[*Gifted/Ad] Quick & Easy DIY Shelf Pin Router Jig [video 506]

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Peter Millard

Peter Millard

Жыл бұрын

In this video I make a simple router jig to make shelf pin holes quickly and accurately with any router using a 30mm guide bush. Enjoy!
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Used / featured in this video:-
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3M 9088 double-sided tape - amzn.to/3u2Ekqw
Bosch professional 30mm forester bit - amzn.to/3SRIUmS (US: amzn.to/3Mf9sfS)
5mm clevis (registration) pins - amzn.to/3yhTiMM
5mm shelf pins - amzn.to/3MdBqbv
Shelf pin bit (1/4” shank x 4.76mm carbide spiral upcut shelf pin bit) - www.rennietool.co.uk/collecti...
Trend 30mm guide bush - amzn.to/3CbcBsl
Trens T18 router - amzn.to/3e7aX33
Other handy gear:-
SanderCard - amzn.to/3c1yh17 (US - amzn.to/3QUvcz2)
Hultafors Talmeter tape measure - amzn.to/2pHwnbH (US: amzn.to/2oqLQc9)
Moldex 6810 in-ear defenders - amzn.to/2P2c5nP (US:amzn.to/2LgIsye)
Bahco 6” combi square - amzn.to/2oumhX4 (US: amzn.to/2ouSg9k)
Festool TS55 Tracksaw - amzn.to/2pGvzDS (US: amzn.to/2oOgGhw)
Bessey DuoKlamp - amzn.to/3eDz1Ig (US: amzn.to/3w1s1dM)
Festool lever clamp - amzn.to/2pOohLD (US: amzn.to/2pnFZIM)
Festool Midi extractor - amzn.to/2tCIN3Q (US: amzn.to/2rKNIOx)
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Пікірлер: 117
@barry.w.christie
@barry.w.christie Жыл бұрын
The best jig possible, simple, easy to make and extremely useful ... brilliant.
@gingerelvis
@gingerelvis Жыл бұрын
The Benchdogs stuff does look lovely quality and they certainly are coming up with some clever solutions (along with the community!). Being handy with design software (graphic designer by day) I can't help but think I'd at least break even with a cheap cnc router knocking up my own gear / jigs. It all adds up when you are trying your hand at a lot of different things.
@talalalharbe-ek8ik
@talalalharbe-ek8ik Ай бұрын
مفيدًا للغاية
@paulschwartz6074
@paulschwartz6074 Жыл бұрын
Nice, simple little jig, Peter, and a good reminder about double-sided tape. I really appreciate how clean and precise your work is. The shop is looking great.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul! Getting there! 👍
@elguapo1507
@elguapo1507 Жыл бұрын
This is great! You could have the locating pin on a piece of spring steel so that it finds the next hole automatically without you needing to look. Just lift the pin out of its hole, start to slide the jig and let it spring in to the next hole.
@markfredericks9892
@markfredericks9892 Жыл бұрын
thanks Peter, this is a clever idea. I think packaging this type of jig + bushing and bit is a brilliant combination.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Glad you like it
@johnvolker6781
@johnvolker6781 Жыл бұрын
Another great idea, explained well. Thank you Peter!
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Thanks John! 👍
@johanpotgieter4318
@johanpotgieter4318 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. Will definitely make myself one.
@HegartySlings
@HegartySlings Жыл бұрын
I watched this last night on a 55inch LG Oled TV ... Absolutely brilliant quality. BTW, I've watched your other videos on my phone , from now on I'll be watching them on the TV, it makes a massive difference. Thank you Peter
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I find the idea of me being on a 55" TV terrifying, but as long as you're happy! 😂 👍
@SteveZodiac777
@SteveZodiac777 Жыл бұрын
Ingenious - thanks for sharing!
@josehmaru
@josehmaru Жыл бұрын
Brilliant as always..
