Mulch as a Drylands Strategy

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Discover Permaculture with Geoff Lawton

Discover Permaculture with Geoff Lawton

2 жыл бұрын

Mulch is absolutely crucial to getting a new system going. Deserts are particularly in need of it as the soil life and ecosystem have been severely damaged and disabled.
Herbaceous material is great, but woody material is extremely important for developing the fungal soils that are good for growing trees. The woody, “chop-and-drop” material really needs to be cut into small pieces so that it can break down, and it will break down even more quickly beneath groundcovers that are trapping humidity.
All the leaves and twigs and bits of wood feed the soil, and this begins the process of growing lots of plants and lots of diversity. The more diversity in what’s growing, the more organic and woody matter that is added to the soil to further feed and broaden the system.
And then, the broadened system will create a fuller nutrient and mineral profile to the landscape as it breaks down. And, on the system grows.
When you feed the soil, you can feed the world!
Key Takeaways
- Using lots of mulch is a key strategy in starting new growing systems, particularly in arid climates where moisture is lost and, thus, soil ecology is minimal.
- Woody mulch material-cut into small pieces-is extremely important because it, rather than herbaceous mulch, fosters fungal soils that are good for trees.
- As the leaves, twigs, and branches break down, they create a better-suited environment for more diverse plant life. That plant life then breaks down and broadens the system again. And the process repeats into rich botanical diversity growing in very fertile soils.
- “If you feed the soil, you can feed the world.”
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@puskycarrera
@puskycarrera 2 жыл бұрын
Hi everyone. I have been using these methods in Saudi Arabia for more that a year now and have had amazing results. The same exact spices have been used. More lucina and siganporian daise. I will post videos on it soon to the channel. Very exciting to see that Geoff is recommending these trees and herbs as mulch and I’ve been lucky enough to be using them by chance.
@louisegogel7973
@louisegogel7973 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome!!! May your good example spread through to your family, friends, neighbors, and beyond!
@QUINTUSMAXIMUS
@QUINTUSMAXIMUS 2 жыл бұрын
What's the name of the channel, how can we find it.
@HladniSjeverniVjetar
@HladniSjeverniVjetar 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing work. How much rainfall do you get yearly? How do you deal with water gathering?
@Shin-gh1xy
@Shin-gh1xy Жыл бұрын
السلام عليكم شاكر، ممكن تشرح لي اكثر عن الطرق الي جربتها ونفعت معك ؟ انا في المدينة واحاول ازرع
@am-et4nc
@am-et4nc Жыл бұрын
Channel??
@bitlessmind
@bitlessmind Жыл бұрын
I've asked the neighbours in our village for their cuttings to get a decent amount of mulch. They still provide it to me and I'm very thankful for it.
@TheJesusFreeke
@TheJesusFreeke Жыл бұрын
I love the low key statement that y'all broke records for olive oil quality...I have no doubt you all produce some of the most incredible, nutrient-dense foods ever. As a child, I thought botany was boring. Now I know our lives literally depend on it, so I guess it's not so boring anymore.... :)
@hebronwatson9532
@hebronwatson9532 Жыл бұрын
Ok, I see you. Jesus and Permaculture, eh? The way the world is going, I think that combo is gonna get more and more popular. That's the team I rep, anyways. God and His ways above everything else.
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166 5 ай бұрын
@@hebronwatson9532 let's not be discussing cults in polite company, okay?
@ninemoonplanet
@ninemoonplanet 2 жыл бұрын
I showed your videos to my neighbours, two from Qatar, the rest from Palestine. They showed strong interest in how much change can be achieved in that hyper arid land. Are any students/instructors able to get into Palestine and teach those farmers permaculture? It's one thing they really could use.. When I first saw that land, dusty, rocky, barren, I said to myself, "Wow, that's one challenge I don't think I could take on." Years of progress is so wondrous, replacing dust to green. Thank you, for the people who live in Jordan, relatives of my neighbours, and training people to finally get some progressive actions to have foods without the costs of import.
@fillfinish7302
@fillfinish7302 2 жыл бұрын
Works better in palestine than qatar
@ninemoonplanet
@ninemoonplanet 2 жыл бұрын
Israeli military blocks Palestinians from crossing into Jordan, so even if the Palestinians could afford it, they couldn't get to Jordan. I realize Geoff would need Israeli permission to enter Palestine, and would need to assemble farmers or others to get to him. Unfortunately Israel is operating an apartheid system, so Geoff or anyone from Jordan would have to abide by Israeli military rules and oversight. Palestinians need this type of help.
@s.m.a8182
@s.m.a8182 2 жыл бұрын
Its israeli land and they already working on a permaculture method in the south east if the negev where no one lives. Nobody cares about fakestine , they should move to jordan.
@LaJewel
@LaJewel Жыл бұрын
@@ninemoonplanet I've been thinking about desert permaculture for Palestine for a decade. Don't wait for Geoff to arrive - have your palestinian friends watch the videos on KZfaq and start following the info. They can probably take the course online, maybe even for free.
@sometimeallthetime
@sometimeallthetime 9 ай бұрын
@@ninemoonplanetAnyone from that region knows that the Jordanian military won’t allow anyone through who has been through the Israeli border. Stop bringing politics into places where it is not welcome, this is an educational video
@BarbaraC02
@BarbaraC02 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all of your videos... especially the ones addressing dryland strategies. I live in Tucson, Arizona within the Sonoran Desert. It's definitely capable of growing more but the long drought we've been experiencing is a challenge. I've been following your advice for 6 years and I'm able to grow and keep alive more by mulching (rocks, wood chips, horse/cow manure/ chicken manure mixed with pine shavings). I grew 20ft Laucaena trees, so beautifully, but lost them during our winter and 3 hard freezes (zone 9b). They are slowly coming back in May. I plant vegetables in 15 gallon containers under mesquite trees so they receive some shade during heat. I like your perennial suggestion. I found Mexican Petunia's pretty and an easy to grow, self seeding (a pest at times) ground cover. It's been great for mulching. Love all of your videos, thank you and your team.
