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You would need to pull some magical victory off in order for germany to succesfully invade england in 1940 XD

Well... a succesfull invasion and victory over GB would have been bloody to say the least. And it would have taaken time i guess it would end in a horribly weakened germany getting steamrolled by stalin in summer 1942

If D-Day was lost, nothing would change really, Germany was already collapsing to the Soviets, and the Italian Campaign was succeeding for Britain. But it could end up making Places like France Communist, and etc.

Thrawn BAYERN D-day would be kinda impossible if the UK is under Nazi rule

England is a very hard nut to crack militarily but they are extremely paranoid about spies and terrorists so you could tear them apart from the inside, like what ISIS tried to do. It is the fact that the United Kingdom as a whole lives in a stable but precarious situation. United they are invincible to everything but if you reignite old wounds they beat each other senseless

Oh yes!

First to reply even after 3 years

Michael Burrows He is talking about a battle in which the Fallschirmjäger (German military parachutists) are involved

Michael Burrows No problem. They're actually very interesting and you should look them up.

Starring ...Max Schmeling ?

Canada went to war with Japan due to the bombing of Pearl Harbor, Hong Kong and Malaya. As a matter of fact Canada lost troops on day 1 due to the attack on Hong Kong. So there wouldn't be much difference in that sense.

sounds like the book 1945

Gott mit Uns not true. It only makes it easier as a machine gun with a narrow cone to fill in can cause extreme havoc. If a machine gun has to spread its arc across a large area, it’s effectiveness is severely reduced as it cannot suppress as effectively. It’s why you always flank a machine gun to its sides. If you spread out, it has a harder time getting all of you or is forced to focus on one group, meaning the other group can move up and take it out. But if it only has to focus on a small area to suppress, then it can literally mow down everyone. That design does no favors.

Probably because it wouldn't work as a waterbourne craft

Dan Lorenzana It was the only logical option, you couldn't have the ramp behind the ship, or on the sides, the original version of the Higgins boats didn't have a ramp the troops just jumped over the side but during testing it showed limbs would be broken and people would drown

Why not send it through the back? Just have it open towards the rear sides or allow them to squeeze through 1 by 1. Even then the casualty rate would be significantly lower.

Shitty Mem's It wasn't more sophisticated, it still has a front ramp that funneled troops forwards

erick d agreed xd

Here, let me correct that for you. 'Oh I do say, the Hun are nearing the beaches. Wait, what is that? Are they...are they in barges being pulled by tugboats?' There's a pause as medics treat those who nearly pass out from laughing. 'Break out the tea lads and pass the crumpets, this is going to be a spiffingly good show. Let's three cheers for the Royal Navy!' Cheers ring out as Royal Navy start the process of sending a hundred thousand Germans to drown in the channel.

*laughs in British*

Jerry? On the kings beaches? Oh my, no this will not do, lets give them a bloody good hiding lads! Tally-ho!!!

They've taken out some of our tanks. Bally nuisance, just isn't cricket, eh what!

Midlands/Northern Translation: "Ayup, who're these cunts? Cheeky Bastards reckon' they can storm our beaches! Let's fuckin' 'ave' em, lads!"

where you upload your maps dude?

Steam Workshop

I see you live in the north South Germany has 40 Celsius in the Summer and beautiful snow in the Winter!!! GOTT MIT DIR DU LAND DER BAYERN DEUTSCHE ERDE VATERLAND!!

Shitty Mem's at least I don't live in New Mexico in the USA where God laughs at weathermen I mean it guessing weather is like guessing 200 sided dice blindfolded and drunk

Shitty Mem's no you don't understand about 3 years ago in July there was a blizzard like 8 inch snow when the other day it just went from 70 degrees Fahrenheit and about a year ago my dad just started working for the train station the where winds blowing over trains left and right

Shitty Mem's bei uns im Norden regnets ständig

Ireland in a nutshell

User Name I don't think you can on MOW:AS2

@@kapitankapital6580 Naval units are only for cinematics atleast in 2020

martywigman 734 lol more like 4:46 thats when he unload troops

martywigman 734 p

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Andrew Yancik US Marines? In 1940...?

