The Japanese song hit differently if people actually understand the lyrics. It was literally written for Gohan and about this being the day of his destiny, where he must surpass himself, to become the saviour that will stop Cell's evil ways and save the world and the peoples in it. The Japanese speech for 16 was also very emotional...the way he said "Gohan...please protect the nature and the animals that I *loved* (past tense)...I am counting on you".

Japanese version is definitely the best. You can hear that Oozaru roar in the background!! 💯

Major respect for also showing this to her in Japanese. I love the Funimation dub soundtrack and the Faulconer music, but the vocal track during this scene in JP is just unmatched. Really love the original JP music tracks in the Bardock TV special and when Trunks first appears too, very 80s and synth/bass heavy.

This original version gave me chill when there was no speech, just gohan’s silence of shock and then all of his anger erupted like a beast’s awaken

Everything about the Japanese version of this scene is amazing. The music, the Oozaru Roar in Gohan's scream, man.

This version is the definitive way for me to watch this transformation! The random monologue gohan had in his head was weird but the Japanese version is perfect cause gohan isn’t contemplating his reason he just snaps and unleashed his power

THANK YOU for showing her the original version! This song is really beautiful and powerfull. And yeah, the silence of the scene and gohan just screaming, powers up the climax way better for me. LEGEND!!

Fun fact for most who don’t know this: The VA for Gohan in the Japanese version of DBZ also voices Goku, Goten and Bardock. Her name is Masako Nozawa and she’s been doing these role for more than 2 decades now🔥

Something else that wasn't brought up that i like more about the Japanese version, is that when Gohan screams you can hear the deep Oozaru roar underneath it. The Japanese version typically did that for big screams in the series.

I believe Team Four Star's version of Gohan's transformation was the crown jewel of the abridged series, paying tribute to one of the greatest moments in DBZ.

Ohhh yesss I’m glad you showed her this version. I don’t normally care between the Dub Vs Sub debates but to me this is like THE BEST version of this moment. It’s just perfect.

Great ! You had to show her the original version. That music is so beautiful and so powerful. I'm French and in the French version they kept the original musics in the whole anime. I think the US was the only country where the musics were different in DBZ so it's cool to show her the original Japanese version. I'm 34 and saw DBZ when I was a kid in the early 90s but that scene and that song still give me goosebumps every time.

The Japanese version is definitly the best of these. Its amazing.

I found the Japanese one more realistic, in that Gohan was in such shock over 16's death that he literally had no words and he simply snapped and his rage took over triggering his transformation. That's what I always loved about Super Saiyan transformations in that it was always triggered by rage.

Madison jamming to the music is something I didn't know I needed. Also love how she's open to all the opinions of all versions and understands the plus sides of both versions. And why each version is liked for each version

The thing is: The first american dub of DBZ sounded a lot more heroic than it should be, specially Goku's dub. I'm brazilian, I've watched our (in brazilian portuguese) version first but the Japanese version is SO more intense than every single other versions. And we had the same song as the original. Gohan screaming was something else. There's some shows that I like to watch the dub version, but Dragon Ball I just can't. Masako Nozawa's voice is a part of me. And yeah, you guys reached me here in Brazil. HAHAHA Amazing reaction, btw. I found your channel since the battle between Goku and Freeza and I'm re-enjoying every episode since then.

Gohan scream in Latin Spanish is great! give it a look

man seening that clip again brings back so many memories watching random dbz clips on youtube. remember the first time saw that. love the theme song for gohan ssj2. such a classic moment.

So glad you showed her this. One thing I think the Japanese version gets right is when to play music and when not to. I like the Falconer score but they tend to go ADD with the music. They fill every second of every episode with music, even changing songs 3 times within 30 seconds at times - to the point that it gets a little overbearing. I like how the original they let scenes be quiet and let the moment sell itself without the help of music. The original version of the SSJ2 Gohan scene is the best example of this..

