Germany's THREE Surrenders

Germany's THREE Surrenders - VE-Day Special

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Жыл бұрын

The German surrender was no easy ride - it took THREE separate surrender ceremonies before the war came officially to an end on this day 78 years ago. Find out the full story here...
Dr. Mark Felton FRHistS, FRSA, is a well-known British historian, the author of 22 non-fiction books, including bestsellers 'Zero Night' and 'Castle of the Eagles', both currently being developed into movies in Hollywood. In addition to writing, Mark also appears regularly in television documentaries around the world, including on The History Channel, Netflix, National Geographic, Quest, American Heroes Channel and RMC Decouverte. His books have formed the background to several TV and radio documentaries. More information about Mark can be found at: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Fe...
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Sources:
- 'The Three Surrenders', Military Histories, www.militaryhistories.co.uk/s...
- 'Armageddon: The Battle for Germany', 1944-1945 by Sir Max Hastings (Random House: 2004)
- 'The Last 100 Days' by John Toland, (Arthur Baker: 1965)
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@mikewhitcomb6558 Жыл бұрын

I was watching the news this morning, and they had a WW2 veteran on the program, but not just any vet. He is the last surviving person to witness the surrender of Germany, and in fact was the soldier that escorted the Germans into Ike's chambers after they signed the surrender documents. His name is Louis Graziano, 100 years old.

@lyndonwatson757 Жыл бұрын

A hero!!!

@user-by7ug6js4f Жыл бұрын

I saw the same show gb graziano

@debrakleid5752 Жыл бұрын

Oh wow. That’s really neat. Not many WW2 vets left and my dad served for 26 years in the military and served in the Vietnam War and retired as a major in the USAF. He died on 02/23/21 from leukemia. A few headstones down is a vet who served in WW2 and since then several more are in his section. Sometimes I lay flowers in front of my dads headstone as well as some others especially if they died the same day (not necessarily the same year) as many don’t get visitors. That WW2 vet that died I like to lay a flower or a penny at his headstone. In the next few years like the WW1 vets all of the WW2 vets will be gone and god willing we won’t have a repeat of WW2.

@64maxpower Жыл бұрын

I like that you do that with the flowers

@tessat338 11 ай бұрын

I love hearing how people who survived a very dangerous time then go on to live very long lives in spite of all the effort others took to try to kill them!

@mrjoba3208 Жыл бұрын

To think if Steiner actually attacked we’d all be speaking German today.

@brandonmoses1698 Жыл бұрын

Cross of Iron Steiner?

@iffipifi1 Жыл бұрын

He did attack eventually. There's great video of Mark Felton on that too

@brandonmoses1698 Жыл бұрын

James Coburn did not though

@ManannanmacLir69 Жыл бұрын

You would better for it.

@ruberxwibebadhi Жыл бұрын

i am sorry is this a troll comment? what is this talking about? how exactly could germany win the war in 1945 even if "steiner attacked" and how would it go?

@adamcarlile5909 Жыл бұрын

I have the original photograph of the second angle taken with Field Marshall Montgomery and the surrender of North West Germany and Denmark as my Great Uncle was friends with the photographer and as a gift he gave it to him after the war. So cool to have such a special artefact in my family's possession.

@hart648 Жыл бұрын

Post it on r/ww2. I'm sure everyone would find that cool like me

@moistbuttmonkey Жыл бұрын

AMAZING!!!

@LadyFairChildVideo Жыл бұрын

submit it to the national archive, german national government or smithsonian. either way don't keep it any more. since current generations are about interested in world war 2 as , zero.

@davidschaadt3460 Жыл бұрын

🏆

@ytsux9259 Жыл бұрын

I'll buy it for 5 bucks!

@ronniecoleman2342 Жыл бұрын

Eight years ago today we buried my father on VE Day. I took the time today, May 8th, 2023 to watch this excellent video and remember him. His father and uncle both fought in WW2 in Germany and France. Thank you for helping keep these events and memories alive.

@painterboy454 Жыл бұрын

My father-in-law just past in March just before his 93rd birthday. He lived in occupied Holland and was liberated by Canadian troops. He remembers when the war ended...when he woke up and there was nothing but silence. No planes, no vehicle or troop movements, just silence. The day was May 7.

@mobilant1 Жыл бұрын

@@painterboy454 You mean the poor occupied dutch which went after the war directly back to their colonies? Some people see really one side of a coin...

@painterboy454 Жыл бұрын

@@mobilant1, he was a child and went and settled in Canada the home of his liberators. Don't be a fool of things you have no knowledge.

@TimPerfetto Жыл бұрын

Eight years ago today we buried my father in Germany and France.