@RegenerativeMojave
@RegenerativeMojave 2 жыл бұрын
That's awesome, and that pest of yours will be your best friend for mulch creation.
@b_uppy
@b_uppy 2 жыл бұрын
2 questions regarding Mexican petunia 1) is the botanical name RUELLIA BRITTONIANA? 2) Does it take up more moisture than succulents would. Think I'd want a less water thirsty living mulch.
@BarbaraC02
@BarbaraC02 2 жыл бұрын
@@b_uppy Yes, you have the correct botanical name. I can't answer your other question ... haven't compared the two plants. I know that Mexican petunias grow easily and are tolerant to dry spells. Where there is watering happening in support of other plants my Mexican Petunia's will grow up to 5 feet tall. They make great mulch in the late fall. If left in the garden they will bloom almost all year.
@b_uppy
@b_uppy 2 жыл бұрын
@@BarbaraC02 They are quite nice looking. Hopefully they continue to work 9ut.
@ourrockydreamontheelephant4188
@ourrockydreamontheelephant4188 2 жыл бұрын
Have you tried Moringas ,we're north of you in the Mojave .
@lupineallen5039
@lupineallen5039 Жыл бұрын
For anyone living in AZ, I know that these methods are a lot about getting non-native plants to grow, but we actually have many native food plants! In fact, all 3 of our main native legumes: palo verde, ironwood and mesqute, are edible and delicious! So I highly recommend using them as shade, mulch and food while actively supporting native wildlife :) We have so many other edible native plants too like chia, cholla, prickly pear, saguaro, saltbushes etc! Im definitely not advocating against bringing in things like olives and whatnot, but adding in native plants whenever you can is a great way to support ourselves and our pollinators :D (Ps AZ has the highest diversities of native bee species in the US and possibly the world!)
@mandandi
@mandandi 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative. I have seen the benefits of this over the past 3 years. The soil in my yard is getting better at supporting more plants and grasses. I simply let the grasses grow without chopping it thru the rainy season, at which point I cut it all and made compost with it. This past rainy season, I did the chop-and-drop using the grass and the vegetables I grew are thriving, as well as some trees. Now I am using goat manure in and on top of the soil and mulch with the grass on top of the manure. I don't need to water as much, the soil stays moist longer. So I use less water to water my plants. In fact, I use water from cleaning utensils I give chickens water in most of the time now. My water bill hasn't gone up by much despite growing more plants. Compost tea from goat dung has percolated deep into the soil too and helps with improving nutrient profile of the soil. Worms are more plentiful too. Over the next few months after southern hemisphere winter, I will be planting lots of fruit trees finally. I hope to have a food forest in a few years in my yard.
@B30pt87
@B30pt87 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations! Hint, bury biochar. It's even better if you soak the biochar in a nutritive solution. See the "Garden Like A Viking" You Tube channel for more on this.
@mandandi
@mandandi 2 жыл бұрын
@@B30pt87 Thanks. I will check it out.
@TheModernHermeticist
@TheModernHermeticist Жыл бұрын
Thanks Geoff, you're the king.
@cherylreid5768
@cherylreid5768 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Geoff, family and team. At a time of never ending bad news your permaculture videos are a wonderful, positive tonic for the spirit. I visited your own permaculture farm seven years ago and it remains one of the most uplifting experiences of my life. I am lucky to live in a similar environment not far from there and constantly refer to your teachings in an effort to become more self sufficient. 💕
@jesssmart7545
@jesssmart7545 2 жыл бұрын
Geoff’s back, such inspirational work
@louisegogel7973
@louisegogel7973 2 жыл бұрын
This is awesome Geoff. Thank you for the more in depth tour and explanation of mulching. When I was living near the sea on Cape Cod, I mulched my raspberry patch with ten inches of washed up sea weed. The soil temp, moisture, and fertility were wonderful. I never had to pull out any unwanted plants around the raspberry plants. And there was always an super abundance of delicious raspberries, enough to tide us over winter! Mulching is something superb to do.
@TheParadiseParadox
@TheParadiseParadox Жыл бұрын
We're planning on how to use some of your techniques here on the ranch in Jalisco, Mexico. Fortunately we don't have so many problems with water, considering there's a rainy season that lasts for about 4 months, and also some natural springs on the property. Even so, many parts of the property get very dry during the dry season, so we hope to look at cultivating ground cover and mulching to keep the moisture in for the whole year. We're looking at the plants we can already find on the land to put to use. For example, we can get some equisetum from near the creeks and use it to make a reed bed for processing our grey water. There's also a herb which seems to be edible, which it seems the previous groundskeeper was using as ground cover near a banana tree. So we'll see if we can use that. Also some verdolaga/purslane which might be useful and tasty. Greetings from Mexico and thanks for your work. Showing your videos to my companions has planted some seeds in their minds, seeing what is possible.
