We'd love to see a standalone Traktor device! 😍

I completely agree. They need a flagship standalone controller to compete with the Prime 4 and XDJ-XZ.

Wholeheartedly agree!

Remember these are only onions and debate, just because the XZ is mine and Rodney's top controller (We are club DJ's who always use the industry standard equipment provided by the club, so for us the closer to this the better) doesn't mean this is definitively the answer. Everyone's list is going to be different depending on what works for them.

this channel is pretty well know for being sponsored by pioneer, whatcha expect? They had to take down their video comparing sc6000 to cdj 3000s cause the 6000s just smashed the cdjs in comparison even with them sugarcoating things for pioneer

prime 4 always!!! hello from paraguay

what's even crazier is people being entitled to their own opinions! =]

One of their main Points was it was as close as you could get to the full on Club Gear experience for 4K less. If closely mirroring Club Gear was not a big deal for you probably the Prime 4.

Nice nugget of info you found there, thanks for sharing! This does level up the DJ-505 then some degree for those who are partial to some backspinning 🙏

Remember these are only onions and debate, just because the XZ is mine and Rodney's top controller (We are club DJ's who always use the industry standard equipment provided by the club, so for us the closer to this the better) doesn't mean this is definitively the answer. Everyone's list is going to be different depending on what works for them.

@@Bigstygz I totally understand, I was just jerking around.

Pioneer will always tick the club standard box, can’t deny denon doesn’t have that

@@powerdater7514 if we follow this kind of arguments, then there never will be any change in the booths. I support more competition and innovation, because in the end we all gonna benefit. Also, 'club standard' is totally irrelevant in these crazy corona times.

@@ImpactSpace...that won't last forever.

It's recorded! Hopefully have it out in the coming weeks :)

Sorry this was an error on James' part, you are correct in thinking the Beat FX require Rekordbox!

Yes after playing with xdj-xz and prime 4, prime 4 had way more features, but it's a true 4 channel stand alone. Xz can't beat that, so I bought a prime 4

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Error on James' part there, you are correct!

Both James and Rodney would likely find a place for it in their top 5 if we had it at the time. It's a very nice controller indeed!

Not sure if you've decided yet, but I had the same dilemma. I ended up going with the S4 Mk3, because it has rotating tension jog wheels, an excellent remixing effects deck, sampler, high audio quality, larger range of sound effects (filter, chop, flanger, etc). The obvious difference though was the four-channels of the S4 vs 2-channels on the 800. Really it became a no brainer when considering the price too. As a House, Old School Rave and Techno head I can go places with S4 I can only dream of with the 800. I do love the full size platters and jog displays on the 800 though, and the 800 is a nicer looking machine.

I don't get it either. Technically the XZ is certainly inferior (ancient screen, small RAM, no Sata/SD/Wifi, just 8-beatjump, etc...) while costing $600 more and being more bulky to carry around. The only better thing are the effects and jogs, though them being mechanical, they also make noise and can break easier... if you aren't a scratch DJ, the Prime 4 jogs are fine. Still a great video and overall I agree with the list!

Seriously, the prime 4 is leagues ahead of any other controller in the market.

I agree ! No other control have the capability of the future of the prime 4 can be with all the updates to come and it already the best ive every had!

yep if I had money to burn I know what controller I'd be igniting my cash on, have used both and can tell you the Denon is way more user friendly, feature packed and not to mention alot cheaper

No fucking way. The only way that's true is if you're a bedroom dj. The effects are worse, the jog wheels are worse, the build quality is sub par.

In a sense yet. You can't connect it directly to the FLX6, you would need to connect it to you computer and use it as a controller alongside the FLX6.

As a beginner would you recommend skipping the 400 and going straight to the 1000?

