Getting gubbed, restricted or banned by bookies, casinos etc. happens to all systematic / successful bettors sooner or later. But can you do anything about it? Find out here! Part 2 here: • The ONLY Solution to G...
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@theaethelred34272 жыл бұрын
Just ride them until the wheels fall off. Start arbing after the gubbing and then shut down when they stake restrict you.
@Paulo-nf7ms Жыл бұрын
THIS. This is the logical conclusion. Thank you. I've spent a week looking into this heavily and absorbing approaches and viewpoints from various KZfaqrs. I'd even started to build myself a system for "priming" accounts to influence the risk level assignment on new accounts before getting going. But actually, you're totally right. You're not going to beat them so simply exploit it fast and hard and then move on. Job done.
@smartmoneyguy Жыл бұрын
For me that's the best solution, except for the actual solution (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z5-leM56ybO2ppc.html) but I'm not sharing that publicly right now. If you know, you know!
@user-jg7ot4xl4n11 ай бұрын
Well I had got my account restricted when I won my bet out of nowhere
@dastanprobg20712 жыл бұрын
Getting grubbed is only main problem for bettors that can make consistent profit, I've been looking for solution to this problem but I didn't find one yet, maybe it doesn't exist or its too complicated.
@smartmoneyguy2 жыл бұрын
I'll be making another video on this soon. :)
@lordfarquard99022 жыл бұрын
Use friends and family you trust. Just ensure they don’t actually live with you and have relevant ID and proof of address. I’ve been going through Manchester for years. Lol
@tqysh Жыл бұрын
@@lordfarquard9902 what bank details do you use then ? do you use their bank details
@vkjaiswal9822 Жыл бұрын
They have restricted me to withdraw my funds .. what I can do know
@yumnambonnymangang8534 Жыл бұрын
@@vkjaiswal9822 which app
@PuckDudesHockey Жыл бұрын
I understand your rationale of "just take the profit and move on". But you'll run out of books eventually, and it still ticks me off that the bookies are allowed to do this. Most bettors are going to lose money... the books make plenty of money off of those folks. An ethical business model would be that the small fraction of winning bettors would constitute part of the "cost of doing business" for the bookmaker. It should either be regulated to prevent them from dropping people like you just for being good, or if not, there should be more pushback from bettors against the books that do this. Videos like this one... so that new potential customers learn up front that they will either lose or get banned! I'm thinking the sports betting industry wouldn't be so successful right now if that message got promoted more. (BTW, have you been banned by Pinnacle? I understand they are supposed to be more open to winners, but I am wondering if that's true or not...)
@smartmoneyguy Жыл бұрын
Don't necessarily have to run out of bookies to bet with, as touched on in these vids: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z5-leM56ybO2ppc.html, kzfaq.info/get/bejne/psqWpKmXsMrapmg.html. Bookies will never be ethical, best we can do is continue to beat them!
@ArmstrongFam11 ай бұрын
I agree you should take what you can from a bookie & move on. However, there are deffinately books that you can get away with more of one thing than another, they all seem to have different things they tollerate longer than others. For example, coral & ladbrokes won't let you boost midweek hourse racing for more than a few days, whereas unibet are fairly tolerant. 365 accounts can go years on 2ups in some cases but your lucky to get a month going after EPs in the same way. It would be useful to have a resource where this is all laid out. I'm figuring it out as I go along but I'll have no accounts left by the time I've cracked it 😂
@smartmoneyguy11 ай бұрын
There are so many personal variables that I don't think one person's data would be particularly useful to all. For me it's not worth the hassle, I just rinse and repeat, since I have the solution to gubbing anyway!
@ArmstrongFam11 ай бұрын
@@smartmoneyguy I'm on the waiting list & excited to talk with you on the inside
@asadamir-selfdevelopment87743 жыл бұрын
Great video. You deserve more
@smartmoneyguy3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words!
@Munnnn86 ай бұрын
I only stake 40£-90£ I’ve never staked anything above 90£. Ofcourse every month is different but on average my month profit is usaully around 200£/400£. I don’t do arbitrage betting or +EV I tend to bet on spreads ofcourse im looking for some value and good odds on my bets I use 3 different bookies 2 get the best odds but i still wouldn’t class it as +EV the way I bet, it’s more just deeply researched picks. but my question is do u think I could stay under the radar for a long time as I’m not taking large amounts from the bookies ?
@smartmoneyguy6 ай бұрын
Don't think amount matters, any systematic betting activity will be spotted eventually. I can't say how long that will take, all bookies are different, hence my motto is make money and move on. You must do what you feel comfortable with.
@sumbaifelix5218 Жыл бұрын
I can finally say I have been blocked by all bookmakers in my country
@bullythebooks Жыл бұрын
So what you can’t bet any more? Can’t you just open new accounts?