@estebancorral5151
@estebancorral5151 Жыл бұрын
You should consider the proliferation of huizache and mesquite because they are nitrogen fixers and are ubiquitous in Mexico. You are under the misconception that you do not have a water problem. Yes, you do. There two terms in Jalisco, estiaje and sequía. You do not use your spring for estiaje but only for sequía. You must rely on mulch and rain harvesting techniques. Here is a gastronomic 2020:13 suggestion: Beef mole, a side of verdolagas, 20:13 20:13blanched cactus garnished with freshly chopped coriander. There are many Tequileras inJalisco that need removal of the bagazo and vinaza. This perfect good mulch for you.
@TheParadiseParadox
@TheParadiseParadox Жыл бұрын
@@estebancorral5151 thank you kindly. You are right, we do have water problems. The verdolaga is growing well, though slowly. There are a lot of oak leaves on the ground that we use for mulch, so that's something. We're not too close to Tequila but maybe there are some tequileras around. It's cool to get something which is rubbish for someone else, and turn it into something useful. God bless
@Venkat-n5r
@Venkat-n5r 2 ай бұрын
Very well put through and information. Keep it up.
@mojavebohemian814
@mojavebohemian814 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mr. Lawton. Keep 'em coming as we are all thirsty for the GTD project info and videos. (North east Arizona, USA)
@victorjre
@victorjre 2 жыл бұрын
For saline and saline-sodic soils I've discovered a wonder. Well, more like the wonder discovered me: Batis Maritima. It grows naturally in that kind of soils in the Caribbean. I used to fight it until I discovered regenerative agriculture and now is my best ally.
@traildude7538
@traildude7538 Ай бұрын
I helped a cousin who lived in eastern Washington state turn his yard into a lawn. It started as hard-pan, and they'd tried putting mulch on it but that had only a negligible result over three years. What I did was till up the ground ten inches deep, then put six inches of mulch on top, then tilled sixteen inches deep, which mixed the mulch into the top layer of soil. What this did was give enough organic matter that the ground absorbed moderately quickly where before water had pooled and mostly evaporated despite the mulch on top. After one good rain where the neighbors' yard had standing water that mostly evaporated, my cousin's yard absorbed most of the rain. With another heavy rain forecast in a few days I implemented my next step: they had a rabbit which of course produced copious amounts of droppings that were high in nutrient content, so while the soil was damp we spread rabbit droppings in a layer about 3/4" deep and tilled that into the top eight inches. Since the ground was highly alkaline, and since coffee grounds could be had for free by the five-gallon bucket load, we mixed another 3/4" worth of coffee grounds with the rabbit droppings before tilling. After the next rain we bought enough "planting mulch" mix to cover the ground an inch deep; we mixed grass seed and some vetch seed into the planting mulch thoroughly and spread the result out evenly then tamped the surface down so it was smooth and level. He had to water it a few times through the summer but that was the last time; with the organic content in the upper layer of soil and a light addition of light mulch each spring that yard turned lawn became the envy of the neighborhood; it turns brown in mid-summer but becomes green again after the first rain (which sometimes comes in August!). The only things he added after the second year were corn gluten meal granules and coffee grounds. That lawn was a superb selling point when they got a new house! Anyway, I related this to point out that sometimes mulch on the surface isn't enough and tilling in a first batch of mulch to give soil fiber and the ability to actually absorb water can get things started. It isn't even necessary to till the entire area if you're just trying to green it (as opposed to making a lawn); in Eastern Oregon with the same sort of alkaline soil it's been show that tilling some strips or circles covering only a fifth of the area and tilling in compost/mulch is enough to jump-start things; once there is green plant cover on those portions the earthworms will slowly but steadily extend the borders, turning more and more ground into actual soil -- it's just necessary to keep the entire area well-covered in mulch (including coffee grounds; in small amounts the earthworms love them).
@norxgirl1
@norxgirl1 2 жыл бұрын
Scrambling to deep mulch trees here in 6b7a drought......did it when first planted them several years ago, dug swales and berms since we are on a 10% grade. About halfway done.... Always in the lookout for local tree companies needing to dump chip....very blessed....noticed early on the volunteer trees that grew out of first chip pile looked better than any other trees.....over 200 planted trees here....staying busy.....then I go back and water until it runs off....
@estebancorral5151
@estebancorral5151 Жыл бұрын
Inoculate your wood chips with wine cap mushroom spawn to increase the trees nutrient uptake.
@louisputallaz7556
@louisputallaz7556 Жыл бұрын
Tnx Geoff, chop, drop and mulch, Ape take note, do this instead of burning, less carbon in the air a good thing.
@JeremyThomas_Environmentarian
@JeremyThomas_Environmentarian 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Geoff for the tour. It's amazing to see the changes and progress and systems all working. Congratulations and I will continue to use your ideas, knowledge you provide free, and systems, in my own half acre in rural NSW, Australia.
@hermes3883
@hermes3883 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Geoff!! Please do more dryland videos. Love to see them and learn
@markedwards4762
@markedwards4762 3 ай бұрын
Thx Jake, a voice of balance and reason, respect 😊
@shovelspade480
@shovelspade480 2 жыл бұрын
Great to see you Geoff, your looking well which is a beautiful reflection of the environments your help create. Take care
@DJG19870
@DJG19870 7 ай бұрын
Great to see. It is amazing to see all that green. I totally believe overgrazing and free range livestock contributes majorly to desertification as natural regeneration is unable to occur when all the weeds and ground cover is eaten up.
@johnfitbyfaithnet
@johnfitbyfaithnet Жыл бұрын
Great information thank you for sharing this
@AmzBackyardOrchardandVineyard
@AmzBackyardOrchardandVineyard Жыл бұрын
Greetings from Arizona zone 9B, thanks for all of your tips and tricks, we definitely use them in our portrait and Vineyard and it works wonderfully! Cheers 🥂😎
@robertling9872
@robertling9872 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your method and videos.