@ThisTall
@ThisTall Жыл бұрын
Nicely done! One jig I’ve always wanted to build is a version of the True Precision brand cabinet handle drilling jig. But instead of having tension setting screws, it would be nice to have actual millimetre incremental detents for a stop pin to set in to. Hope this makes sense. The knock offs aren’t worth while in my opinion, and the premium brand is almost $400 CAD. And the set screws are annoying and create bumps on the locking surface over time, and make it hard to lock in at exact positions sometimes. It would be great if Festool made it, because what I’m imagining would work exactly like the extensions for the domino. It’s adjustment works along a rule with millimetre increment detents.
@mattcable6379
@mattcable6379 Жыл бұрын
Having been pulled up for saying I wasn't fussed on BD stuff I have to save this does look etremely useful and with you (Peter) being the jig king I'm sitting here looking at my LR32 and having a little cry ..
@Marcus_Caius
@Marcus_Caius Жыл бұрын
Another fine jig, I have the holy rail and used it on a few projects. It works great within it's limitations. First it's almost impossible to use it on assemble cabinet. Second it's a pita if your cabinet is custom size and not following the 90mm system. Thanks for sharing Peter
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Thanks! And yes! Whenever I was asked to retro-fit shelves in existing cabinets I’d always use a simple drilling guide - messy, but much simpler to make it fit!👍
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations Жыл бұрын
Brilliant, Peter! Fantastic work!!! 😃 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Thank you! 🙌👍
@streetkombativesystem4704
@streetkombativesystem4704 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant!
@ashleycox432
@ashleycox432 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video and another great product from Benchdogs. I do wish there was a nice simple but durable shelf pin jig on the market that didn't cost the earth. A simple slab of metal or thick acrylic with holes for a router guide bush (instead of the 5 mm holes you get on most cheap jigs), a simple fence with a few holes for different backset positions, and a removable end fence to hook over the end of a panel. I'm sure this jig works very well, but it's still reliant on accuracy of the marks, alignment of the drill bit on the marks, accuracy of the drill press etc. Something like the above but CNC cut would be a great tool to have, perhaps supplied with a matching guide bush for absolute accuracy, which would allow shelf pin holes to be made to within fractions of a millimetre.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Thanks! As I say in the vid, the benchdogs rulers have an end hook accessory - or you can put a pin through a hole - so you’re not reliant on aligning against a mark. The trouble is that what you’ve described, whilst not complex, isn’t trivial either, and the costs do add up. Plus there are practical considerations too - if it references off the end of the carcass, how long does it need to be; too long and shipping becomes an issue, too short and it’ll be no good for longer carcasses! But I agree, I think there’s space in the sub-£100 category for a decent quality multi-purpose jig, and I do have something cooking in that area, so watch this space! 👍👍
@marksmith7147
@marksmith7147 Жыл бұрын
I do like your gig videos. Keep them up 🫡
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Thank you! 👍
@marksmith7147
@marksmith7147 Жыл бұрын
I meant jig not gig, although you might be a musician too!
@keithl4779
@keithl4779 Жыл бұрын
Nice idea well executed!
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@sheilbwright7649
@sheilbwright7649 Жыл бұрын
Simple, elegant and effective. 32 X 3=96. Change the the router bit to 20mm and you can make a MFT top.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Жыл бұрын
It’s almost like there’s another video to follow on… 😆😂👍
@albatros1752
@albatros1752 Жыл бұрын
Bravo !!!
@brucelee3388
@brucelee3388 Жыл бұрын
It will obviously also work in those parts of the world where shelf supports are 6mm or 6.35mm (1/4 inch) like the US or Australia (which has 5, 6 & 6.35 mixed up all over the place) - just change the router bit to suit.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Exactly! 👍
@LostWhits
@LostWhits Жыл бұрын
Can't say I've ever seen 6mm pins in Australia.
@braeve8514
@braeve8514 Жыл бұрын
Very nice and well tought of. Would love a video where you review all the measuring tools(carpenter squares, rulers, t square, ect) and possible ways to use the products from benchdogs 🙏😇
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I think I could do a whole series on Benchdogs products! 😂 👍
@braeve8514
@braeve8514 Жыл бұрын
@@10MinuteWorkshop why not, i am a fan and customer from them thanks to you 😇 built my own mft bench and i also have the square and parralel guides and the 120mm fence also 🙏
@BensWorkshop
@BensWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Good ideas and also a good idea to provide the kit for those that don't have the full machine shop. That said, if I was making it, it would be in aluminium in my machine shop.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Not everyone has a machine shop either! 😂 👍
@BensWorkshop
@BensWorkshop Жыл бұрын
@@10MinuteWorkshop Absolutely, whether it be a band saw, drill press or in my case, a milling machine.
