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How did Lewis & Clark know where to go?

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On May 14, 1804 The Corps of Discovery led by Captains Merriweather Lewis & William Clark began their journey across western North America, into completely unexplored and unmapped territory. At least that’s what is commonly thought. But was the west really unexplored?
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@GeographyGeek
@GeographyGeek Жыл бұрын
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@obaone
@obaone Жыл бұрын
Great video but sad to hear use the word Indian which is such a misnomer for the Native/First/Indigenous Peoples/American, maybe so a video on the word Indian
@goldenhippie6352
@goldenhippie6352 Жыл бұрын
They knew where to go because they followed the trade routes that were already here hundreds of years before they come with the rest of the land thieves. You all act as if this nation was nothing but forest and untouched wilderness yet my ancestors left evidence of their existence in every one of your fields and everywhere in between.
@PanikStudios
@PanikStudios Жыл бұрын
Those continental outlines of the maps are bloody accurate given the level of technology at time. Highly impressed by work the cartographers of the past.
@christopherellis2663
@christopherellis2663 Жыл бұрын
A team of astronomical calculators in Greenwich supplied the data for finding longitude by the Moon 🌙 and stars ☪️ using stopwatches and sextants. Latitude, by sextant, was less complicated, but still required data from Greenwich.
@calebmahoney2448
@calebmahoney2448 Жыл бұрын
Makes you wonder about some of the not so accurate maps. Were they screw ups? Or have the landmasses changed that drastically over time?
@qram281
@qram281 Жыл бұрын
@@calebmahoney2448 the people looked at as crazy will tell u its real...the ones in charge will tell u they are fake...crazy world
@calebmahoney2448
@calebmahoney2448 Жыл бұрын
@@qram281 yeah, it’s just interesting that we can find and prove such work it astonishes us, while at the same time finding things of similar time span that have the accuracy of a child. While mainly being done by seafaring people, so you wouldn’t assume their education levels would be much different.
@johnclements6614
@johnclements6614 Жыл бұрын
They needed accurate maps of the coast so that they would not run the ships aground. It was far faster to move around in a ship to survey the coast than to travel over land with the and then survey with the same tech.
@jwelchon2416
@jwelchon2416 Жыл бұрын
The Lewis and Clark expedition was a spectacular achievement when you consider they made it back alive. Especially when compared to the Burke expedition in Australia where everyone died in a land where there was plenty of water and thousands of people lived.
@fastbow9
@fastbow9 Жыл бұрын
Had it not been for their own hostility they would have had no troubles! People where kind and receptive!
@jimlambrick4642
@jimlambrick4642 Жыл бұрын
Long, long before L&C, French-Canadian fur traders had pretty thoroughly made it to virtually every nook and cranny of the West. And they had been 'exploring' since the 1500's. They just didn't write books about it or draw maps. L&C frequently mention them as being their guides. They lived with and totally integrated with the Indian tribes and were the agents in selling their furs to big Montreal fur trading companies. The Metis people, still very common in Canada and parts of US are the result of intermarriage Indian/French. Many place names as far south as Texas have French names.
@Libre_penseur96
@Libre_penseur96 Жыл бұрын
And they dont even learn it in the schools in Quebec.
@onerider808
@onerider808 Жыл бұрын
Many places in Colorado have French names. While these are typically ascribed to French voyageurs, trappers, and traders after Louis & Clark’s expedition, many insist these areas were known to the French before then, and Ceran St Vrain was reported to have purchased old “secret” French maps from expeditions preceding L&C’s.
@bigcln87
@bigcln87 Жыл бұрын
Don’t forget the Spaniards. Read about Álvar Núñez Cabeza de Vaca, he walked from Florida to the gulf of California in 1528 so +250 years before L&C..
@mysoneffa2417
@mysoneffa2417 Жыл бұрын
There were Franciscan & Jesuit Monks & Priests with some of the French & Metis Coure de Bois. Russian Boats brought in Maronite Monks from the Pacific
@Newton-Reuther
@Newton-Reuther Жыл бұрын
The Corps of Discovery was fairly diverse including several French-speaking explorers and metis traders.
@rogerdudra178
@rogerdudra178 Жыл бұрын
Having been a student of this trip for 50 years at least, it is good to hear well researched information accurately related for a change.
@Sparty035
@Sparty035 Ай бұрын
What books would you recommend to learn more?
@rogerdudra178
@rogerdudra178 Ай бұрын
@@Sparty035 Greetings from the BIG SKY. I have a set of 8 volumes edited by Ruben Gold Thwaites that was published in 1904 that I got from Shorey's Book store in Seattle around 2010.
@Sparty035
@Sparty035 Ай бұрын
@@rogerdudra178 thank you 😎
@Gruuvin1
@Gruuvin1 Жыл бұрын
They knew what they were doing, when Aerosmith told them to, "Walk This Way!"
@GeographyGeek
@GeographyGeek Жыл бұрын
😂
@brookerangel-legris
@brookerangel-legris Жыл бұрын
Well Sir, you win the internet! 😂
@ssdj04
@ssdj04 Жыл бұрын
Excellent 🤘🤘🤘
@Eppu_Paranormaali
@Eppu_Paranormaali Жыл бұрын
And the empty space on his map must have encouraged them to dream on.
