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Getting To Know The ENTPs

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Erik Thor

Erik Thor

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The ENTPs flow states:
EN = The Detective
TP = The Hacker
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@alpinemind9977
@alpinemind9977 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds pretty accurate to me. I'd say the worst things about being an ENTP is how rare it is to feel satisfied with something or also how long and unhinged my search for purpose has been.
@SoMelicious
@SoMelicious 7 жыл бұрын
The power dynamics part was right on, as stated by Nirali below. It kind of made me realize that being aware of these power dynamics is what eventually led me to "knock myself to the bottom rung" in almost every social situation and usually right away. Why? Because most people then do not feel the need to participate in the invisible power struggle or ranking that instantly happens. I do this with people I don't know daily and it often results in them telling me some of their worst fears or about low points in their lives even when our meeting is only 20 minutes long and we likely will never see each other again. I was amazed and surprised me when people started "spilling their guts" to me - which I very much love and am honored to hear. I finally realized it's because when I meet people I usually "set the bar low" somehow within the first few minutes by mentioning something stupid I've done or even something huge and hard I went through, although often it's just a light jab at myself. I don't even realize I'm doing it, but the effect is that the power play evaporates - for MOST people. One on one as well - in a group situation it can go many different ways, haha. I think this came from my own experience of social anxiety in some ways as well as awareness of power dynamics. I remember what it felt like to be afraid - to the point of panic - that I would be judged by anything that came out of my mouth. I remember how uncomfortable I would always feel, like everyone around me was so much better than I was for x reasons. I guess, coming out of it, I just embraced that feeling rather than tried to shove it away. Your take on improvisation is also dead on. Nothing energizes an ENTP like being in a situation of "OH SHIT THE ROOF IS ON FIRE" and to be the one people call to put out the flames. Actually being appreciated for that ability + constantly challenged = an ENTP who will be delighted and possibly even content with their line of work! I think the only things that didn't ring true for me you mentioned near the end of the video. I love teaching, be it adults or children. I especially love taking complicated thoughts, processes and ideas and translating them into metaphors to make them easy to grasp by all. I only have met one other ENTP in real life, a former boss, and although that was explosive as it became quickly apparent he could not deal with another ENTP in close orbit, he was extremely skilled at this kind of teaching as well so I'm thinking it could be a common trait. Repetition of that lesson is what will kill an ENTP. Having to teach the same concept over and over. And ENTP would do much better in instructional videos, having to explain things once, than as a real life teacher or professor. This is less true for kids, at least for me, but part of that is probably that the kids I teach are so unpredictable themselves, haha. Also the delivering of messages confused me a little bit. I am constantly gauging people's reactions and using all the minute little details I know about people to predict how they will take something I say. In my old age I have even been learning to modify or completely change my delivery to make my message better received rather than stick to my former brashness, or just keep my mouth shut about certain things to certain people. Perhaps that's just a maturity thing? But it's still Ne in the end. Fe too, but perhaps it just takes ENTPs awhile to realize that they can utilize Ne on themselves as well! The self is often far less interesting than The World and all in it but, if an ENTP has an idea or message, they want it to be heard or received by the intended audience! So again, maybe something realized with maturity and a developing "observing ego." Last thing - what did you mean by rewards? In a situation? Great job, I love your energy and enthusiasm! You seem to spout this stuff off on the fly, even if you have some notes somewhere. Very knowledgeable 👍🏽
@simonbotana2793
@simonbotana2793 7 жыл бұрын
So Melicious I am starting at this world of MBTI and I found your channel, great videos! Especially I liked the video with the lonely island (intp, entp, entj, intj). I also loved the video where you explain our fascination for INTPs (I am an 19 year old entp by the way), because my best friend, who I know since I was almost born (parents are friends) is a great intp. I just found you here and wanted to tell you that you are great.
@xnessayx
@xnessayx 5 жыл бұрын
Same with Power dynamics, I’ll be on a train for 30 minutes and within that time whoever I’m next to will have told me their live story, bearing I mind I’m a 20 y/o female studying engineering and anyone will talk to me men up to 70 have spoke to me and say it’s been delightful speaking to me
@PrettyPatriciia
@PrettyPatriciia 4 жыл бұрын
SPOT ON! Thank you for this comment... I really found myself in it.
@nathanielracine
@nathanielracine 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your commentary on this as well, I seem to be an ENTP and it fits my personality very well, I agree on your point about teaching, I love it and I really do try to be as much of a teacher as I can to the people around me who I feel are worth putting energy into. Although I hate having to explain basic concepts to people who should already know what I'm trying to say, especially at work. Thanks again
@seekeroflight3765
@seekeroflight3765 2 жыл бұрын
Your description matches with my personality almost 99%. Thanks you for knowing my self is an ENTP.