@Viken43
@Viken43 Жыл бұрын
Ordered a 640mm rule and used your code at checkout. Might be able to make a parallel guide as well as shelf pin jig. Even go as far as a poor man’s parf stick 😅
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Nice! And thanks! 👍
@ghostanddiy
@ghostanddiy Жыл бұрын
Super 👍👍👍
@nickhelm2420
@nickhelm2420 Жыл бұрын
Hi Peter when you gave the marking pin " a little tap " and all those bits of sawdust suddenly appeared I thought blimey that hammer has dandruff 🤣
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Head & shoulders definitely not working on that hammer head! 😂
@dietmarfinster3176
@dietmarfinster3176 Жыл бұрын
I would drill right through the template with a Hing Hole Drill for 3mm shelf supports. But great DIY solution.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Of course - you can adapt it to whatever you like. 👍👍
@warrensmith2902
@warrensmith2902 Жыл бұрын
Well done. Bench Dogs looks to be providing the initial precision and extenability that is needed for drilling the pin holes for the 32mm spacing. I found that using the plastic templates, after a few extensions of laying the template down they get off a bit and the holes on the other side or in back don't align correctly anymore. That's why I eventually bought the Holly Rail. I use my old plastic guides to add more pin holes to existing assemblies.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Yes, I found that too with the cheap & cheerful acrylic templates. And as much as it hurt at the time, the holey rail is a joy to use! 👍
@markflajsner9944
@markflajsner9944 Жыл бұрын
Just dashed into my kitchen to check my Ikea cabinets, and heavens above they didn't respect the norms, as the hole spacing was 50mm on centre...the Swedes are such rebels 😉
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Жыл бұрын
I despair! 🤷‍♂️😂
@rickkinney1249
@rickkinney1249 Жыл бұрын
OH HOW I WISH YOU WERE A YANK! great new, simple to make, jigs from TEN MINUTE WORKSOP and no LOOOONG distance frt fee and wait time----keep the jigs/fixtures coming and keep the videos coming. thanx peter rick
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Haha, thanks Rick! What do you think - NewYankee 10MinuteWorkshop?? 🤔 😂 👍
@konnan442
@konnan442 Жыл бұрын
I love your shop. It's so small and yet so functional. Do you have a shop tour video?
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Only from way back, video 066 here - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ecuPmrCorre1o58.html. I'll be doing an updated one when I get the last shop cabinet rebuilt soon. 👍
@chrisvanhouten6348
@chrisvanhouten6348 Жыл бұрын
Could you make that 5 mm pin spring loaded? Never loose it and it make for even quicker routing. Nice vid and great solutions
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Жыл бұрын
You can; let's just say that this isn't the only jig I have planned... 👍
@coop_coop007
@coop_coop007 Жыл бұрын
Shelf help!
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Жыл бұрын
😂👍
@dancascino701
@dancascino701 Ай бұрын
Getting ready to add shelf pin holes and this was a very interesting build. You have built tall cabinets in the past, with euro hinges in tall doors did you find that you placed the pin holes farther away from the edge so as not to conflict with the hinge plate positioning? this may effect the jig creation. (i have 48" wide carcasses already on walls)
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Ай бұрын
It was very much dependent on the job; sometimes it's easier to stick to the '32mm system' and have the hinges in the same run of holes as the shelf pins, sometimes I'd set them back a little to avoid it.