James Hartley I was thinking maybe the United States in a theoretical scenario could have some men stationed in England for training, just in case the Germans invaded and the British needed some back up. I realize the timeline doesn’t work for having marines there because the US wasn’t involved in the war until after Pearl Harbor

I want to make that, but making an English village and especially London would be really hard because all the buildings in the editor cater to French, German, and Russian architecture. England's buildings look different and I would want to make it as authentic as possible, I don't just want it to look like another random "village battle" map.

Andrew Yancik Can we just leave America out for once!

James Hartley yeah it would probably be for the best if the US was left out of the scenario

not really...it would be a slaughter...nothing short of a Tiger Tank could stand up to the M1A1's, and the Japanese would be destroyed...they had shitty tanks, the planes would be shot out of the sky, their ships blown out of the water from miles away, without even a cannon round being fired...while it could be funny...it would not be entertaining

Even a tiger wouldn't stand much of a chance, the Maus might be able to annoy a M1A1, but like Jesse said, not entertaining.

william lydon. Lol it would be one-sided war despite technology & skill difference.

I don't even thing a maus could do anything to an M1A1 considering the insane amount of penetration that the modern rounds have, not to mention the armor on an Abrams is pretty close to a foot thick on the front.

Tiger would not stand up to an M1A1 either. Even the Maus would be obliterated as if it was a sardine can.

Mat Cauthon if we can’t stay here alive, then let us stay here dead

Microsoftman404 oh hey

Microsoftman404 Great War realism if my fav mod :)

Microsoftman404 Tipical moron. Remember Italy won the war piece of shit.

What the hell is up your ass? A serrated bayonet?

I like how he called you a "tipical moron" Microsoftman, 1 it's typical and 2 they stood no chance on their own, the United States won the damn war because the Entente was about to surrender, with Russia gone the German army was moving full west. So get that serrated bayonet out of your ass.

Rest and Recovery or rest and relaxation many different options with mostly the same meaning

it means rearm and recover

Well, the actual definition of it is rest and relaxation, but anything with an r in front of it is fair game I guess.

Rest in Reserve.

I wonder, how many meanings we will get like this, keep going people!

Yep and they're too slow and would simply be destroyed by Royal Navy warships and RAF aircraft. But even if the Germans were successful in invading parts of Britain, The Royal Navy would block German supply ships and RAF would shot down supply planes. I think that may be why bombers were needed to destroy RAF airfields and they failed thanks to Hitler's order to destroy London thus diverting bombers from airfield to the capital and this gave the pilots time to rest then shot down more bombers over London on Sept 15th. Hitler postponed the invasion the next month. The 2 prototypes landing crafts were developed by the Americans, not Germans and used in many allied operations against both the Germans and the Japanese like in the D-Day operation.

They would have probably used something like a Siemens Ferry

@@DavBlc7 if you see a german trooper in england there is no more raf lol

@@jayfelsberg1931 not enough of them though and most of the German invasion was on river barges which would sink in slightly choppy waves.

And made good targets to practice close-air-ground on, @@Historyfan476AD

Jerold Productions mg42s - German browning- American

Captured Equipment from Dunkerke

The point is the weapons on the boats are of allied origin not mg42s or earlier versions. Maybe from dunkerke

Its because the Germans did not have any dedicated landing craft. Problem nr 1 for any idiot who thinks Germany could have invaded Britain...

Jerold Productions german brownimg machine guns....

Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus actually when Trafalgar happened the coalition already forced the french to concentrate all of their forces on the war on land, Trafalgar or not the result would have bin the same...

matthieu GA So what are you saying exactly? Are you saying If Napoleon defeated the Royal Navy then landed on Britain, Napoleons army would have been defeated? So Trafalgar is not that important to Britain maintaining it's sovereignty since the British army would have defeated Napoleon anyways, Trafalgar or not? Napoleon had a far larger army, largest amount of field artillery and Napoleon would have lead his forces himself, which of course was the most dangerous out of them all. The British army was no match 1 v 1 against Napoleon at this point (and through out the war since Napoleon won the vast majority of Battles he personally commanded himself) hence the fact for coalitions and numerous coalitions for that matter throughout the entire war, to slowly wipe out his other forces commanded by his generals, not by him. The coalition made it clear to not openly engage forces led by the Emperor himself but to fight his generals to weaken the overall French Grande Armee. 1805 was in Napoleons favor in land combat and the British high command understood that, so they made sure the Emperor did not get a chance to land on Britain, for if he did then he would have conquered Britain. That is why the Battle of Trafalgar is our most important battle( voted by our people and our historians), as it is the battle that could have ended us if we had lost it (Battle of Britain comes second for the same reasons). The French navy never recovered after that battle. So now Britain could take the war forward knowing it's island is protected from further possible invasion and the Emperor is now forced to stay on mainland Europe to fight. and Britain can take it to him, with their multiple coalitions.

market garden took place over a large area would be hard to get all the bridges in a single map. it was like 7 battles all alone a single road.