@mobilant1 Жыл бұрын

@@painterboy454 You started with occupied Holland and not your father -in-law. BTW doesn't matter because the Dutch were busy to grab the colonies back from the Japanese and not your father-in-law, right?

@MrPlankinton Жыл бұрын

I never realized how so many Germans owe their lives to Admiral Dönitz

@maciejniedzielski7496 Жыл бұрын

Actually he (Doenitz) overated himself after the war. He ordered evacuation of military material and personal and... Civilians if it doesn't disturb military evacuation. Local commandants often disobeyed that and evacuated civilians at same time

@maciejniedzielski7496 Жыл бұрын

After war Doenitz autocrated himself as Savor of East Prussia

@MrPlankinton Жыл бұрын

@@maciejniedzielski7496 good point, however, soldiers did ultimately become civilians instead of slaves in Russia where they would have been kept until the mid 1950s to die by the scores of thousands. Civilians at the time, were not transported off the Russia, and while suffering in Germany, they were still safer than men under arms. It was a 'tight-rope' act for certain, but, again, saved millions of men.

@aleksazunjic9672 Жыл бұрын

Well, actually thousands of Germans lost their lives in that evacuation, and later starving to death in western parts of Germany. They actually would have better chance with Soviets, especially civilians.

@MrPlankinton Жыл бұрын

@@aleksazunjic9672 and yet Germans believed, unequivocally, they would be better off with the Western powers. Hmmm. The Berlin airlift tends to dampen your theory somewhat.

@warrenlodge6754 Жыл бұрын

The interpreter (in the main pic between Monty and the German was Captain Derek Knee. He was an intelligence officer. He lived till about 2012. I was fortunate enough to be part of the nursing team that looked after him in his last few years. Dementia had robbed him of his ability to recollect anything. He had French relatives that visited him regularly and his French was wonderful.

@jebbroham1776 Жыл бұрын

The French to Germany at the end of WW1: "surrender in this rail car" The Germans to France in 1940: "Surrender in this rail car and become our puppet" The Allies to Germany in 1945: "Surrender to us three different times, just so you know we're serious".

@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623 Жыл бұрын

More like it shows how fragmented the German high command and forces had become. And that the Germans tried to play the Western Allies against the Soviets, with success initially as seen with the 1st surrender. There was no plan to make them surrender 3 times. Just the chaos of the moment.

@davidschaadt3460 Жыл бұрын

Hitler had the Railcar destroyed,",Just in Case".

@BlackFlag1719 Жыл бұрын

Maybe everyone was thinking of how WWI ended. General Pershing expressed concerns that the Germans didn't believe they were beaten, and the Allies would have to to do it all again someday. So in 1945 they rammed the point home not once, but three times.

@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623 Жыл бұрын

@@michaelpielorz9283 An economic miracle only made possible by American money and the US, UK and France teaming their occupation zones together and letting the Germans have another go at it. If each of those countries had said nice, but we ain't letting you play there would have been 4 Germany's and no economic miracle.

@miguelservetus9534 Жыл бұрын

@@michaelpielorz9283 The economic revival of the Western part of Germany was in no small part due to the beneficence of the Western Allies. No shade on the German effort but there is a perfect control group in the East.

@frasermitchell9183 Жыл бұрын

On the 9th May my father, serving as a radio mechanic with 139 Wing 2nd Tactical Airforce, was at Achmer aerodrome, near Osnabruck. All the techicians were formed up in front of B25 Mitchell bomber for a photograph. I still have that photograph. Shortly after, in early June, my father was given leave to return to England to marry my mother.

@MrHiBeta Жыл бұрын

Thanks for remembering, Mark. The generation who celebrated VE Day without fail every year has long left us.

@henryrollins9177 Жыл бұрын

Not in Russia, you should move there to be safe...

@wessexdruid7598 Жыл бұрын

@@henryrollins9177 Given the average life expectancy in Russia, you don't have many left...

@henryrollins9177 Жыл бұрын

@@wessexdruid7598 Really? Who told you that? The BBC?

@wessexdruid7598 Жыл бұрын

@@henryrollins9177 13.2M hits on Google - the World Health Organisation, World Bank, NIH and very many, many more. Covid knocked nearly 2% off your average of ~68 years for males and ~78 for women. "The biggest factor contributing to this relatively low life expectancy for males is a high mortality rate among working-age males from preventable causes (e.g., alcohol poisoning, stress, smoking, traffic accidents, violent crimes)."

@amecocoa3829 Жыл бұрын

Growing up, VE Day was the start of American Legion starting poppy sales pre Memorial Day at the end of the month. Thank you for keeping history alive with your teaching and excellent presentations.

