In case anyone is wonder, this is the original campaign (unmodded version). The one with Duke and other heroes added in are additions by Executor Nral (and I also approve of it as I welcome others to mod said maps if they see it fit. Plus, he added voice acting and custom voicelines which for the most part I like 🙂) Also for mission objectives in killing structures, generally you are only required to kill the production facilities (CC/Rax/Factory/Starport) to count as destroying the enemy (in all missions with that requirement). Also, I find it funny because AIs have map hacks, so Kerrigan being the only remaining target means the AI army just moves to her location while cloaked.

I think we won White ally AI: *kills Kerrigan* Indeed we've won.

Maybe it should say that Raynor has retreated rather than died, it's kinda silly how he keeps dying in every mission. :p Note to self: If chased by Grant, remain perfectly still because he hunts by seeing movement.

i think the "starcraft 1 blindness" you talked about is because units in SC1 dont have idle animations. scvs just stand still and blend into the environment.

That scan revealing the depots has me rolling :D

34:24 Ms. Pacman was a sequel to the original and had a number of differences, primarily the map shapes were different and the progression between maps was different, but there were also moving bonus fruit instead of static bonuses in the middle, improved ghost AI (the four ghosts were coded to move with different levels of aggression and random movement after their initial random patterns on release from their jail, some heading directly towards you constantly and others behaving erratically), some new small story cutscenes between levels, and the orange ghost was named Sue instead of Clyde (latter versions made her purple to make it easier to tell her apart from red and pink/Blinky and Pinky). Ms. Pacman is widely regarded as the best Pacman game, and is a marked improvement on the original.

"duke has ....... an interestingly shaped base" XD

Seeing grant talk about being bad at sc1 and missing sc2's comforts literally as he's grabbing ship weapons instead of vehicle armor again is such peak ggg lol. Love to see it

26:24 A small hint was that White’s forces were crowding around Kerrigan. This will happen with the AI if you have a cloaked unit. This did also happen in a few of Grant’s challenges.

"When things are not moving, they are actually really hard to see" Giant Grant confirmed to be a T-rex

Let's face it, starcraft 1 basically has two modes. "Dead broke" and "help my coffers are overflowing".

Kerrigan was part of the fight with Orange (you could hear the ghost shots), but when orange lost all their buildings, she stopped attacking but didn't de-cloak. Then she ran out of energy and white killed her.

Hey to be fair, us players love our marines too. Man with gun just can't be beat.

Grant: "I do prefer how slow building die in SC1 as opposed to SC2." Cracklings: "Hold my mineral."

Ms pacman has 4 major gameplay differences from Pacman Ms Pacman has 4 levels instead of 1 level The levels have 2 warp tunnels instead of 1 warp tunnel Fruit spawns dynamically and will leave the map via a warp tunnel if not collected fast enough compared to spawning in a static position Red and Blue ghost AI has been updated to have semi random movements compared to their rigid AI logic in the original. They still follow it but they'll introduce random movements to keep them from being too predictable. For a quick refresher of ghost AI for original Pacman with brackets for the Ms Pacman version) Blinky will chase you (Still chases you but will occasionally randomly turn then continue chasing you) Inky will use a logic combination of Pacman's movements and Blinky's movement to try and stay away from Blinky by at least 8 tiles then meet up with Blinky every 20 tiles traveled (Still tries to meet up with Blinky but will randomly meet up with Blinky between 20 and 40 tiles traveled) Pinky will try and cut Pacman off Clyde will maintain a distance of 8 tiles away from Pacman (Clyde is renamed to Sue in Ms Pacman) Ms Pacman is overall significantly harder than Pacman because in the original Pinky was the only ghost you really had to keep an eye on because the other 3 ghosts were very easily manipulated. Ms Pacman ghosts you will need to keep an eye on all 4 ghosts at the same time because of the randomness factored into their movements

The depot cluster is really player like lol. genius

lol kerrigan just sitting in the corner is so funny, she just let Jim the Pig die

1:28 That is a sign from God, it means "Steal it. _ALL OF IT."_ 4:36 Wow, how many marines does _that_ support? 14:38 Aaaaand, you got jebaited. 16:35 FLASH! AAH-AAH! Wait, wrong Flash? 27:29 Duke has a base! Covered by a big, black thing! 36:07 Crack-lings best 'lings.

Honestly I hope RTS games in the future embrace things like silly resource patches, I prefer silly naturalistic resource distribution over the neat and tidy symmetrical gas/minerals in every single base. Command and Conquer with resource patches being big fields was something i liked

26:00 Something really important from when you have allies: they will know where enemies are, even if cloaked. This will for sure come up again in the future. We are going to have back to back missions where there's ghosts or something like that, one Grant will lose his mind because it takes him 20 mins to find them, the next he will spend 30 mins looking for them and find out there were no ghosts. In the second mission, I'd like it if the Norad was the objective but it didnt draw aggro (neutral player or something), and killing each terran was a secundary objectives (so you can keep track of when enemies are eliminated). That way you dont accidentaly win and can clear both bases if you want, and the objective remains the same pretty much, other than killing Raynor's base not being a win condition.

also, i think they did add the trigger for all the production buildings, because in the previous episode, you won mission 3 while there were still buildings on the map. it was probably just because removing Kerrigan was a mission objective why it didn't end sooner.

