New York, NY: Westinghouse Traction Elevators (Schindler Mods) @ Marriott Marquis (10:15pm Run)

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georgef551

georgef551

13 жыл бұрын

These are the Westinghouse Traction Elevators, modernized by Schindler, with the unpredicably unreliable Miconic 10 Controller (Mi-"Chronic" 10 is more accurate). at the Marriott Marquis, Times Square, New York, New York.
Since there's plenty of people that are NOT Elevator Enthusiasts who watch this channel, a thorough description of the system, and how it works (or suposed to, in this case), is presented.
We ride the 3 types of elevators here, the Hotel Glassbacks, the "Innie" (Interior), and one slower lift that serves "The View", a rotating restaurant on the top 2 levels. (The low-rise lifts are pointless, so they were skipped.)
As many say, the flawed elevators behave well when being recorded, but not in this case. It enters "Phantom" calls, ignores requests, and frequently failed. In some cases not shown on video, I took the escalators, because it refused my calls to 8, and to get to my room, I was going to hitch a ride on a lift that came closest to my floor (30), and take the MPE to get there. Let's not forget the occasional 10 to 30 second wait between stops, after the doors close. On top of that, only the low-rise side would accept my high-rise calls half the time. Way to go, Schindler.
...and now you know why I call these the Mi-"Chronic" 10.