@johndododoe1411 Жыл бұрын

Interestingly, British poppy sales are focused on Armistice Day: The 1918 armistice that ended the western front slaughter on the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month.

@HootOwl513 Жыл бұрын

@@johndododoe1411 That occasion [11/11] has become Veteran's Day in the US.

@bungee7503 Жыл бұрын

Whereas, in New Zealand and Australia, the equivalent commemoration (including poppy sales) is for ANZAC (Australia and New Zealand Army Corps) day on 25th April.

@amecocoa3829 Жыл бұрын

@@bungee7503 I had no idea. Thank you for the education.

@bungee7503 Жыл бұрын

@@amecocoa3829 New Zealand and Australia have sent soldiers etc to every war the Western powers have fought since the Boer War (not necessarily a good thing). I think New Zealand’s casualty rate per population in WWI was the highest of all countries. I’m the first of three generations in my family to not go to war and I am so grateful for that.

@creigmacc Жыл бұрын

You know it's UNCONDITIONAL when some of the signers on the document are later executed.

@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh Жыл бұрын

True! They didnt knowed what they were doing. Life mistakes!

@tjanderson5892 Ай бұрын

@@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mhthink they clearly knew what they were doing. Maybe hoped they’d be spared but knew full well the likelihood that they may not be

@colinmartin2921 Жыл бұрын

The sheer enormity of WWII amazes me, just taking Monty as an example, his war took him from Belgium, to the defence of the South Coast of Britain, to Alamein, to Tunisia, Sicilly, Italy, back to the UK, back to France, Belgium, Holland and finally, to destiny at Lunebergh Heath; and the same goes for all the other Allied leaders and soldiers, airmen and sailors.

@AndyJarman Жыл бұрын

Quite how the Nazis ever thought they could prosecute a frontline over such a huge are has always seemed to typify the breath takingly naive arrogance of those people.

@Ghreinos Жыл бұрын

@@AndyJarman Well they did edvance, until the americans arrived.

@benisahengaming. 8 ай бұрын

Nazism, much like the plague, spreads very quickly.

@chainweaver3361 Жыл бұрын

Dr Felton never disappoints when he releases a video. It would help greatly to donate to help keep the content coming.

@davidpnewton Жыл бұрын

Actually there were FOUR surrenders during that period. The one that's been missed out is Kesselring's command in Italy. Army Group G surrendered on 6 May to Field Marshall Alexander. Kesselring himself surrendered on 9 May but his command had been gone for 3 days by that point.

@funfact8660 Жыл бұрын

😂 Italy, that's because nobody cared

@stevestruthers6180 Жыл бұрын

Five surrenders if you consider the fact that in the Netherlands, the German forces surrendered to General Henry Crerar of the Canadian Army on the 8th of May as well.

@militaryhatsguide8725 Жыл бұрын

Germany surrendered to 6 countries then (Italy, Netherlands, France, Soviets, US, and UK)

@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623 Жыл бұрын

That's a local surrender in a local theater. Those happened all across Europe, and in the Pacific too. Or are we going to count Fieldmarshall Paulus surrender at Stalingrad as full surrender too?

@bobsyeruncle5557 Жыл бұрын

@@funfact8660a lot of allied servicemen were killed in the Italian campaign. Their families probably cared.

@alexh4436 Жыл бұрын

I find it telling that Montgomery arranged a press event for the partial surrender while Eisenhower stayed out of the way and merely asked if the Germans if they understood and were prepared to carry out the terms. His communique was also very matter of fact. “The Mission of this Allied Force was fulfilled at 0241, local time, May 7th, 1945, Eisenhower.”

@Ihateironyanddumbusernames Жыл бұрын

Yeah that's why Eisenhower is so fascinating to me. They called him the "balancer in chief". It seems like he was born to wield power effectively. I wish we cloned him so we could have him serve as president today.

@uptoolate2793 Жыл бұрын

@@Ihateironyanddumbusernames God, no.

@raymondtonns2521 Жыл бұрын

Monty seemed more the ham but i liked when he asked of the Nazi generals who are these people what do they want as if they were annoying salesmen

@Johnnycdrums Жыл бұрын

@@raymondtonns2521; That made me laugh too.

@grumpyoldman8661 Жыл бұрын

I admire Ike greatly, but this was also (uncharacteristically) a bit of play-acting. As Supreme Allied Commander his place was at the table, not pretending he was standing majestically apart. Monty (like Patton) was a 'prima donna' but a great battlefield commander nonetheless. (UK)

@georgieklimeck1186 Жыл бұрын

My grandfather was stationed on the eastern front. He spent multiple days on a raft that he constructed in order to be captured by an English ship rather than The Red army. His younger brother died in a prison camp in Siberia.

