Giant rubber powered airplane wins national championship!

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joshuawfinn

joshuawfinn

2 жыл бұрын

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@jamesjacocks6221
@jamesjacocks6221 2 жыл бұрын
First time I saw this gossamer aircraft I fell in love. Bud was flying it at Taft a few years ago. I wondered about the portability but that seems under control. Splendid machine, great offering. Thanks to Josh, Hope and especially Bud.
@joshuawfinn
@joshuawfinn 2 жыл бұрын
Bud is a national treasure!
@davidunderwood1907
@davidunderwood1907 2 жыл бұрын
Can't believe KZfaq didn't show me this sooner. Been out for 9mon....so rad
@kayeninetwo3585
@kayeninetwo3585 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on your win! Such a big beautiful bird. It seems to defy gravity.
@Jimmy-Legs
@Jimmy-Legs Жыл бұрын
Use to build rubber models with my dad. I think I actually built that model at one time minus the timer. Brings back fond memories. Thanks.
@lumen5973
@lumen5973 2 жыл бұрын
So cool how people have so many different ideas. Spending time with something trying to make it work. That's what makes us develop great things
@Glicksman1
@Glicksman1 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! What a great performance! You should call it "the Long Walk". I fully understand about the pure free-flight part of our hobby and all, but if ever a model needed R/C rudder assist, this is the one. Some time ago I built a 3-channel Lanzo Bomber with an old Astro .05 geared motor. It climbed nearly vertically and just would not come down. Into the slightest breeze, it hung there like a kite and caught every bit of thermal activity in the sky. I had to spin it down to recover it. I won (I should say IT won) every club duration and timed landing contest until I retired it from competition to give the others in my club a chance. This airplane electrified would be a killer competitor as well. Thanks, Josh.
@davidunderwood1907
@davidunderwood1907 2 жыл бұрын
I'd buy a kit
@me262a1
@me262a1 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats! Best advertising ever."You to can be a national champ"
@sericono9077
@sericono9077 8 ай бұрын
Sincere Congratulations. I have watched many of your videos and only can say that your passion and talent for building these wonderful models are a true inspiration for everyone. Thank you for sharing the videos and keep doing the fantastic job you do. Kindest regards from Canada.
@joshuawfinn
@joshuawfinn 8 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@woutmoerman711
@woutmoerman711 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video, Joshua. Thanks for sharing!
@frankflstf
@frankflstf 10 ай бұрын
I can’t even begin too tell ya how much I appreciate what you’re doing and the long high flights you guys pull off 👍💪🔥✈️
@joshuawfinn
@joshuawfinn 10 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@triskellian
@triskellian 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful flight videos Josh; she's a real floater! I had to laugh when you were test gliding that model. It's glide ratio was so good, one could lose it in the weeds from just a hand throw!🙂
@dwightbrown2808
@dwightbrown2808 Жыл бұрын
Why would they be worried about wire bracing?
@xavim367
@xavim367 Жыл бұрын
Amazing rubber powered airplane! great design
@slingshotrc4634
@slingshotrc4634 2 жыл бұрын
Another title! Great job Joshua.
@flamencoprof
@flamencoprof 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. As a lad in the early Sixties I built a few balsa and tissue rubber powered models. I don't think I ever got more than 10 seconds out of them TBH. This is amazing. Thanks for posting this.
@joshuawfinn
@joshuawfinn 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Endurance models like this one are actually quite easy to fly. Most folks try to get started with scale planes and rightly get discouraged because they are very difficult to get flying.
@gim8756
@gim8756 25 күн бұрын
it flew like a champion, awesome work!!!
@markpedwell1250
@markpedwell1250 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, your the man , really enjoyed the video.
@brianamato1078
@brianamato1078 2 жыл бұрын
Boy.....that's just great Josh!