And it was a complete allied disaster

Everyone doesn't need to like a video

Brock Gundich could they fuck as we all know the bloody British would sacrifice every man woman and tea bag to protect the fat bloke in the castle ( the king)

Brock Gundich The Germans never had the ability to invade the UK, the Germans had few dedicated landing craft and were gonna use river barges to land vehicles and men, plus the fact the U-boats would've also been in range of the RAF and wouldn't be able to target battleships

I guess R&R could also be Rest and Refit.

omfg, how do people like you exist... Ok, let me put this as simple as possible for you to understand. U-boats cannot sink ships. Yes, they can sink defenseless Merchantmen. And yes, they can sink warships. But they can only strike with the element of surprise. Once they fire those torpedoes, if they don't run away they are fucked. And neither could they fight effectively against destroyers who were increasingly being designed to sink them. So let's imagine your hypothetical scenario. German invasion has begun. Rickety barges slowly cross the channel. Their protection? A few light ships of the Kriegsmarine, nothing heavier than a light cruiser. Nothing heavy because at this point most of your fantasy battleships are blockaded in ports by the Royal Navy or have been sunk. The Germans have also scrounged together a few U-Boats. The Luftwaffe, drained by commitments in Operation Barbarossa and it's repeated defeats in trying to takes the skies of Britain, can barely scrounge a few squadrons. Suddenly, the Home Fleet appears on the horizon. British intelligence knew about the invasion the minute the Further ordered preparations be made. Their attempts to hide the invasion from them and the French resistance was laughable. The troops in the barges panic. A few overturn, simply being river barges, and not used to the swell of the rougher Channel. Already the fleet has opened fire and is sending boats by the dozen to the bottom. Thousands are already dead. The Kriegsmarine moves in. Admiral Brock Gundich assured them that the U-Boats were more than a match for any surface ship. They fire, a few ships are sunk. A cheer rings out. However the Home Fleet is the largest fleet on the planet in the largest navy on the planet. It easily bears such losses. Destroyer squadrons move in. The U-Boats have nowhere to run. Both sides of the Channel are blocked. A dozen subs sink the the bottom as they are located and destroyed piecemeal. In the air above another battle is taking place between the Luftwaffe and the RAF. The Luftwaffe can do nothing against the Royal Navy. They have only managed to sink a few destroyers as they have no dedicated anti ship planes or weaponry, the best they can muster is dive bombers. The RAF manages to push them back, aided by the supportive anti aircraft fire of the Navy below. The Luftwaffe falls back in retreat. Now nothing stands between the Royal Navy and the transports of the German troops. And the slaughter begins. Because sending a hundred thousand to the bottom of the channel and be called nothing else, not when they've been sent their on the orders of a Wehraboo who thought that U-boats were somehow the only cover the invasion needed and would be more than a match for the largest fleet on the planet.

The ridiculousness of this scenario has already been pointed out, so I'll just contribute a fun fact. During the early years of the war Britain actually destroyed large numbers of their major ports and roads leading from them in order to prevent the Germans from parachuting or landing a small force, capturing a major port and then shipping in large quantities of supplies. Any German force that did land in the UK, as for example the video shows, would soon find itself surrounded, cut off from supplies and forced to surrender.

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ValkCorgi you want to know how desperate sea lion was even Hitler thought it was a bad idea

ValkCorgi The Luftwaffe didn't have the weapons to destroy battleships and heavy ships until late in the war

Shitty Mem's not really in a concentrated fleet like battleships or carriers

Maybe, and that was a very long shot. The only good thing to come from it could have been the German U-Boats and Navy along with the Luftwaffe causing heavy losses to the RAF and the British Royal Navy, But at what cost?.

Watch military history visualized or alternate history hub's video on operation sea lion and it becomes apparent how nearly impossible it would be to invade Britain.