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@georgef551
@georgef551 13 жыл бұрын
@TheElevatorChannel Best part is, I caught this thing misbehaving! :) Glad you enjoyed this, and looking foward to your presentation of the new system in your area. (I'm also glad that, in spite of the 418,372 other videos of these, I made this one rather unique, with some angles nobody else, very few, used.)
@georgef551
@georgef551 10 жыл бұрын
The best part is when you're trying to get back to the 1st floor, and all the panels refuse your call. I almost took a service elevator because of it. Happened twice when I stayed here. I used the low-rise set to get the high-rise lifts to respond many times.
@Delaypat
@Delaypat 13 жыл бұрын
cool video man...never have seen those before
@georgef551
@georgef551 12 жыл бұрын
You didn't pay attention too well. :) It was clearly stated in-video, both narration and in text, the low-rise panels only accepted highrise calls most of the time I used it.
@georgef551
@georgef551 12 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how many people missed it. At least you responded with some class, so I give you a lot of points there. :)
@georgef551
@georgef551 10 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@georgef551
@georgef551 13 жыл бұрын
@MidAtlanticElevators In the 6am video, to be upped at a later time, it shows the system accepting a high-rise call on the low-rise side, thus me missing the elevator. :) While I was here, only the low-rise side took my high-rise calls half the time, while the high-rise side XX'd the calls.
@georgef551
@georgef551 12 жыл бұрын
I believe it is, as PORT is suposed to be its replacement.
@jasono346
@jasono346 12 жыл бұрын
I was surprised u did not use the handicapped feature it helps with getting to the 45th floor I was there in December for the 15th time going 2 NYC and they were working on a floor of the hotel it was all torn up I forgot with floor it was
@georgef551
@georgef551 12 жыл бұрын
@Ih8ads Try paying attention to the video. You would CLEARLY HEAR, AND READ, High-Rise calls only worked on the Low-Rise side.
@georgef551
@georgef551 13 жыл бұрын
@suzzex I know. Funny thing is, usually when people record elevators, they are on their best behavior. This was one case they were not. Best part are those who don't pay any attention to the video, telling me you can't enter high numbers on the low side. You can do that, and to really show attention failure, even the central panel didn't accept both high AND low numbers I punched in. That's Mi-"Chronic" 10 for ya'! :)
@georgef551
@georgef551 11 жыл бұрын
Motors: Westinghouse Platforms: Westinghouse Everything except cabs and electronics: Westinghouse
@georgef551
@georgef551 12 жыл бұрын
@Ih8ads At that moment, most high-rise calls only worked on the low-rise side. If you saw the other video, you'll see the low-rise side accepting a call to 45, but of course, missed the car. :)
@georgef551
@georgef551 13 жыл бұрын
@TheElevatorPlanet "Uhh, do we get off here? Hey. The doors are closing!" :)
@georgef551
@georgef551 12 жыл бұрын
I guess this is how "Port" came to be. :)
@georgef551
@georgef551 11 жыл бұрын
Actual photos show there's 49 floors, too. I have no idea where this 55th floor rumor happened. Probably another hotel.
@16pdaddy
@16pdaddy 8 жыл бұрын
DINOler ICONIC 10
@georgef551
@georgef551 12 жыл бұрын
It's called "Sarcasm". :) There's thousands of videos of these, and I'm sure many predate those in the Elevator Community, as well.
@georgef551
@georgef551 13 жыл бұрын
@BradyandNellyROCK123 Actually, you can. If you noticed, the CENTRAL console also didn't work, and didn't accept a low number, either.
@georgef551
@georgef551 12 жыл бұрын
I completely forgot to demonstrate that. Wasn't even a though whatsoever. :) Maybe next time, whenever that may be.....
@pieguy61
@pieguy61 12 жыл бұрын
the only reason at the beginning that it wouldn't aceept 45 is because you were trying to enter the number in the low rise bank of elevators which only goes to 28 or something like that.
@georgef551
@georgef551 12 жыл бұрын
Not sure. My guess is any overflow will appear at the bottom, as the upper numbers go away.
@georgef551
@georgef551 13 жыл бұрын
@TheElevatorPlanet Way to read descriptions, and the in-video annotations. :)
@georgef551
@georgef551 13 жыл бұрын
@Delaypat For the non Elevator Geek, it's different. For the elevator Geek, it's overdone, but in my case, I believe I actually made this video unique against the 418,372 other videos.
@georgef551
@georgef551 13 жыл бұрын
@TheElevatorPlanet You'd be surprised how many people didn't pay attention, and made comments worthy of removal. The 2'nd vid, which I mentioned, shows the low-rise taking a high-rise call (as that's almost the only way they got accepted off-camera), but then I take the long way around, and miss the elevator. :)
@georgef551
@georgef551 11 жыл бұрын
There's no immediate retake planned. This was a special trip, so if a retake were to happen, it's not very likely, or not anytime soon.
@georgef551
@georgef551 12 жыл бұрын
Never seen a PORT. On-video, yes, in-person, no. "Mi-Chronic" can be a pain. I almost took the MPE to my room once, as no panel accepted my floor calls once.
@georgef551
@georgef551 13 жыл бұрын
@MegaZeldafan1 Yes, but it actually defeats it's purpose. It's not even intelligable.
@epzik8
@epzik8 12 жыл бұрын
I stayed at this hotel in 2009.
@georgef551
@georgef551 12 жыл бұрын
Mi-"Chronic"-10 is a broken system. I guess that's why they install PORT now (same thing, but works).
@georgef551
@georgef551 10 жыл бұрын
No, I didn't. Then again, it's useless in this place (unrecognizable speech).
@MegaZeldafan1
@MegaZeldafan1 13 жыл бұрын
Did you know on the keypad, there is a handicap button that you can hear the voice annociator.
@georgef551
@georgef551 12 жыл бұрын
This system is seriously flawed. During the day, I could only reach my high-rise floor (30), if I entered it on the low-rise side. Either that, or none would take it. Once, I almost took the MPE instead. For the short-term memory fans, the 6:15am video clearly shows the low-rise side taking high-rise calls.
@gallagher123123
@gallagher123123 10 жыл бұрын
Did you try handy apt mode at all?
@Ih8ads
@Ih8ads 11 жыл бұрын
