lampsy7395
@lampsy7395 3 ай бұрын
The worm that Aha turned into an Emanator would've been a better match lol
@tunderblood
@tunderblood 3 ай бұрын
Wait wait wait, where would the stellaron hunters fit in here, are they pathstriders? If so why did acheron draw her blade out against sam in the white night music video, i guess its too soon to tell, we know almost nothing about the stellaron hunters yet
@BlondeHairWithBangs
@BlondeHairWithBangs 3 ай бұрын
I know comment section will be full on Lobotomy Kaisen 💀
@Nataninko
@Nataninko 3 ай бұрын
Aeons reign over the universe and are universal level at the very least. Archons don't even reign over a planet, they reign over a country in a continet of the world they're on, in a galaxy, that's in a possibly bubble universe in the world of HI3 How do people not get that?
@Zero0Zero0000
@Zero0Zero0000 3 ай бұрын
Tbh, I would enlarge the gap of Pathstriders to be even less powerful than Vision holders. We have, for example, Asta who is a follower of Nous, and probably Qlipoth because of her family, and she isn't really powerful. Like, a lot of the playable characters are actually pretty weak in canon (QQ, Hook, Bronya, Luka, Serval, etc.). But we also have very powerful Pathstriders like Kafka who can control sentient beings, Black Swan who can do more than what has been shown to us, etc. That would be a fun video if you decided to do it. The canonical power scaling of characters.
@rawr30009
@rawr30009 3 ай бұрын
Path striders power differs actually, some of them are literally just normal people, but we also have welt with the star of eden, himeko with her orbital Canon, and the doomsday beast that could destroy a planet.
@xinshi3090
@xinshi3090 3 ай бұрын
Mr. Preservation has a massive bonk hammer. Nothing gonna stop that
@muhammadredzuan6323
@muhammadredzuan6323 3 ай бұрын
can u compare between aeons from hsr and hersherrs from honkai impact?
@jakeblitzcoffie4859
@jakeblitzcoffie4859 3 ай бұрын
HoTE/HoFi > HoO > HoTr > Aeons > Stronger Herrschers = Emanators > Common Herrschers
@chelo136
@chelo136 3 ай бұрын
@@jakeblitzcoffie4859 Aeons are over true herrschers in my book , only Outer gods from GGZ are over Aeons, but we dont have enough info on Aeons yet to know for sure
@jakeblitzcoffie4859
@jakeblitzcoffie4859 3 ай бұрын
@chelo136 There are statements that make me think otherwise. Such as Kiana's authority transcending all dimensions, 1% of her power being able to blow up a planet, being able to create and destroy bubble universes at will, and all the feats that HoTE had from PE and before. Herrschers manipulate conceptual laws, while Aeons embody said concepts. That's the key difference between them. Herrschers have more overall authority on a grander scale but lack the destructive power of the Aeons minus Finality, while Aeons have more raw destructive power than most Herrschers. Kiana is currently nigh omnipotent, and she is in my book the strongest being currently in Hoyoverse only under Ggz.
@chelo136
@chelo136 3 ай бұрын
@@jakeblitzcoffie4859 While all that is true, the thing is that Aeons are not equals, they are Aeons that are way stronger than others , like the propagation , they need multiple aeons all working together to strike it down . The weakeast aeons are way stronger than the weakest herrchers, thats why i think the strongets aeons that we havent saw their power so far could be stronger that the strongets herrchers like Terminus the finality , but at this point you are correct that Kiana have the better feats and she would be the strongest, but because of the scale (like in HSR humans have bombs that can explode multiple solar systems ) Aeons should be stronger if they are suppose to be a big threat
@adriantepes4355
@adriantepes4355 3 ай бұрын
​@@jakeblitzcoffie4859 Kiana doesn't have omnipotence though. She doesn't even know the limits of her own power yet. Finally, CoF and Kiana feat wise only operate on a world level. Universally CoF's presence is not even felt. Thus by No Limits Fallacy rule we can say that CoF is world level (or world+) while Kiana is anywhere between planetary to world (since her power source is CoF)
@axelleonhart181
@axelleonhart181 3 ай бұрын
man, i think welt alone can destroy planet, even teyvat
@adyjati8667
@adyjati8667 3 ай бұрын
well, he is a herrscer, so ofc he can if he wanted to
@idontspeakjapanese6289
@idontspeakjapanese6289 3 ай бұрын
Isn't that a bit of a over exageration? Isn't he supposed to be nerfed already compared to who he was before he gave his core to Bronya
@plushyneko
@plushyneko 3 ай бұрын
​@@idontspeakjapanese6289 He still has ownership of divine key(s).
@CrossMight
@CrossMight 3 ай бұрын
nope,he definetly have the power defeat archons in 1v1 tho.Just,not plantet destruction level.Especially when Celestia exists with Primordial One and Four Shades 💀
@axelleonhart181
@axelleonhart181 3 ай бұрын
@@CrossMight i see, but his synthetic black hole is really something
@blablaminh4869
@blablaminh4869 3 ай бұрын
Can i have the name of the song which was used in the vid?
@Decrith
@Decrith 3 ай бұрын
Admit it! You saw the tweet comparing them and decided to make a video!
@vanta789
@vanta789 3 ай бұрын
I will laugh at anyone that thinks Archons are worth a salt compared to Aeons.
