Geraint Thomas' Pinarello Dogma F Pro Bike | Tour De France 2024

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Possibly one of the more iconic bikes in the Tour de France, Ollie gives a full breakdown of the new Pinarello Dogma F used by Geraint Thomas of INEOS Grenadiers!
00:00 Geraint Thomas’ Pinarello Dogma F for Tour de France 2024
00:19 The new Pinarello Dogma F
00:55 Shimano groupset, gearing, and wheels
01:25 Tyres
02:19 Brake rotors
02:25 Frame size
03:00 Cockpit
03:40 Seat tube and saddle
04:27 Pedals
04:34 Bottle cages
04:41 Wax chain patrol
04:52 Freehub soundcheck
05:05 Chain catcher and cranks
05:33 Weight of the bike
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@gcntech
@gcntech 12 күн бұрын
What do you make of Geraint's Dogma F? 🔥
@adadinthelifeofacyclist
@adadinthelifeofacyclist 12 күн бұрын
Whatever Ollie said. That's all I know about it 🤷‍♂️
@AK-je7ns
@AK-je7ns 12 күн бұрын
I think it’s hilarious they are riding on duff power meters.
@leerichy6489
@leerichy6489 12 күн бұрын
Very nice, young persons bike. Must have run out of money and had to use a drop of Halfords 20/50 on the chain 😅
@72Cowboy72
@72Cowboy72 12 күн бұрын
Ollie says, "Waxed chain patrol, let's check. Oil...🤨 ...disappointing." LOL!
@whynotride327
@whynotride327 11 күн бұрын
I think bicycles do NOT have a cockpit.
@tomdebaerdemaeker
@tomdebaerdemaeker 12 күн бұрын
Hilarious to see Olli's face every time the chain appears to be oiled.
@Eirikkinserdal
@Eirikkinserdal 11 күн бұрын
If you have seen the way pro mechanics wash the bikes every single day. It's pretty violent. Tons of degreaser. Oil can be great, but it requires washing every day..
@gcntech
@gcntech 11 күн бұрын
He does not like that 👀
@robjohnston1114
@robjohnston1114 10 күн бұрын
He's like a parent: "I'm not angry, just disappointed!"
@forza1860muc
@forza1860muc 10 күн бұрын
Every Pro Team uses oil. Some may use wax for time trials but since they wash and degrease the bike every day anyway its just more convenient to stick to the known oil based lubes.
@Eirikkinserdal
@Eirikkinserdal 10 күн бұрын
And emergency in race lubrication (mechanic hanging out the window spraying the chain) just would work with wax 😅 but for the consumer and the increase in drivetrain lifespan it's worth it
@garyhocking6947
@garyhocking6947 11 күн бұрын
Instead of disappointment about non-waxed chains, perhaps Ollie should talk to one of the mechanic about why they are using oil lube. My guess, since each bike is power washed after every stage, they don't have time to hot wax 24 chains every night (3 bikes x 8 riders). And probably don't have time to prep 504 chains before the tour (8 riders x 21 stages x 3 bikes).
@Chiller11
@Chiller11 12 күн бұрын
A beautiful bike. I’ll take mine in blue thank you very much.
@gcntech
@gcntech 11 күн бұрын
Bit like this one? 👉kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ap6PjbSjvd3PZoU.html
@robjohnston1114
@robjohnston1114 10 күн бұрын
I concur
@SpockCycles
@SpockCycles 12 күн бұрын
Oiled Chains Suffered on stage 9 gravel, by the end of it chains were filled with an oil sand paste where the dust stuck to the chain/oil basically like a cutting paste.
@gcntech
@gcntech 11 күн бұрын
They don't ned to worry too much about that, new chains all around after the stage 🙌
@SpockCycles
@SpockCycles 11 күн бұрын
@@gcntech id expect the whole bike to be thrown in the bin after that stage to be perfectly honest with you.
@timetrialist
@timetrialist 11 күн бұрын
Its great to see GCN focusing on probike reviews again this the only reason I ended up with 20 bikes 😂
@gcntech
@gcntech 11 күн бұрын
Now you need to name all 20 😉
@steelcity4581
@steelcity4581 11 күн бұрын
Stunning bike. Miss the black and blue Team Sky colour scheme however
@madmick9205
@madmick9205 12 күн бұрын
stunning bike.
@johnstrac
@johnstrac 12 күн бұрын
Lovely bike that.
@mattdavis855
@mattdavis855 12 күн бұрын
Can't believe Ineos let you film the bike!
