Leave A Legacy: Disney's Controversial Epcot Monument

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George Browning

George Browning

Күн бұрын

If you visited Epcot at Walt Disney World any time in the 2000s, you'll remember the Epcot Leave a Legacy stones. Large granite monoliths at the entrance, built to commemorate trips to the park, and one of the most widely disliked additions to Disney World in recent history.
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CHAPTERS
0:00 Intro
0:53 The Origin of Leave a Legacy
3:58 The Beginning of Leave a Legacy
6:03 The Problems of Leave a Legacy
11:59 The Catch of Leave a Legacy
14:02 The End of Leave a Legacy

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@Planetvorton
@Planetvorton 19 күн бұрын
I always found it amusing how the Kingdom Keepers books referred to the monuments as, and I quote, “instead of feeling futuristic, it felt more like the cemetery where the ashes of Finn’s [the protagonist] grandparents had been buried.”
@thealabamiangirl
@thealabamiangirl 19 күн бұрын
I honestly forgot about that line but I died laughing when I read that, I absolutely love the kk novels and before I even read the kk novels I always hated the leave a legacy monument
@MikeOxlong-mo8oh
@MikeOxlong-mo8oh 19 күн бұрын
I think the whole ‘gravestone’ aesthetic definitely made walking into the park feel like some memorial or something. I think when I was young, me and my family went to Epcot around 2009 and I remember one of my parents said something like “Is this a 9/11 memorial”. Looking back, it definitely had a poor execution.
@user-li2yv5je5e
@user-li2yv5je5e 19 күн бұрын
Dedicated to those who fought valiantly at the Battle of Epcot.
@councilofkarens729
@councilofkarens729 18 күн бұрын
We lost a lot of good people that day...... 🤣
@MovieEggman
@MovieEggman 6 күн бұрын
I can confirm that my great grandfather fought in the Battle of Epcot, he claimed that it made Omaha Beach look like a picnic.
@user-li2yv5je5e
@user-li2yv5je5e 6 күн бұрын
@@MovieEggman Brave man. I hear it got really ugly around the bridge to the France Pavilion.
@deeheber
@deeheber 19 күн бұрын
My family uses the term "leave a legacy" as a nice way of saying pooping. Inspired by this monument.
@nelle1899
@nelle1899 17 күн бұрын
😂😂😂
@kevinmsmith61
@kevinmsmith61 19 күн бұрын
My sister and I got a tile because Disney gave it for free as part of our vacation package. They must have been desperate to fill tiles when we got it done.
@MaxEverywhereSystem
@MaxEverywhereSystem 19 күн бұрын
i dont know if this is a controversial take, but i thought thematically this fit pretty well w/epcots themes of multiculturalism shown in world showcase. maybe if they put it over there and designed it a little less tombstone-esque it would be a cool visualization of the diversity of people we share our planet with.
@CSReed
@CSReed 19 күн бұрын
I completely agree! Leave a Legacy was a perfect thematic match for Epcot.
@MrWosull
@MrWosull 16 күн бұрын
Also I feel like it would have helped if the quality of the images was much better. Alot of them just end up looking down right creepy. I guess it would be hard to create photographs that wouldn't fade due to exposure to the elements.
@CSReed
@CSReed 19 күн бұрын
I liked how the rocks complimented the supports to spaceship earth.
@marknason4572
@marknason4572 19 күн бұрын
My wife and I purchased a Leave a Legacy when we were on our honeymoon in 2000. I still have the souvenir printing of the image of us.
@Chowderchef
@Chowderchef 19 күн бұрын
My parents actually bought a walk around the world tile!! It was before my one brother and i were born, so its just my parents and our oldest brother. We go and find it everytime we've gone :)
@zamgion
@zamgion 19 күн бұрын
I liked them a lot. I think they would have been cooler if they had their own subdued area originally and it didn't bring as much traction as it was quite literally right in front of the Epcot Sphere.
@STSGuitar16
@STSGuitar16 19 күн бұрын
Just took a trip to Epcot today and it was my first time seeing everything since the walls came down. Wow, what a disappointment. Wtf is the Moana water thing even doing in Epcot? It just sticks out like a sore thumb and makes no sense at all. And the new centerpiece where the fountain used to be is equally unimpressive. The last ride we rode right before closing was Soarin’, and seeing the old Epcot at the end of the ride was a stark reminder how much I prefer the old version. It wasn’t perfect by any means, but man, this current version is just a total mess.
@PencilStash
@PencilStash 19 күн бұрын
Had two tiles done around the 2001 timeframe. Execution totally looked like a tragic war memorial. Not only the granite structures, but the tile faces themselves were sooo creepy! Glad they are gone.