@pjenkins6304
@pjenkins6304 Жыл бұрын
If they were smart they wouldda told him to dream on....but the true patriots they were they got back in the saddle again and continued living on the edge
@chrisvickers7928
@chrisvickers7928 Жыл бұрын
Alexander Mackenzie of the Hudson's Bay Company had crossed North America overland in 1793 and had published a map of his travels in 1801 so they could have had access to his map but he travelled far to the north of their crossing, over 1000 km north. Other than showing it could be done I'm not sure how useful it was for them.
@gusprotheroe7045
@gusprotheroe7045 Жыл бұрын
He is buried in the church yard in the village where I went to school. I was very fascinated about his discoveries. It was much later I found out about Lewis and Clark.
@ClimbingEasy
@ClimbingEasy Жыл бұрын
Noted: I need to learn more about Alexander Mackenzie
@elainechubb971
@elainechubb971 Жыл бұрын
He also reached the "wrong" ocean for what Jefferson had in mind, which was a mainly water route to the Pacific, since Mackenzie ended up at the Arctic Ocean. Jefferson was thinking in terms of commerce (his term) and also wasn't looking to tangle with the British over a route within what's now Canada, where the Hudson's Bay Company and North West Company had already been trading for many years.
@elainechubb971
@elainechubb971 Жыл бұрын
Sorry--misreading my scribbled notes. After reaching the Arctic, he made a further exploration and got to the Pacific at what's now Bella Coola, British Columbia, still well north of where L&C traveled.
@davidford694
@davidford694 Жыл бұрын
Nor did I say it would be. I thought Thompson's work was, but I just found that he was later than them by a few years.
@davidford694
@davidford694 Жыл бұрын
So glad to see the record set straight at last. A little surprised to see how little mention David Thompson got. His exploration map of the Columbia was right on their route.
@GeographyGeek
@GeographyGeek Жыл бұрын
I’m thinking about making a video dedicated just to David Thompson. He should be better known for how much he mapped. I’m on the east coast of the US though. Maybe he’s better known in Canada and in the west.
@davidford694
@davidford694 Жыл бұрын
@@GeographyGeek I have a particular interest in him because he bought my 4 g grandmother's house from her after her husband died. The Bethune-Thompson house, now a historic site.
@GeographyGeek
@GeographyGeek Жыл бұрын
@@davidford694 oh wow that’s pretty cool
@davidford694
@davidford694 Жыл бұрын
@@GeographyGeek David Anderson is the curator. A mine of information about Thompson.
@jvalentine8376
@jvalentine8376 Жыл бұрын
What about explorer Amerigo Vespucci who mapped the US before Columbus ? The monks transposing Columbus's maps for the King of Spain new that the maps were not his and were made by Vespucci who mysteriously died ! So the monks named the new world " America " after Amerigo Vespucci . I doubt Columbus ever landed in America because some people say that non of the artifacts he presented to the King and Queen of Spain were American Indian of any kind . Like they never named the new world Columbia did they .
@arailway8809
@arailway8809 Жыл бұрын
Nice work, Geography Geek. While I love maps, the L&C expedition was a hard trek, pulling a boat up river by leg power, crossing the Rockies where one mountain rose behind another, getting the drizzling $h*ts, reaching the coast and spending the winter then turning around and making the whole trip back again. In the course of "history" we forget that L&C only made it once. A Delaware Indian named Black Beaver made it up the Missouri seven times.
@jovanweismiller7114
@jovanweismiller7114 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for mentioning Sir Alexander Mackenzie! "Alex MacKenzie / from Canada / by land / 22d July 1793", ten years before the Corps of Discovery. A proud Canuck!
@elainechubb971
@elainechubb971 Жыл бұрын
Not in any denigrating his accomplishment, but he was exploring in what's now Canada and reached the Arctic Ocean, not the Pacific--not what Jefferson had in mind, which was a crossing within the latitudes of the United States.
@stog9821
@stog9821 Жыл бұрын
@@elainechubb971 He eventually reached the Pacific at what is now Bella Coola BC on his second expedition. Sorry Jovan, but he was a Scot and probably did not think of himself as a Canadian.
@jovanweismiller7114
@jovanweismiller7114 Жыл бұрын
@@stog9821 Thank you. He reached the Arctic in 1789. In 1792 he got to the Pacific in what is now BC. Oh, and I'm sure he didn't think of himself as 'Canadian'. In those days the only 'Canadiens' (and 'Canadiennes'!) were the French. But Canada sure as hell claims him!
@rimckd825
@rimckd825 Жыл бұрын
Do you have a Canadian flag attached outside your car as you drive, too? lol
@elainechubb971
@elainechubb971 Жыл бұрын
@@stog9821 You are right. I did a quick bit of online research and it was not thorough enough. His expeditions were a great accomplishment. I think the main usefulness to the L&C expedition was to prove it was possible to cross the continent on a voyage/journey of scientific discovery--Jefferson, wanting to establish a route for commerce, authorized L&C to explore within the latitudes of the then United States, not ranging northward into territory to which Britain (Canada) could lay claim because of he activities of the Hudson's Bay Company and the North West Company.