@MasboyRC
@MasboyRC 2 жыл бұрын
Ohh.. man, you're absolutely right
@e-rj8984
@e-rj8984 2 жыл бұрын
Free Flight can't be more Beautiful than this 👍 Congratulations Josh with Your wonderful plane 🌷🇺🇲
@joshuawfinn
@joshuawfinn 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Tom-wl9sx
@Tom-wl9sx 2 жыл бұрын
Just awesome 👌 Think I'll have to buy and build one! Really a great flyer 🙃
@joanofarc1338
@joanofarc1338 2 жыл бұрын
Hey I flew fighters in the USAF for 20 years, the last one being the A-10. Then mostly 737’s for USAirways. Here’s what I see. Your aerodynamics seem to be as perfect as you can get them. Since there is no pilot who can re-trim as RPM decreases, the aircraft has to be very aerodynamically sound. I was very impressed how the aircraft was able to stall and recover on its own with minimum loss of altitude. That’s one heck of a design with outstanding trim adjustments by the owner to get it just right. Very impressive and fun to watch, pure flight! Perhaps Joan of Arc bares some explanation. She is the Patron Saint of Soldiers, and I honor her because she got me through some tough spots over Iraq. Guineas are great, they love to eat ticks!
@timothydavey2406
@timothydavey2406 2 жыл бұрын
Superb Josh- congratulations
@FFND16N
@FFND16N 2 жыл бұрын
Nice flight time...congratulations!
@crashrr2993
@crashrr2993 2 жыл бұрын
I luv dat anti-gravity ship!! Congratulations!
@flykansas
@flykansas 2 жыл бұрын
That is simply fantastic.
@GrotrianSeiler
@GrotrianSeiler 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful!
@innovatorx2112
@innovatorx2112 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations sir for your victory ✌️ 🇺🇸🎉✨😇
@Yelnats101
@Yelnats101 2 жыл бұрын
dude. i want to build this, i built something like it in the 90's for a high school comp. but now im 49 and this video made me remember it! you made me reconnect with my younger me
@joshuawfinn
@joshuawfinn 2 жыл бұрын
The water's fine, jump right in!
@mobilemarshall
@mobilemarshall 2 жыл бұрын
nice job, tuned to perfection
@MasboyRC
@MasboyRC 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, this is so cool 👍
@undiaencasa
@undiaencasa 2 жыл бұрын
Impresionante capacidad y rendimiento de ese aeromodelo. Saludos cordiales desde España.
@ginginthing
@ginginthing Жыл бұрын
This is a great plane and I like the way it flies. I was into rubber FF in the 69's and 70's and even got to meet Bob Dunham and go to his home in 72 when I lived in Ok. What a fine gentleman and superstar to me. Got to see his micro film indoor planes which were a work of art. Went to powered FF after that for a bunch of years with some Bill Hunter of Satellite City elliptical wing designs. Eventually we ran out of flight fields that were within practical distances.
@joshuawfinn
@joshuawfinn Жыл бұрын
I correspond quite regularly with Robert Dunham II. He's been a regular customer and a great advisor on our AMA Gas projects. I'm most of the way done trimming a Satellite 788, really nice flying airplane with a K&B 7.5. I understand your problems finding suitable fields...my solution has been to invest in RDT technology so I can trim on very small fields. Also Cat III maxes are short enough to be workable in decent weather, though I'd much prefer to have Lowry Range at my regular disposal instead of the 24 hr drive it is each way.
@MasterBlud
@MasterBlud 2 жыл бұрын
That is fantastic!
@gwheyduke
@gwheyduke 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations well done.
@arnehusby1420
@arnehusby1420 2 жыл бұрын
Really nice! Watch out for the threes! They love the smell of Balsa. We always bring along long sticks when we are flying. In the winter it is safe, flying on the frozen lakes.
@joshuawfinn
@joshuawfinn 2 жыл бұрын
Corn is as bad or worse...it cut the crap out of me retrieving this thing at the Nats.
@tomcoryell
@tomcoryell Жыл бұрын
Amazing plane sir!
@robertdroner
@robertdroner 2 жыл бұрын
This is awesome. Very cool sir.