@bunniesbunniesbunnie
@bunniesbunniesbunnie 18 күн бұрын
honestly, that's why I liked them. I gave them ironic salutes every time I went past and cackled.
@kriscynical
@kriscynical 19 күн бұрын
My mother and I did this once in 2000 when I was 15 and again the summer after I graduated high school in 2003. I always thought it was pretty neat.
@becklarkin
@becklarkin 19 күн бұрын
my grandparents and sisters did this in the year 2000! my grandma is dead now, so it's a little comforting that part of her is on display at her favorite place on earth...and also my sisters as very young children.
@tufab3494
@tufab3494 19 күн бұрын
I think they should make a small square just outside EPCOT with those photos scattered around stone pillars, in simmilar fashion but also in their own area. But all we can do is wish...
@A.F.Whitepigeon
@A.F.Whitepigeon 19 күн бұрын
You know, it kind of does look like a war memorial, now that you mention it. Still, its appearance is fittingly modern, it doesn't spoil any sightlines, and it was clearly thoughtfully designed by human hands. Plus, all the faces tie in pretty well with the multicultural themes of the other half of the park. Honestly, I still vastly prefer it over the soulless new Future World hub. After your apologist video about the Sorcerer's Hat, I had hoped for less negativity here.
@scooter1737
@scooter1737 19 күн бұрын
The EPCOT fountain is not glass, it's acrylic. Also, people got burns from the metal plaques sitting in the Florida sun
@cg6711
@cg6711 19 күн бұрын
I really like the new entrance of EPCOT myself. The return of more greenery, the iconic fountain look and even the pavilion flags at the front are all great. Can’t forget the way the new Spaceship Earth lights and general perimeter lights also create an amazing package. However, the Leave a Legacy tiles and monuments were such a big part of my childhood going to EPCOT from around 2006 until they were removed. Even more than the Sorcerer’s Hat for me, they embodied that park. Kudos to John Hench for making them look as good as they did, but their lifespan was limited in the war memorial-esque execution lol. I’m happy with the way the entrance is now, but I’ll always have nostalgia for the Leave a Legacy graveyard haha. Great video! Made me so nostalgic. ❤️
@cg6711
@cg6711 19 күн бұрын
Also, I don’t feel this way now, but I do have a photo my parents took of the EPCOT wand circa 2007, and I call it “the new and improved EPCOT ball” 😭🥴
@magules13
@magules13 19 күн бұрын
I could’ve sworn that thing has been around longer than the turn of the millennium. I could be thinking of the walkway tiles though. I do remember my mom commenting on how ugly it was.
@zacr7698
@zacr7698 19 күн бұрын
Yo, I never would have thought Jeff from Kansas would make it to Disney in 2000. I never thought he'd aspire to much but here he is at the top of the world
@-chrisburke
@-chrisburke 19 күн бұрын
It's always a great day when George uploads! 😊
@ErisIsAnAbomination
@ErisIsAnAbomination 17 күн бұрын
Weirdly enough, I was just thinking about this. I was at Disney World a few months ago and the Epcot park entrance looks so much better with them gone. I remember seeing them as a kid and thinking it looked really bleak and industrial, plus the faces looking kinda uncanny in general. I get the appeal, but it made the park entrance look like a concrete jungle and I’m glad it’s been replaced with more green and “friendly” decor. Maybe Leave A Legacy could have worked better if names or faces were engraved on a fountain or planter, or even a huge mural of some kind… Anything but a gray maze of depressing blocks.
@phillinsogood
@phillinsogood 19 күн бұрын
I do remember seeing them as a kid and thinking they were so large but great to hide from the sun. Ngl I wish the Mickey wand and hand stayed a bit longer I loved looking at it.
@freshgarbage1492
@freshgarbage1492 19 күн бұрын
This was a great video! Super concise, well narrated and well informed! Hope your channel grows. Just checked and not only have I been subbed for a while but I've seen a lot of your videos, the quality of them led me to believe you were a larger channel!
