Live React: Karl Jobst Exposes The Graded Game World (Again)

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2 жыл бұрын

Karl is back. And this time... he brought a lawyer with him!
Twice as incriminating.
Twice as damning.
Twice as Karl.
The full-length sequel you won't want to miss!
Full credit to Karl Jobst for the original video: • The Retro Video Game S...
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@MrAnonymousization
@MrAnonymousization 2 жыл бұрын
The lawyer isn’t doubting Karl. She is neither endorsing or doubting what he said. She is giving her legal opinion, based on the information she was given. She is just saying that “If all the information that Karl has provided is what happened, then yes, this could be illegal.” It’s not her doubting Karl, it’s just saying “If these are the fact, then this is the possible outcome.”
@GetTheGreg
@GetTheGreg 2 жыл бұрын
Hahah I know. Just me being deadpan sarcastic😅
@TheRockReborn
@TheRockReborn 2 жыл бұрын
@@GetTheGreg More like covering your own ass.
@TenmasSchoolOfThought
@TenmasSchoolOfThought 11 ай бұрын
Kinda funny for Yuji Naka to call it a scam and then get arrested for insider trading
@MrAnonymousization
@MrAnonymousization 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think we need “More Regulation” on the market; at least not to what pertains in this WATA/Heritage situation. Because the regulation is already in place, the issue is that these companies are probably not following the FTC guidelines and regulations that are already in place. So more regulations would only be punishing other companies by adding more rules, when the ones who did wrong had broken the rules that were already in place.
@michaelhall5429
@michaelhall5429 Жыл бұрын
Regulation includes the policing of the laws, not just the creation of the laws.
@CancerArpegius
@CancerArpegius 2 жыл бұрын
Surprised that Billy Michiel didn't sue Charlie for calling him weird
@PokeRetroFan
@PokeRetroFan 2 жыл бұрын
VGA all the way for me. I'll never send anything to wata
@Odinoian
@Odinoian 2 жыл бұрын
11:12 innocent until proven guilty, of course. From a PR and business standpoint, I understand your take, but from a moral standpoint, I think this is exactly what's wrong with this situation. 37:57 effectively, NA was a forum, yes. And users alone would probably not be able to maintain the database's accuracy today. BUT it was a very knowledgeable collective of info and insight.
@GetTheGreg
@GetTheGreg 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. When already acting in a potentially immoral manner, it's just the "most expected" response
@quezcatol
@quezcatol 2 жыл бұрын
As always great content, we appreciate it!
@GetTheGreg
@GetTheGreg 2 жыл бұрын
As always, your comment is appreciated! 😎
@Embracedempathy
@Embracedempathy 2 жыл бұрын
I've never even heard of cheezies haha
@GetTheGreg
@GetTheGreg 2 жыл бұрын
If you ever get the chance, they are a great snack haha! Top tier, even!
@CancerArpegius
@CancerArpegius 2 жыл бұрын
@@GetTheGreg wait Greg you are Canadian?
@GetTheGreg
@GetTheGreg 2 жыл бұрын
@@CancerArpegius yup!
@sascha4356
@sascha4356 2 жыл бұрын
Let’s get more “let’s go Greg” 😁 & help growing this awesome channel 👌🏻
@GetTheGreg
@GetTheGreg 2 жыл бұрын
yes! 🎊🎊
@TheMicahwitz
@TheMicahwitz 2 жыл бұрын
LFGG!!!!!!!! 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
@TheMicahwitz
@TheMicahwitz 2 жыл бұрын
I love Greg’s channel. Dude makes some great content .
@salvo5108
@salvo5108 2 жыл бұрын
I never recognized WATA as anything of value. When I buy and look for games all I do is look for good clean raws or VGA at most. For me WATA will decrease the value of the game if anything. I only do VGA even though VGA has its share of pitfalls, but I am glad I stuck to my guns.
@blockbusterlatefees7713
@blockbusterlatefees7713 Жыл бұрын
Cheezies can be used as a treat given for saying funny "Cheesy" jokes hhaha
@GetTheGreg
@GetTheGreg Жыл бұрын
You're going to be earning yourself a bag very quickly in that case😅
@blockbusterlatefees7713
@blockbusterlatefees7713 Жыл бұрын
@@GetTheGreg being Cheesy ain't chEASY LOL 😂 so bad!!
@GardenerEarthGuy
@GardenerEarthGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Wonder if we'll see any insurance claims for sealed video games- example lost in fires, hurricanes, theft?