That depot wall was the best part of my day, totally worth staying up till 3am to see this

Calling that SCV “The Factory Maker” makes him sound like a figure from myth and legend, it’s like something from the Matrix.

It's like the short movie where the murderer beats his victim with a spoon. Jim dies and just continues to live in the next mission. And again and again and again.

"Wait, it's all depots?" "Always has been"

Spider petards. Now I want those in my ZeroSpace

Kerrigan just stood there killing like 20 units lol.

36:22 Raynor must build two drop ships and send them to duke. Duke: Where did you study tactics boy?! I'll build my own damn drop ships. No idea why I did not use them to escape the zerg though.

"in this area thee is this weird...." "depots...." i laughed

StarCraft 1 reversed be like: Too many minerals...mine less minerals.

it is funny just watching the enemy force get obliterated on the minimap by the two lurkers

Let's poor one out for Derek the dropship, a real G

Duke stacking his factory on top of another factory, what a tactical genius

Depot Dave truely outdid himself today for raynor and his crew

Ms. Pacman actually was a hacked version of the original Pacman, and the developers were forced to present it to Midway due to legal stuff. Gameplay wise it did in fact change a number of things, mainly improving gameplay and replayability. Primarily it tweaked the ghosts logic so they aren't as predictable along with adding additional stages to the game. Funnily enough, theres actually some ownership issues with the character of Ms. Pacman herself, as Bandai Namco has replaced her in recent rereleases pacman arcade game bundles.

I like how the white ally sends the troops pre-emptively knowing *Exactly* where Kerrigan is even though she's cloaked, and just... Camps her out

if you want to be able to use control groups for zerg, unburrowed units are different for allowing double click into control groups. Its also very satisfying to unburrow all and have a try ling flood

After 25 years, and playing this mission countless times, I was today years old when I realized that I haven't tried to outplay the alpha squadron by building endless supply depots to slow the enemy approach, and tire them down... If this is what Duke's boys have had to put up with then no wonder his ship fell and crashed in disappointment

Lol! I knew that Kerrigan had to be the hold up, and rewinding it white knew where she was and was clustered on her. No idea why she wasn't attacking though. I've heard of Terrans lifting their buildings to drag the match out, but keep a character cloaked and holding fire is next level!

I gotta say, my biggest thing about this guy is the fact he sounds like he's having an absolute blast casually playing what would be an extremely difficulty scenario for me. I'd be like "Okay, fuck. Fuck, okay, I got that. Shit, that thing died. Damnit, shit okay, I still got this." Something kinda bad happens and he's like "We're gonna pretend that's not happening." And when a structure of his or an ally dies, he's like "Oh cool. They held. I'm pretty happy about that." Dude. Infectious energy. It's so rare nowadays. I love it.

General Norad 2 will be sorely missed.

So now we know that Grant is a T-Rex, since his vision is based on movement

lol, I just trying to tell Grant "follow the white rabb.., ally" but white just fouund Sara

It's been so long kerrigan was a human..i was like "Wut, we're introduced to the queen of blades?!"

"General Norad II and the Duke" LOL

If they don't have any fruit they are gonna get wrecked... Immediately walks into their tank line.

I love how you completely missed kerrigan sniping your troops for a good 3-4 minutes.

The AI will start loving battle cruisers and nukes really soon too

The louder the OG music and sounds, the better!

Loving watching this series. it's always fun to see your StarCraft 1 stuff as well as SC2

Love everything you do, this mod seems like such a fun idea

Thank you for playing these! I hadn’t heard of these maps and they are awesome!

Grant is still Puffin Certified 'adorable'. Love the videos and this playthrough.

Very fun series, love your long form stuff but this is very fun to watch.

26:32 She was sitting there watching all her friends die

Depot Dave decided not to join Duke and remained loyal to Jim Raynor

4:37 “Research complete” 😂

Will happy to see later series! Good modders job

I have only a couple days ago discovered Starcraft 1's lost campaigns and it's hard to describe the amazing feeling and now this. Insanity.

Really loving the mod and campaign so far. Super excited to see the All the campaigns. so heres hoping!

Always a pleasure to see your videos !

Good to know the AI took care that they don't get supplyblocked!

25:10 "You must find Kerrigan"

Love the content! As to your question about the differences between Pac-Man and Ms Pac-Man; as far as Im aware, its mostly cosmetic differences. The orange ghost is named Clyde and not Sue, and the cutscenes. The one mechanical difference is that the fruit bonuses wander the map. (Apparently there are new maps styles too; mainly concerning the number and placement of 'warp tunnels')

I cannot wait for more! :D

I love how they splice briefings from other missions to explain your objectives. Also, pretty sure Ms Packman just has an updated AI.

