lots of big empty words popular right-wing intellectual cynic is alphabet soup to me. She's been on the planet a long time, has thought long and hard about issues, deserves to be heard; left right what good does this kind of categorization do ultimately? She said a lot of things that made a lot of people uncomfortable, that much is clear. Hope when I reach her age I have that kind of clear head and nuanced thinking and sheer bravery to speak out against any strong tide that sweeps people along and prevents them from thinking for themselves. The audience behaved disgracefully.

You're being sarcastic...right?

not funny. Getting worse.

Yep getting worse

For me it lasted 2 minutes, fast forwarded and all was well; not aware of any fundamental issues except amateur recording; an issue definitely worth addressing. I was profoundly disappointed with the audience so perhaps you didn't miss much.

The front and centre audio channels are missing but the side channels are there. Try a different set of speakers maybe.

I can hear it with the ear phones on.

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whom are you addressing certainly not Germaine Greer who arrived and spoke in good faith. The audience was infantile and pathetic.

***** cannot hear it on my computer...I SURELY HOPE THIS NOT NOPLATFORMING

Fast forward 2 min and all is well; if you lasted this long you would have realized that, the least of the problems encountered with a brave woman with nuanced ideas ganged up on deliberately by members of the audience. Shameful behaviour beneath contempt.

They probably earned some brownie points from their "community" for "sticking it to her" .. disgusting...

Saving a rain Forest.

need a gap decade. at least. a gap rest of life?

+borredDead It will never happen and SHOULD not. We already have too many.

Cloning? Are we watching Junior the movie

borrodDead, I agree with you that the quality of the talk went down as she talked about the trans community. How can transpeople be disproportionatly targeted for violent crime and there not be transphobia? How can she say they want to act feminin like their being bullied so much for who they are is a choice? How can she, on the one hand say transwomen are not real women because being a real woman is hard yet precisely claim transitioning is so unadvisable because it's hard? We get it Germain, life is hard. How can she say trans people, as a whole, are deleuded like she knows them. Deleuded people believe one thing regardless of the evidence proving otherwise. Trans women know they have or had a penis. But there is no proof against the fact that their gender contradicting their sex is a deleusion, much less reason to insinuate such a thing. Plus, who said she has to agree that the trans community are sane and female when all she was asked to do was explain why she believed such a thing, before she started playing the victim on the bases that women born with penus' need permition to be what they are from those born without?

@@ericme4767 you will just have to get over the fact that she has no interest in the tiny% of men who want to cut their cocks off and put lipstick on. In the big picture it us of minuscule importance.

@@ericme4767 I think it's not about what you say, I think it's about how many men that transition into being women take on this parody of being feminine that is basically what women who are "castrated" are doing too. She refers to the infantile submissive behaviour of overt femininity as a kind of castration of women. So she is referring to that too. It's not about saying they can't transition. She also says there can be alternatives to having these irreversible operations followed by years of taking heavy hormones and medication. She doesn't hate trans people. You need to listen to her without emotion and take it in as logic.

Is being a woman just a feeling? I feel I'm a woman so I am a woman? It seems like a great deal of male privilege being exercised that we must go along with his feelings, disregarding what actual woman feel about that.

There is a difference between gender as a social construction and the way we categorise sex organs in biological terms. Once upon a time Germaine herself was big on that distinction. The problem is that “actual women” (by which I assume you mean people born with female sex organs) are about half of humanity; diverse individuals with very different opinions. The discomfort or disgust of some of those individuals is not a verdict from the group, and should not be the basis of policy. I am not excessively interested in whether other people’s genitalia align with my assumptions based on their gender presentation. Suggesting trans people only “feel like a women” demonstrates that you’re being flippant, not that trans gender identity is arbitrary. Throwing out the male privilege card is a bad faith argument.

Transsexual people should be protected and respected, but I don't think one gets to mess with other people's identities in the process of sorting out his or her own. Notice when women disagree with the new orthodoxy, they are dealt with in a misogynistic way. Look at the epithets JK Rowling has had thrown at her - pure misogyny. Meanwhile, the former Bruce Jenner is named Woman of the Year by Glamour Magazine, with all the glammy goodies and size 17 JImmy Choos. It's nonsense. Adolescents, with underdeveloped prefrontal cortices are being experimented on, as if there is no such thing as unforeseen consequences. They are the thalidomide babies of this post-modern morass of nonsense.

Your not old enough to understand. Message us when you turn 40.

@@katkatkatkat463 Male privilege is exactly the point here. This is a "debate" about men pushing in to women's spaces. The ultimate in male penetration. Only YES means YES. You don't just get to "identify" into a group that you do not belong to just because you think or wish you did. Only women are women.

Get help.

what country is this ingenious place?

Contempt for working class women and mothers? Did you not hear her go over that case of the women with 8 children...surely a working class woman that was?

@@CelineOracle Perhaps she didn't watch? LOL. I agree: she showed great compassion for the poor woman and wondered why other feminists and female journalists didn't question the narrative pushed by the male dominated media during the trial.

+Ian Williams Ah shaddup.

Her point is that mot nearly enough attention is paid to the lives of old women, to the point that one man was able to kill 150 of them until he was caught.

+ Ian Williams, you are a moron with no empathy, who hurt you when you were young?

If old men had died at the rate that these old women had, with the same doctor being at the scene for these deaths, someone would have questioned the deaths and perhaps spared the lives of countless others.

You are so deprived I feel so sorry for you