@fish_guru20
@fish_guru20 2 жыл бұрын
Lol died when he said she don't know about fake eBay purchases she gonna be taking for a ride man that's so true tho
@CrazyCoyote100
@CrazyCoyote100 Жыл бұрын
Remember that Tomb Raider 9.8 A++ Rating where it looked no where NEAR that rating?
@one1blue
@one1blue 2 жыл бұрын
54:00 she’s just watching her own ass man. She’s a lawyer. I don’t think she doubts Karl at all. And I’m not sure why you would either. You might be a little too deep in the forest to see the trees on this one my man.
@GetTheGreg
@GetTheGreg 2 жыл бұрын
Haha don't worry, don't worry, just some deadpan sarcasm on my part. I cut out the part like 1min later where I explain I'm joking, but that might have been a bad idea as people aren't giving me benefit of the doubt 😅
@one1blue
@one1blue 2 жыл бұрын
@@GetTheGreg oooh. My bad then. Usually my sarcasm meter is on point. I whiffed on that one haha.
@GetTheGreg
@GetTheGreg 2 жыл бұрын
It clearly didn't translate well as a joke as you're the second person to mention it, so I'll take the blame for this one haha👌
@adamcheesman1270
@adamcheesman1270 2 жыл бұрын
VGA do have pop reports you have to email them asking for the game you want a report on Game name Regain of the game Best just to send a picture of the game as well
@barrybubbles4639
@barrybubbles4639 2 жыл бұрын
Cheezies? What's that? I'm assuming they can't match Scampi Fries but I'm ....jealous all the same
@GetTheGreg
@GetTheGreg 2 жыл бұрын
I just googled scampi fries and I'm still confused hahah. What flavour is "scampi"? We don't have those here!
@dagreenshiz
@dagreenshiz 2 жыл бұрын
Whats a WATA?
@jamesm1
@jamesm1 Жыл бұрын
Did you see his video updating the situation a couple months back?
@GetTheGreg
@GetTheGreg Жыл бұрын
Yup, I consume almost all of his content - before and after the WATA vids. Funny enough, I actually speak with Karl a decent amount these days. Both about the sealed/graded world and collecting in general.
@jamesm1
@jamesm1 Жыл бұрын
@@GetTheGreg sweet!
@anthonyneri2247
@anthonyneri2247 Жыл бұрын
Ghost busters
@robertalbrecht7015
@robertalbrecht7015 2 жыл бұрын
Always love your videos. Still don’t know what to think about all of this. Sure it will just pass by like everything else and don’t think anything will bring down the prices of games to what they were. Sure a lot of people don’t like it but that’s just the way the world works.
@GetTheGreg
@GetTheGreg 2 жыл бұрын
I try not to be *too* cynical at times, but I largely have the same overall view of this all.
@Alma-B
@Alma-B 2 жыл бұрын
ugh i missed this live and barely caught the end. replay is not as fun coz i can't troll the chat 🤣
@GetTheGreg
@GetTheGreg 2 жыл бұрын
This is true haha. Albeit, chat was pretty civil for the most part!
@petelynch9985
@petelynch9985 2 жыл бұрын
My men Greg here is pulling a classic asmongold same shirt 3 time in a row haha.
@GetTheGreg
@GetTheGreg 2 жыл бұрын
This is complete facts haha.
@calvinwilder6512
@calvinwilder6512 6 ай бұрын
Man
@tspark-thero
@tspark-thero Жыл бұрын
That has bing a lawsuit filed I think
@DynamoCG
@DynamoCG 2 жыл бұрын
In regards to the SM64 9.5 vs the 9.8 A++, I don't believe Karl would doubt that a WATA grade will always command a price premium. From his first video he is trying to justify his belief that WATA has manipulated various things in order to get into a position where they are considered the standard for video game grading. It seems like they have succeeded in that whether it be because of the shady actions that were taken or because people believe in the product. Obviously there will be other factors playing in at this high end but we're talking a difference of over 500 thousand dollars for what is considered a "perfect" game by either company. I also share his concern that the WATA name alone seems to carry so much weight when you factor in how they got to this point.
@oppiie3980
@oppiie3980 2 жыл бұрын
How exactly is he trying to "justify his belief" ? He is presenting the results of his research, which was initiated by his belief. That's very different.