@ren2ski
@ren2ski 2 жыл бұрын
The site is looking gorgeous, thank you for sharing.
@11219tt
@11219tt 2 жыл бұрын
Great series!
@felipevilches7128
@felipevilches7128 2 жыл бұрын
👏👏👏👏👏👏 Thank you Geoff!
@crazyforlazystopmotion3735
@crazyforlazystopmotion3735 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome garden! Thanks!
@SHANONisRegenerate
@SHANONisRegenerate 2 жыл бұрын
Great work team
@gratitude354
@gratitude354 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You Geoff, it's always a learning session whenever you drop such videos 🎉
@effieinglish
@effieinglish 2 жыл бұрын
I find this very exciting!
@mathieup.1786
@mathieup.1786 Жыл бұрын
Many many thanks from France
@benjaminklenner4310
@benjaminklenner4310 2 жыл бұрын
Great to see you talking about mulch! That Carpobrotus is great, I'm growing one in Perth called pigface, I think it's in South Africa too. Grows well in semi arid climates.
@davefigthe3rd
@davefigthe3rd 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful.
@gardeningforfunandlongevit6076
@gardeningforfunandlongevit6076 2 жыл бұрын
Love this!
@pinkelephants1421
@pinkelephants1421 2 жыл бұрын
As controversial as it would no doubt likely be, it would be absolutely fascinating to see the Nabatean water harvesting, storage and irrigation infrastructure features at Petra restored for the purposes of implementing a permaculture system to support further local Bedouin employment, [particularly women] and make tourism more sustainable in that part of Jordan. If nothing else, it would serve as a fascinating way to study how an ancient society functioned; archaeology in real time.
@yLeprechaun
@yLeprechaun 2 жыл бұрын
My God, can you imagine the beauty if that would happen?! I would love to see Petra just as is, it's on my bucket list. But wow, I can only imagine what it would be like after 10 years of Geoff's strategy.
@pinkelephants1421
@pinkelephants1421 2 жыл бұрын
@@yLeprechaun Exactly. Be a great way to turn what's all too often, archeology, from a dry dusty subject into a living breathing one.
@estebancorral5151
@estebancorral5151 Жыл бұрын
Why not the Nabatean system in Avdat?
@pinkelephants1421
@pinkelephants1421 Жыл бұрын
@@estebancorral5151 I'm not familiar with Advat.
@estebancorral5151
@estebancorral5151 Жыл бұрын
@@pinkelephants1421 Avdat is another Nabatean site. It was not as ornate as Petra, but the engineering was just as impressive. No two Nabatean sites were alike because they were designed to be site specific.
@braintnt
@braintnt 2 жыл бұрын
love this channel, I am going to use this method in dry California. Thank you
@estebancorral5151
@estebancorral5151 Жыл бұрын
Where in California?
@topkek_
@topkek_ 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome to get an update, one of the most interesting projects on youtube :) How are the neighbours faring that took up some of the permaculture concepts?
@tangobayus
@tangobayus 2 жыл бұрын
Dig a hole in the desert and you may find moist soil. If you mulch you will make the most of that moisture. First Americans in the Southwest have corn that can be planted a foot deep. Decades ago I used bags of grass clippings in Albuquerque, NM, to dramatically improve soil in a couple of years.
@MarkLaurenceDesign
@MarkLaurenceDesign 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting Geoff. Pretty sure the groundcover you are calling Caprobrotus is in fact Sesuvium portulacastrum, used a lot in the ME as an ornamental groundcover, as is Wedelia. A flower would soon tell which plant it is! Purple plant is a form of Ruellia, probably R. ciiosa. Very inspiring, I hope to initiate something in the UAE at some point.
@byrdhemenway369
@byrdhemenway369 2 жыл бұрын
I wish i was a billionair I would fund all ur projects and green the world U are a real hero ur team are all heros thank u for all ur info and works
@louisegogel7973
@louisegogel7973 2 жыл бұрын
You can, and may already be doing this, share and share and share these videos of Permaculture with everyone you know, on social media, as part of conversations …..
@bchukran
@bchukran Жыл бұрын
Hi Geoff! The purple flower is ruellia, AKA Mexican petunia. We grow it here in our desert New Mexico garden. 🙂
@gussampson5029
@gussampson5029 Жыл бұрын
Hi do you know the name of the first ground cover he said? It sounded like Carbirudus or something but I can't find anything like that on Google.
@bchukran
@bchukran Жыл бұрын
@@gussampson5029 LOL, I didn't get it, either. But it looks like something we have here called Ice Plant. It's a succulent, likes the hot weather with very little water. Closed captioning said "carborotus," which is not helpful, either. LOL.
@insAneTunA
@insAneTunA 2 жыл бұрын
The mulch is also very useful and important for organic growers in areas where there is plenty rain. Fungi will feed from the mulch, and provide plant available nutrients to the roots from the plants. Healthy plants will have a certain amount of sugar content that is high enough to protect them against insects. Insects are not capable of digesting those amounts of sugar content, that is why you will never see that healthy plants, living in a healthy soil with a high diversity of micro organisms, (fungi and bacteria) and enough bio mass from the right composition, getting attacked by insects. Fungi is for 70% the most important factor for a healthy plant growth. At least that is what I learned from watching this lecture, Why insects do not (and cannot) attack healthy plants | Dr. Thomas Dykstra | Regenerative Ag
@user-yk1cr6bh9o
@user-yk1cr6bh9o 2 жыл бұрын
This is a very interesting topic. If possible, please make videos with auto subtitles, then others will be able to watch videos in other languages.