@gordonkrueger3087
@gordonkrueger3087 2 жыл бұрын
Nice, good to see an old Cloud dusters model do so well. I have not seen Bud in years, Glad to hear he is still flying. I will have to stop byTaft one of these days again. I never did the Dawn Patrol thing, mostly Wakefield and Electric stuff...that motor run time! :-)
@joshuawfinn
@joshuawfinn 2 жыл бұрын
Bud was at the Nats this year and flew up a storm. Unfortunately his Dawn Patrol crashed on launch so I didn't get the two of them in the air together.
@gordonkrueger3087
@gordonkrueger3087 2 жыл бұрын
@@joshuawfinn Oops, said Taft and meant Lost Hills....Never get old , I will have to look at your Old time stuff. Jusr saw the Gypsy one, interesting. Glad to hear Bus is still getting out there. StaySafe/GPK pK
@melbournesubtropicfruits9474
@melbournesubtropicfruits9474 2 жыл бұрын
You forgot to say but here in Australia we call that Open Rubber but never seen a 4min motor run and a 3min Max but glad you got the climb trim correct at the end - well done.
@joshuawfinn
@joshuawfinn 2 жыл бұрын
I'm unfortunately not terribly familiar with Open Rubber per AUS rules. Would love to know more about contest format and dominant designs!
@hertzair1186
@hertzair1186 2 жыл бұрын
Very brave flying amongst trees!
@hefy2jefy
@hefy2jefy Жыл бұрын
As a kid Wakefield models were pretty much the pinnacle of aero modelling. Been through power free flight, R/C, even a helicopter. Great to come full circle back to these elegant designs.
@joshuawfinn
@joshuawfinn Жыл бұрын
Big rubber models are just plain fun. I can never get enough of flying them.
@goaskmymom1350
@goaskmymom1350 10 ай бұрын
Spent my retirement on RC foamy's. Hung em up years ago. Shouldn't have watched this. I'd like to get into it. My wife's going to kill me tho! 😅
@jimbos3421
@jimbos3421 2 жыл бұрын
That was awesome!
@SubTroppo
@SubTroppo 2 жыл бұрын
Those guineafowl made it for me.I'm glad you didn't do a professional edit. Rest In Fox.
@kurttate9446
@kurttate9446 2 жыл бұрын
Fire that cat!
@claudearthur4532
@claudearthur4532 7 ай бұрын
These planes have their own special kind of gracefulness.
@joshuawfinn
@joshuawfinn 7 ай бұрын
Yes they do!
@samuelhopely4853
@samuelhopely4853 2 жыл бұрын
This really is the most captivating sport, there's just something about it that brings us closer to our primal envy of birds. Thanks for making such beautiful things Josh. Someday I'm sure I'll give this hobby a try, and I'm sure my house will look like yours after not too long!
@joshuawfinn
@joshuawfinn 2 жыл бұрын
That really is the heart of it. I can't understand what it is I love so much about freeflight, but the sight of a rubber model in a thermal has never gotten old to me. It's just astounding to see it work the air.
@user-gk7ro1il5e
@user-gk7ro1il5e 2 жыл бұрын
@@joshuawfinn, 👍👍👍👏👏👏🤝🙂
@alien4x487
@alien4x487 2 жыл бұрын
Daaaang, always being COOL!!!!
@ryanfritts1574
@ryanfritts1574 2 жыл бұрын
Them birds bro love free flight
@riazhassan6570
@riazhassan6570 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! That is some machine!
@magnusericsson8684
@magnusericsson8684 2 жыл бұрын
Huuuge, flies like a heliumfilled dream
@chrismofer
@chrismofer 2 жыл бұрын
super cool and impressive flight time
@tyronemarcucci8395
@tyronemarcucci8395 Жыл бұрын
Back in the 70's I built one almost that big. It was a John Gard design.. A blast to build, never did get it to fly like I wanted.
@joshuawfinn
@joshuawfinn Жыл бұрын
Would love to have plans for that. John Gard was a legend.
@powerhousepaperairplanesrogers
@powerhousepaperairplanesrogers 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats
@riazhassan6570
@riazhassan6570 2 жыл бұрын
Joshua, master of all kinds of flight, but especially of slow, floating flight. Remember his winning indoor machine? It hardly moved through the air
@alexseed3200
@alexseed3200 Жыл бұрын
@6.45 you even managed to get the Sun Dogs in frame. Beautiful plane
@joshuawfinn
@joshuawfinn Жыл бұрын
Yeah I was really fortunate to get ideal conditions.