@Dn-bc1zi
@Dn-bc1zi 2 жыл бұрын
The vga was uncirculated, it means it came from a case pack, not as cool imo
@ParallelUniversity
@ParallelUniversity 2 жыл бұрын
The VGA should have gone for slightly less than the WATA, not hundreds of thousands less. WATA has the hookup with Heritage, and that is where the biggest sales have been. If the buyer of the VGA wanted to flip it on Heritage, they would need to crack it out and get it graded by WATA and then hope they don't get a 9.6 or 9.4, which is totally possible. The WATA understandably holds a premium for these reasons, and Karl's conclusion is correct. People aren't investing in the game. They are investing in WATA and Heritage's combined ability to continue propping up the market.
@Dn-bc1zi
@Dn-bc1zi 2 жыл бұрын
Eh i think wata has more detailed grades which makes there grading less speculative than vga, even if you dont crack vga they grade differently and combine everything into one grade, its not always easy to know why a vga game got its grade unlike wata which breaks it down, i think stuff like that makes wata a better investment piece regardless of heritage, i hear you though
@Dn-bc1zi
@Dn-bc1zi 2 жыл бұрын
I also think this market and these prices for the most part have outgrown needing heritage to prop it up at this point imo
@rajahferrier7475
@rajahferrier7475 2 жыл бұрын
Bro you have a good channel with good content. I see your subscriber base growing. Keep grinding mate
@AleMastroianni
@AleMastroianni 2 жыл бұрын
Tasty salt
@zacharyglatt4753
@zacharyglatt4753 2 жыл бұрын
Karl Jobst rubs me the wrong way personally, and I'm not even saying he hasn't done great work with these stories. He keeps saying things like "I wasn't sure if viewers would connect the dots" and "please take notes as this may get too complicated to understand," basically every which way you can say "the viewers aren't smart enough to keep up" that you can. He takes some logically fallacious shortcuts to protect his argument, like when he says people would only disagree with him because they're worried about their own skin in the game, or when he tries to spin up extra evidence he doesn't need, like eBay listings with high prices demonstrating some sort of mass scamming movement. The nail in the coffin came after he asked GTGG how he thought collectors' interest would be affected by to all these allegations and videos. GTGG started to answer by referencing the only way you can really measure collector interest: market value. But as he started to answer, Karl interrupted and threw what could only really be described as a profanity-laden tirade about how he "doesn't f'ing care" about the values and market prices and "why does everyone always go right to market value? Why is it always about the money?" He just kind of seems like a contemptuous bully, even though some of the work in these videos is compelling and important.
@DigitalContentNetwork
@DigitalContentNetwork 2 жыл бұрын
What scam ? Gameselling happens since the Romans, some of their Players even played with their lifes. What is so different now ?
@oppiie3980
@oppiie3980 2 жыл бұрын
@11:00 You're explicitely saying that if you're caught doing something wrong and people call you out on it, you'll deny everything. That's pretty damn bad. @25:00 you ramble on and on about how "It's unregulated" (despite the FTC being a thing, with you know, laws) like it's fine. Karl explicitely shows how it's immoral, and potentially illegal (we'll see). Why don't you tell people how/why it Should be regulated instead ? (Oh right, because you're to lose money if that happens, right...) @33:29 Karl says that people involved refuse to admit that basic ethics are important. That seems to very much apply to you; you may say "ah yes he's right", but everything else you say goes against that agreement. @1:00:12 I agree with the hypothesis that WATA will likely not suffer Too much, but we should hope that they do. @1:15:05 "If they're gonna operate in a gray area where they aren't operating illegally [...]" what even is your point there ? They *are* operating illegally. Smh. @1:19:42 Well yeah, obviously if the core market participants like you keep buying/selling at the artificially (and illegally) inflated prices, it'll never go back down to a more organic market. That's how greed works and none of yall will group together to make low sells to re-establish a more organic and accessible market. Change my mind.
@iTadakimAsu85
@iTadakimAsu85 2 жыл бұрын
Greg is partial towards the sealed and grading market so it is in his best interest these companies come out of this unscathed. With this community (sealed and graded), the market potential is worth sacrificing ethics and transparency.
@oppiie3980
@oppiie3980 2 жыл бұрын
​ @ForHisGlory It *could* be in his best interest to not support that illegal shit, but that would cost him money by willingly losing significant potential value on his sells. He asserts that money is just a nice side effect for him, but that only applies to *gaining* money; when it's about *losing* money for the sake of morality, that doesn't seem to interest him one bit. It's fine to not want to lose money, but don't beat around the bush: explicitely admit you don't care about the moral issues and move on.
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