@gcntech
@gcntech 12 күн бұрын
We have steady hands 👀
@Chiller11
@Chiller11 12 күн бұрын
They spend hundreds of thousands sponsoring Ineos to sell these bikes to lawyers and doctors who dress in their weekend Lycra. By letting GCN film the bike they are getting a ton of free marketing. Well not free because I think they sponsor GCN as well but they get tens of thousands of views on their product. Hell I want one, I don’t cycle anymore but I still want one. PS I’ll take mine in blue.
@mattdavis855
@mattdavis855 12 күн бұрын
@@Chiller11 Just a joke, Ineos wouldn't let road.cc film their bikes recently.
@askmeaboutmattweiner
@askmeaboutmattweiner 12 күн бұрын
​@@mattdavis855 Lol
@troycollett8540
@troycollett8540 12 күн бұрын
Prob his spare bike
@martinmorris6485
@martinmorris6485 12 күн бұрын
nice ...interesting they are using 54 -40 rings ....some great features , am still catching up with all the latest tech , when i started riding way back in the eighties things were so different ha ha ha.....but yeah very tasty bike thanks for the tour hope he does well in the Tour
@julianmorris9951
@julianmorris9951 12 күн бұрын
I’ve actually gone back to that era with a steel olmo 53/39 and 23 as lowest gear in back, it’s so simple and cheap to maintain, it’s crazy to think they’re now riding with a 34 cassette!!!!!, I’d like a nice Pinarello but the price is eye watering and I’ve found my old olmo is making me work harder and I’m just as fast as on my carbon bike, hills are tougher though😊
@AcousticJesta
@AcousticJesta 12 күн бұрын
@@julianmorris9951 uumm have been using 11-27 11 speed and sticking with 50 -34 quite a few steepish hills on Dartmoor and my aging legs need a bit more care these days, but kind of get why they are using 54- 40 for fast flatter terrain and they are usually drafting in big groups, then they'd need 34 on the back to cope with some of the mountains ....tiz interesting though and lower /smaller gears on the block would make it much lighter , guess it's still trial and error , a bit like tubeless some times better but with these new TPU inner tubes it all changes yet again ....also liking using wider tyres very interesting that 30mm are more efficient and much more comfy ,which is more of an issue to my old bones.
@impaledface7694
@impaledface7694 12 күн бұрын
Continental has done a similar blacked out logo on their gatorskins "black" edition. Probably used the same tech to do it on this. I like to be able to read the logo and lettering. Some conti tires are quite hard to read.
@RATM1971
@RATM1971 9 күн бұрын
The look of disdain on Ollie's face when he finds out the chain is oiled is priceless.
@allisgood.6191
@allisgood.6191 12 күн бұрын
Stealth look 👍🏼
@miguelrodriguesserra1895
@miguelrodriguesserra1895 11 күн бұрын
You guys could make also a video on the Cofidis Look 795 Blade RS with the new cool white paint...
@grndezyns
@grndezyns 11 күн бұрын
Love the orange!
@gcntech
@gcntech 11 күн бұрын
Ineos always look classy 👌
@gavinm717gkm
@gavinm717gkm 11 күн бұрын
I would love to know what kind of glue they use on the bar tape, I want to set mine up the same way. That’s clean as a bean.
@suhdud4646
@suhdud4646 11 күн бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="294">4:54</a> - the moment any tour mechanic dreads, waiting for inspector Bridgewoods seal of approval in the form of a simple but terrifying "Good".
@gcntech
@gcntech 11 күн бұрын
Hahahaha this is what all the mechanics have in mind 🤣
@andyfairchild2383
@andyfairchild2383 11 күн бұрын
Yup I’d love one of those, but it really would be peak “all the gear and no idea”!
@benjym6783
@benjym6783 11 күн бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="60">1:00</a> is that a chip in the glossy coating they use on the brake lever?
@narutodayo
@narutodayo 11 күн бұрын
I prefer the blue, personally, but still a great bike!
@ksoulos1
@ksoulos1 7 күн бұрын
Great Presentation ! Which is the brand of bar tape?
@jacked200
@jacked200 11 күн бұрын
Can someone tell me how a waxed chain even lubricates anything? Wax turns into a solid when cooled and then crumbles so how does it do anything for keeping the chain joints moving freely?
@ygoeb13
@ygoeb13 12 күн бұрын
good to see the shimano random number generators on there... sorry I mean shimano power meters
@raylovinggood9398
@raylovinggood9398 12 күн бұрын
Bigger bottom bracket for motors?
@carlosdeno
@carlosdeno 12 күн бұрын
Lovely rubbing marks on the rear disc! 😂🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿
@robc6220
@robc6220 11 күн бұрын
this is great but what hair product do you use?