@crusherbmx
@crusherbmx Жыл бұрын
This was great! Peter Fidler and David Thompson could be considered the Canadian/British version of Lewis and Clark. Famous, but not even close to as famous as Lewis and Clark. They have a lot of things named after them, including two streets in my neighbourhood. I'm related to Perter Fidler, actually...well, being a map maker, he got around, A LOT of people on the Canadian Prairies are related to him...
@mayb3xx
@mayb3xx Жыл бұрын
Excellent, informative video- thank you. I’m glad it gives credit to the American Indians and their contributions. Of note, only Lewis was a captain in the eyes of the army. Clark was commissioned for the expedition as a first lieutenant, despite Lewis’ request he be made a captain and co-leader. Lewis kept that information from the expedition members, and they lead the expedition as equals. I mention that in no way to nitpick the content in your video. It’s just interesting that they’re always referred to as equals- and should be- but at the time the government only had one leader in mind.
@rimckd825
@rimckd825 Жыл бұрын
As usual.... the stinking effing government really IS composed of AHs.
@johnking6252
@johnking6252 Жыл бұрын
Magnificent journey of information. The stories of our ancestors are best not forgotten. Thanks.
@BigboiiTone
@BigboiiTone Жыл бұрын
Wow aerosmith has been on tour forever but I didn't think for THAT long :pp
@double_0_delta158
@double_0_delta158 Жыл бұрын
Aerosmith my dude... Excellent! 🎸
@TM-yn4iu
@TM-yn4iu Жыл бұрын
I've read much on the Lewis and Clark journey and accomplishments. Your video and references that support it, provide so many more facts that are not so much exposure - rather an understanding of reality. Much appreciated.
@philpaine3068
@philpaine3068 Жыл бұрын
I've just watched this video, sitting comfortably at home on the couch with a cup of coffee. To either side of me are my two cats, Thompson & Mackenzie. And yes, they are named after David Thompson and Alexander Mackenzie. The weird thing is that, while they were named when they were kittens of the same litter, they grew up to have distinctive personalities that very closely match each of their namesakes. I would be delighted to see your planned video on David Thompson, and I would offer a tidbit that biographers have generally missed. Thompson had great facility with First Nations languages, and he kept detailed notes of every language he encountered. From these notes, he was able to construct what he judged to be the relationships between these languages, which belonged to the same family, how close or far they were to each other. And his judgment was pretty much correct. His biographers simply mention this as a detail, without realizing it's significance. Thompson was, all on his own, independently applying the techniques of Linguistic Typology that DID NOT YET EXIST in the world of linguistics. He was doing this before Adelung, Bopp, Humboldt, etc. laid the groundwork for this science, and a hundred years before von der Gabelentz's "Sprachwissenschaft", he was doing typology on that level. As a cartographer and explorer, Thompson was no doubt one of the greatest. He started as an impoverished charity-school urchin, was in Canada by the age of 14, working as an indentured servant of the Hudson's Bay Company. After a lifetime of spectacular accomplishments, he died in poverty near Montreal. His Métis wife, Charlotte, shared many of his adventures, and they remained a faithful couple for 58 years. When Thompson died, she was forced to sell his precious surveying equipment to pay off debts, but she expired within months of her beloved. Thompson was known to the First Nations as "The Stargazer".
@Dwightstjohn-fo8ki
@Dwightstjohn-fo8ki Жыл бұрын
I understood they had many children. I wonder what their line is up to today in Canada??
@Dwightstjohn-fo8ki
@Dwightstjohn-fo8ki Жыл бұрын
I live walking distance to one of Thompsons' camp landing near the headwaters of the Columbia in BC. Near Wilmer, BC a rusted long gun has been found from the expedition.
@philpaine3068
@philpaine3068 Жыл бұрын
@@Dwightstjohn-fo8ki Would be difficult to trace. Children died of disease or accidents with frightening regularity at that time, records are poor everywhere west of Quebec, and Thompson is a ridiculously common surname in Canada. Even more so with Mackenzie. Trying to follow Mackenzies in Canadian records is a nightmare, as I discovered when I once tried to unearth traces of a prospector named "Mac Mackenzie" (in a place where first names where made up on the spot and "Mac" would just be used as a first name by anyone whose last name was Mackenzie. Macdonalds and McKays are even worse.
@philpaine3068
@philpaine3068 Жыл бұрын
@@Dwightstjohn-fo8ki You live in one of the most beautiful places on Earth. I've hiked around there.
@davidford694
@davidford694 Жыл бұрын
Thompson was not always poverty stricken in later life. When my 4 g grandfather John Bethune died he bought his 3000 acre estate in Williamstown Ontario. The house is now a historic site.
@KevinOutdoors
@KevinOutdoors Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Glad to see mention of Alexander McKenzie and the greatest explorer of North America, David Thompson. Too often their achievements are lost in telling the tale of Lewis and Clark. McKenzie's travels were one of the factors that inspired Jefferson to send Lewis and Clark west, he felt the U.S. was behind in exploring the west.
@davidford694
@davidford694 Жыл бұрын
Quite so. Also remember that Lewis and Clarke had a military expedition. Any misbehavior led to court marshal. MacKenzie had only the power of leadership. My 3 g grandfather Henry's first cousin.
@Ged629
@Ged629 Жыл бұрын
GOOD TO SEE YOUR MENTIONING OF David Thompson!
@KevinOutdoors
@KevinOutdoors Жыл бұрын
​@@davidford694 Very cool.