Yea your right I guess, suzzex told me that there were 55 but Wikipedia told me 49
@porcupinecool
@porcupinecool 12 жыл бұрын
Those banks go to 27!!
@TheElevatorPlanet
@TheElevatorPlanet 12 жыл бұрын
@georgef551- Well i havent seen eather of them, truthfully. Did u know Moronic 10 was discontinued?
@georgef551
@georgef551 13 жыл бұрын
@MidAtlanticElevators Him, and thousands of others.
@georgef551
@georgef551 11 жыл бұрын
There's no 55th floor. Look at a photo of the building, you'll see what's not there. I have seen the 49th.
@Ih8ads
@Ih8ads 12 жыл бұрын
at the beginning, YOU WERE ON THE LOW RIISE BANK WHICH GOES TO 27!
@simonelias9404
@simonelias9404 11 жыл бұрын
There is a 49th floor ...it's just offices
@georgef551
@georgef551 11 жыл бұрын
There's no 55th floor. It stops at 49. Look at a picture, it shows there's no such thing as 50-55.
@georgef551
@georgef551 13 жыл бұрын
@TheElevatorPlanet They should, since they were in the actual video itself, not the KZfaq annotations. Sorry for the cold shoulder, but sometimes, it pays to do your homework first. :)
@georgef551
@georgef551 11 жыл бұрын
Seen it.
@dea41396returns
@dea41396returns 12 жыл бұрын
When I rode these last night since I parked here to see a show, I rode these elevators up to 45 and when I went back down, I pressed * on the keypad as that typically is the equivalent of punching in the main floor., it said XX/Entry Not Understood... This system really could use an upgrade to Port...
@gallagher123123
@gallagher123123 10 жыл бұрын
I think that is terrible. They need to fix that. There are a lot of blind and visually impaired people that need it. I am one of them.
@suzzex
@suzzex 13 жыл бұрын
@georgef551 "Best part is, I caught this thing misbehaving" That statement isn't accurate, since that's their normal behavior! Take it from someone who has been on them on more than one occasion, this is them on a normal day. The system has quite a few hilarious bugs, but the way the cars are dispatched is unbeatable.
@indotravelguy2004
@indotravelguy2004 11 жыл бұрын
Car G is executive, try pressing 49 on floor3 or 55
@TheHighRiseElevatorLover
@TheHighRiseElevatorLover 11 жыл бұрын
I would like you to do a retake, because you narate well. I am a blind elevator enthusiast who has ridden those elevators. I knew about 49, but didn't go there because of the attendant on 3. You missed putting the elevators in handicaped mode. That's what the retake would be forj
@ablindguy
@ablindguy 3 жыл бұрын
I wish they could keep the original bell.
@TheElevatorPlanet
@TheElevatorPlanet 13 жыл бұрын
@georgef551- Man thats cold! The annotations dont appear on moble phones. But okay! THese things sound sort of death trappy from your video.
@Ih8ads
@Ih8ads 11 жыл бұрын
Probably
@98laurens
@98laurens 10 жыл бұрын
beatiful
@georgef551
@georgef551 12 жыл бұрын
Way to understand sarcasm. :)
@georgef551
@georgef551 12 жыл бұрын
@epzik8 Nice place, isn't it?
@TheElevatorPlanet
@TheElevatorPlanet 12 жыл бұрын
Its the moronic10 system at its best!
@JohnDoe-bc5zq
@JohnDoe-bc5zq 11 жыл бұрын
...yap! itz westy n schindler.
@georgef551
@georgef551 12 жыл бұрын
@5169743494 Schindler parts. "A" has bad guide wheel bearings.
@georgef551
@georgef551 11 жыл бұрын
If you're counting the 576,579 people prior to this visit, no.
@georgef551
@georgef551 12 жыл бұрын
@porcupinecool You didn't pay attention.....
@clarkloveselevators
@clarkloveselevators 11 жыл бұрын
Actually. Didn't someone else record this before you?
@TheElevatorPlanet
@TheElevatorPlanet 12 жыл бұрын
@georgef551 i actually like the moronics better then the PORT systems. I think the miconics are more creative and fun sode to speak. The PORT system is boring too me.
@TheElevatorPlanet
@TheElevatorPlanet 13 жыл бұрын
Maby the others woudnt work because they were on the low rise.
@curtisstephens775
@curtisstephens775 12 жыл бұрын
What if u put lots of floors in. What would happen to the indicator that says the floors that are being stopped at fills up
@Ih8ads
@Ih8ads 11 жыл бұрын
There is 55 floors total floors, in which L- 45 are public floors, 48 is "the view", and 49-55 are offices
@16pdaddy
@16pdaddy 9 жыл бұрын
5 5 take car e go to level 55 now
@georgef551
@georgef551 10 жыл бұрын
That would explain why people are looking for a floor that never existed.
@22408aaron
@22408aaron 10 жыл бұрын
Well, you have to think. This was EARLY destination dispatch. You should expect bugs, but it really isn't acceptable for them to leave the same glitchy controller in even though there are smarter solutions, or if it trappes you up at the 45th floor for 15 minutes -_-
@22408aaron
@22408aaron 10 жыл бұрын
Delgado told me that the rumor is simply a controller glitch
@daelevatingA380
@daelevatingA380 12 жыл бұрын
First 31 seconds was a lie! Elevatortimes filmed these elevators in 2009
@sophiaphillips4280
@sophiaphillips4280 10 жыл бұрын
I'm confused
@georgef551
@georgef551 10 жыл бұрын
Confused about what? I'd like to help out.
@pieguy61
@pieguy61 12 жыл бұрын
i have a tendency to sometimes not pay attention too well. sorry!
@rcardona2k
@rcardona2k 10 жыл бұрын
Not a tropical schindler elevator I filmed del rio
@dynamowow1
@dynamowow1 10 жыл бұрын
pretty easy to disparage the designers with dripping sarcasm without actually making a corresponding effort from your side. I remember folks using the elevators before the mod at the marriot and wait times were horrible. George-- you need to be a little realistic and stop being a nitpicker. even with your best efforts to make it look like an under-performing system, it still looks awesome !
@georgef551
@georgef551 10 жыл бұрын
That is because this particular install is well known to NEVER WORK RIGHT. It didn't when I was here. I had to rely on the low-rise side to make a high rise call about 90% of the time. When I wanted to go back to the ground floor from my room, it didn't work half the time. I came very close to becoming the 1st to get a video of the service elevators, because it wouldn't let me get off the floor I was on. Let's not forget a week later, Ih8escalators did a video here, and the lift he was riding on would randomly stop between floors, and would only move if he pressed the phone button. THERE IS A REASON why the Port system came to be, and this place was proof as to why.
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