@sumbaifelix5218 Жыл бұрын
@@bullythebooks This guys have software that can detect similar betting patterns and at the slightest doubt your account is blocked and you will need verification and that's it you will never be able to withdraw any money in the account so I don't see any need to open any account
@vkjaiswal9822 Жыл бұрын
Account is restricted. . Can I get my withdrawal?
@sumbaifelix5218 Жыл бұрын
@@vkjaiswal9822 I don't think you'll ever get that, forget and move on.
@user-mq4ju3mx7c19 күн бұрын
What are the odds of getting restricted by every online bookmaker out there?
@smartmoneyguy19 күн бұрын
You are extremely likely to get restricted by most bookies with any successful betting system. The people who make big money long-term work their way around this issue. I explain how in my mini course touched on here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/psqWpKmXsMrapmg.html
@mulakane11 ай бұрын
I haven’t even added money on my account yet & I’m already restricted.I tried to pay with Apple Pay but, it started tripping, & all I’ve been doing is watching KZfaq tutorials.
@smkjr.74166 ай бұрын
Thats the thing that there are hundreds of others apps, but i they ban me will i always get my money back?
@smartmoneyguy6 ай бұрын
I can't comment on the policy of every bookmaker. Don't leave money in the accounts to be frozen in the first place. Make your money, withdraw in, repeat.
@waritthornkaewmuang46083 жыл бұрын
I am gubbed not on sportsbook, but in gaming promotion as I seldom sit and play, except on a few low stake live casino bonus. Any chance of getting ungubbed? Play as normal?
@smartmoneyguy3 жыл бұрын
The video says it all. Just move on.
@_Chris_D_3004Ай бұрын
What are the chances of getting limited on every available online bookmaker?
@smartmoneyguyАй бұрын
Impossible to say but the whole point of this video (and part 2 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z5-leM56ybO2ppc.html) is to explore a solution.
@_Chris_D_3004Ай бұрын
@@smartmoneyguy Thanks. I only bet money lines on major US sports so should be ok for a while
@imaadsyed37182 ай бұрын
My question here is, If my account gets banned can I make another account through a different app and continue my betting?
@smartmoneyguy2 ай бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z5-leM56ybO2ppc.html
@rogan-joesloan4513 жыл бұрын
Im an arb bettor not a matched better, but the imfo isstill cool and relervent.
@rogan-joesloan4513 жыл бұрын
Im going to ask how you were banned befeore the sighn up process, that puzzles me as there is only two possible reasons for that.
@smartmoneyguy3 жыл бұрын
I suspect they didn't like my IP for some reason (was using mobile internet at the time).
@rogan-joesloan4513 жыл бұрын
@@smartmoneyguy I was suspecting site cookies, or a comman username.
@lordfarquard99022 жыл бұрын
@@smartmoneyguy If you are using mobile internet the vpn isn’t static. It changes every time you change website. A tip i have if you’re an iPhone user is go to settings > safari > clear history and website data. This is by fair the best method to disguise yourself. You could even do it every time you log out of your bookies account so they can never track you. Maybe add this to your next video. : )
@moeg38289 ай бұрын
Do they give you your money back after suspending/banning your account?
@smartmoneyguy9 ай бұрын
I can't comment on every company policy, but generally they may refuse to pay out if you break terms. Should get your deposits back but even that can be troublesome. Most people withdraw regularly to avoid funds getting 'trapped'.
@africana68962 жыл бұрын
Yeah marathonbet just restricted my stakes.
@alanv3185 Жыл бұрын
What if you're arbing on different sportsbooks?
@smartmoneyguy Жыл бұрын
Sure, I just take the best bets, wherever I can get 'em. Sometimes that's in multiple places. They will all cotton on eventually though. See Part 2 video for more.
@_TJ_0 Жыл бұрын
5:27 did you make another video about this?
@smartmoneyguy Жыл бұрын
Yep, pretty easy to find: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z5-leM56ybO2ppc.html
@DavidWalker-yx2ih2 жыл бұрын
if you have 100dollar in your betting account and you get banned, can u still redeem ur price?
@smartmoneyguy2 жыл бұрын
Depends what you get banned for. Bookies reserve the right to 'freeze' your account if they think something dodgy is going on. They can't take away your deposits but if you're worried about profits just withdraw them frequently.
@DavidWalker-yx2ih2 жыл бұрын
@@smartmoneyguy oh ok th&nks
@driffensodi54 Жыл бұрын
I got banned for requesting withdrawal of all my funds from Suprabets. They say i violated the rules which i don't know
@eddiebrock81542 жыл бұрын
Don't you completely solve the problem by just going to the track in person? The bets are anonymous, at least in the states. Or you can just pay people to place all the bets for you. How is the bookie going to stop you?
@smartmoneyguy2 жыл бұрын
Sure, just go to every track, for every event, every day, in person 😄 Can work with someone else but it will still happen to them as well. Got another video on this coming soon.