@antoniodossantos5960
@antoniodossantos5960 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Geoff. Great Video. Wonderful information 🌎 The Planet deserves a lot more from us.
@aron8949
@aron8949 2 жыл бұрын
In my region, zone 7, high desert, Russian olive. Tree of heaven. Black locust, honey locust, Siberian elm, tamarix. Black pine.
@przybyla420
@przybyla420 Жыл бұрын
Don’t let the local eco fascists find out you’re planting the first three
@estebancorral5151
@estebancorral5151 Жыл бұрын
Bee hives!!!!!
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166 5 ай бұрын
@@przybyla420 can you define ecofascist for me? I consider myself an environmentalist and I think the current thinking on high-invasive-potential species is scuffed and needs a rework (i.e. I think they do need to be recognized as high invasive potential, but at the same time I think there needs to be more nuance than just "it's bad, don't plant it" - e.g. black locust is mostly easily eradicated in the same way as any other thorny tree, but honey locust is horrifyingly sharp and esse delendam).
@b_uppy
@b_uppy 2 жыл бұрын
For those that have yet to learn this, you keep mulch away from direct contact the the trunks of trees. This prevents gnawing animals from girdling and killing them.
@ronniemcmaster8657
@ronniemcmaster8657 2 жыл бұрын
It depends on where you are. Paul Gauchi has proven dropping more than 12 inches of wood chips over the ground and up against hist trees does no harm. Leaves and branches naturally pile against trees in the forest and the forest prevails.
@b_uppy
@b_uppy 2 жыл бұрын
@@ronniemcmaster8657 That's different than proof.
@ronniemcmaster8657
@ronniemcmaster8657 2 жыл бұрын
@@b_uppy How? He started it more than 40 years ago and has seen no issues. The whole contact with tree trunks thing is a myth. The only time it may be a problem is when it is above a graft and the grafted part sprouts roots, then the tree is no longer a dwarf, which is a good thing for me.
@b_uppy
@b_uppy 2 жыл бұрын
@@ronniemcmaster8657 Because it is anecdotal. There may be enough rodent control in his neighborhood that it isn't a problem. Some trees lack the ability to regrow...
@ronniemcmaster8657
@ronniemcmaster8657 2 жыл бұрын
@@b_uppy I think the problem you originally mention is an old wive's tale. I've yet to see trees having the problems you speak of. I would think it more wise to deal with the rodents, which are the problem. A few barn cats would resolve the issue.
@dorksplorer
@dorksplorer 2 жыл бұрын
Shade and mulch are crazy helpful in the southwest US also, especially at high elevation. The sun has just been painful lately. 🕊️
@binnyneiser1112
@binnyneiser1112 2 жыл бұрын
Wondering what trees to plant at high elevations in the southwest US that would grow fast, provide shade and survive with just a little help to get started on growing a food forest?
@kikikut22
@kikikut22 Жыл бұрын
thanks Geoff
@lp2155
@lp2155 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Picci25021973
@Picci25021973 2 жыл бұрын
A ton of precious informations in a single video. Thanks Geoff!
@stonemountaincreations3459
@stonemountaincreations3459 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@b_uppy
@b_uppy 2 жыл бұрын
Be neat if you were or Mark Shepard were go to a conventional California orchard that someone is wanting to rehab according to permaculture practices. Always hear Californians whining about water rights. I'm 💯% certain there is zero or poor ground covers being used in most instances. Also see zero rainwater harvesting employed. It would likely be initially impractical to remove large portions of the trees out of production, to plant different trees and shrubs to improve diversity that way. It would be interesting to see how much impact a permaculture approach can have in these chemical- and irrigation-dependent valleys.
@ronniemcmaster8657
@ronniemcmaster8657 2 жыл бұрын
Yup. I haven't driven past many orchards on the west coast where there's any ground cover, aside from some of them having grass that is manicured. I watched a church up the street from me do a replanting of Christmas trees. They only put down a thin layer of cow manure when they planted. Otherwise it is bare earth. Their trees appear to grow slowly and not be as "full" as they could be.
@b_uppy
@b_uppy 2 жыл бұрын
@@ronniemcmaster8657 I am wondering how it could be best improved seen many where it's bare ground in Cali. Sounds like terrible practices under the circumstances. Would love to know maintenance stats before and after.
@heritagefamilydental
@heritagefamilydental 2 жыл бұрын
I’m sure there are many reasons why commercial ag would not use mulch one of them may be it interferes with the harvesting equipment especially tree crops like almonds or, but the system is messed up for sure
@b_uppy
@b_uppy 2 жыл бұрын
@@heritagefamilydental Depends on the mulch, and the plant. Wonder what kind they would choose to rehab. Almonds and avocados are certainly a challenge.
@orangemoonglows2692
@orangemoonglows2692 2 жыл бұрын
rainwater harvesting? lol. where i am in southern california, there's no rain to harvest. we get around 8 in. of precipitation a year.
@hhwippedcream
@hhwippedcream 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You!
@hhwippedcream
@hhwippedcream 2 жыл бұрын
Relative humidity? - "the dew layer"?
@Michael_McMillan
@Michael_McMillan 2 жыл бұрын
I always look forward to your videos!
@Reyajh
@Reyajh 2 жыл бұрын
Simply amazing... Beautifully elegant!!