@drivesmecrazy1000
@drivesmecrazy1000 7 жыл бұрын
I am an ENTP and I have been watching videos about my type hoping to find tips to improve my follow through and organization. This was the most accurate description of where I find "flow" I have heard. Very impressive. You earned my subscription.
@stevecraig3004
@stevecraig3004 6 жыл бұрын
Friend, forget about 'follow through' and 'organization.' We ENTPs do do these things; just not like most people do. Enjoy your life, as it is such a screamiing roller coaster ride for ENTPs.
@qianyizhao4295
@qianyizhao4295 4 жыл бұрын
I am a female entp. I like all your videos about entp. However, you mentioned that entp try the most when we are challenged. Actually, I think entp try the most for what we want. What we want is our mativation. I am a graduate student. I find that studying for me is to use my curiousity to explore the unknown. Our learning process is very unique. Our curiosity is enjoying exlporation naturally. Can you make a video about how entp use our curiosity to learn? As an entp, how to take advantage of my curiosity? How to use my curiosity in a better way? I will appreciate it.
@RhysChristian490
@RhysChristian490 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve never felt so understood.
@NiraliMPatel-rd8qp
@NiraliMPatel-rd8qp 7 жыл бұрын
WOW! When you said we have this knack of understanding the role of power dynamics. I always felt I would openly state what I observed constantly as a child about power dynamics and I was just simply . . . outspoken. You're doing a great job and easier to follow because you explain rather than use the language in a sense of the personality types. I can't follow the initials of everything; but you do a great job explaining without making it about yourself. Thanks!
@SoMelicious
@SoMelicious 7 жыл бұрын
Nirali Cooks agreed.
@starrystarrynight52
@starrystarrynight52 6 жыл бұрын
You nailed my entp friend! I would like to add that they are a lot fun to talk to. I'm an intp, I find the fact that the entp also stores so much knowledge and is it not afraid to have unpopular opinions makes for very interesting conversations. I think entps would make great companions for intps. Also, there are things I would have never done without my more outgoing counterpart, which makes my life more fun and interesting, if not a little scary for an introvert like myself, lol. I've watched your other video about entp body language and voice and have to say you've nailed him there too. One first things I noticed about entp friend is that his voice is "bouncy" especially when he is excited or happy about something. It's a very distinguishing characteristic.
@manaking2176
@manaking2176 3 жыл бұрын
If you find an entp learning about the stock market... keep track of their portfolio. Their ability to predict the future can be very profitable.
@JstJaybeingJay
@JstJaybeingJay 3 жыл бұрын
I'm learning about the stock market but I'm more interested in the money than the process/Job so I don't know how long I can do it...
@manaking2176
@manaking2176 3 жыл бұрын
@@JstJaybeingJay if youre looking at the market for income then your system will tend to be consistent, simple to understand and tight in wins and losses. I suggest sticking to one or two indices or forex for that. The best advice i can give you is that every ticker has a personality in terms of the shapes it makes or the movements it makes... once you see that pattern then milk it.
@JstJaybeingJay
@JstJaybeingJay 3 жыл бұрын
@@manaking2176 thanks, if you can elaborate on "every ticker has a personality", that would be nice. Any books/trader you can recommend....other than the most popular ones....
@manaking2176
@manaking2176 3 жыл бұрын
@@JstJaybeingJay example. Msft. If you look at the daily chart going back to September of last year. You'll see a channel. Connect the average of every low point with a trend line then create a parallel line at the average of the peaks. You now a line where you buy and a line where you sell.
@JstJaybeingJay
@JstJaybeingJay 3 жыл бұрын
@@manaking2176 hmmm trend line..... right?
@TheTygertiger
@TheTygertiger 6 жыл бұрын
I disagree with you about the training. I wouldn't want to be a teacher in a school, but I'm always the one at work who volunteers to train people. I'm using my ENTP creativity to figure out how to get people to efficiently learn to use new software or the main procedures of the work. At one job we had to go through a repetitive 3-week training when we started in order to learn an ERP system. We were only taught the order entry part, but not the complaint handling module. I had already worked with a couple of different ERP systems before, so all I needed to learn was how to translate my knowledge into this new system. I was going crazy and rebelling all the time during the training with the repetitiveness of it all. I was actually falling half asleep during many training sessions. So when there were at a later date new people coming to my team, I made sure I got the permission to train them. I got them fully trained and working in 3 weeks, including the complaints handling. I wasn't even training them full-time, only 3 full days of training the basics, then half days training and half days putting them to do actual work while I was doing my own work. So I had them producing value for the company in 3 days and in 3 weeks they could do every part of the job, including the more complex aspects. Quite a change to when I started, since it took 3 weeks before my fellow trainees and I were allowed to do any work in the live system. When I need to learn to use a new piece of software, I do learn quite intuitively. I maybe need to get started with a short explanation of what the software is used for and how you can use it in the basic use case. But then I start using it and I discover what the limits of the software are on my own. I discover in short time tricks which others have never learned, although they have worked with the software for years. I enjoy then teaching those tricks to others. When I teach others, I increase their knowledge level and work capacity. That way I create less irritation for myself. I can't stand it when other people using stupid work methods cause more work for me. I see the connections between them and me and the impact of their work methods on me and the rest of the organization. So I use my ENTP creativity and persuasion to train people in order to come up with a better working solution in the big picture way. It's also a way of playing intellectual one-upmanship which ENTPs are known for.