@waynefernandes9455 Жыл бұрын

What a nightmare. I hope he found peace in his life after the war.

@mirquellasantos2716 11 ай бұрын

Your grandfather and other Germans were true cowards. They committed all kinds of atrocities and when it was their time to face their victims they waived white flags and hid under the feet of Americans.

@28pbtkh23 11 ай бұрын

I'm glad he made it to the British lines. I pity his younger brother.

@shanemcdowall 11 ай бұрын

Your grandfather knew about, and possibly participated in, the atrocities committed by the German Army on the Eastern Front.

@georgieklimeck1186 11 ай бұрын

@@shanemcdowall It is true that he knew about what was done. Nobody told me this, but of the three brothers that fought in the war the middle one was a true believer. My grandfather however was a socialist. Of the battalion he was in that got sent to attack Moscow he was one of only two or three that made it back. He almost got shot on one occasion for repeatedly “losing” his cigarettes around some prisoners he was guarding. His suffering in no way measures up to the suffering caused by the nazis, but his suffering also happened.

@blemonn Жыл бұрын

Thank you Dr. Felton for all of your wonderful content !

@John_Hemingway Жыл бұрын

Hear! hear!

@TimPerfetto Жыл бұрын

You are very welcome!

@matpk Жыл бұрын

@@John_HemingwayCompare Nazi Germany Vs Nazi Chi Na in your next video

@1FokkerAce Жыл бұрын

Would’ve loved to have been a fly on the wall for that Jodl/Keitel conversation at the end, there.

@tHaH4x0r Жыл бұрын

As others have mentioned, there are a bunch of other surrenders next to these three. One of these is the German surrender of the north-west european forces (by general Blaskowitz to Montgomery), which happened in Wageningen, Netherlands, the 6th of May. This video is quite the coincidence for me, as just last night I stayed in the very hotel ('de wereld') where this surrender took place. In fact, this very morning I ate my breakfast in the very same room where they signed the documents.

@kgrant536 Жыл бұрын

Bless those young men and women who made V.E. Day possible.

@jackthorton10 Жыл бұрын

Happy VE day

@Ah01 Жыл бұрын

Some victory: half europe fell into a worst kind of slavery under soviets and their stooges.. your god did not bless the east european people much between 1945 and 1990.

@gurglejug627 Жыл бұрын

does that include Mr. Hitler then?

@andrewstravels2096 Жыл бұрын

Happy VE Day Everyone!!! 🇺🇸🇬🇧🇫🇷🇨🇦

@PrimeX-rt3qn Жыл бұрын

Cringe

@pjotrtje0NL Жыл бұрын

And 🇳🇱+🇩🇰, @@vdotme

@JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701 Жыл бұрын

lol VE Day? Tell that to the *Ukainians!* Stop living in the Past

@trance_trousers Жыл бұрын

@@quan-uo5ws and lbgtqia++cdehijkxyz lol.

@hanhdhsj Жыл бұрын

Gott mit uns

@glennschwartz3435 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Mark! Great and interesting content as always! The highlight of the day!

@ibnewton8951 Жыл бұрын

_”… and leave them to the tender mercies of the Soviets!”_ If I were a German soldier, the last thing I would want to do would be to surrender to the Soviets.

@aleksazunjic9672 Жыл бұрын

Yep, considering what they did to Soviet POWs early in the war, they got of easily .

@ABC1701A Жыл бұрын

Civilians weren't keen either. I have a friend who's grandparents fled what became East Germany and surrendered to UK/Commonwealth forces, anything but the Soviets.

@TheFuehrer Жыл бұрын

@@aleksazunjic9672 600,00 Soviet soldiers surrendered to Germany in the Battle of Kiev 1941 out of those 600,000 more than 200,000 volunteered to serve in Wehrmacht AGAINST the Soviets and the others remaining survived till the end, only to be killed by the Soviets later on when they "liberated" those POW camps because to Soviets surrendering or getting captured meant you are a traitor to the motherland. So in the end, Soviets ultimately killed their own captured men. Your point? Read history and the true history, not the carefully crafted crap fed to us by the Allies.

@aleksazunjic9672 Жыл бұрын

@@TheFuehrer Yeah right 😁Makes you wonder how did Germany lost that war 😁 In reality, out of 600 thousand captured soldiers, 500 thousand were DELIBERATLY starved to death by Germans. When this became known Soviet soldiers were less and less willing to surrender. It became clear that German plan was complete annihilation of Slavs.

@HungryLoki Жыл бұрын

@@aleksazunjic9672 There's actually no comparison between the soviets and the germans, the soviets were such deplorable examples of human beings, they didn't only mistreat POWs, they even mistreated every single red army soldier who had had any kind of contact with the other allies.