@chinalee-mn4vy
@chinalee-mn4vy 8 күн бұрын
I survived a major car crash in 2000. After I recovered I went to my favorite place in the world, Disney World. My friend and I purchased a, leave a Legacy tile. We went back to see if it was still there in 2001. It was and I felt like part of the park. I truly want to go back again and find it. Thanks for the memories of that time.😊🙏🏽💜
@cg6711
@cg6711 19 күн бұрын
3:19 this absolutely made me crack up… there’s millions of people who go to Disney World every year Disney… what are you talking about 😂😭 marketing at its finest 😅
@zacr7698
@zacr7698 19 күн бұрын
I actually have a picture somewhere on there. One year my mom was looking for it and fell on the corner of it, permanently damaging her knee. We never found my pic but I like to think a very tiny low res 7 or 8 year old me was watching her body slam the pavement from a distance
@suttongriffin8154
@suttongriffin8154 15 күн бұрын
Personally I love the futuristic look to the monoliths, they really give off brutalistic scifi vibes and I think it really well fits the vibe of the park for what its original design scheme was for the park.
@IndiaHamilton445
@IndiaHamilton445 2 күн бұрын
When I was a young child a very close friend from school passed away. I'm not sure the year exactly but we bought and dedicated a text square to his memory. For my entire Disney life I would wave at the monuments and say "hi Derek". Ugly as they may be, the memory will always be so special to me. Also I had no idea they had been "moved", I haven't been back to Disney post-pandemic but will have to make sure to check them out before 2027!
@MrWosull
@MrWosull 16 күн бұрын
3:14 I really appreciate the subtle sense of humor on this channel
@FlavorLab
@FlavorLab 19 күн бұрын
Just found your channel, amazing video! Earned a sub!
@valrandazzo103
@valrandazzo103 17 күн бұрын
Thank you for reminding me of this. My grandma and I did this when I was a kid
@PajamaPantsClan
@PajamaPantsClan 18 күн бұрын
I had no idea these were so controversial. My parents did this back then and would always point out their image when we went
@VixenLovelove
@VixenLovelove 19 күн бұрын
Yo I remember seeing these. They honestly kinda scared me they were so big. I didn’t even know there were people on them, my dumb near sighted self thought the plates were like water ripples or something.
@davidschiller1611
@davidschiller1611 18 күн бұрын
As a Disney fan I purchased my Leave a Legacy on day one. My image was on the first panel. This was on the first panel to the right upon entering. It was at the bottom left corner of the panel. Now I am in the middle of nowhere on the wall. I am not thrilled.
@Xianelly
@Xianelly 16 күн бұрын
When entering Epcot I always ran to the Nsync faces for a good luck tap 😅
@davidschiller1611
@davidschiller1611 18 күн бұрын
A friend of mine was on the team that picked the granite. His idea was to use etched glass instead of granite. If you remember the images that surrounded the chrome service elevator column. He is the tall blond man wearing the blue shirt.
@Reinminer
@Reinminer 17 күн бұрын
I'm glad I got to be there that year, fond memories. It was march, I was 13, peak timing xD
@Drokmars
@Drokmars 19 күн бұрын
My toddler face is on one of those lol
@ufgatorbearify
@ufgatorbearify 19 күн бұрын
My 30 year old face is too lol
@galaga2x808
@galaga2x808 19 күн бұрын
I'll never forget leave a legacy my late mother's picture with my dad is immortalized at epcot
@sonomabob9043
@sonomabob9043 17 күн бұрын
I almost decided to purchase a tile in 2003, but decided not to because the "legacy" was only guaranteed for 20 yrs. I've only been back to Epcot two times since.
@tearoses9940
@tearoses9940 18 күн бұрын
The fact that I didn’t even realize they were there the 3 times I’ve been to Disney, even having them visible in the pictures I took of the Epcot ball xD Though I guess it’s kinda neat, since I have a picture from Spring 2019 when they were still there but about to be taken down.
@ufgatorbearify
@ufgatorbearify 19 күн бұрын
My mother and I have leave a legacy. Still have commemorative photo that they gave. Always thought it was cool looking. But we're Floridians, so it's a different story.
@TrialzGTAS
@TrialzGTAS 19 күн бұрын
I went March of 2002 my first time and in November of 2006 (Jersey Week 😎) and I have no memory of this. I like the idea of it but there should have been something else done.
@norawantstobattle
@norawantstobattle 17 күн бұрын
i remember seeing the stones in like 2012, and i definitely thought they were a vietnam war memorial?? i was like 5 i have no idea what was going on in my little cranium, but apparently it wasn’t much
@Spindash54
@Spindash54 18 күн бұрын
Out of everything, I’m just impressed Disney still had the original files to recreate the walls in the new location outside the park.
@a.t.m873
@a.t.m873 17 күн бұрын
I also, at first, thought they were some sort of memorial rather than just pictures of people who have been to epcot during a certain period.
@bunniesbunniesbunnie
@bunniesbunniesbunnie 18 күн бұрын
I personally love the tombstones.