@EnderBroadcast
@EnderBroadcast 3 ай бұрын
Genshin is still better
@vanta789
@vanta789 3 ай бұрын
@@EnderBroadcast L Take. And this comes from someone who plays both and other gacha games.
@infamouspotato2028
@infamouspotato2028 3 ай бұрын
Bruh archons ain't even taking on early herrschers from honkai like herrscher of thunder, forget about aeons
@Khann_2102
@Khann_2102 3 ай бұрын
​@@EnderBroadcastWhat is bro yapping about
@EnderBroadcast
@EnderBroadcast 3 ай бұрын
@@infamouspotato2028 Did I say that, retard?
@timo7641
@timo7641 3 ай бұрын
Herrscher of Finality and Deliverance Kevin: ah yes, breakfast
@Cata-qp6fi
@Cata-qp6fi 3 ай бұрын
I was thinking about this XD
@meltyice_cc
@meltyice_cc 3 ай бұрын
a single shot from Kiana's Finality Bullet can flip Hoyo's power-scale
@victorpedrosoceolin3919
@victorpedrosoceolin3919 3 ай бұрын
The aeons are on a higher scale than herrschers, maybe even an emanator is stronger than them
@timo7641
@timo7641 3 ай бұрын
@@victorpedrosoceolin3919 you play HI3?
@victorpedrosoceolin3919
@victorpedrosoceolin3919 3 ай бұрын
@@timo7641 no, but i know that the whole game happens inside one or two bubble universes. Star rail happen in the entire colective of bubble universes of the imaginary tree
@DementiaWrittenRat
@DementiaWrittenRat 14 күн бұрын
Archon: Ruler of the world Aeon: Ruler of the universe
@ashenzenden
@ashenzenden 3 ай бұрын
3:05 sick audio transition btw
@spymadmax584
@spymadmax584 3 ай бұрын
Akivili is in a world where he himself gets one shotted even before thinking of killing them. One will laugh at all of them tho, looking at the powerscaling in hi3😂😂
@lordknight7696
@lordknight7696 3 ай бұрын
Imagine rampaging all of tevyat with a train truly poetic
@idontspeakjapanese6289
@idontspeakjapanese6289 3 ай бұрын
Not enough to beat Ast Rickley's Rick Roll and his God, the ultimate troll, Aha
@jaysonilao631
@jaysonilao631 3 ай бұрын
​@@lordknight7696running a drive-by with a train
@CompleteReview
@CompleteReview 3 ай бұрын
Also, note that Aeons are once something/one that is "normal". They can be an insect, a supercomputer, a human, a drop of water, a joke, a concept, anything, then they "transcend".
@Auvlen24
@Auvlen24 3 ай бұрын
as long as its a concept yeah
@Doflaminguard
@Doflaminguard 3 ай бұрын
as long as they have conscience to seek what they want, they can become an Aeon of what they pursue. However, if they ever become one, they cannot stray from the path they pursuit or they will fall out of power. Meaning they are both the strongest and prisoner of their own path.
@Hasan-Firas
@Hasan-Firas 3 ай бұрын
Even a fucking black hole somehow obtained consciousness and is now the embodiment of nothingness
@CompleteReview
@CompleteReview 3 ай бұрын
@@Doflaminguard imagine being a prisoned deity only to be eaten by another prisoned deity one day 😂
@Truck-kun11
@Truck-kun11 3 ай бұрын
We have to remember that Archon is a title given by Celestia while Eons are beings that have transcended to a higher level of existence, so the comparison is simply not equivalent. Perhaps the Primordial One who was able to fight 8 Dragon Sovereigns and terraformed all of Teyvat is on a similar level, but any other being below him I doubt.
@rodstonmillare1134
@rodstonmillare1134 3 ай бұрын
are the hexenzirkel also same level as archons?(I don't read lore xD)
@K9RIAH
@K9RIAH 3 ай бұрын
Nope
@georgechannyeinlwin6743
@georgechannyeinlwin6743 3 ай бұрын
Just common sense can get the answer correct. Even a character as powerful as Kafka compared with Aeons is like comparing a water drop to an ocean.
@tenderjuicyhotdog27
@tenderjuicyhotdog27 3 ай бұрын
Nanook Farting is enough to wipe the whole TEYVAT!
@BoB-13
@BoB-13 23 күн бұрын
Thanks for the lore.
@outsiderd
@outsiderd 3 ай бұрын
Barbatos: Don't expect too much from me. I'm weak. Squirels in the summer region of the game: Yeah Barbatos was like "let me air my region a bit" and sliced some mountains just like that, throwing them into the sea and making the archipelago here. Meh... crazy Wednesday. Adepty: Morax won the archon war by burying his opponents under mountain sized spears and hence was rewarded with his gnosis that allowed him to create infinite wealth. Azdaha: Rumors about his power have been greatly exaggerated... Ei: The shogun checks, controls and decides the amount of power needed when using the musou no hitotachi, be it the power to cut a rock or a mountain in half. Kazuha stops it. The traveler who was it's target: "Am i a joke to you?" (Raiden: "yes... yes you are" :P ) Ifrit: The mighty embodiment of destruction destroyed my meager star of origin and from the ashes of our world our life came to be. Praise be to the glorious destruction of existence. I will bla bla bla... Nanook: I don't know what this dude is talking about. I just sneezed...
@pixelrose_
@pixelrose_ 3 ай бұрын
nanook breathes and teyvat is deleted like rhukkadevata
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