@drakthorzodin-son3643
@drakthorzodin-son3643 Жыл бұрын
I really like that theoretical idea of silvapasture/shadeing for ground crop growth. Out in colorado i am thinking of starting a 4 acres garden (walnut, almond,pecan,apple, pears, cherrys, peaches, plums orchard with bushes of blueberries, blackberries/elderberries etc between the trees and grapes on the fencelines) then growing a vertically to tree limbs if i can... squash pumpkin beans as a test. Maybe even throw some rows of strawberries etc in raised bed containers and then run chickens free range through there in the warm months to eat the beetles etc off. then winter crop throwing buckwheat down on the pasture to green manure the rest of the 60 acres while the 4 acres (leaves and branches) provide feed for me and the goats. Still gotta figure some stuff out and probably will try to figure a hay for the bulk of the land... but if i can get something to be efficient enough on 4 acres i may just creep that to the horse barn area, main barns and house area and slowly work the bulk of the pasture like that until my seasonal creek basin is just 3 acres of prime hayland quality pasture/hay. Might be a pipe dream in the short term but if i can get somethings to go my way...
@Cheriesgardenvegplot
@Cheriesgardenvegplot 2 жыл бұрын
Loving your videos Geoff. You talk such common sense.
@andiet8629
@andiet8629 2 жыл бұрын
i have a native carpobrotus (pigface, succulent) in SE Tassie that's doing a lot of work like this. And a native spinach Good to have you confirm :)
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166 8 ай бұрын
I have started talking about a difference between a desert and a dryland. A dryland is a place where rainfall is near-desert, but the status of vegetation is better. It seems like you have created a system where a desert is being converted to a dryland, with minimal inputs (mulch, water, bit of rotational energy to move the water, and obviously the work to earthmove to catch rain).
@allon33
@allon33 Жыл бұрын
So good.😳
@RegenerativeMojave
@RegenerativeMojave 2 жыл бұрын
Yaaasss, this means more greening the desert videos!!!
@sowingtreesinstorms
@sowingtreesinstorms 2 ай бұрын
The "little purple plant" looks like ruellia. I recognize it from where it grows in Kansas. I always thought it needed a lot of water though.
@YourFrienjamin
@YourFrienjamin Жыл бұрын
Another tip for revegetating land: To supplement bark-mulch or, replace it entirely with, grass clippings (from mowing) -- seed-heavy grass, that is. It will promote grass coverage 😁
@nekomancer9157
@nekomancer9157 Жыл бұрын
if you have a pummice like volcanic rock/ashstone you can use that as mulch because it will shade the soil keeping it cool and reducing evaporation, it will keep the wind from causing evaporation and the key factor of pummcie is that it doesnt transmit heat ie it insulates so also keeping the soil cool. this will allow you to plant pioneer species without any organic mulch available. if you cant get pummice get wide flat stones and lay them on the soil. they will also shade the soil but heat will eventually transmit through the stones as they heat up.
@arvinkim3037
@arvinkim3037 Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see an illustration of a tree planted in the cardboard box with mulch as Geoff explains at 2:53
@nadietta9812
@nadietta9812 2 жыл бұрын
The purple flower is called flor de san pedro in Spanish I think. They smell really nice at night right? They dye off in winter and come back in spring and summer in the mediterranean.
@LaJewel
@LaJewel Жыл бұрын
What about layers of rocks over the first mulches to keep them from blowing away? All of it in the pit surrounding the first trees. Or in the adjoining swales.
@ewanfuller5742
@ewanfuller5742 Жыл бұрын
What are good perennial ground covers for arid areas ? I'm trying to apply the principles in Spain and finding suitable perenial ground covers that can put up with 5 months of no rain and torrential rain is difficult
@bobbobson4607
@bobbobson4607 Жыл бұрын
Ruellia is the name of the plant with purple flowers. That stuff grows fast and can withstand heat and drought fairly well (I'm in Texas). Also, after they get a drink all the purple flowers open up and the bee's and humming birds love them. It can take over a space if not cultivated yearly, and its difficult to remove completely as it keeps coming back from the rhizomes that are left in the ground. I had to look up the name, we just call it "the bamboo looking stuff with the purple flowers."
@atruefreethinker1944
@atruefreethinker1944 Жыл бұрын
the purple flower plants... you don't know it... you apologized that you didn't know it. that maybe the only time I know of that you didn't know a plant variety. such a beautiful location. you did well Geoff.
@MarcosGO2002
@MarcosGO2002 5 ай бұрын
Hi George, in Argentina we have thornless prosopis trees...
@desertmas
@desertmas 10 ай бұрын
I would love to learn more about the stone wall swales. I am along the Gila River in Duncan, Arizona and I am in a flood zone that will flood every 10-15 years. I wonder if the stone walls would help hold the integrity of my swales during those dramatic events? Which side would you use stone walls for the swale?
@susanquinlan7426
@susanquinlan7426 2 жыл бұрын
How does the perennial ground cover help with the fertility of the tree? Exchanging nutrient? And the olives were better because of herbaceous ground cover? Not understanding.
@mechanics4all405
@mechanics4all405 2 жыл бұрын
as global warming is a hot topic atm,cant you get Australian government,to pay for you to regreen Northern Territories,making world changing difference to Australia,love your work and sharing and educating,real people who actualylisten
@louiseswart1315
@louiseswart1315 Жыл бұрын
Would it help establishing an initial hardy herbatious layer using a few goats, which grazes on these plants, to come "prune" the young trees and leave their droppings on the barren soil?
@matthiasbrunger1179
@matthiasbrunger1179 2 жыл бұрын
As you've touched on it several times - can you talk some more on plant succession, how you move through or plan succession cycles and how you plan the plant strata?