And the lyrics fit perfectly with what is happening, it make you feel it's actualy describing the events and the emotion of Gohan: The time is now fulfilled O Messiah, O Messiah Oh, taking along its bottomless fear, Oh, the wicked soul is drawing nearer. I can’t be beaten, it’s the turning point of fate, I’ve just gotta do it, and put my life on the line for the dawn, On my own!! Whoa-whoa, it’s for sure, I’m gonna go beyond my limits! Whoa-whoa, gather your energy, And send the darkness flying!!

I literally have goosebumps, thx man for keeping this little request of mine....love you both 💙💙

In this version you also hear great ape behind Gohans sceeam.

Remember clear as day when this episode came out in December 2000 on Cartoon Network. But that Bruce Faulconer music just hits the soul for me. ❤

R.I.P Akira you made my life so much better by theses scenes alone. You will be missed by me a millions across the world thank you.

This is just one of those episodes that will always cross fans’ minds when thinking of DBZ. It’s more than iconic

Gotta say I wasn't expecting the reaction to be so mellow but I definitely understand since it's like taking her out of a world she knows already and dropping her in another out of nowhere. Dragon Ball is really one of those series that focuses on nostalgia due to many parts of the series focusing on creating "moments" with a lot of buildup. You get comfortable with the language and music you indulge in for so long it becomes a part of your memory and it is your standard to judge all else by. I feel though she was open-minded and honest about her feelings and I loved your explanation on what it meant to people and how it works differently. It's a different world when someone like me grew up in early 90s America with barely any English dubs out aside from Ocean dubs of only part of the Namek Saga repeating for years so I would have to go to China Town NYC for years to buy poorly subtitled VHS rips of basically 80% of the remaining show, and it was a fight to find each one to get every episode for $5 a pop. We had to work hard to see Dragon Ball back in the day after being teased by the Ocean dub for years. So think how after all the money I borrowed as a kid and all the trips to ride a boat to get to NYC every week just to hope China Town had new bootleggs, only to be letdown often and lucky other times. To sit down and finally witness this moment with Gohan in grainy VHS quality with poor subtitles... It blew my mind and left little 10 year old me in tears. It was the first time I've ever felt any emotion toward a TV show, period, and it forever embedded itself in me. This was about 26 years ago. I'm 35 now and I've never turned away from this series, and it was this moment that made me explore more anime. And out of all the years of grabbing DB bootleggs, the ones with this episode on it were the hardest to find because they sold like wild and were always sold out. Took me about 3 months of trying to finally get a copy and it was the most sold episode ever. There was legit underground hype. I love that you guys did this though and I really appreciate you fulfilling this request. I enjoyed this greatly and send you both love from Staten Island as always. She's going to love the next episode then when they recreate the transformation over again closer to the manga, because they add that unreleased Faulconer track for Gohan which is also fire.

Masako Nozawa for ever

I actually saw the American version first, and much prefer this version. Something I noticed is what Cell says to Gohan achieves the same outcome but for different reasons, as the American version Cell places blame on Gohan; whereas the Japanese version, Cell shows disregard to life by belittling a life form he already killed. Just interesting how they approached the same thing differently

Oh nice! I know I already gabbed about this on the other video but you should do this bit for the DBZA version. They commissioned an English translation version of this song from the Japanese dub!

that scream and the music still gives me the chills everytime since the first time i saw it 30 years ago the music, the scream with the oozaru scream backing it up is just perfection

What I think is incredible about the bird is just how many things it represents. 1. Gohan’s innocents slipping away 2. The innocence Cell is willing to destroy And the strike through shows not only Gohan snapping, but the strike going through where the bird was tells me Gohan has to take a life to save many more lives (effectively becoming like Cell for this instance)

Made respect for showing her this version. All the points you hit about the difference between the two versions are why I will always prefer the Japanese version to the North American. Despite DBZ dub being my first with this series it is also the reason why I have a prejudice against English dub mainly because the old Ocean Dub tried to change the script before funimation redid it. That upset me. Anyway, awesome video. Awesome reaction!