@stephanebeauregard4083
@stephanebeauregard4083 Жыл бұрын
McKensie and Thompson were hardly the greatest explorers of North American. They simply carried on from areas that had been well-known to the French for many, many decades.
@robertbrown5319
@robertbrown5319 Жыл бұрын
This was a US government sponsored expedition. They had plenty of resources to plan and gather intelligence prior to the trip. They could easily access local guides along the way to help provide direction through the terrain.
@timothys.ritter3378
@timothys.ritter3378 Жыл бұрын
Well done. Thanks for setting the record straight and giving credit where it's due. History has a tendency to get painted with a broad brush.
@coldlakealta4043
@coldlakealta4043 Жыл бұрын
history all too often becomes myth
@gprang
@gprang Жыл бұрын
There is nothing new here. Literally nothing, if you are past jr high.
@kickapootrackers7255
@kickapootrackers7255 Жыл бұрын
Appreciate your work, well done.
@GeographyGeek
@GeographyGeek Жыл бұрын
Many thanks!
@hdufort
@hdufort Жыл бұрын
They had a French Canadian guide, who had extensive knowledge of the west, including knowledge of the tribes and language families. It's really strange that you have ignored this in your video. Look up Toussaint Charbonneau.
@stog9821
@stog9821 Жыл бұрын
Charbonneau was Sacawagea’s husband, and while he was hired as a guide and for his knowledge of Indian languages, it is pretty clear from Lewis & Clark’s journals that Sacawagea was ultimately better regarded than Charbonneau. I think you’re actually thinking of George Drouillaird, who was a guide, hunter and significant member of the exploration party. L&C often spelt his name as Drewer.
@gavinrogers5246
@gavinrogers5246 Жыл бұрын
You seem to be missing the Miera de Pacheco maps (which one of the French mapmakers seems to have cribbed from) or delved into the amount of experience the French had in the Great Plains to include the 1751 trading expedition from St. Louis to Santa Fe.
@eprofessio
@eprofessio Жыл бұрын
The oldest surviving capital in the United States is in my home state. Santa Fe, New Mexico along with California had been explored and mapped by Spaniards in the 1500’s.
@benmcreynolds8581
@benmcreynolds8581 Жыл бұрын
I live in NW Oregon and I have traveled along the historical wagon trail over the cascade Santiam pass. Camped in Astoria where Lewis and Clark set up by the coast. Which means they included having to pass over the coastal range as well. I just can't imagine what it must have been like to travel all that distance in the era and having to find how to make it across the Rockies/Grand canyon regions of the trip.
@elainechubb971
@elainechubb971 Жыл бұрын
Actually, since they used the Columbia River to make a basically sea-level voyage from the western edge of the Rocky Mountains to the coast, they didn't have to pass over the Coast Range--they skirted it. They did make their winter "camp" (a small wood-built fort-type structure) up a bit into the mountains from Astoria, thinking this would provide better protection and sustenance from the animals they could hunt, but they weren't forced to journey over the range to actually get to the Pacific. They were supposed to find a mainly sea-level route across North America, sing the Missouri River system and the unexplored (by the United States) great river of he West, and that they did.
@stephaniegrable2612
@stephaniegrable2612 Жыл бұрын
@@elainechubb971 thank you for clearing that up! I have always wondered exactly how they make the trek over the Rockies
@elainechubb971
@elainechubb971 Жыл бұрын
@@stephaniegrable2612 Thanks. They did have to cross the Rockies, but were able to use a pass following a trail already established by native peoples. Once they got to the Columbia, they used canoes for the rest of the journey. I think they had to portage around falls more than once. But at least they didn't have to find a pass across the Cascades or cross the Coast Range.
@tenn_ore
@tenn_ore Жыл бұрын
Yes, indeed, they had to portage Celilo Falls where The Dalles is now plus rapids like where Cascade Locks is. From there to the coast was easy. The OT emigrants had wagons so they couldn’t just float down the river, they had to take a huge chance on the river, or go over the slopes around Mt. Hood once they were past the Rockies, which they crossed using the South Pass, which was an over land route far away from the Missouri.
@julianaandersson8703
@julianaandersson8703 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed your video tho... you did a good job of balance and illustrating that Indians had a lot more navigational information than Europeans ...
@Zebred2001
@Zebred2001 Жыл бұрын
Not forgetting Henry Kelsey who was the first known European to see the northern North American plains (Saskatchewan) in1690!
@AmazingPhilippines1
@AmazingPhilippines1 Жыл бұрын
Love maps and history so thanks for both!
@DMeyer1
@DMeyer1 Жыл бұрын
"Was the West really unexplored?" My short answer: no My long answer: read a book, people
@RedTape812
@RedTape812 Жыл бұрын
Undaunted Courage. Thank you.
@josephwatson1931
@josephwatson1931 Жыл бұрын
This reminds me of a Book called "The White Indian Boy" which tells the story of a Taylorsville Utah boy who for about two years lived with a tribe of the Shoshone Nation. One of the older Native Americans in the tribe has met the Lewis and Clark expedition.
@gregkosinski2303
@gregkosinski2303 Жыл бұрын
Wow. I can’t even imagine the horrors
@hunterhill4786
@hunterhill4786 Жыл бұрын
This was very well done. Keep it up!
@GeographyGeek
@GeographyGeek Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I’ll do my best!