@jmanotti7195 Жыл бұрын

Once again, a GREAT history lesson! Thank you, Dr. Felton!

@lewisticknor Жыл бұрын

Thank you. Of course everything you do is uncompromising, and I always think it is the best video you've made. But this one is just so thorough and outstanding.

@Firefox-cr3jw Жыл бұрын

Thank you for yet another great video! I listen to your War Stories while i work. 8 hours a day, every day :)

@keithbrewer9927 Жыл бұрын

All your work is informative and immensely enjoyable. Much appreciated.

@bbbabrock Жыл бұрын

I particularly liked this one Mr. Felton. I watch almost all your vids and I probably would put this one in my top 10% for some reason. Thank you immensely.

@marvwatkins7029 Жыл бұрын

Another great, complex, comprehensive Mark Felton Production accomplished!

@jvkxbe Жыл бұрын

No other channel i look forward to posting! Thanks Dr.Felton

@firstname2853 Жыл бұрын

Yes Dr Feltzie dose it again. Easily the best channel on KZfaq about war history. Spot on Dr Felton.

@amadeusamwater Жыл бұрын

It's interesting that Eisenhower chose not to sign any of the documents. As the Supreme Commander in the West. his signature was the only one that actually mattered. Certainly, Mcarthur wouldn't have missed that chance.

@aleksazunjic9672 Жыл бұрын

Ike simply wanted to wrap things up without allowing Germans to deepen divisions among Allies (as they were planning to do) . Surprisingly humble fellow.

@louise_rose 8 ай бұрын

Eisenhower understood that Reims was not the final step, the full and final German surrender - though it has often been presented as such by Anglo-Saxon historians after the war. Some of the conditions were typical of an armistice rather than a full surrender - for example, there was no clear demand that the German troops would have to give up their arms and hand themselves over as POWs, only that they end the fighting. Also, it didn't stop the fighting on the remnants of the Eastern front. When Zhukov got word through and pointed out that there needed to be a full and definite surrender, which should take place in Berlin, Ike immediately agreed.

@stevenstjohn6681 Жыл бұрын

Another fascinating video mark. By far the best historical channel on KZfaq. Keep them coming

@TrippinCreatives Жыл бұрын

It's sad what The History Channel has become. This has done a far better job

@davidst.germain6440 5 ай бұрын

Dr Felton is the finest military history presenter, researcher, and video maker on you tube today. I've learned more from his short videos than from any longer productions.

@beetleything1864 Жыл бұрын

What a show Monty put on - i used to pass his house & Blue Plaque around the corner from Oval Tube station - near the Oval Cricket Ground, when i lived in London.

@shutup2751 Жыл бұрын

america deserves credit here, instead of being petty towards germany like we seen in the aftermath of WW1, they decided the same mistakes should not be repeated and instead helped to rebuild germany

@MrGouldilocks Жыл бұрын

The emergence of The Soviet Union as a rival superpower seems to be the primary impetus for the Marshall Plan to help rebuild Europe. The US wanted strong European allies to form a bulwark against Soviet expansion. It's impossible to know what kind of American financial aid would have materialized for Europe if the Soviet Union wasn't perceived as an existential threat. But rebuilding Europe after WW2 undoubtedly bolstered America's long-term strategic position in Europe. The financial aid wasn't charity, it was an investment.

@Codex70 Жыл бұрын

It was only because of the USSR and that they wanted to become the world's superpower. They didn't care much about Germany, they cared about stopping communism

@JamesThomas-gg6il Жыл бұрын

Also Ike informed the soviets about the surrender knowing full well what they would be in for after the fact. Since it was agreed by the allies before hand that Unconditional Surrender was the plan, he told the soviets. He shouldn't have but it ended the war, and kept our part of the agreement.

@TheBenchPressMan Жыл бұрын

The US had successfully crippled its biggest rival (The UK), so was pretty happy to continue its dismantling. Nothing the US ever did in the last 100 years was for anything but it’s own interest.

@thunderbird1921 Жыл бұрын

@@MrGouldilocks My honest guess is that had Russia not been a Communist power (say a republic or a constitutional monarchy set up by the Whites after the Russian Civil War), Germany and Japan would have been punished 3x harder. This is because there would be less motive to pardon or ignore any war criminals and a bigger desire to more aggressively transform these two nations for the future. Plus, a democratic Russia would have likely gotten much more public sympathy from the West for the attrocities that had occurred to its people at the hands of the Nazis, it would not have been forgotten due to a Cold War or have been questioned as propaganda.

@BigDuke6ixx Жыл бұрын

I like the picture right at the end of the two senior German officers, Jodl and Keitel, in captivity eating out of mess tins as they count down the days or hours until their appointments with the hangman.