@nilspetersen5566
@nilspetersen5566 12 күн бұрын
hoping for a time trial or gravel stage specific tech video
@JMcLeodKC711
@JMcLeodKC711 11 күн бұрын
The logo blacking out has to do with who is paying for the tires. My guess is that Ineos is paying for those tires out of their pockets therefore Ineos will not provide FREE advertisement. Find out who their tire sponsor REALLY is. Having said that, no mistaking that tread pattern (such that is is).
@pdsnpsnldlqnop3330
@pdsnpsnldlqnop3330 12 күн бұрын
I am sure that Continental can supply tires with the labels on, and I am sure the team can black the labels out if Continental don't furnish them with a free supply of tyres.
@Big_Island_Boi
@Big_Island_Boi 8 күн бұрын
Is Geraint even riding in the 2024 Tour? I have not seen him in one single highlight reel so far... and he's not in GC contention... so I assumed he was not riding in this year's Tour for some reason.
@Mauku_Miukunen
@Mauku_Miukunen 11 күн бұрын
#hackorbodge for the ASO for using zip ties to keep the race transponder mount in place, Si?
@telmemorem8992
@telmemorem8992 11 күн бұрын
you know I like this colourway .
@gcntech
@gcntech 11 күн бұрын
It's cool right!
@danihe8528
@danihe8528 11 күн бұрын
Blue!
@aktieninvestor308
@aktieninvestor308 12 күн бұрын
One of the nicest bikes in the peleton.
@gcntech
@gcntech 11 күн бұрын
It's an iconic bike! 🙌
@whizler
@whizler 12 күн бұрын
It's undoubtedly a very cool bike but these Pinarellos have been covered to death. Let's see the bike that's arguably one of the hottest at the moment: Girmay's CUBE Litening C:68X AERO
@petersouthernboy6327
@petersouthernboy6327 12 күн бұрын
You’re the first person to say anything about CUBE in the TdF
@user-jq4ei4rg3x
@user-jq4ei4rg3x 12 күн бұрын
🔥😋
@alexanderdoyley5816
@alexanderdoyley5816 8 күн бұрын
Wow
@steweymacaroon7815
@steweymacaroon7815 12 күн бұрын
Is this a new bike? Feel like the GCN crew have been on these for years now
@AnvilAirsoftTV
@AnvilAirsoftTV 12 күн бұрын
Ollie you should never admit that a man’s stem is longer than yours…
@kai_291
@kai_291 12 күн бұрын
Nah men give credit where credit is due
@savagepro9060
@savagepro9060 12 күн бұрын
@@kai_291 2:27 says a lot, check it out
@savagepro9060
@savagepro9060 11 күн бұрын
@@kai_291 "Nah men give credit where credit is due" yeah, at the local g@y bar
@geraintjones6401
@geraintjones6401 11 күн бұрын
That bike looks kick ducking arse. 👌
@gcntech
@gcntech 11 күн бұрын
Will it win a stage 👀
@cd0u50c9
@cd0u50c9 12 күн бұрын
Frankly, it looks like it's been in a crash and as a consequence they wanted to fix it but ran out of materials for the chainstays and paint to finish the orange paintjob.. The Dogma was never the prettiest bike out there, but the old Dogmas had a logic to the design, but this one escapes me. GCN, if you get a hold of the Enve bike, now that one would be worth a video!
@Dimashoey
@Dimashoey 11 күн бұрын
I think the seatpost is slightly angled to the seat tube? 😮
@gcntech
@gcntech 11 күн бұрын
How do you mean?
@theredracer
@theredracer 9 күн бұрын
Bring back Eruption Red ❤
@cpk313
@cpk313 12 күн бұрын
If you had the 56 Ollie, you might be able to run a 140mm stem.
@robertbutler3403
@robertbutler3403 12 күн бұрын
Was that grip tape in the bottle cages?
@gcntech
@gcntech 11 күн бұрын
G loves to skate
@chrismoss7992
@chrismoss7992 12 күн бұрын
Best looking bike on the tour
@gcntech
@gcntech 11 күн бұрын
That colour 👌
@Evaso_CC
@Evaso_CC 10 күн бұрын
Sums up Sky/Ineos pretty well - dull but efficient
@HeyWattsUpCycling
@HeyWattsUpCycling 12 күн бұрын
geeze, heavier than my pinarello f5 105 build with 31mm rubber
@gcntech
@gcntech 12 күн бұрын
Would you prefer this one though?
@HeyWattsUpCycling
@HeyWattsUpCycling 12 күн бұрын
@@gcntech idk why its not 6.8kg. where are they hiding the lead ?
@tommyfreckmann6857
@tommyfreckmann6857 12 күн бұрын
How much does yours weigh?