@eddiebrock81542 жыл бұрын
@@smartmoneyguy I mean it's guaranteed money. It'd be worth setting up a network of people so bets can be placed at every track. And you could pool your money for bigger profits. Which means there are for sure groups doing this already.
@eddiebrock81542 жыл бұрын
@@smartmoneyguy Also, you can place bets on races going on at tracks other than the one you are currently at.
@smartmoneyguy2 жыл бұрын
@@eddiebrock8154 Sure, you can try doing all that and getting to the front of the queue before the odds change. I prefer the ease of doing it online and accept what comes with it. I'll have another vid soon, which I think you'll be very interested in.
@vkjaiswal9822 Жыл бұрын
They have restricted me to withdraw my funds.. what I can do now .. any help
@smartmoneyguy Жыл бұрын
Contact them and keep asking, should be able to get your deposits back at very least. Don't leave funds in bookies in future...withdraw regularly.
@vkjaiswal9822 Жыл бұрын
Okay they are asking for my salary slip and source of income
@vkjaiswal9822 Жыл бұрын
Yes I made a huge mistake .. by leaving my funds... will they release my funds
@smartmoneyguy Жыл бұрын
@@vkjaiswal9822 I can't answer that for you. Comply with their demands if you feel they are legitimate and worth doing to retrieve the funds. Otherwise, learn your lesson. That's all I can say.
@robinyildirim72114 ай бұрын
If they ban your account can they also take the money that you put in and won?
@smartmoneyguy4 ай бұрын
If your account gets locked so do the funds inside it and you will have a battle to access them. Smart thing to do is withdraw your winnings and deposit again when you want to make a bet.
@robinyildirim72114 ай бұрын
@@smartmoneyguy thanks for you reply, really appreciate it, I also wanted to ask, I’ve put in around 200 and lost and won many bets over the last month but I now see myself on around 1100, without matched betting or doing arbitrary bets. Can they still ban me? Would they have any grounds to do so? Thanks
@smartmoneyguy4 ай бұрын
@@robinyildirim7211 They can ban anyone for any reason. There is no reason to leave funds in your account other than laziness.
@Rudeyes5 ай бұрын
How do they know what you do on exchanges?
@smartmoneyguy5 ай бұрын
Title is 'banned by bookies' not exchanges.
@Rudeyes5 ай бұрын
I know, but how will a bookie know I am laying a bet on the exchange? If I place back bet on bookie, how can they tell if I am match betting??
@smartmoneyguy5 ай бұрын
Any systematic betting is obvious.
@nicholasikwueme85903 жыл бұрын
So a VPN doesn't help?
@smartmoneyguy3 жыл бұрын
You still have to go through account verification so they'll realise it's you. Many bookies block VPN anyway.
@nicholasikwueme85903 жыл бұрын
@@smartmoneyguy yeah they blocked VPN I tried and doesn't really work.
@peterbergman21313 жыл бұрын
The only thing you can do is come back in a different name
@smartmoneyguy3 жыл бұрын
Debatable...I'll actually be making a video on that subject soon, so keep an eye out! :)
@MrAllanfd3 жыл бұрын
You need a different name, i.d., address, bank account, email, phone, and computer/device.
@terryidahor3753 жыл бұрын
When you get banned, do they allow you withdraw your money from the Account?
@smartmoneyguy3 жыл бұрын
I've not had funds withheld. Not something you really need to worry about if you just get gubbed / restricted. If you get permanently banned for something major they might freeze funds depending on the bookie, but again, I don't think it's something you need to worry about.
@colincolverson5562 жыл бұрын
So basically I had my account restricted so can’t log in but I still have funds in my account but this has been going on for 5 weeks now but I’ve also been a loyal customer for like over 10 years so I’m confused please help
@illuminatiaqi61303 жыл бұрын
Can you make video where you actually win
@smartmoneyguy3 жыл бұрын
I've demonstrated systems clearly in other videos.
@@smartmoneyguy Do you play bet on basketball I make most of the money from it no matched needed
@smartmoneyguy3 жыл бұрын
@@illuminatiaqi6130 We're getting away from the topic of the video, but I bet wherever I have an advantage. Thanks for watching, all the best!
@lilianandulana80743 жыл бұрын
How about the exchanges. Do they also ban ?
@smartmoneyguy3 жыл бұрын
Exchanges support matched betting to some extent - they want you to lay selections on their sites because they profit from commission whether you win or lose. Companies like Matchbook are even active on matched betting forums, creating markets for us and encouraging people to take part. It's not impossible to get pulled up if you're doing something really dodgy, but they're not like the bookies in this respect, so I wouldn't worry about it.
@waritthornkaewmuang46083 жыл бұрын
Exchanges do not ban because they still earn commissions from you. You trade against someone else who bears risk, not the exchange.
@lordfarquard99022 жыл бұрын
@@waritthornkaewmuang4608 bookies also don’t bear risk when you gamble against them unless you’re getting better value than SP. they sell off all bets.