@mriamilne 11 ай бұрын

Another great educational and superbly narrated episode. Nobody does it like Dr Felton. Loved it. Ty.

@stevebagnall1553 Жыл бұрын

Top Quality as usual from Dr. Felton, succinct and to the point, as usual.

@robg5958 Жыл бұрын

As ever, an excellent and informative video! Thanks 👍

@MrXdmp Жыл бұрын

Thanks Dr. Felton!

@balancedactguy Жыл бұрын

Excellent video Mark!! You always present something new to learn!

@garypulliam3740 Жыл бұрын

Did anyone else notice the significance of the schools in this episode? The German Naval Academy, the French Technical College, and the German Engineering School?

@mitchmatthews6713 Жыл бұрын

My lunchtime history lesson. Thank you, Mark!

@-.Steven Жыл бұрын

Been waiting for this! Thank you Dr. Felton!

@Emotator Жыл бұрын

Superb Dr Felton and Happy VE-Day!

@nodarkthings Жыл бұрын

Absolutely fascinating, Dr. Felton. Thank you.

@arckmage5218 Жыл бұрын

It's still incredible to me that we have so much footage of that war, and those events. They will not be forgotten for a long time.

@lynx-alpha2073 Жыл бұрын

They will never be forgotten, The problem would be in oversimplification and taking the wrong lessons from it. Thats why this channel is so important. Good detail and objectivism in understandable short chunks

@1pcfred Жыл бұрын

But will anyone ever learn anything?

@Eric-kn4yn Жыл бұрын

I think by 1940s cameras had reached a high tech standard. Ànd were mass produced and elec media etc was a mature institution

@1pcfred Жыл бұрын

@@Eric-kn4yn certainly the cameras that used Zeiss optics were the highest standard. Even in WW1 the British had a deal with Germany to keep supplying them with Zeiss. I'm not sure if they had the same relationship in WW2 though. I've never heard of it. But maybe.

@carlmontney7916 Жыл бұрын

Dr. Felton another fabulous history lesson given as only you can! One of the things I love about your videos is the fact that I can use them anytime I hear somebody say this is what happened. Then I can say "well, maybe you're not entirely correct". Please watch this video from someone who is an expert on this. Well done sir!

@kirkmorrison6131 Жыл бұрын

My Uncles who were over there, only brought home German rifles and pistols. One of them was released a few days before today 78 years ago. I knew that they saw real action as they only talked about being in England never the War and changed the channel when a war show came on TV

@petershen6924 Жыл бұрын

One famous Chinese communist general, Liu bocheng, who was later promoted to Marshal and lived to the 1980s, refused to watch war movies. He said that they reminded him of his subordinates who died in battle.

@kirkmorrison6131 Жыл бұрын

@@petershen6924 Yes, I always figured they didn't want to be reminded of the war. Too many lost friends and too many bad memories they idk idk their minds.

@mikeohagan2206 Жыл бұрын

war isnt pretty, and to be reminded of it isnt something you want to be reminded of. god bless your uncles.

@kirkmorrison6131 Жыл бұрын

@@mikeohagan2206 Very true the little I have heard it had to be a nightmare you could not wake up from. It had to be the worst for those in the PTO.

@roddydykes7053 Жыл бұрын

It must’ve felt patronizing to see the war sensationalized on TV, by reporters and other personalities who hadn’t gone through it themselves

@amartin4423 Жыл бұрын

Dr. Felton is the finest historian on and off youtube!

@northeastdegen Жыл бұрын

Thanks dr felton, you make my love for history insufferable to my friends

@sid2112 Жыл бұрын

LOL that's the best compliment I ever heard.

@scrappydoo7887 Жыл бұрын

It's a beautiful thing

@historyarmyproductions Жыл бұрын

That is just wonderful lol

@mikeboyer1114 Жыл бұрын

I enjoyed the longer than usual vid. Keep ‘em coming!

@raynus1160 Жыл бұрын

Wow - good stuff & exceptionally well-detailed. Two enthusiastic thumbs up.

@TellySavalas-or5hf Жыл бұрын

I read in "After the battle magazine" that the house where the peace was signed in Northern Germany was demolished 2 years ago. I regretted that.

@munckintattoolover24 Жыл бұрын

I have an old newspaper saved by my great grandfather dated May 8th 1945 (Australian time) which has the photo of Friedeburg signing the surrender with Montgomery. Makes me think if it had been printed before the Soviet surrender ceremony.

@oldtop4682 6 ай бұрын

You learn something new every day. I knew about the first two surrenders, but not the third. Great stuff Doctor Felton!