@richardstevenson2727
@richardstevenson2727 Жыл бұрын
👍
@CowboyX72
@CowboyX72 Жыл бұрын
Jedes 3. Loch nutzen und einen 20er Fräser - dann könnte man auch eine mft style Tischplatte fräsen 👍🏻
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Ja, das ist eine Option - obwohl es für diesen Zweck bessere Vorrichtungen gibt. 👍
@CowboyX72
@CowboyX72 Жыл бұрын
@@10MinuteWorkshop yepp, schon klar, aber funktionieren tut es. Und wenn es nicht sooooo genau sein muss. Viele machen sich die Löcher ja nur um etwas festspannen zu können. Dafür reicht das Jig allemal 👍🏻
@theessentialguideforblokes7960
@theessentialguideforblokes7960 Жыл бұрын
Silly question from a newb to all this, what router bit did you use? Was it a spiral or straight bit? Thank you for all the vids, you’ve inspired me to make cabinet doors and built in wardrobes for our bedroom. Still lots to learn but loving every step!
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Жыл бұрын
The only silly question is the one you don’t ask - and thanks for your kind comments! I use a spiral upcut bit, solid carbide, 4.76mm as I found it was the best option for the commonly available shelf pins eg hafele. There’s a link in the video description to the one I recommend. 👍
@theessentialguideforblokes7960
@theessentialguideforblokes7960 Жыл бұрын
@@10MinuteWorkshop thank you so much for the reply. Silly me for not looking in the description!
@ralf9026
@ralf9026 10 ай бұрын
In the video you can see the black worktop with the holes and grooves of the MFT. Can I buy them somewhere or is there a video about it?
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop 10 ай бұрын
Yep:- Ikea Curtain track DIY MFT [video 487] - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aJhjhKR9rsjSgpc.html and Matchfit Microjig Dovetail Clamp System [video 499] - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q8-EaalesJiahJs.html
@FasterThanJesus666
@FasterThanJesus666 Жыл бұрын
Small tip to make it much better is put a spring of the right length around the pin and you wont need to remove it it will just pop up automatically and you can just push it down to locate it
@Rossco242424
@Rossco242424 Жыл бұрын
love your channel did you get a new camera or change something. Looks great.. Thank you for making this video.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Yes I did, but it was back in March... 👍
@anthonyromano8565
@anthonyromano8565 Жыл бұрын
Where can you get a router bit that fits metric shelf pins ?
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Links in the description, as always 👍 Shelf pin bit (1/4” shank x 4.76mm carbide spiral upcut shelf pin bit) - www.rennietool.co.uk/collections/solid-carbide-router-bits/products/solid-carbide-2-flute-spiral-flute-up-cut-router-bits?variant=39632460709975&aff=2
@colinscowen9621
@colinscowen9621 Жыл бұрын
Of course, you could save the cost of the forstner bit by making the hole a 30 × 30 square....
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Жыл бұрын
If you can do it precisely, sure.👍
@mlzboy
@mlzboy Жыл бұрын
Does any video introduce this grid MFT's benefit?
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Жыл бұрын
When you say 'grid MFT' I'm not sure wether you mean the grid of holes, or the dovetail tracks? Long story short there's an MFT playlist here - bit.ly/MFT-related - that has all the MFT and MFT-related videos in it, if you just want MFT basics then videos 182 & 183 cover that, 182 is here - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Zrxdo5h3nLnOf2g.html . This specific MFT build was covered here - Ikea Curtain track DIY MFT [video 487] kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aJhjhKR9rsjSgpc.html - and the Matchfit Microjig Dovetail Clamp System [video 499] here - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q8-EaalesJiahJs.html HTH P
@mlzboy
@mlzboy Жыл бұрын
@@10MinuteWorkshop thanks peter, I got the matchfit concept, it's like a t-track clamp system
@tonymoloney3223
@tonymoloney3223 Жыл бұрын
Hi Peter was that a bosch forstner bit you used?
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Yes it is, link in description as always. 👍
@rikardekvall3433
@rikardekvall3433 Жыл бұрын
Great work. But don’t you use ear protection?
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Thanks. And always! 👍
@andrewmcvey3156
@andrewmcvey3156 Жыл бұрын
New Kapex, Peter? Will there be a well used Festool track saw going up on ebay soon?
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Жыл бұрын
No, very old Kapex, just been cleaned up a bit. 👍
@yohannsantos4901
@yohannsantos4901 Жыл бұрын
Hi peter! I noticed your blue flag stop on the drill press station... is that the one 3d printed? I´ve 3 printed the body and knob, but I´m not finding a way to make a sturdy flag, which one is yours?