@livefromplanetearth
@livefromplanetearth 2 жыл бұрын
thanks! 🙏🏾
@ponderinglife7528
@ponderinglife7528 2 жыл бұрын
hi, super fun thank you! i cant wait to get started! i cant find the “car bor utes” plant online. i dont know how to spell it. can you help me? this vid helped me so much, my container trees are burning up here in texas.
@tiffanywilkerson5569
@tiffanywilkerson5569 2 жыл бұрын
Did anyone catch the name of the succulent ground covers? Cabarutus? Thanks Geoff, great video.. even after taking your class, these are still so helpful and exciting
@yeahnahsorry3433
@yeahnahsorry3433 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps Carpobrotus, aka pig face.
@creektopfarms5217
@creektopfarms5217 2 жыл бұрын
Ya I’m trying to figure this out also.
@Hohoz88
@Hohoz88 2 жыл бұрын
I believe he said Carpobrotus. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpobrotus
@tiffanywilkerson5569
@tiffanywilkerson5569 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hohoz88 thank you!
@mtnmanrab
@mtnmanrab Жыл бұрын
Problem is, what do you do when you mulch and the voles and moles move in?
@faouzimokhtar1059
@faouzimokhtar1059 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, thank you very mocht for this knowledge shared! I do have a question. Can we also add chicken or cattle manure to speed up the process of soilcreation? And if so, do we mix it with leaves and wood chips or do we cover the manure with them? Thanks again.
@louisegogel7973
@louisegogel7973 2 жыл бұрын
I believe you have to go carefully with fresh chicken manure because it’s so strong, but if mixed with enough mulch, it tones it down. Best to age it a bit before adding is what I’ve always heard. I believe cow manure is immediately useable. Anyone who has more experience than I do, please amend or add to what I have said here.
@bobbif100
@bobbif100 2 жыл бұрын
Chickens and ducks on your own land are great to add to the mix. Cows can work too if you have enough land. If you buy manure you have to be very careful. There are persistent herbicides, like grazon, that are used on some pastures that can kill your plants when you use manures from animals that ate the hay from those fields.
@forgetful3360
@forgetful3360 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. Compost both manures. Mix first with lots of dry herbaceous material. Keep moist. Never apply uncomposted manure because even if it is low in npk like cow manure, it carries risks that composting will eliminate. Straight chicken manure will burn whatever you are growing.
@louisegogel7973
@louisegogel7973 2 жыл бұрын
@@forgetful3360 Thank you for the clarification! I hadn’t been thinking of other possible issues that composting can eliminate.
@Kamaldhillon81
@Kamaldhillon81 Жыл бұрын
In sub tropic if we plant bamboo layer all over the periphery does that help with shade and fit in larger scheme of things?
@estebancorral5151
@estebancorral5151 Жыл бұрын
Yes!!!!!
@drumcrazy72
@drumcrazy72 2 жыл бұрын
Geoff what’s the name of the succulent ground cover you mentioned please? Carberutus? I’m not sure how to spell it. Thank you.
@cherylreid5768
@cherylreid5768 2 жыл бұрын
Carpobrotus
@MrSomethingdark
@MrSomethingdark Жыл бұрын
"The little purple flower is in among the carburettors, lovely flower." - excuse me what xD
@ashikalanser9033
@ashikalanser9033 2 жыл бұрын
I ❤️ mulch. Man I'm stoked for autumn in Germany. Gonna cut everything back and re use it in the yard instead of throwing it out like our neighbors
@catherinebrookebarnes4113
@catherinebrookebarnes4113 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. I'm in Germany too. Very sandy here. Have you got any proposals for pioneer plants here that I can use for chop and drop/mulch?
@estebancorral5151
@estebancorral5151 Жыл бұрын
@@catherinebrookebarnes4113 A very smart German scientist in the late eighteen hundreds started his work by colonizing lupins in sand. He did this to get away from the over opinionated University professors of his day. Unfortunately, until this day this the plague has not been quashed.
@edscukas9689
@edscukas9689 2 жыл бұрын
Geoff the issue I ran into I put about 6”of woodchips down then topped with 4-5” of compost planted as topped again with woodchips however when I dig my hand into the soil even after a hard rain it feels dry. Any ideas?
@estebancorral5151
@estebancorral5151 Жыл бұрын
It was clearly stated that mulch is only one of the dry land techniques. Do you have swales?
@guciochris5297
@guciochris5297 2 жыл бұрын
Great as always, Quick question- what are the permaculture solution to Potato Beetle problem ?? Is there anything reliable to repel or intoxicate the hungry monster?
@maskinmaskin1659
@maskinmaskin1659 Жыл бұрын
I read that pheasants eat these beetles.
@estebancorral5151
@estebancorral5151 Жыл бұрын
Guinea Fowl.
@georgecarlin2656
@georgecarlin2656 2 жыл бұрын
12:00 And what would be a "living mulch/ground cover" weed in temperate climates?
@rubygray7749
@rubygray7749 2 жыл бұрын
Annual clovers, vetch, fenugreek, comfrey, and fast growing acacias (wattles) to replace the leucaena. I'm in Tasmania (home of Bill Mollison), and I would live to see Geoff Lawton do more teaching on cold/temperate permaculture.
@anibrito4553
@anibrito4553 11 ай бұрын
I believe the purple flowers are Ruellia.
@undergroundandoffgridinari540
@undergroundandoffgridinari540 Жыл бұрын
What is your thought on using oleander mulch in the garden? Does it stay poisonous?