@HeyWattsUpCycling
@HeyWattsUpCycling 12 күн бұрын
@@tommyfreckmann6857 this morning its 7.080 with dual power pedals bottle cages and comp mount (ready to race) could be nearly 400g lighter with DA deraileurs, shifters and fsa crankset. kzfaq.info6ZjAjwCHreE?feature=share
@zhuyufan1186
@zhuyufan1186 12 күн бұрын
Looks more inline with what other manufacturers do to their bikes. Less curvy and muscular.
@bobfrode
@bobfrode 12 күн бұрын
Ill take mine matt black if i could afford :D
@gcntech
@gcntech 11 күн бұрын
Like Ollie 👉kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b5qeq8-lztTPdYk.html 🙌
@phillyh34
@phillyh34 12 күн бұрын
How much difference are these bikes actually making, there's been that many different teams winning stage races 🤔
@MggW
@MggW 12 күн бұрын
Why does the Shimano power meter require a magnetic, but others, such as SRAM, don't need this? ##askgcntech
@richiejames928
@richiejames928 11 күн бұрын
Can’t see a pinny rollo wobbly tube winning the tour for the foreseeable future.
@gcntech
@gcntech 11 күн бұрын
You never know! Ineos have a strong team 🙌
@HuntShootOffroad
@HuntShootOffroad 11 күн бұрын
Skateboard griptape on the bottle cage...
@gcntech
@gcntech 11 күн бұрын
G is a secret skater 👀
@Timtimzi
@Timtimzi 12 күн бұрын
I thought Shimano PMs were notoriously known to be inaccurate. For a team obsessed w/ marginal gains, I guess they have to live w/ what their sponsor contracts tell them to use.
@bradrogers2427
@bradrogers2427 10 күн бұрын
You're right Shimano PM's are junk, but being sponsored by Shimano they don't have a choice.
@Gixer750pilot
@Gixer750pilot 11 күн бұрын
If the tyres don’t have a sticker or a name on them , what the hell do you line your valve up with ? 😱
@rkelner2167
@rkelner2167 11 күн бұрын
Valves are not lined up. That’s just a nice 😂
@savagepro9060
@savagepro9060 12 күн бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="131">2:11</a> Use-By Date, not Sell-By Date
@AK-je7ns
@AK-je7ns 12 күн бұрын
Shimano random power generator
@rappide
@rappide 11 күн бұрын
I see marketing guys pushing tubeless everywhere. Does any team still use tubulars? :)
@bradrogers2427
@bradrogers2427 10 күн бұрын
I don't think there are any teams still running tubulars in the TDF. I think there was a team or two that ran them in the classics. I think some of the Specialized teams have been running Turbo Cotton clinchers with latex tubes. Tubulars are slower than modern tubeless or clinchers
@MasterChicken81
@MasterChicken81 12 күн бұрын
how is it standing up? 🤯😂
@SpockCycles
@SpockCycles 12 күн бұрын
By The Balanced Motor in the Crank 😜
@hickory2918
@hickory2918 10 күн бұрын
@38 sec. You can just see clear plastic support under b. Bracket.
@BrightLight105
@BrightLight105 12 күн бұрын
is this the same Geraint Thomas that Ollie beat in a Zwift race once?
@gcntech
@gcntech 11 күн бұрын
The very same 😉
@erikmmartens
@erikmmartens 12 күн бұрын
Thought you was gonna mention ALL of them details and then you glossed over the grip tape inside the bottle cages 😞
@hikishi9479
@hikishi9479 12 күн бұрын
56х32 + 11х32 было бы лучше, разница в 16 зубов на переднем переключатель слишком мало нужно 20-28 зубов разницы
@FrikZz0r
@FrikZz0r 12 күн бұрын
I don't think tires come blacked out from factory, seems like bike mechanics just covered the logos with permanent market - possibly not to freely endorse Continental if they don't have sponsorship deal with them.
@bengt_axle
@bengt_axle 12 күн бұрын
So now you're comparing stem lengths and Gerraint's is 10 mm longer.
@andrewreid380
@andrewreid380 11 күн бұрын
Olly saids 185cm, Simon says 185cm. Simons alway's clearly taller next to Olly. What's going on there?
@Diego_Curcino
@Diego_Curcino 5 күн бұрын
It makes my heart ache to see a beautiful, expensive bike like that, all scratched up.
@MrJaycobsen
@MrJaycobsen 12 күн бұрын
After Dan's recent bike video I gotta say I'm disappointed in this one. You need to up your game, where are the measurements Ollie?