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Hi Yohann; this is an early Benchdogs flag stop, fitted with a current flag. It's what I had. 🤷‍♂️ 👍
@yohannsantos4901
@yohannsantos4901 Жыл бұрын
@@10MinuteWorkshop aaaah i see! problem not solved ahah Thanks a lot, Peter!
@tom451
@tom451 Жыл бұрын
The router bit says 4.75 but shelf supports are 5mm. Does this not make them a really tight fit
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Shelf pins really aren’t 5mm - get a decent set of callipers and measure some. 4.76mm (3/16”) is a snug fit for most commonly available commercial shelf pins. 👍
@howardjones543
@howardjones543 Жыл бұрын
What's the significance of the 37mm?
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Standard set-back for the 32mm system. 👍👍
@Cammboz
@Cammboz Жыл бұрын
Hi Peter, not related to this video but a while back you mentioned doing a video on 20mm MFT cutters, just wondering if you are still planning to do this? In the meantime, what is the yellow cutter that appeared in that same episode…. Sorry I can’t remember which one it was now?
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Жыл бұрын
I have something coming along, but not just yet. Long story short, it's not the bit that's the issue, it's the router. 🤷‍♂️ 👍
@Cammboz
@Cammboz Жыл бұрын
Thanks Peter….. I will keep an eye out 👀
@mikhailarey1196
@mikhailarey1196 Жыл бұрын
What brand of forstner is that?
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Bosch. Link in description. 👍
@XtrmJosh
@XtrmJosh Жыл бұрын
"We're gonna take our marking pin, and we'll give that a little tap".... Is your MFT still good after that? I'd be tempted to check you didn't crack the foundations, too...
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Жыл бұрын
It's mostly still there! 😂
@BrianStreetUnity
@BrianStreetUnity Жыл бұрын
did you turn your clevis pins down? also i do not see the flat pack on your store anywhere, just 8 items. nor the plans in the plans section. have you discontinued this item already?
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Жыл бұрын
The plans are available on my Etsy store still, but the near-total lack of interest in the jig has meant it's not really worth listing. I have another shelf-pin solution coming along soon. 👍
@craigseddon5347
@craigseddon5347 Жыл бұрын
I am also interested in making a shelf pin jig and have been on the website looking for the plans but if a new jig is coming shortly I’ll hold my horses, thanks for the content Peter 👍🏻
@MrUmy786
@MrUmy786 4 ай бұрын
@@10MinuteWorkshophi Peter. Did you get round to making that alternative shelf pin video? I may have missed it but can’t see anything newer since this video
@c.a.g.1977
@c.a.g.1977 Жыл бұрын
I own many Swedish design furniture, and I can honestly say I never ever rearrange the shelves. I put them in after putting the whateveritis together, and then just leave them. Are there people who actually rearrange the shelves? Nice jig, though, Peter!
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Depends on wether the use of the cabinet changes over time; mostly though, it’s to give the flexibility of being able to adjust the shelves to accommodate different sized stuff when you,first get the cabinet. 👍
@alfredneumann4692
@alfredneumann4692 Жыл бұрын
Your drillpress sounds like a tractor. 🙂
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Жыл бұрын
It is! 😂
@nutsmcflurry3737
@nutsmcflurry3737 Ай бұрын
Late comment, but instead of cutting the two corner notches, I would rather use two more of your location pins in properly drilled holes.
@OliWarner
@OliWarner Жыл бұрын
These are 5mm on 32mm *spaces*, no? They'd be 5mm on 34.5mm centres. That's just my interpretation of the scale on the rulers.
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Жыл бұрын
No, 32mm centres; standard for the 32mm system. 👍
@cliveclapham6451
@cliveclapham6451 Жыл бұрын
Holy rail ❤ Paid review 😢 It’s all about the money 🤔 that’d make a good song ❤❤❤❤
@10MinuteWorkshop
@10MinuteWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Paid review?? That’ll be the day! Never on this channel. 👍👍
@cliveclapham6451
@cliveclapham6451 Жыл бұрын
@@10MinuteWorkshop lol
@WiscoWoodShop
@WiscoWoodShop Жыл бұрын
Brilliant!
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