@notthatdonald1385 Жыл бұрын

Thank you once again Dr. Felton.

@Tzreoaor Жыл бұрын

If only we could have a tenth of the knowledge Mark has of history.

@wadeadams4263 Жыл бұрын

Definitely love your videos keep up the great work.

@cliffordcasnermillar4976 Жыл бұрын

I’ve been to all three sites (or at least within a few hundred yards of the first, which is as close as it’s possible to get with the site being fenced off).

@robertchubb5602 Жыл бұрын

Yet another SUPERB contribution to a litany of superb contributions to history

@-.Steven Жыл бұрын

Subscribed! And Shared! Thanks Dr. Felton!

@The_Corporal Жыл бұрын

Happy VE-Day! Endless respect to every hero fighting for country

@Danekim_ Жыл бұрын

Dr. Felton, can you make a video on Alfred Jodl .. i’ve been reading stuff that says he did not get the proper sentencing

@mohammedsaysrashid3587 Жыл бұрын

A wonderful introduction by ( Dr Mark Felton) channel...thanks for sharing

@bevinboulder5039 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for such a timely report!

@johnmcmickle5685 Жыл бұрын

My father was on duty that night at Eisenhower's headquarters. They retyped those papers numerous times.

@firestar7188 Жыл бұрын

At time 1:58 The Germans gave permission that Allied bombers ( end of April / start of May 1945 ) could drop food on western part of Netherlands This was a Big mission with about 242 Lancasters and about 400 B -17 bombers. Also the Swedish Red Cross shiped food to the Netherlands ( January March 1945 )

@bigsarge2085 Жыл бұрын

Fascinating, thank you!

@peat6773 Жыл бұрын

I live in Jersey and today is our liberation day 9/05/45 . 77 years ago Jersey was freed from German occupation , today it is a public holiday with parades and selebration

@raymondtonns2521 Жыл бұрын

have a pint for me! a yank

@brasinovic Жыл бұрын

You are one of the best on KZfaq. Knowledge is crazyyy! But do you have to be obsessed with it to know all of this ? I feel like there gotta be somewhat of an obsession with it

@colin661 Жыл бұрын

When an obsession is beneficial we call it a passion

@ibnewton8951 Жыл бұрын

Obsession??? It’s his vocation - he’s an historian.

@bessie2275 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for a great presentation

@victorcontreras9138 11 ай бұрын

Very good! Always an informative, factual and interesting presentation 👍

@charlesharris9965 Жыл бұрын

There were actually 4 German surrenders ending the war in Europe. In addition to the 3 mentioned here, there was an unapproved surrender in Italy on May 2nd, 1945.

@ray7419 Жыл бұрын

Happy VE Day Dr Felton and everyone!! 🇺🇸🇬🇧🇷🇺

@lisaharmon5619 Жыл бұрын

Thank you Dr. Felton.

@lynx-alpha2073 Жыл бұрын

Please keep making videos like this format. The big docus only want buzwords and highlights. The short detailed format combats over simplification without losing people in the weeds

@TommyWantWingys Жыл бұрын

I love history. Crazy to think these events taking place a mere 80 years ago. That's not very long at All.

@Droopybear Жыл бұрын

Thanks Dr Felton, awesome and informative as usual. I appreciate how you keep all of this objective, simply instructing what happened and leaving opinion to the student.

@rolandfischer931 Жыл бұрын

Id caution you, pretty much no one does this. No one is impartial. You likely just agree with his views and do not notice when they're there

@historyarmyproductions Жыл бұрын

I was hoping for this, very excited.

@marlinmealer6506 Жыл бұрын

Very Well Done Dr. Felton!!

@Dave-jd9qn Жыл бұрын

I am keen to know about the radio communications involved between the combatants and between the German negotiators and the Doenitz government. How did the sides first make contact? Are there sources?

@glynmatthews6697 Жыл бұрын

It’s funny how the field Marshall’s and commanders don’t remove their hats when in a tent but most definitely do when indoors ! Monty’s tent is like a house too !

@dougspindler4947 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Mark. Another excellent video.

@jm9371 Жыл бұрын

Wow, that was some complicated arrangements; very excellent content. However, I will continue to imagine that the surrender was on a single piece of paper with one signature.

