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Getting Your Lazy Horse Forward

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Dressage Training TV

Dressage Training TV

5 жыл бұрын

In this short clip from our "On The Bit" course, Mary Wanless looks at the way riders can use their leg more effectively when encouraging the horse forward.
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@theelvenprince6701
@theelvenprince6701 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, when Mary said that by nagging I'm "filling in for what he is not doing" I felt that hitting way too close to home! I have to try changing my mindset like this for the next training.
@xXxKarina00xXx
@xXxKarina00xXx 3 жыл бұрын
I like that you say that the horse also has responsibility in this partnership!
@ireallyneedsleep6239
@ireallyneedsleep6239 4 жыл бұрын
What I find really funny in this types of videos is that they don't really have a lazy horse, that is disobedient and unresponsive, what they have is MAYBE lazy horse, not a real one. I don't hate the advice that she gave, and it did work whith my younger and more sensitive mare, but doesn't with my older (12yo) gelding.
@barbaracvincent3566
@barbaracvincent3566 5 жыл бұрын
I was excited to try this with my lazy horse today, but it had little effect. I've tried spurs, which work a bit better, but still feel I have to use so much leg that my balance and position suffers. I think my horse is just not thrilled trotting and cantering circles.
@Telindra
@Telindra 5 жыл бұрын
Is the horse as "lazy" to listen and lacks drive also when you ride out on the trail? If not, consider riding dressage out on the trail instead for a while. You could also do the warm up in the arena then surprise your horse with riding out. If you suspect your horse is bored with the arena try to figure out how you could change that for the horse. It's all psychology. Also consider if your horse has turned numb, and become desensitized from too much nagging and kicking in the past. It is often the case, and turning that around is absolutely possible - but it requires time and effort on your behalf. You got to teach your horse the proper meaning of pressure and release again, and you yourself has to work on your timing skills. In order to be able to recognize when the horse is trying to listen to you, and reward it quick enough. There are no quick fixes. Non that works long term anyway.
@kimsechrist4139
@kimsechrist4139 5 жыл бұрын
If you are doing it until your balance suffers, then it may be time to call a trainer. It's just like she said, don't let the horse dictate what it does. Your horse may not be thrilled about circles, but you're the human, you dictate go. You're letting yourself become baggage for your horse. Sorry if I'm being harsh.
@Telindra
@Telindra 5 жыл бұрын
@@kimsechrist4139 it can absolutely be part of the issue for her that she has let herself become the horses luggage. But. To be honest, most of the time it IS an issue of the rider constantly nagging and putting pressure on the horse. I've ridden a horse now for about a year which were SO DAMN LAZY you wouldn't believe it. 30minutes in the arena and I were soaked through with sweat. Constantly having to drive drive drive, and she was just absurdly numb to my leg and seat as well. Plus, that horse were seriously bored to death with spending time in the arena. So she just turned her brains off and zoned out. She's another horse now after I've been the one riding her for this long were I've worked with teaching her the concept of pressure and release again. She has become almost as supple as I want her regarding using leg aids, but still got quite a bit to go regarding listening to the riders seat. Another fix for this lazy horse has been riding out, a lot, and not asking too much when being on the arena. This horse were even lazy out on the trails at the beginning, but now it's almost the opposite! Perhaps too much drive sometimes. She's a lot more alert on the arena, and it is getting easier and easier to get her forward. Doesn't need a lot of work from my part anymore. The difference is huge now compared to when I began riding her.
@kimsechrist4139
@kimsechrist4139 5 жыл бұрын
@@Telindra Right, I just meant it kind of generically. Like, for whatever reason, the horse is doing what it wants instead of what the rider says, so the horse is just carrying them around. Could totally be nagging. That's why I advised a trainer to Barbara, and possibly some more riding lessons for your mentioned owner. If they can't keep their feet right, riding may not be for them.