@stefanroodt1981able
@stefanroodt1981able 3 жыл бұрын
I also really love explaining and training others but very much dislike telling people what to do.
@TheTygertiger
@TheTygertiger 3 жыл бұрын
@@stefanroodt1981able I don't like to tell people what to do either. I am okay with assigning a task to someone but I won't micromanage how they do it. I offer people the tips and tricks to do things better, but whether they choose to use them, it's up to them to decide.
@beautifulday6854
@beautifulday6854 6 жыл бұрын
Inter-mechanical / inter-technical intelligence!! That is soooo descriptive!
@nckisawsome
@nckisawsome 4 жыл бұрын
I understand that this is 3 years old but its spot on for a 24 year old ENTP. The overthinking is much of a curse in some ways, that i have found to be a drag. I do have my two best friends being an ENTJ and ESTJ who put me back on track, and professionally are extraordinary somehow, it works lol.
@BethanyLowe8773
@BethanyLowe8773 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks, this was helpful. i don't know many ENTPs, but I could piece them together from what you said, thinking about the ENFPs and INTPs I've known :)
@GoblinLord
@GoblinLord 7 жыл бұрын
Is it normal for ENTPs to know exactly how to use a tool but the ability to actually use it comes harder(like a bow compass, you can visualize every way to use it and know all the instructions, but doing it is super hard to actually well DO, does this make any sense?)
@JonasAnandaKristiansson
@JonasAnandaKristiansson 6 жыл бұрын
Due to the inferior Se !! :) Same issue applies to INFJ, but not in the same for process, but surely on "getting it physically done".
@wildcardproductions6010
@wildcardproductions6010 5 жыл бұрын
I can confirm that this exactly how it works
@JonasAnandaKristiansson
@JonasAnandaKristiansson 5 жыл бұрын
@Robert Leon Yeah correct, I somehow wrote Se due to the INFJ-mentioning that I had in mind haha!! Ne-ti-fe-si entp
@JonasAnandaKristiansson
@JonasAnandaKristiansson 5 жыл бұрын
"Demon-Se" for you, that is. So that is where the application to physical reality, mechanics becomes.. not as .. clear and easy as it logically and intellectually is in your heads! :D
@stevenfoose4815
@stevenfoose4815 6 жыл бұрын
An ENTPs need to constantly switch it up, which can make focusing difficult, however, like you said, they're always calculating pulling the trigger on the option with the best outcome at the same time looking at all the options ready to switch gears on the fly with no planning. They will also argue just to argue even if they don't believe what the arguing about.
@justink5101
@justink5101 7 жыл бұрын
I wanna see a video of entp and esfj relationship/interaction. I don't find much stuff on it but I know it happens s lot.
@ErikThor
@ErikThor 7 жыл бұрын
More common is ISFJ-ENTP. But ESFJ is a somewhat common option. :) Still got the grounding elements like the ISFJ-ENTP relation, but the ESFJ offers a lot more distractions than the ISFJ can.
@zestyindigo
@zestyindigo 7 жыл бұрын
cool, your descriptions are really nice/relatable, i might have to grab that JUNG book and get schooled PS this video has the wrong patreon link
@jern2216
@jern2216 3 жыл бұрын
If you are native english speaker put it to 1.5 speed. If not native then 1.25.
@WillisChitwood27
@WillisChitwood27 6 жыл бұрын
please tell me what type you are. I love your videos. I am a ENTP
@NikkiBootz
@NikkiBootz 6 жыл бұрын
I think he’s an infj if I remember right... he has a website
@tamtam6717
@tamtam6717 4 жыл бұрын
Willis Chitwood he has mentioned in lots of his videos that he is INFJ
@nefertariwhite
@nefertariwhite 7 жыл бұрын
this. everything in this, Erik, is why i say "definitely" when stating my mbti type is ENTP. 😉 ... spot on
@kosmocookieduster
@kosmocookieduster 7 жыл бұрын
I mostly think that I am INTP, but I've also wondered if I might be ENTP with social anxiety. What would an ENTP's Ne - Fe loop look like?