@goku445
@goku445 2 жыл бұрын
Incredible.
@LawernceSimmons
@LawernceSimmons 11 ай бұрын
WoW!! Just Wow!!
@rcfred_689
@rcfred_689 2 жыл бұрын
cool airplane - flies great
@sharpnr445
@sharpnr445 Жыл бұрын
like a giant penny-weight plane beautiful flight
@higgs923
@higgs923 Жыл бұрын
Flew Wakefield with the late Bob White. There's mad joy to those monsters.
@joshuawfinn
@joshuawfinn Жыл бұрын
Bob was amazing. Sad I never met him. I've got a couple of mulvihills based of his design...they fly wonderfully.
@ryanfritts1574
@ryanfritts1574 2 жыл бұрын
Once they catch there is no greater feeling
@javiermonreal593
@javiermonreal593 2 жыл бұрын
Que elegancia tiene en vuelo.. Felicidades Joshua 👏👏👏. Donde está situado el centro de gravedad? (CG)
@joshuawfinn
@joshuawfinn 2 жыл бұрын
I dont remember where I put the CG. I believe I have it marked on the plans. This one is very forgiving of incorrect CG though.
@gyro43
@gyro43 Жыл бұрын
Majestic flyer, the wing loading must be miniscule.
@joshuawfinn
@joshuawfinn Жыл бұрын
It's quite low, but also has a phenomenally well tuned airfoil. Now a two time Nats winner to boot.
@paulchapman7169
@paulchapman7169 2 жыл бұрын
Nice sun dogs....and aeroplane.
@joshuawfinn
@joshuawfinn 2 жыл бұрын
Somewhere I've got a still shot of it passing the sundogs. An amazing view!
@HobiCerdas
@HobiCerdas 2 жыл бұрын
That is big 🤩🤩🤩
@joshuawfinn
@joshuawfinn 2 жыл бұрын
I've gotta build an even bigger one now!
@truebalsamodeller5382
@truebalsamodeller5382 2 жыл бұрын
Oh Wow...I don't think I want one, I think I NEED one of these! Totally understand that the prop assembly isn't included in the short kit, but are the prop and rubber specs included on the plan?
@joshuawfinn
@joshuawfinn 2 жыл бұрын
The specs for Bud's setup are on the plan, and I'm more than happy to provide details on my own setup which is slightly different.
@goku445
@goku445 2 жыл бұрын
@@joshuawfinn You're awesome
@alfredobarrios4356
@alfredobarrios4356 2 жыл бұрын
Buenisimo
@Pesawattenagakaretjakarta88
@Pesawattenagakaretjakarta88 2 жыл бұрын
wow what a big plane
@RCPlaneAddict
@RCPlaneAddict 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing plane, but Josh you have to do something about those crazy birds!
@joshuawfinn
@joshuawfinn 2 жыл бұрын
Hey they keep the ants at bay so I give them a lot of leeway. ;)
@GCharlesLangisChip
@GCharlesLangisChip 2 жыл бұрын
I've been following since finding you thru flitetest. Great content. I gotta ask what kind of birds were those?
@joshuawfinn
@joshuawfinn 2 жыл бұрын
They're Guineas. Unfortunately since I recorded the intro, a fox killed them. Farm life can be unpleasant.
@GCharlesLangisChip
@GCharlesLangisChip 2 жыл бұрын
@@joshuawfinn I thought that was what they were, sorry for your loss .I would have said as much but I wasn't aware of the spelling thanks for the answere. The buddha teaches any life lived will suffer. Farm life puts right in your face though. Cool content thanks again.
@fonwoolridge
@fonwoolridge 2 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@savage22bolt32
@savage22bolt32 2 жыл бұрын
You get your exercise every time you have a good flight.