@@oldschoolwaverider when I was beginning 2 years ago, i got the 400 when it still kinda fresh out and it’s was about 470ish pounds. The controller is the perfect for mastering if you aspiring to be club dj. If knew about the ddj 1000 2 years ago I would have gone straight for it but the 400 is like 200 pounds now soo it won’t hurt the budget. Get the 400 and then upgrade to 1000 (this is what i did) or xdj xz if you are confident

i am undecided by ddj 800 and traktor s4

@@AntonioGargiulodragossido I'm also undecided between the 800 and sr2

The hercules inpulse 500 is really good that I have but its only usb powered.

@@jakepatel8403 I’m looking a DJ Controller with the connections in the back. The Hercules 500. Are good. If thy release an upgrade version of the 500 with the xlr connections and the rest day one buy for me. I like the djay pro app so much it’s awesome

they have lol search their channel for it. tho its all on the smaller monitors than PA speakers

Why?

@@eliososa7474 Denon has real 4 channels mixer (the Pioneer has only 2 real channels), large display, permanent connection of a very capacious SSD drive, 5 USB inputs + 1 SD, the ability to play music from any source without creating playlists on the computer beforehand, the ability to play independent playlists in different rooms , real-time music playback from the Wi-Fi internet, the ability to personalize the colors of the players....Pioneer does not have it, it does not mean that it is a bad controller, but the Pioneer company, wanting to quickly respond to the flagship Denon DJ Prime 4, created a quickly, slightly improved version of the XDJ-RX2 model with a small display, a better expanded effects panel and the ability to connect 2 microphones with a reduced correction and a 4 channel mixer with which you can only use 2 channels at the same time.

@@mastermixaudio5438 Hey, incomparable, perfectly right, nothing to add

I agree that the SX3 is fine. SR2 is a joke though (too expensive, poor audio quality, EQs and filters dont work standalone) and the Mixars Primo much better in comparison. And RXZ, hmmm, way too exotic and bulky.

😆 It wasn't in stock in the UK at the time!

Unfortunately stock delays have meant it is not available yet, we wish we could've included it!

@@GetintheMix where would ya have placed it? Vs the traktor s4?

@@GetintheMix when realistically are you expecting the stock please?

Hopefully in the next week, unfortunately we cannot be certain as it is not in our control.

@@GetintheMix Thanks

@@suumergroovedjseries496 yes, the XZ is USB standalone for 2 channels. You can also control Serato and Rekordbox with it.

Unfortunately we couldn't include it as it's not in the UK yet!

@@GetintheMix ah that makes sense. Best controller I’ve ever used, love mine.

It's too expensive compared to the 1000. It has too much plastic. You can't use any effect standalone. There is no standalone Talkover either. For the money the other 5 shown controllers and AiOs are simply better. So no reason to be mad :)

@@ImpactSpace totally agree, if you gonna spend that much moolah, might aswel pay the extra few hundy and get the best of that series rather than settle for second place. i.e. if my wife found out I spent $1600nzd on a peice of DJ kit she'd be fuming... however if she found out I spent $2400 on a peice of kit, she'd still be fuming just as much.... see where I'm going with this? your already up there in the pro mid range, and granted the 800 has it's place in the market as does all entry level controllers(except the flex6), but when your that committed, and you want to future proof your controller for the next 5yrs might aswel go for broke get the top dog.

@@ImpactSpace the reason I went the 800 route wasn't too do with the price it was more about the size, featured and fitting it onto a portable table with a laptop stand. The 1000's is a tad too big. For 2 channels controller it's feature rich! plus its the same layout as the 1000. Not everyone wants 4 channels and not everyone has space. I know which one I'd prefer to carry around

@@ImpactSpace talk over isn't a deal breaker use the faders! Depends what sort of DJ, everyone has a different use case

@@trimworld3730 Of course it's not a dealbreaker, but having the DDJ800 'taken from the table' isn't a dealbreaker either! It's a good controller, but there are simply some better ones :)

Lovely bit of kit she is.

True that. They should leave Denon out of this nonsense!!!!

Manufacturers need to start releasing Size: XXL controllers 🔥

Rane One stock took some time to reach the shelves, at the time we filmed it was not in stock in the UK/Europe unfortunately.

It's not yet available in the UK, unfortunately