Even if the Germans did not 'invade', they could have tied down the British for far longer is they had landed some troops, maybe not enough to take over, but certainly enough to cause extreme amounts of havoc.

With what? Germany did not even have dedicated landing craft.

ComradeVlad After ww2 there was a table top war games using real plans and real war commanders. Britain basically built nothing but artillery after Dunkirk. Massive country wide "stop lines" of artillery were created that the Germans just couldn't breach. They wouldn't have a solid air or sea lane to transport supplies. Every cenario ended with a German defeat though a sizable beach head was always achieved. Britain knew it couldn't stop a landing so never intended to... All mass landings succeed so plan was to wear them down with big guns on land and from sea.

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FÜR DAS VATERLAND!

1EPICGAMER 1 Paratroopers would have made sense, but the Kreigsmarine definitely had the means to have an effective beach landing. Also, the war was over in 1945, so maybe youre thinking 1939? That wouldve been a little stretch tho

As in, thinking ahead of time? Because he was dead far before that (if you actually believe that happened)

Devo Zanzibar I'm not sure if he's uneducated or a troll

*Facepalm HE HAD FUTURE PLANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

'49? FOURTY NINE? Wat I hope you meant 39.

>so they don't have an army to defend Even if the entire force in Dunkirk was destroyed the Germans would still have quite a number of Army Divisions in Britain to deal with along with the British Homeguard that numbers in well over a million >win the battle of britain The Battle of Britain was doomed to fail because of various different factors even if the Germans didn't do the dumb decision to attack civilian targets. Who knew its really hard to fight effectively when the British can literally detect the German planes taking off from their bases in France with their radar >drop paratroopers You mean that 1 paratrooper division Germany had along with that normal Wehrmacht division given airborne equipment without training? Good luck with that against an enemy's mainland that isn't some poor Scandinavian country you decided to surprise attack >take a port Again, good luck with that against over a million enemy troops garrisoned in various ports But let's say those 2 divisions manage to land successfully and despite all odds take a port, what now? The British Navy is still a thing and they'll just be starved out in whatever port they captured >bring in naval troops On what? row boats and river barges? The Germans had no dedicated landing vehicles or craft and the best thing the command can come up is using Rhine river barges to across the Channel because surely using river barges is a good idea in a the much more rough and active English Channel Not only that but the British had countless small naval vessels that can be put to harassing and attacking any barge or boat that tries to cross even if we completely disregard the Royal Navy >use the Luffwaffe to keep the Royal Navy out of the Channel Oh yes, the Luffwaffe that had no dedicated naval aircraft and wings, no training or doctrine regarding bombing naval vessels and so far a poor tract record regarding attacking enemy ships is going to be able to keep the Royal Navy out of the Channel. I could go on but honestly I think that's enough

You clearly no nothing about this > the Germans have a large paratroop core by this time paratroops played a key role in the blitzkrieg they where used with great success during the invasion of the low country and Poland. > the home guard was mostly boys and old men pretty much the volkssturm but worse they didn't even have enough weapons or gear for them all. >the Germans had a lot of small naval craft what they lacked was battleships they pretty much had everything else even then they could use cargo subs to bring troops in to the port yes the Germans had cargo subs >do you forget what sank the Yamato aircraft strafing it most of the carrier planes that attacked it where fighters. > the Germans had a lot of bombers and torpedo craft that they used to drive the royal nave from Norway so yes it is proven that the Luftwaffe can push the royal navy back >the Germans were moments away from wining the battle of Britain several times they where destroying British airfields and aircraft fast than they could be produced. key point the Germans had a massive war machine behind them if the wanted to take the island they could have