@joshuawfinn
@joshuawfinn 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely. Both times we've would it up for contest flights, there have been vehicles involved in retrieving it. Drift at Nationals was severe this year and it was almost a mile and a half downrange when it landed in that corn. Thankfully we rented a golf cart for the week!
@rickyonovitz3214
@rickyonovitz3214 2 жыл бұрын
Wow that’s amazing. Are you sure this is earths atmosphere?......
@user-gk7ro1il5e
@user-gk7ro1il5e 2 жыл бұрын
Very, very, very beautiful 👍👍👍🙂
@Aromodelismo
@Aromodelismo 2 жыл бұрын
faltou um pouco de peso no naris ele ficou fora do CG mais ficou muito bom voou muito parabéns ...eu sou facinado por aeromodelo tenho mas é controlado nao de cordas mas ficou supimpa ,,
@toneault7499
@toneault7499 2 жыл бұрын
well done ... uk'
@zonabeltv1180
@zonabeltv1180 2 жыл бұрын
god job
@stomptheelites
@stomptheelites 2 жыл бұрын
I Subbed, very cool plane ✈
@joshuawfinn
@joshuawfinn 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome! Let me know what else you'd like to see!
@WayneMcNab
@WayneMcNab Жыл бұрын
Hi Joshua. What are you using for covering?
@joshuawfinn
@joshuawfinn Жыл бұрын
It's 1/2 mil mylar used for photo printing, hence the 3 color pigment.
@gwheyduke
@gwheyduke 2 жыл бұрын
Need'a get'cha a bush hog out there Josh !
@samsly8464
@samsly8464 2 жыл бұрын
WOW...! That cat really didn't give a dam about those birds.......
@phils6926
@phils6926 Жыл бұрын
Lovely. I wonder what the birds (guinea fowl?) were saying? "go on, chuck it"
@joshuawfinn
@joshuawfinn Жыл бұрын
Probably something more along the lines of "it's been 5 minutes since last feeding, you dolt!"
@zecsabbath7160
@zecsabbath7160 2 жыл бұрын
sem RC fica dificil.....quando cai, tem que ir buscar no japão ....
@renelaplanche7201
@renelaplanche7201 Жыл бұрын
Un vrai saut à l’élastique 😂
@thesleuthinvestor2251
@thesleuthinvestor2251 Жыл бұрын
Less than 100 grams for the airframe! That's incredibly light! But this of course must be before the covering... Still, most impressive. And a very graceful glide.
@joshuawfinn
@joshuawfinn Жыл бұрын
1/4 mil mylar on the wings, even lighter on the tail. Polyspan on the fuselage isn't exactly light but it's needed. But yes, airframe well under 100g complete with DT and tracking beacon. I'm still flying this bird, it's got quite a career now.
@tsclly2377
@tsclly2377 Жыл бұрын
Next.. a twin boom version
@davidstambaugh569
@davidstambaugh569 2 жыл бұрын
Am I safe in assuming that the reason for the term dawn is that flights are made prior to trigger time.
@joshuawfinn
@joshuawfinn 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah we fly them at dawn to minimize thermals.
@Noold
@Noold 7 ай бұрын
is it possible to add a single control point (rudder for instance) and still keep weight low enough for 4+ minute flights?
@joshuawfinn
@joshuawfinn 7 ай бұрын
Absolutely. :)
@engleharddinglefester4285
@engleharddinglefester4285 4 ай бұрын
Man that's a floater.
@friarrodneyburnap8680
@friarrodneyburnap8680 Жыл бұрын
Is there such a thing as Control line rubber power models...?
@joshuawfinn
@joshuawfinn Жыл бұрын
There was a Stanzel kit for one long ago. Also so-called Round the Pole flying used to be popular indoors, mainly in England. They used to race them that way at the US Indoor Nats.
@TweakRacer
@TweakRacer 2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the RCM sctratchbuild plan, the Rubber Guppy.
@joshuawfinn
@joshuawfinn 2 жыл бұрын
If you have any details on the Rubber Guppy, please send to joshuawfinn@gmail.com because I cannot find ANYTHING about it online, including the various rcm databases.