@CoolGuyGreen1
@CoolGuyGreen1 19 күн бұрын
me and my family had this and have a stone at the disneyland entrance (:
@dirge7459
@dirge7459 19 күн бұрын
What really irked the hell out of me, is that me and my Ma would visit Florida every 5-6 years. She had plans for us to go to Florida during 2017, but she sadly passed away during early 2017, before we could even purchase any tickets and start planning the trip out in general. Before she passed away, we had always on and off talked about adding our names/pictures to the Leave a Legacy pillars, and since she had passed on, I wanted to visit Epcot and leave her name/photo on one of the pillars as a memorial/remembrance of sorts, but by the time I had the money saved to do all of this, Disney had the monuments removed, and my dream was completely shot. I honestly hated Disney for this, mostly because I could never fulfil the one wish I had for the sake of a memory, and another because they originally promised park visitors that those monuments would stand tall for 100+ years, and they were not even close to that promise.
@sharptojo6420
@sharptojo6420 18 күн бұрын
My family had purchased a personalized brick in the ticket and transportation center by Magic Kingdom back in the late 90s / early 2000s (I can’t remember exactly). I’m aware that all of them have been removed within the last several years. Does anyone have any idea if they were relocated, destroyed, etc?
@GeorgesSpace
@GeorgesSpace 16 күн бұрын
I think similar to the ones outside of Magic Kingdom, they would have been removed, with the option to purchase a commemorative replica to take home with you.
@sharptojo6420
@sharptojo6420 16 күн бұрын
@@GeorgesSpace appreciate the info. You’re a legend.
@gruntingskunk2237
@gruntingskunk2237 16 күн бұрын
Quality-ass channel right here.
@Eddunaway-qp5tv
@Eddunaway-qp5tv 19 күн бұрын
Epcot is fun park very beautiful and unique rides always love the big Golf ball place
@bloodysparkles5372
@bloodysparkles5372 19 күн бұрын
i could NEVER tell what those were supposed to be whenever i walked by there.. my best guess was war memorial😭 glad to know it's not as dark as i thought
@Msteve-nt5bx
@Msteve-nt5bx 18 күн бұрын
It looks crazy in retrospect, but at the time, it really wasn't bad. They were up probably too long but a lot of people did it because they were fun for people
@councilofkarens729
@councilofkarens729 18 күн бұрын
Reminds me of the memorial for "blipped" people in Avengers: Endgame" LOL I can see what the intention was, but the execution.........
@CapeSIX
@CapeSIX 18 күн бұрын
I go to Disney world a lot. And yes I’ve got my picture of the wall. I think leaving a legacy is great idea.
@SlabbyMess
@SlabbyMess 12 күн бұрын
Didn’t know about this
@KiLlErZ-zg7cf
@KiLlErZ-zg7cf 11 күн бұрын
I was on one of these photos I miss it😢
@webguy943
@webguy943 19 күн бұрын
First thing i thought was rest in peace. 😂😂
@Skippyy_plays
@Skippyy_plays 14 күн бұрын
My cusens, brother and I are on the wall lol our names were at haven’t checked for that but believe one of the resorts in tiles
@Zoopop13
@Zoopop13 18 күн бұрын
my nana and papa had a brick in the ground i believe, we saw it on 1 of the 2 family trips we took to disneyworld. i always wanted to keep it ngl. i just wonder what happened to all of them. edit: if anyone frequents EPCOT, i would greatly appreciate if someone could get a picture for me. i have the code, i used the tile finder, but i would love an updated picture before it disappears/never being able to visit the parks again probably in my lifetime.
@PengutheFox
@PengutheFox 19 күн бұрын
Ariana Grande was there? I gotta find her toddler self next time.
@RetrocadePodcast
@RetrocadePodcast 17 күн бұрын
Never forget. Gone but not forgotten 🇺🇸
@lizamat1140
@lizamat1140 11 күн бұрын
I thought it was a memorial of deceased disney employees until probably 2014
@burneyboys02
@burneyboys02 19 күн бұрын
As someone who is part of Leave A Legacy, I honestly didn't a problem with it when me and my brother did it in 2001. The basic thing I took away from it was I was part of Walt Disney World history and that's a once in a lifetime opportunity I bet you wouldn't want to pass up. Although, when I discovered how the Epcot entrance used to look like before the program I'll admit that I wanted to experience that. But thanks to the recent renovations, now I feel some of that early 80s Epcot for the first time. The new location of the pictures is still good enough and I can find mine whenever I want. Now in terms and what Disney will do with them come 2027, that's still uncertain. I don't think they should remove them but at least give out the photos to those who took part the program as a momento. I doubt we've seen the last of them for the time being but they're still here to stay. *I learned that NSYNC was part of this a long while back, but my mind is blown knowing that Ariana and Frankie Grande did this to!