@paulgrimshaw8334
@paulgrimshaw8334 11 күн бұрын
Given all the “games” in cycling (including head games), it wouldn’t surprise me if bikes making it to journalists contained a few things that wouldn’t be run in actual competition. I mean, if you were a competitive cyclist operating at that level, would you let a bunch of strangers have at your bike while you were dozing off in the team van? A bike that you’d be running the next day (or any non-training day)? Probably not. But your sponsor might like to prep a “press bike” for marketing purposes. Just sayin…
@stevec6232
@stevec6232 12 күн бұрын
No wax chain???
@gcntech
@gcntech 12 күн бұрын
They need to start watching GCN Tech!
@justinlangley3432
@justinlangley3432 12 күн бұрын
Pretty surprised by that.
@petersouthernboy6327
@petersouthernboy6327 12 күн бұрын
Chain wax is overrated
@justinlangley3432
@justinlangley3432 11 күн бұрын
@@petersouthernboy6327 That'll be why it's so popular with the pros I guess.
@fyahwerks
@fyahwerks 11 күн бұрын
Don't see myself riding such a narrow handle bar
@gregbianchi2689
@gregbianchi2689 11 күн бұрын
I like my F8 better
@toddh4491
@toddh4491 12 күн бұрын
So much money and no results. Woof.
@Alfadrottning86
@Alfadrottning86 12 күн бұрын
soo, no one has found hidden motors yet? - also the sound of the spinning wheel .. very nice. no rattle, no strange clicking .. but what else can one expect from a bike that costs more than my car x2 (probably x3)
@livegamingyt2833
@livegamingyt2833 12 күн бұрын
agree
@liamc8085
@liamc8085 12 күн бұрын
It's pretty impossible to get away with those motors in a race as huge as the TDF. The UCI/TDF organizers have thermal cameras and magnetic testing. Also the top stage winner bikes all get x rayed tested for motors. It would be far easier to get away with expensive untestable designer PEDs in such a large event. Motors would work better for more amateur events where there is far less scrutiny.
@aboomination897
@aboomination897 12 күн бұрын
Disgusting...price tag.
@petersouthernboy6327
@petersouthernboy6327 12 күн бұрын
It wasn’t made for you.
@savagepro9060
@savagepro9060 12 күн бұрын
@@petersouthernboy6327 as if it were made for YOU, You're not even a dentist, You're the dentist's client
@notpablo8369
@notpablo8369 11 күн бұрын
​@@savagepro9060 peter's a lawyer
@christophertan3195
@christophertan3195 11 күн бұрын
cry cry i can't afford the top spec bike
@petersouthernboy6327
@petersouthernboy6327 11 күн бұрын
@@christophertan3195 car guys will read a review on the Porsche GT3 and admire the car. Bike guys will piss and moan about the price of an S-Works SL-8 or Dogma F. No understanding of how halo models work in branding.
@keagandevilliers2832
@keagandevilliers2832 11 күн бұрын
funny how non waxed chains are now suddenly “disappointing” since the silica sponsorship. but all the years when gcn was sponsored by muc-off, then “oil” was best
@ekm3820
@ekm3820 12 күн бұрын
They keep making it ugly
@RichardGlazer
@RichardGlazer 12 күн бұрын
Looks like they've done the same thing with the logos as tyre manufacturers do with tyre pressure info by making steath and bloody unreadable!
@richardburgess5865
@richardburgess5865 11 күн бұрын
Prefer the blue but either way it’s still the ugliest bike in the pro-peloton!
@astrayagrarian
@astrayagrarian 11 күн бұрын
So dissapointing to see how awful modern road bikes have become :(
@EdwardTBurke-pv3qr
@EdwardTBurke-pv3qr 5 күн бұрын
After a wait of eight months, finally received my (2013/2014) Dogma F frameset in speedster silver. Built it up with Campagnolo Super Record wireless components and Campagnolo Shamal carbon wheels. Vittoria Corsa N.EXT 700 x 28 tubeless tyres. The more I look at my new bike, the more beautiful I think it looks. The technology and form of bikes has evolved enormously in the last twenty years. When I was a teenager in 1970, I was bicycling across Europe, staying in Youth Hostels. There is no way I would want to do any serious cycling now at my advanced age on the Peugeot or Gitaine of my youth. I hope (and God willing) to still be enjoying riding my Dogma F twenty years from now.
@sixxftundr
@sixxftundr 11 күн бұрын
Honestly, most dont give a shite what the pros ride...and most of us do not dope
@K114LED
@K114LED 12 күн бұрын
Those wheels are rubbish!
@derekcranson2307
@derekcranson2307 12 күн бұрын
They are terrible, heavy and use to true the rear wheel every 2 weeks.
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