@TweakRacer
@TweakRacer 2 жыл бұрын
@@joshuawfinn Will do. I just checked and couldn't find it either. It was from a long time ago, circa 1990. Old timey rubber-powered free flight looking plane, but with rudder/elevator R/C control.
@TweakRacer
@TweakRacer 2 жыл бұрын
@@joshuawfinn Now you got me really curious. Just checked out a bunch of RCM and MAN archive sites and RCG. Maybe it was Model Builder magazine? Will keep looking.
@PaulMacklinAmazing
@PaulMacklinAmazing 2 жыл бұрын
that thing is soooo floaty
@charlesblithfield6182
@charlesblithfield6182 Жыл бұрын
Can this be adapted to have a small motor, batteries and RC controls? I am interested in this kind of design for ultra long range waypoint guided powered flights.
@joshuawfinn
@joshuawfinn Жыл бұрын
Yeah you could definitely do that. It would be a real floater. A lightweight F5K power system would be plenty of power for it.
@warchitect73
@warchitect73 2 жыл бұрын
did you have some grouse just roll over your area at 2:22?! awesome
@joshuawfinn
@joshuawfinn 2 жыл бұрын
Guineas. We keep them to control the ants.
@amoledzeppelin
@amoledzeppelin 2 жыл бұрын
So that's what agent Smith did in his pastime...
@joshuawfinn
@joshuawfinn 2 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha!
@senorjp21
@senorjp21 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing glide performance. If you get that thing into a thermal it will be gone.
@joshuawfinn
@joshuawfinn 2 жыл бұрын
That's why we use the DT on test flights. For dawn flyoffs, you just let it go and chase it across the countryside.
@wmden1
@wmden1 11 ай бұрын
Love the photobombing guineas.
@WilliamParmley
@WilliamParmley Жыл бұрын
What's cooler, the airplane or the helmeted guineafowl? 😁😎
@niatkuring4999
@niatkuring4999 2 жыл бұрын
That's why the Chenel copy is GAMING looking for hard work and getting mass layoffs.
@MrJdsenior
@MrJdsenior 2 жыл бұрын
NICE! Not totally a fan of turbulator 'spars' but for that application they probably make perfect sense. Hey the birds have wings, give 'em some respect, dude. :-) The unpowered sink rate on that thing is insane. Maybe you should consider injecting hydrogen into the wing and fuse before flight...I'm only 3/4s kidding here.
@joshuawfinn
@joshuawfinn 2 жыл бұрын
Turbulator spars are great on slow planes and provide some extra rigidity, but they definitely detract at higher speeds. For planes like this that live in a narrow speed range, they're perfect.
@MrJdsenior
@MrJdsenior 2 жыл бұрын
@@joshuawfinn I've never seen any L/D data on a wing done that way, but if you find that in actual use it probably is so, and as I said likely more applicable to your requirements. You guys really are in about as narrow a speed range as it gets. Congrats on the win. I had turbulators just like that on my SD100 RC sailplane and I modified it to a thin balsa surface, undercutting the ribs to maintain the airfoil shape. I liked the result. Yes, it flew a MUCH wider speed range, though, probably 13:1 on severe dives carrying some ballast vs floating it in min weight config, and the mod cost me very little weight penalty, as the weight unit involved pounds, not grams. :-) Thx for taking the time to answer. I spent many many hours as a kid flying small HLGs and found this rubber free flight a joy to watch. We got about 20 seconds on good non thermal assisted flights, and lost many of them into thermals that took them up right out of sight. I even got one back after a 20 min flight once that never got to high to see (we followed it) and probably involved at least two different thermals. It didn't happen frequently enough to make a DT worthwhile, though. Have you ever tried paraballoons? Those were a lot of fun, too in a place with heavy thermal activity (Central Fl for us).
@polylight
@polylight 2 жыл бұрын
100g for this ship? Do you do apprenticeships?
@joshuawfinn
@joshuawfinn 2 жыл бұрын
We don't have any internships at the moment but I'd like to someday.
@dodgebob1
@dodgebob1 Жыл бұрын
Trees and airplanes..bad juju..made me nervous
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