@tylerrigdon6795
@tylerrigdon6795 Жыл бұрын
This should have way more views Thanks for the video man
@GeographyGeek
@GeographyGeek Жыл бұрын
I appreciate it! You've actually found this video before I posted it lol. I accidentally added it to a playlist.
@felixtheswiss
@felixtheswiss Жыл бұрын
Not much known in the US that Jefferson got the idea of such expedition from Alexander von Humboldt expedition to South America. Jefferson and Humboldt were writing letters for a long time.
@Johnsonman47373
@Johnsonman47373 Жыл бұрын
We missed you last year
@marshja56
@marshja56 Жыл бұрын
Arrowsmith map: "Walk this way!"
@johntrojan9653
@johntrojan9653 Жыл бұрын
"Talk this way!" - Sitting Bull 😅
@donny_doyle
@donny_doyle Жыл бұрын
Well done
@jlvrmr
@jlvrmr Жыл бұрын
Came to the comments for this!
@johntrojan9653
@johntrojan9653 Жыл бұрын
@@jlvrmr 💪 💪 🤜🤛 👌
@stevef4010
@stevef4010 Жыл бұрын
Has me rethinking titles like "Back in the saddle", "draw the line", SOS, "living on the edge "
@ecoshah
@ecoshah Жыл бұрын
History is written by the Victors (Napoleon). The French arrived and settle Quebec 100 years before the Mayflower. They traversed the waterways., Blocked by Niagara, Jacque Cartier took the Ottawa River, Crossed the Mattawa river into Lake Nipissing, down the French River into Lake Huron. Settle Fort Detroit. 1550. Others fund routes to Chicago and crossed over to the Mississippi which joined them to New Orleans/ St Louis and claimed it all for France. by 1650. They continued along the rivers setting trading post and Catholic Missionaries throughout the west. The native tribes of the west first met white Frenchmen and would have a PARLEY. French word for talk. The french where very independent, and being thousands of miles from the KING. dispersed and created small independent communities through the land. To this day America has far more towns and cities with french names then Spanish. Detroit, Marquette, Chicago, St Paul and more where started in the 16 hundreds. Lewis and Clark where escorted by French Officers and Men as well as Native Guides, who knew where to go, how to get there, This version of history is not as Romantic and Heroic, but then History is written by the victors. I like my history books old,before professors can re-write them to be more politically correct.
@stephanebeauregard4083
@stephanebeauregard4083 Жыл бұрын
Exactement!
@AndrewBlacker-wr2ve
@AndrewBlacker-wr2ve Жыл бұрын
Good vid! Superb research. SUBSCRIBED.
@GeographyGeek
@GeographyGeek Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@I_am_Diogenes
@I_am_Diogenes Жыл бұрын
Good information . The journal of the Corps stated the purpose of the expedition was to inventory the contents of the new Louisiana Purchase not exploration of the unknown .
@TheFuelInjected
@TheFuelInjected Жыл бұрын
Did not expect to see the Peter Fiddler statue from my hometown of Elk Point in this video!
@brianmorger2174
@brianmorger2174 Жыл бұрын
It's interesting to note that none of the early maps depicted the most defining feature of the upper Missouri River; the Great Falls- a series of impassable cascades in North Central Montana. The knowledge of this was carried by Natives but somehow never got put on a map. If it had ,the Expedition would have saved about 10 days travel time in getting to The Rockies before the snow.
@bigred6755
@bigred6755 Жыл бұрын
Another wonderful video! Keep up the great content!!!
@GeographyGeek
@GeographyGeek Жыл бұрын
I appreciate it! I’ll do my best!
@carlmoeller56
@carlmoeller56 Жыл бұрын
Please read Undaunted Courage by Stephen E. Ambrose if you haven't. Basically, Lewis and Clark's mission was to find a Northwest Passage to the Pacific Ocean, to record their path and document and send back examples of flora and fauna of what they found in the new purchased Louisiana Territory.
@Chris-ut6eq
@Chris-ut6eq Жыл бұрын
thank you for posting this!
@yesid17
@yesid17 Жыл бұрын
great video as always! keep it up!
@GeographyGeek
@GeographyGeek Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@emily-kk2vs
@emily-kk2vs 11 ай бұрын
its so cool seeing the topic of an essay i wrote in a youtube video, like!!! i know that!!! i saw that arrowsmith map!!!
@sequoiasemperviren3163
@sequoiasemperviren3163 Жыл бұрын
They did not know where to go. They followed the largest river, they named the Jefferson at Three Forks. That led them to the Lemhi Pass. When they reached the Salmon River they realized they could not put canoes into the river due to the rapids. So they had a guide take them up over Lost Man Pass in to the Lolo River drainage, then over Lolo Pass into the Clearwater River where they built their birch bark canoes and met up with the Snake River where Clarkson Washington and Lewiston Idaho are today. It took them 51 days. Upon return the Nez Perz guided them over the short route what is known today as Lewis and Clark Pass. It took a whole 4 days.
@robertcarter8600
@robertcarter8600 Жыл бұрын
A concise yet great video! Always a pleasure to learn FACTS instead of generalities and "opinions". Thanks a lot.