@ErikThor
@ErikThor 7 жыл бұрын
INTPs are philosophical (reflection of the inner world), ENTPs are detectives (investigation in the real world) and ENTPs are pragmatic where INTPs are perfectionistic. ENTPs in the grip of FJ are more political in their nature, and very humorous and comedic. INTPs in the grip of FJ are more like teachers.
@babydomomylove07
@babydomomylove07 7 жыл бұрын
kosmocookieduster haha I used to think I was an intp too because I have social anxiety as well loI but then again entp's are the most introverted extroverts...🤔
@beautifulday6854
@beautifulday6854 6 жыл бұрын
It's true .... explaining is extremely frustrating and tedious. Another well-intentioned KZfaqr was suggesting that we ENTPers work on getting good at "explaining" to others - yikes! Perhaps taking a minute and using syntax that is clear and going from Part-to-Whole instead of Whole-to-Part chronology in speech? Have any other ENTPs here tried that?
@mattmatti3525
@mattmatti3525 6 жыл бұрын
I don't like the you used hacker to describe an entp because entps are suppose to be open while code is very closed down and must be done a certain way
@ErikThor
@ErikThor 6 жыл бұрын
Hey. I see what you mean. But the truth is, most ENTPs like to play with systems and things with rules, its a good outlet for their thinking, as long as it allows room for creativity. They like to come up with original ways to apply rules and "hack" means basically coming up with ways to use systems outside the way they are intended. Does that help?
@GoTommyBoy
@GoTommyBoy 5 жыл бұрын
You clearly don't know code. Code is hyper flexible. There could be hundreds if not thousands of ways to do a simple thing in computer code.
@amberbamber3195
@amberbamber3195 4 жыл бұрын
@@ErikThor - somehow interpreted this as taking advantage of loopholes within a system, which my mind automatically does, especially when I don't like bureaucratic nonsense
@stefanroodt1981able
@stefanroodt1981able 3 жыл бұрын
@@ErikThor yes. We will find the loopholes and the shortcuts and all the ways. We dont understand the code so we can follow it. We study it so we can get around it.
@mariaarsova3553
@mariaarsova3553 2 жыл бұрын
You should not put an egg with the shell in microwave ☺️... Or you should, but bring someone to clean after 🤭
@RoboticusMusic
@RoboticusMusic 7 жыл бұрын
Interesting concept, but your analysis is quite off. Only an ENTP way of thinking can find the most efficient way to do something after considering all possibilities where as an autistic type like INFJ, INTJ, INTP, ENTJ, ISTP, INFP, will stick to what they know and try to polish a turd first and maybe in old age realize they've wasted their time. As an ENTP I constantly see how everyone around me has already failed unless they get lucky and stumble upon "the golden ticket" before they've really begun down their path because I've mentally simulated all of the possibilities. I don't like to rely on luck but I see most people doing something or arguing some point and estimating how they arrived there by chance it makes me wonder how much of a disadvantage they're at moving forward where they'll compound these thought blunders.
@donnasmith6037
@donnasmith6037 6 жыл бұрын
I feel like a profiler.
@cedricburkhart3738
@cedricburkhart3738 6 жыл бұрын
👽
@aminetber26
@aminetber26 6 жыл бұрын
Entp love short text and simulating content and you do a video of 7min talking about entp with no stimulation im entp im sorry but i will never continue more than 10s
@awyea1801
@awyea1801 5 жыл бұрын
Just use 1.5 or 2x speed :)
@officialcem550
@officialcem550 5 жыл бұрын
Hahaha like me bro 1,5x Speed
@FishopSE
@FishopSE 2 жыл бұрын
Bro your lip movement in your videos look like those Russian reviews translated to English by yourself … just joking or do I
@a.jameel9972
@a.jameel9972 6 жыл бұрын
When you begin the video can you quite down just a little bit.
@FloridaMarlinWrangler
@FloridaMarlinWrangler 2 ай бұрын
Trolls😂 seriously. We like to push buttons and get reactions from people and revel in the moment. Speaking of trolling we do so to get people inspired to come on board our boat of exploration to learn grow and improve. People who dont care about self improvement might as well rot in terdville because those are the ones that have a problem in terdville. Sorry erik, i trolled your channel. Now im going to go troll someone else
@topkek670
@topkek670 2 жыл бұрын
hwhhe you dont like entps xD
@ErikThor
@ErikThor 2 жыл бұрын
but i do
@nathanaelmasuka7685
@nathanaelmasuka7685 4 жыл бұрын
These videos would be shorter if he didn't say this same thing 455 times everytime
@FishopSE
@FishopSE 2 жыл бұрын
Bro your lip movement in your videos look like those Russian reviews translated to English by yourself … just joking or do I
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