Thanks for the fun reversal! ^^

I looked it up and Ms. Pac-Man does have notable game differences, according to tcrf (via Ars Technica): "Originally developed by General Computer Corporation as an enhancement kit for Pac-Man called "Crazy Otto", Ms. Pac-Man is an improvement over Pac-Man with changing maze layouts, new cutscenes, new sounds and music, and the bonus items bouncing around the maze. The orange ghost was also renamed from Clyde to Sue, giving some female representation among the bad guys (the Pac-Man cartoon, which debuted later in '82, had both ghosts; Sue was instead purple, a distinction that would carry over into subsequent games). Contrary to popular belief, Namco cleared Ms. Pac-Man for release and contributed to the character's design. In fact, Namco was so eager to profit from the game that they later produced an anniversary-themed cabinet without adhering to a royalties contract they agreed upon with GCC after the game’s cabinets initially ceased production, leading to a years-long legal battle over the IP rights."

Just want to say i subscribed for two reasons: you are absolutely hilarious and love starcraft AND "general duke has an interesting shaped base" hahaha for the next flood joke, the Johnstown, PA flood of 1936 is your joke. It was the worst flood ever and can be heard as the Pittsburgh, PA flood BECAUSE the flood in Johnstown reached Pittsburgh. Johnstown itself had 5 different major floods in its time.... the more you know ;)

I was patiently waiting till 2 am to catch this vid, worth 😂😂

24:57 actually, production structure is just a simple trigger in bw; it is one of the main trigger options for checking if a player has certain things. The mission would've been better if it used production structures instead of any structure. Could add a second trigger to the group for SCVs if you want to factor in rebuild as well.

Always a pleasure to see this !

This immediate floating factory move was actually very good. This mission could become crazy if you are sloppy in the begining. Lots of siege tanks, marines, wraiths, ghost, even BCs

Gonna flood like Halo. There ya go. A usable flood reference.

Not complaining about the audio as long as I hear banging sc1 terran music

A Giant Grant Games Goliath.

In regards for building clearer which seems to be abundant in this mod, the highest DPS for Terran in terms of DPS/Population space is stim Marine, secondplace is Unsiege Siege Tank, and third place go for both Goliath and 2 Marine. Vulture, Ghost, Wraith, Firebat only deal 25% against building, and If I recall 1 BC lost in DPS against 6 Firebat without stim.

lmfao the miss of kerry is just hilarious

I swear i heard Kerrigan attacking whilst grant was attacking

Grant, just wanna let you know, this is awesome :D

4:40 Depot Dave has been busy I see... 5:52 Clearly Depot Dave is *not* on your side this time. 8:04 Doordash dropship ready for some lunch orders. 12:50 "It's nicer to not be supply blocked." -GGG, 2024 13:38 Did he just get ship weapons upgrade for his *0* attacking ships? 14:50 Uno reverse card

"Remind me to never name stuff in sci-fi RTS." Says the guy working on sci-fi RTS. :D

28:30 I loved the SC1 bases more it always made it feel more naturally formed. The inconveniences of it were easily worth it for me.

Thank you for the video.

That MS pacman hit me in the nostalgia good. I think every laundromat in the 80s and 90s had a Ms Pacman table.

This mission could be SO MUCH MORE FUN if you destroyed everything!!! Starcraft is about conquering the whole map! You paid for 100% of the map, you have to conquer 100% of the map.

Ah yes, "an Rebel Bases", I think this mod might need a once-over to fix stuff like that.

I had the same idea for campaign in Warcraft 3 😀, doing it from the perspective of the oponent

Leaving a comment to show that I am very invested in you playing through all these reversed campaigns.

You can see the teal dropships moving just above Grant's base at 8:49. That was how teal attacked from the other side.

You're right. It does bother me when you don't repair really messed up units. Medium is fine to ignore

This is so rad

You make it sound like the average player doesn't build 762 827 depos. Them's rookie numbers

2:27 Sir, I don't think you have enough minerals

I can't wait to see how Grant handles this mission, this was the mission I had to float a proxy base over to get a proper start on the map, the AI goes hard with 3 different factions. Edit: turns out if you don't give the AI time to do anything, they don't lol. This was the mission that the orange player massed ghosts and nukes for me, getting every vehicle and ship locked down whist red washed over with their own starships was an incredible experience.

Some of this is recalling from memory and may be inaccurate, but the ghosts in the original pacman - with the notable exception of Clyde, the orange one - have deterministic movement patterns making them among the first programmed AI behavior in games (Clyde adds difficulty to the game by being the one who just wanders, and is therefore erratic.) Ms. Pacman started as a bootleg version of the original with a different treatment to the AIs, before being brought to the original creators and changing from "bootleg" to "proper sequel."

You could use the supply block strategy attacking from that angle :D

It seems that Ms. Pac Man has moving bonus fruits in the mazes, otherwise it should be just a redesign

Someone definately beat me to this, but Yes, ms pacman is mechanically different to pacman, it is the sequel to pacman. It has 4 different mazes that it cycles through, one including 2 sets of warp tunnels. The ghosts behavior codes, which were already individual in pacman, are different again, and include some added randomness. The fruit doesnt spawn in a set position but bounces around the mazes.

26:24 one surviving enemy dropship that ran away flashbacks O_O