@estebancorral5151
@estebancorral5151 Жыл бұрын
It is poisonous if you eat it. All wood is fungal food. Fungi can digest same very nasty compounds and make them not just harmless but rather beneficial.
@wayneevans3342
@wayneevans3342 2 жыл бұрын
A realy great tutorial. Thank you. I have one question. I am in the very early stages of introducing a permaculture system to my small 2000m2 olive grove(31 mature trees)in Paxos, Greece. We are within zone 9b. Everyone in Greece is concerned with fire risk, with last year seeing 10's off thousands of hectares going up in flames taking livelihoods and homes with it. Is this deep mulching method going to put my home and twitchy neighbours at risk? I realise that without seeing it in the flesh I may be asking the impossible, but any advice is welcome.
@louisegogel7973
@louisegogel7973 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to hear from others with experience on this. My thought initially is that mulching cools the soil and helps retain moisture which over time can refresh the water table so the plants have something to drink all year. Fire breaks might be of value to build into the layout of the land, but really, when the land is moist from the water getting planted in the rains and not evaporating or running off immediately, you would have a far smaller fire hazard.
@snlplus6
@snlplus6 2 жыл бұрын
I would add that in previous videos Geoff has demonstrated the way they use & reuse water in this system. Maybe you could find tips to use from these?
@erfan4244
@erfan4244 2 жыл бұрын
I think if you plant support leguminous species densely, you not only put less flammable mulch but after a year or two not only you will have a lot of shade which will also reduce fire hazard via increasing moisture in soil and organic matter and in soil but you also bring your food forest system a step forward and produce all your high quality nitrogen on site. in my experience there are some good ground cover plants which you don't even need to sow their seed and some are actually edible like lambs quarter. I think they also contribute to the fungi in soil as they are mostly "woody plants". of course you can use other plants that you want some plants as Geoff mentioned have "gels" that reduce evaporation and are fire resistant. not only that but you can use fire resistant trees as well there is video in Geoff's channel about how to fire proof your land, other than that using swales,dams, ponds high in the property obviously increase moisture in soil and help mitigate any fire risk. I only have one eighth of an acre so i can't put many pond here in north west Iran near lake urmia and we have a temperate climate with hot Mediterranean summers -10 in winter +40 in summer with 12 to 22 inch's of rain I know it vary alot it's pretty wild after shrinkage of lake we get less buffer against climate change which is sad, we used to have much more snow and rain and much more acceptable temperature's back then it's mostly caused by ignorant human interventions and people drilling lots of wells to irrigate wheat,beet flood irrigate orchards...sigh I talked too much And went off topic sorry
@erfan4244
@erfan4244 2 жыл бұрын
also the chop n drop mulch you do will be be under shade and they're not gonna catch fire easily since they are green and if you put them in swales they'll be damp ,wet and decomposing so they'll be almost non flammable
@przybyla420
@przybyla420 Жыл бұрын
By implementing Geoff’s strategies you are helping to reduce overall fire risk by several different means. That said, there IS a greater chance of fire breaking out in a mulched permaculture site than on bare, scorched earth ground devoid of plants or any organic matter. It’s important to try to educate authorities and neighbors, as much as an uphill battle this can be. And to diligently design with the inevitable risk of fire in mind. The best way to prevent fire is to obsess over possible ignition sources and worst case scenarios, since the vast majority of wild fires are ignited by humans.
@mcmac1814
@mcmac1814 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, what do you think about planting eucalyptus in a food forest located in Mediterranean semi arid lands, and use it as mulch producer? Thank you
@Angelbach1995
@Angelbach1995 Жыл бұрын
I'm in zone 10, San Diego California. Considered Mediterranean... ish. Eucalyptus trees are very abundant here. Even inland where temperatures get to over 100 F, on a fairly regular basis, they do well once established. They were already on my property when I move here 45 years ago. There has been an bug infection on them for about 20 years, and they are getting stronger. The leaf drop is really great and the bark sheds nicely to make an excellent mulch. I just wait for the limbs fall off, for the most part.
@archibaldbean7491
@archibaldbean7491 Жыл бұрын
Mr. Geoff, how would you manage to repel mosquitos in a tropical permaculture setting?
@gavinmatthews5618
@gavinmatthews5618 Жыл бұрын
Hey, In one of your videos about support species you mentioned that acacia species won't handle pollarding, what are some species that will in temperate victoria?
@estebancorral5151
@estebancorral5151 Жыл бұрын
Gavin, do you ever wonder how rumors get started?
@gavinmatthews5618
@gavinmatthews5618 Жыл бұрын
@@estebancorral5151 what do you mean I am asking a question?
@MatthiasHautmann
@MatthiasHautmann 2 жыл бұрын
The purple plant at 17:50 min looks like Ruellia simplex.
@Ultimatefitness360
@Ultimatefitness360 2 жыл бұрын
What should be distance between fruit tree and support tree ??
@estebancorral5151
@estebancorral5151 Жыл бұрын
You did not fully understand. You can only plant the fruit species after the support species have been established. The spacing between the trees will depend on the specifies you want to plant.
@SuperVlerik
@SuperVlerik 2 жыл бұрын
That "purple flower": Ruellia. Not sure which species however. R.simplex? R. brittoniana? AKA (in English anyway) "Mexican Petunia". Here in Spain it seems a good candidate for chop and drop systems.
@estebancorral5151
@estebancorral5151 Жыл бұрын
Where in Spain are you?
@SuperVlerik
@SuperVlerik Жыл бұрын
@@estebancorral5151 Near Valencia
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