@johnmcnulty4425
@johnmcnulty4425 Жыл бұрын
LCNHT bicentennial reenactor here. Even our own Captain Clark said that we traveled through someone else's back yard. Clark's original map had estimates of Indian populations but the information was later removed by the government to make it look like no one was there.
@williampotter2098
@williampotter2098 Жыл бұрын
They ask around in St. Louis and were told to just follow the big "W" on the compass. Worked too.
@bhannon039
@bhannon039 Жыл бұрын
Once they got to Kansas City there was a whole lot of going N.
@domino20
@domino20 Жыл бұрын
I read somewhere that when Lewis & Clark would stop for the night they would take a big block of butter and pour hot rum on it. It does sound like it would make the evenings by the campfire more pleasant but you might question the accuracy of their journals.
@petermusser5457
@petermusser5457 7 ай бұрын
and also correct to say Lewis & Clarke, both army engineers, needed the assistance by Sacajawea to see where the sun was going down
@petermusser5457
@petermusser5457 7 ай бұрын
incorrect, that is
@gerardcoyle2587
@gerardcoyle2587 Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@GeographyGeek
@GeographyGeek Жыл бұрын
Oh thank you!!
@Gorboduc
@Gorboduc Жыл бұрын
Never knew Aerosmith played such a large role in the building of America.
@jamesbishir2456
@jamesbishir2456 Жыл бұрын
His map said “Walk this way” 😂
@robrussell5329
@robrussell5329 Жыл бұрын
Lewis and Clark knew about the Northwest Pacific coast, including the Columbia River, coming out of the mountains, thanks to British journals. They also knew the lower Missouri river area up to Mandan. What they didn't know was the "in-between." They knew there was a mountain range, but they didn't know the breadth of it (hundreds of miles wide.) This was their important discovery - that there would be no water route to the Pacific.
@stephanebeauregard4083
@stephanebeauregard4083 Жыл бұрын
The French knew about the "in-between" many decades before the L&C expedition.
@rhodrage
@rhodrage Жыл бұрын
Everytime you said Aaron Smith I could only hear Aerosmith.
@TobaccoRowe1960
@TobaccoRowe1960 Жыл бұрын
I you were a Keetoowah you need no map. Follow the Savanna to Quala, Then take the Hegehogee to the Mississippi, then down to the White River where you pick up the Arkansas River to Monarch Pass and then there are various routs to the west cost. Keetoowah showed Pale Face this trail. It is called The Holy Faith Trail. But you would know it by it's Spanish name. The Santa Fe Trail. How do I know this, I was taught this by my family at a Cherokee Pow Wow at Norfork on the White River.
@izzywatashi371
@izzywatashi371 Жыл бұрын
It appears they renamed many of the named rivers as they went along.
@Armandoch54
@Armandoch54 Жыл бұрын
Wish there had been mention of Moncacht Ape, who had journeyed from Louisiana to New England then back, and then to the Northwest coast, back in the 18th century, and had told his story to some Frenchman who in turn made some maps.
@GeographyGeek
@GeographyGeek Жыл бұрын
Lewis & Clark did have a copy of his account with them and apparently used the accompanying map to locate a tribe but his journey is unlikely to be true but instead a combination of different explorer’s accounts. He failed to mention some major waterways as well as Lewis Clark’s largest obstacle, the Rocky Mountains even though he would have crossed them twice. In fact, his alleged account may have caused Lewis & Clark to falsely believe they could reach the Pacific with an easy walk from one navigable river to the next which led to the ocean. Edit: Spelling
@johnnydepth2132
@johnnydepth2132 Жыл бұрын
there is a stone map in egypt that was produced about 4,000 yrs. ago it is the brown cow milking scene in the tomb of Montuhotep ll and it is published in a book "the treasures of the Pharoahs" by Delia Pemberton. it is a map of north america in extreme detail.
@michellefoulkes3766
@michellefoulkes3766 Жыл бұрын
Southern Illinois is known as Little Egypt because of all the ancient Egyptian artifacts that they find there.
@samanthasebastian5450
@samanthasebastian5450 Жыл бұрын
Glad you did this oneeee I’ve been wanting to know more about them !!! 😂
@harrylime8077
@harrylime8077 Жыл бұрын
The 'Hudson Bay Company' and the 'Northwest Company' had trappers (vgers) all over the western US and Canada, long before Lewis and Clark. Additionally, the indigenous people explored the land long before Europeans.
@heronimousbrapson863
@heronimousbrapson863 Жыл бұрын
Indeed, European explorers received assistance from native peoples; Simon Fraser on his way to the Pacific was able to negotiate the treacherous canyon of the river which now bears his name by following trails constructed by the locals.
@lindahartman4543
@lindahartman4543 Жыл бұрын
For the closed caption transcriber: The mapmaker is Arrowsmith not Aerosmith (rock band). 😂
@t.anthony3940
@t.anthony3940 Жыл бұрын
Good bit of information, thanks for sharing!!
@spockspock
@spockspock Жыл бұрын
Thomas Jefferson had a room in the White House filled with mammoth fossils and such, people were worried about running into giant cyclops.
@CreachterZ
@CreachterZ Жыл бұрын
I didn't realize that Aeorosmith was so prolific in map making.
@mochiebellina8190
@mochiebellina8190 Жыл бұрын
They were looking for dudes that looked like ladies.