@you-know-who9023 Жыл бұрын

Very interesting and enlightening. I especially enjoyed the details about operation Hannibal and the timing of the final surrender. The reason that the Soviets and now Russians commemorate 9th May as the end of World War 2 appears to be a result of events on the ground rather than the last signatures of German surrender which actually took place before midnight on 8th May. In Konigsberg (renamed Kaliningrad) for example German troops only laid down their arms on 9thay when they knew it was all over. It appears to also have been this way in other places on the Eastern Front. I was once told a first hand account by a half German half Irish man who was drafted in the last week's of the war as a 16 year old of when his unit surrendered in a forest east of Berlin. Although they knew the surrender had taken place they did not go looking for the Soviet troops so a few weeks passed before they were taken into captivity and until that happened they still functioned as a military unit with a chain of command. My friend survived captivity which turned out to be very short because he was considered to small for physical labour when he was medically examined by a medical board. He also seems to have been lucky enough to have been captured by a Soviet Unit who (by his own account) treated their captives humanely . As he was not sent to a labour camp his captivity ended without any bad experiences. On his release he travelled to the US sector and managed to get a job as an interpreter for the US army.

@gurglejug627 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for adding that. The reality of Soviet Russia was inhuman incarceration for many people yet humane treatment for many others. Who can tell why - to satisfy Stalin and his henchmen? Many German prisoners were used as forced labour to 'rebuild what they had destroyed' and were otherwise and/or afterwards treated well and whilst forbidden to return home often married Russian women and led normal lives in the SU.

@yshaikalmanovitch393 Жыл бұрын

Also, there were some changes in the final agreement signed in Berlin, mainly the clarification of the demand that soldiers would have to surrender in the relative fronts rather than allowing German forces on the Eastern Front to surrender on the Western Front. Thus, the ceremony on the 9th was a bit more than just a symbolic act.

@tirpitzblits8971 Жыл бұрын

I love your videos, they are so informative and are very interesting.

@sealove79able Жыл бұрын

A great magnificent very interesting video Mr.Felton.Have a good one.

@oligoprimer Жыл бұрын

Also, I believe the first name of General Bedell Smith was pronounced to rhyme with “beetle”; that’s how it was pronounced in the movie Patton, and at the time of filming there would have been many alive (perhaps including technical advisers) who would have known the correct pronunciation.

@Sascha5 Жыл бұрын

It doesn't make sense though.

@popeshop5863 Жыл бұрын

The only reasons why Dönitz was not hanged is because he was a NAVY man and could distance himself from prisoner transport and the final solution even though officers said he was very much into the mix of it all. For the unrestricted warfare it was lessened due to the fact Allies were conducting their own unrestricted navel warfare in the Atlantic and the Pacific.

@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh Жыл бұрын

And another reason was because he was a superior german leader who aproved unconditional surrender to Allias and Soviets. So, how will looked if they hanged Donitz even later, like Keitel.

@leviturner3265 9 ай бұрын

Pretty unsavory to kill the men who signed the surrender documents.

@KR0TE7 6 ай бұрын

@@leviturner3265they were all war criminals doenitz was just extremely lucky

@abodavidov4073 Жыл бұрын

I love your work. Keep it coming!!!!

@susanacuratolo1200 10 ай бұрын

FELTON: VERY TIMELY AND EXCELLENT!

@salvagedb2470 Жыл бұрын

Bloody good break down of the Surrender , well done Dr Felton..wish we had got stuff like this at school instead of the watered down drivel..

@boblennox9251 Жыл бұрын

I believe there is a story that, in one of the surrender ceremonies, the German generals entered giving their HH salute. The Allied officer taking the surrender told the interpreter to send them out of the room, and instructed them to enter again, this time giving standard military salutes. Is there any truth to this?

@TrueBrit1 11 ай бұрын

Quite possibly. I've seen videos where German officers give a traditional salute, as opposed to the AH raised arm. In fact, if you look at 5:04, the German officers give a traditional salute, and I'm pretty sure allied demands were that the AH salute would NOT be tolerated, or acceptable, during negotiations or any other situation, so what you have suggested could well be correct.

@leviturner3265 9 ай бұрын

Interestingly the salute used in the pledge of allegiance in the United States before 1941-2 was the same / very similar to the salute used by the Germans, and the Italians before and during WWII. This was also the salute used by the Spanish under Francisco Franco. As this was the salute believed to be used by the Romans. In the United States it was known as the bellamy salute. Today the most common universal term for it would be the Roman salute. Although most people associate it with The Third Reich more than they do with The United States, Ancient Rome, Fascist Italy, or Spain under Franco.

@chrisjones6736 Жыл бұрын

unbelievably early to this one. And another outstanding end of war piece..

@sid2112 Жыл бұрын

Another good video, Mark.

@sumeetagrawal1888 Жыл бұрын

Hail Felton....without him, history lessons are tasteless!!

@MIKEBURROWS1 Жыл бұрын

Excellent video as always from Dr Felton, as someone who has watched the film "Downfall" several times it is interesting to see the part Generals Jodl and Keitel played in the German surrender/s after the events in Hitler's bunker which would make a great follow on film.