@Telindra
@Telindra 5 жыл бұрын
@@kimsechrist4139 a good instructor is worth its weight in gold, will definitely help any rider. The owner to the horse I am riding is a beginner rider in a lot of ways, she hasn't been riding for that many years and is self taught. Pretty much. She do see a instructor every now and then, but not often enough to see speedy improvements in her riding. However since we are riding together now (she owns two horses) I help her a lot, reminds her to be wary of what her legs and feet are doing. Help her to become aware that she's falling into chair seat. And steered her into thinking about rider biomechanics which in turn have helped us both, she got some back and hip issues, and I've struggled a lot with a stiff hipjoint which made me do some srsly odd stuff with my seat bone in that side. However I do feel that I am taking the riding and fixing my own body issues a lot more seriously than she does, thus making greater leaps in my own progress. I am always concerned about the horse I am riding, and the horses experience of being ridden.
@shahadalmakkivlogs7684
@shahadalmakkivlogs7684 5 жыл бұрын
I love this lady I appreciate her
@Dylan-ez5qx
@Dylan-ez5qx 4 жыл бұрын
i always yell 'big kick! lol
@treelore5100
@treelore5100 3 жыл бұрын
will give this a go!! happens at trot which makes it harder to get that movement you described.
@craftyschleichcreater3505
@craftyschleichcreater3505 3 жыл бұрын
So much help. Thank you. :)
@happygolucky5855
@happygolucky5855 2 жыл бұрын
I was today years old when i found out “kicking” didnt mean you wack your legs on the horses side. Im only a new rider and i feel so mean and dumb rn hahahaha.
@freshmystic2613
@freshmystic2613 2 жыл бұрын
L.O.L. Yes, so true! Thank you!
@britneyfirehunter8984
@britneyfirehunter8984 3 жыл бұрын
My horse won’t trot! You may be thinking my horse is very lazy but instead he just canters! When you ask for a trot he roper leaps into the canter, I’ve learned to only squeeze or else he will take off, it’s difficult because is canter is very huge and hard to sit, he used to not even want to walk! He got injured and then we let him recover, as we started riding him we noticed his change in behavior, he does this canter thing so you have to stop him and he doesn’t have to work.
@louiselockyer7695
@louiselockyer7695 3 жыл бұрын
there will be a short window where the transition from walk to canter is where he will trot. Try to lengthen that window, find the perfect speed and dont stop until you get his trot. If he literally just will not trot, I'd recommend doing some groundwork with him, lung him and get those transitions going. Also think about pressure and release, release is the reward, when he gives you what you want, reward. Hope this helps!
@countchocula5379
@countchocula5379 2 жыл бұрын
Check out Dr Audrey DeClues podcast. There is a biomechanics reason for exactly what you are describing. All too often people say “kick the horse” “the horse is running the show and being stubborn” etc… when really they are in PAIN. Anyway, lots of AMAZING information that I think every horse person, especially equestrians NEED to be aware of. (From one equestrian/ horse advocate to another.) Dr Geoff Tucker with the “Horses Advocate” website is also AMAZING! God bless you and yours friend!
@gerrycoleman7290
@gerrycoleman7290 2 жыл бұрын
It is not the horse. It is the human.
@malinam8024
@malinam8024 3 жыл бұрын
Okay so I need help, I have to ride this extremely lazy draft horse for 4-H shows- and he won’t move unless he sees the arena gate open, then he takes a run for it!! I’ve tried flexing him and even still he won’t listen to me! I’ve been riding for 4 years and this is my first draft horse ever so I kinda need help lmao
@4jazlie
@4jazlie 3 жыл бұрын
Hes bored of the Arena :) read some other replies in this comment section!!
@thatdairykid1461
@thatdairykid1461 2 жыл бұрын
Dose your horse drive. I find with my driveing horses(percherons) that when your riding them and trying to get them to go can be hard. If so I find that voice commands, les leg, and different amounts of contact in their mouth, (less contact to go, more contact to stop) can help. I do 4-H as well and I with I could ride one of my drafts to the gymkhanas. Good luck!
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