@zackakai5173
@zackakai5173 Жыл бұрын
Steve Tyler REALLY got around back in the day
@rd8370
@rd8370 Жыл бұрын
Walk this way according to the map.
@Eppu_Paranormaali
@Eppu_Paranormaali Жыл бұрын
Of course, extraordinarily pedantic. Didn't want to miss a thing.
@alst4817
@alst4817 Жыл бұрын
Oh Arrowsmith! I thought you kept saying Aerosmith! Rock on!
@jeremywales8
@jeremywales8 Жыл бұрын
Enlightening, thank you. 🤔🥰❤️‍🔥🤙🏻✨
@GeographyGeek
@GeographyGeek Жыл бұрын
No problem! Thanks for watching!
@Trevlead
@Trevlead Жыл бұрын
Information most Canadians know. Listen to Stan Roger’s ‘Northwest Passage’
@michaelbagley9116
@michaelbagley9116 Жыл бұрын
Everybody stands on the shoulders of those who came before them. It still does not demean that the gathering of information and publishing it for the people's influenced by them.
@stephanebeauregard4083
@stephanebeauregard4083 Жыл бұрын
Especially the French explorers and "courreurs des bois" for most of North America.
@reddeercanoe
@reddeercanoe Жыл бұрын
In those days British North America and the USA were not friends, so it’s interesting that Americans were able to get information from the Hudson Bay Company and the North West Company out Montreal. As many will already know Alexander Mac Kenzie was the first to across the continent two decades before Lewis and Clarke, but what you may not know is he was born in what is now the USA and was the son of a loyalist who fought for his King against the Americans. Many of Canadians greatest explorers and fur traders were also loyalists and to this day one in five Canadians are descended from loyalists.
@davidford694
@davidford694 Жыл бұрын
And the US border should rightfully run south of the Columbia. My several greats uncle John MacLauglin was dismayed! It made no sense. Fortunately he had dispatched his subordinate James Douglas to set up a new headquarters at Fort Victoria on Vancouver Island, now Victoria BC, where I live.
@stephanebeauregard4083
@stephanebeauregard4083 Жыл бұрын
"As many will already know Alexander Mac Kenzie was the first to across the continent two decades before Lewis and Clarke". Technically true, if you are referring to the continental divide. However, French explorers had made it all the way to the foothills of Rockies many decades earlier.
@Dan-qt7kq
@Dan-qt7kq Жыл бұрын
A part you left out, Philip Turnor was instrumental in Lewis and Clark and his maps were first of the Hudson Bay Area and first surveyor hired by Hudson Bay in late 1780’s.
@kentchamberlain5720
@kentchamberlain5720 Жыл бұрын
Check out a dude named Moncacht Ape. He was a Native from the South who travelled everywhere between the Atlantic and (most likely) the Pacific and related the story of his journeys to the French, which is how we know about it. A 17th century American ibn Battuta. Ancient Americas has a great video about him.
@stevef4010
@stevef4010 Жыл бұрын
So that is how Aerosmith became an American Idol.
@KreatorStudios
@KreatorStudios Жыл бұрын
I believer it was the famous Edward's and Hunt that made the journey and discovered most of the west. This was painstakingly documented in the movie Almost Heros.
@oddballsok
@oddballsok Жыл бұрын
5:10 the black holes..overlapping: DEFINITELY a bullet that struck the heart of the folded card bearer...
@cathjj840
@cathjj840 Жыл бұрын
Early Rohrschach test.
@Quilustrucu
@Quilustrucu Жыл бұрын
Lewis and Clark may have had all the maps they wished, they would never have made it alive without the Canadiens guides and trappers that made their passage possible among the native tribes. Not a word here about Toussaint Charbonneau while his wife is sanctified. America needs myths. This story is part of its old testament.
@rossmeldrum3346
@rossmeldrum3346 Жыл бұрын
Having played the part of Merriwether Lewis in a fourth grade play back in the 60's I know the answer. They asked the Indians they ran into on the way west. They used the Missouri river as a road.
@LouisHansell
@LouisHansell Жыл бұрын
I really do enjoy your videos. I subscribe with a bell and I always 'thumbs up'. There is an element of your presentation which could be improved. You tend to swallow the last word of a sentence. Some people do that. It is natural for the voice to drop to indicate the end of a sentence. But some 'swallow' the last word as they come sliding to the end of the sentence. I was able to determine the 'two' at the end of 1792 or 1802, but @3:50, when I couldn't make out the fort's name, I had to turn on subtitles. You do a lot of excellent work in the research and composition for these videos, and a tweak to your enunciation would add to that work.
@GeographyGeek
@GeographyGeek Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the feedback. I'll try to work on that.
@nebaicita
@nebaicita Жыл бұрын
The spanish rich out to alaska and charted and maped all the map you mention that include newmexico texas California florida luisiana oregon all those land was mexico spanish land
@johnwest7993
@johnwest7993 Жыл бұрын
"How did Lewis & Clark know where to go? " They asked the Native Americans for directions. You have to realize that Lewis and Clark were more like lost tourists than explorers. There were already millions of residents of the region who had lived there for thousands of years.
@tgwoolshire
@tgwoolshire Жыл бұрын
Sacagawea
@User_yhvz
@User_yhvz Жыл бұрын
Most Native tribes would have lied and directed them somewhere else. (As they should’ve) it wasn’t the natives job to help build a map they didn’t believe existed.