The total number of paratroopers of the Luftwaffe was around 14.000 men however during the invasion of crete they increased the number to 28.000 troops(they used mountain troops) but they paradroped about 22.000 with the help of Italians.And even if they are paradroped on British soild and they capture 1 single harbour.Itll be rendered inoperable by the defenders so that they cant use it as a landing point. Yes the home guard had less training and was worse equiped than the germans however you need to keep in mind that the germans were doing an landing operationg would be a big disavantage for germans.To get what im talking it took allies years and years of preparation ships and planning for D-day and still they were afraid it will fail.The german didnt even had adequate landing ships for an land invasion and their armies had little experience with land invasion so when they arive on UK shore they'll have a hard time. The small naval craft is practicaly useless for an land invasion.For the suport of auxiliary and transport ships you need Destroys,Cruisers and Battleships for protection of it.Uboats are good at attacking transport ships not defending it.And how are cargo subs usefull?They transport capacity is limited as it can take so few soldiers on it and lets not talk about suplies... Its useless to compare Yamamoto to Bristish ships because the aircraft used to sink it were aircraft planes.These planes were made to fight agaisnt ships not unlike Me 109, He111 and Ju 87 that weren't made to engaje ships and the torpedo boats were too few in numbers and itll have a hard time against Royal Navy.And lets talk about the huge size of the Royal Navy which could take losses except the germans which needed every ship they had.They can damage the royal navy?Yes.They can push it back?No.

Sos Damn how do you think the Germans sank ships during the Dunkirk evac they used those exact planes a bomb is a bomb and ships at this point had no anti air protection sure they had a few AA guns but they had little to no armor on the deck

Dunkirk is a bad example as most ships were civilain or merchant ships and Royal Navy deployed only 1 cruiser,36 destroyers and some gunboats and corvettes no other big ship was used because of shallow waters and there were over 600 civilian ships.Of this number the cruiser was damaged(not sure if it was because of a luftwaffe attack or that it colided with another ship.) and 6 destroyers sunk so using Dunkirk is not a good example.

James Ryan probably but they invade Russia because of Russia resource that they need to invade Britain

No one captures Russia in the wintertime, unless you’re the mongals.

They made one mistake: Russia

Agent Mullin mongal tage

It wasn't as straightforward as that. A sea invasion would have been incredibly fraught - they did not have air superiority because Goering was a tactical moron, and the Kriegsmarine was massively outgunned and outnumbered by the Royal Navy. There is then the problem of supply lines.

Viktor Wasielewski Its 1940, Not 1944. 1940 was a whole other Situation, in the late Summer, the Luftwaffe was about to Beat the RAF by bombing the airfields and plane Factories, for every Spitfire Germany had 3 Messerschmitt Fighter Planes, also france just surrendered and the coastal positions at cherbourgh, la Rochelle and Brest were perfect for German submarines and the Rest of the navy. USA still was neutral and the soviets (kinda) Allied with Germany. Germany also occupied Norway and sweden, and the submarines sunk more and more ships after each month, it was the "Golden time" for the Submarine fleet It was a Close call, brits nearly lost the Battle of britian. Also the Kriegsmarine didnt had to Beat Britian with the navy, the submarines we're about to Cut every supply they get by sea, they would Just starved and had No Oil to operate with ships or Planes. speaking of expierince in amphibious warfare; Germany occupied many Islands and Landscape by sea During the 1917/1918 uprise in Russia, Operation Albion ist the best example. The US took notes of this for Normandy, because they had No expierince in amphibious warfare aswell.

And you think that a naval invasion that took years for two of the greatest naval powers on Earth to plan and execute could have been done by a second-rate naval power on a whim? Without any large scale preparation? The U-boats mainly sunk merchant ships, and they did not manage to stave the Brits into surrender despite several great successes early on. The British actually replaced the lost shipping at a remarkable speed and even managed to outproduce the tonnage lost when much more effective ASW systems and tactics were developed later on. And the Battle of Britain was not a close call, it was a decisive British victory. In september of 1940 the Luftwaffe thought it had brought the RAF down to 177 operational fighters while in reality the British actually had over 570 operational fighters remaining, about 300% higher than the German estimate. The Luftwaffe then started to strike industrial facilities and C3I sites. The target switch from airfields to other installations was indeed an error by the Germans but much less significant than many think. If they had continued to strike the airfields the Luftwaffe would still have lost, just less quickly and less badly. Even if by some miracle the Germans would have won in the skies, in summer 1940 they only had 3 cruisers and 4 destroyers operational in the region. The British RN Home Fleet had 5 Capital Ships/1 Carrier/11 Cruisers/8 Destroyers. In addition to this the Germans had no really tested amphibious assault equipment, had nowhere near the needed experience and no amphibious logistics systems to speak of. And we all know how much trouble the Allies had during the planning and execution of the Normandy Landings, even when they had all the things above that the Germans sorely lacked in 1940. Like I said, Seelöwe was a fantasy.