@rrsaga
@rrsaga 14 күн бұрын
I have one but didn’t have to pay because I was and am a cast member.. it’s fun
@GreenBlueWalkthrough
@GreenBlueWalkthrough 19 күн бұрын
I mean it seems the people who hate it have never seen one of these things before like at school for example... Like in Florida when you need list of a lot of people you do this... Like I never knew what it was for but I saw the vision of it and now I know it was a time capsule that people hated because... It looked like a lot of people who whent to dysney and paid $30 and are now holding up the geodesic ball? Like give me a break.
@bdluejay
@bdluejay 8 күн бұрын
i always thought leave a legacy was some sort of 9/11 or war memorial, i honestly didnt know what they were for until i saw this video, and ive been to epcot many times since 2005
@chadmcnk
@chadmcnk 6 күн бұрын
I don't really agree. People would walk right past them quickly anyway. I mean, what was there was 'nothing' before these. Now there is 'nothing'. I mean seriously there is nothing there other than some planters. How is what is there today any better? There is quite literally nothing there. I personally never thought they were all that bad but I can see how some folks might think more into them. I thought they looked kinda cool actually. Gave you the impression that you were entering a whole other world and experience and at that time it really was an experience like no other (it's nearly all IP today...). They actually accomplished that beginning to a different kind of experience. That's gone today.
@Anynom
@Anynom 19 күн бұрын
I have a photo there!
@_dh
@_dh 19 күн бұрын
Well written and thought out. 🎉
@daniethegirl029
@daniethegirl029 19 күн бұрын
They didn’t break up, they took a break, which will bankrupt me when it ends.
@doucetandjones
@doucetandjones 19 күн бұрын
I also thought the tiles were people who died lol
@johnp139
@johnp139 14 күн бұрын
So? They usually have surviving family members.
@slob5041
@slob5041 3 күн бұрын
I think it looks cool
@kitkatdaboss333
@kitkatdaboss333 19 күн бұрын
first also this just like the sorcerers hat is something that i miss because this is how i remember the park.
@meagtaylor3392
@meagtaylor3392 18 күн бұрын
I don't think I was aware of their purpose when I went in 2016 but they creeped me out. From far away it looks like a memorial for people who died.
@Skippyy_plays
@Skippyy_plays 14 күн бұрын
Lasting on and off over 20 years and for the price ain’t bad your gonna spend more on some random bs you’ll forget about in a few days, 🤷🏼‍♂️
@AkiDave
@AkiDave 19 күн бұрын
Cooked!
@achannell362
@achannell362 17 күн бұрын
I did it in high school! 😆
@johnp139
@johnp139 14 күн бұрын
Too many fucking commercials!!!!!!!!!!
@zaynightwing
@zaynightwing 18 күн бұрын
George’s humor is very underrated
@Toon_Lucario
@Toon_Lucario 15 күн бұрын
So I’m just gonna rip the bandaid off. How many people on those stones do you think are dead now? Because not only has it been almost 20 years, but also most of these were done before 9/11 and a pandemic.
@johnp139
@johnp139 14 күн бұрын
Only 3,000 people out of 280 MILLION PEOPLE!!!! INSIGNIFICANT!!!!
@Toon_Lucario
@Toon_Lucario 14 күн бұрын
@@johnp139 that’s not what I was asking bud. Also 3,000 people is absolutely a big amount and innocent lives lost is still tragic. Please stop with this bs.
@The-epcot-nerd
@The-epcot-nerd 11 күн бұрын
🤓☝️
@Evangelionism
@Evangelionism 19 күн бұрын
Lol.....disney
@8675309858
@8675309858 18 күн бұрын
Me and my father’s photo on Leave a Legacy was a blessing in the skies. I remember my father telling me the story how we got our opportunity. Some guy at a bar managed to talk to my father about his ticket for Leave a Legacy and he gave it to my father on the house. And the next day we got our photo taken from there. It was a huge blessing (and to the gentleman who did that both of us are extremely thankful for it) we never thought it was ugly and enjoyed seeing all the photos of others in Leave a Legacy. So we never cared for the people who talked bad about it cause it’s like throwing stones (pun intended) at us with our photo (still feel that way) My family has been involved with Disney world since ‘73 and will continue with myself along the way. Thankful it still exists (despite the new location) but still I wonder why they decided to break a promise (even though that’s nothing new with Disney)
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