@stephanebeauregard4083
@stephanebeauregard4083 Жыл бұрын
L&C had French (and Métis) guides, in addition to Indian ones.
@lesliesylvan
@lesliesylvan Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@andrewwood6285
@andrewwood6285 Жыл бұрын
Lewis & Clark relied on Aerosmith for maps? He was a better rock musician than a map maker!
@jennyone8829
@jennyone8829 Жыл бұрын
Thank you 🎈
@-opus
@-opus Жыл бұрын
Here I was thinking I had stumbled upon the origin of Aerosmith, but it was just your accent.
@brandonbloomquist3267
@brandonbloomquist3267 Жыл бұрын
So short version is that they had a good collection of cobbled together information and a hunch to confirm?
@TalkingGIJoe
@TalkingGIJoe Жыл бұрын
They followed the natives... there were millions of indigenous peoples in this land.
@indianapatsfan
@indianapatsfan Жыл бұрын
Aerosmith made maps for Lewis and Clark? Wow, those guys are old.
@GeographyGeek
@GeographyGeek Жыл бұрын
😂
@dennisburt4614
@dennisburt4614 4 ай бұрын
Also the spanish had been allover the west coast mining gold there are still mines and canons in spots out west people have found spanish graves armore and lots off stuff
@FOJO27
@FOJO27 Жыл бұрын
Great video - new subscriber 👍🇨🇦
@GeographyGeek
@GeographyGeek Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@onebadapple83
@onebadapple83 Жыл бұрын
Years ago I read a well written detailed book about the expedition. Can’t remember the author. What I remember most that was not taught in school, mentioned here or anywhere else was that there was a fair sized black dude that was chosen for the expedition as a member (NOT a slave in any way) and his interactions with native Chiefs! No spoilers…..ya gotta find and read the book!!!!
@GeographyGeek
@GeographyGeek Жыл бұрын
Probably Undaunted Courage by Stephen Ambrose. You are referring to York. He was actually a slave of Clark. He was given many more rights during the expedition, including getting an equal vote on where to make camp on the west coast, but sadly when returning home he had to return to slavery.
@sophiaherman89
@sophiaherman89 Жыл бұрын
@@GeographyGeek thank you for providing clarification on the status of York. He was Clark’s “playmate” as a child, then save when he turned of age. Later he was the body servant of Clark when he was in the military. After the expedition, he asked for his freedom and Clark denied his freedom. Everyone on the expedition was paid a weekly salary and given land except for.. you guessed it York. So even though he had a equal vote during the expedition he was still treated and seen as a slave.
@IamMichaellucifer13
@IamMichaellucifer13 Жыл бұрын
They had GPS without question lol
@darrelljanssen588
@darrelljanssen588 11 ай бұрын
So the invention of the automobile would be given to early man for having invented the wheel? C'mon! Lewis and Clark did a remarkable job with the journey they took. Their preparation for this was outstanding to say the least. They studied under many others to create success. Don't take away from Lewis and Clark's fortitude.
@christiandevey3898
@christiandevey3898 Жыл бұрын
I suppose you could say that Arrowsmith told them to “Walk This Way”
@Less1leg2
@Less1leg2 9 ай бұрын
Lewis & Clark followed "word of mouth" stories from people already walked in those areas. They heard stories from ex-travellers whom roamed around. Once they heard a probable story of merit. They struck out to document the story. Surveying has to have proof, and prove stuff is what Lewis & Clark did.
@mjbucar
@mjbucar Жыл бұрын
Well done.
@ryandlancaster
@ryandlancaster Жыл бұрын
What is the name of the "rock in Idaho?" Obviously it's in Idaho, but I'd like to find out where.
@christopheraaron8299
@christopheraaron8299 Жыл бұрын
The Spanish had been in the western part of the continent for a century before Lewis and Clark. The way the western world works, anything that hasn't been seen by English eyes is "undiscovered."
@jcee2259
@jcee2259 Жыл бұрын
Spain built a Church where New Mexico is today before English, French, and Dutch left their wide Mississippi River watershed extent. Spain even went up the North America West Coast to find the Russians. Before the British did.
@christopherellis2663
@christopherellis2663 Жыл бұрын
The voyageurs were the earliest inland explorers of North America, the Spaniards preceding them along the coasts. Valdez, for example. Even so, French and English ships were across the Atlantic before 1500. Look at all of those French place names along the M & M rivers
@elainechubb971
@elainechubb971 Жыл бұрын
The Spanish, who were fixated on gold and precious gems, were concentrating on Mexico and the Caribbean, and not venturing much north of Florida--a wild forested landscape with native peoples living a mostly fairly rural life rather than in great metropolises such as those of the Aztecs and Maya, didn't offer much. But the Spanish did also explore inland areas of southwest North America, riding up from Mexico as far as Kansas (Coronado) and then establishing New Mexico and Upper California. I suppose the Voyageurs did beat them to it by a bit. Mostly the French and English steered clear of the Spanish territories (except for piracy).
@mm-yt8sf
@mm-yt8sf Жыл бұрын
ohh "arrowsmith" i thought he said aerosmith and wondered if there was a connection😀
@GeographyGeek
@GeographyGeek Жыл бұрын
“Walk this way” makes more sense now doesn’t it? lol
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