This scene, 16's speach, and Piccolo's speech are one of the most beautiful scenes in all of dragon ball. "He's just a scared 11 year old boy! He's not a fighter like his father, and I'm not going to sit here and watch this anymore! You want to know what he's thinking right now?! He's wondering why his father is watching him die!" "Its okay Gohan. Let go. Release your anger. I understand your pain. But you must let it go, to protect the earth. Please, protect the earth I loved so much." "16. You loved life.. you gave everything up to save it.. and you were just an android. I let you die.. I can't do that. I won't watch anymore. I feel it slipping.. AND I WON'T WATCH THIS ANYMORE!" The only other scenes I think are equally beautiful coming up in this same arc is Goku saving earth and Gohan using his Kamehameha.

Awesome ! Since yesterday I was thinking of asking you to do exactly this ! It's interesting to hear the opinion of someone who's not emotionally attached to one version so that it's an unbiased opinion. Thanks !

They killed it in the Japanese version too!

I always thought of the bird as symbolism for Androids 16's soul. He was supposed to be just a machine but showed more humanity than most people have the ability to be... Overcoming his programming to kill Goku instead to defend the earth for the sake of life itself. Getting himself thrown to Gohan knowing it would be his end... Sacrificing himself. The bird...(His soul) flying out of him up to Gohan... turning... and flying away out of this realm which triggers Gohans transformation.

I watched both English and Mexican Spanish version growing up, and to be honest The Mexican Spanish dub was WAYYYyyy better ( dialogues were more intelligent and Emotional. Also insults were more dramatic) English dialogue sounded like it was made specifically for kids , also Mexican latino version was not censored you could actually see blood & guts instead of burn scuffs and kept truer to the japanese Dialogues and Intros. I do have to give credit to the English version of Vegeta's voice though its on par with the Mexican one

Masako Nozawa, Goku's and Gohan's Japanese voice actor, is an absolute legend! Thank you guys for this reaction, and I'm enjoy seeing you guys in your Super reactions.

Oooh this was very interesting 🔥🔥🔥🔥. Japanese version is legendary!! I watched all of DBS subbed because there was no dub. So much emotion 🔥🔥🔥. Well done guys!!!!

The thing about the Japanese theme song is how perfectly it fit the time (early 90's), plus what you mentioned about letting it breath and not spelling out what Gohan is thinking until he explodes. Leaves more room for interpretation.

I actually saw the EN ver first, but found the JP ver way more satisfying. Gohan talks and in monologues way less in the JP ver giving it a more serious undertone. The entire sequence is best without words, letting the drawings express the moment. America loves to pour dialogue all over the visuals. Less is More and all it needs is That Scream.

And SURPRISE! in almost EVERY language in the world this scene was JUST translated, keeping the original music, speech, lyrics of the song (in some places the lyrics were translated too), etc. Everything is the same but translated, yeah in almost every version its like this, almost every version BUT the american version that is, and I am sorry if someone feels ofended, horrible. They removed all the music from the original series, not just in this scene, the entire OST was completely eliminated and changed in the american version, all of it, combat music, tension music, some latemotivs that DB has that are amazing. All of it has been removed in the american version. In terms of "sound" everything is diferent from the original in the american version and I don't get why, its a big fat downgrade. One of the things that make DBZ most epic scenes THAT epic is the music, and in america that music doesn't exist or is totally changed.

👋🏾 Brother from another mother, Sister from another mister lol I’ve been watching you guys for a while and I’m superrrr excited to see this day has finally come!🥳 I grew up on the dub and I ❤ it to say the least like the humor we put on it and our badass soundtrack from Bruce has been special, But ultimately going to watch the masterpiece that is the OG JP version is a treat any dragonball fan no matter how personally invested shouldn’t deny themselves. The deeper meanings the original script and other major importances to the story but best of all imo that kickass voice acting it’s definitely must see DBZ. Anyways love you guys I became a fan right away I’m look forward to finishing this journey with y’all ‼️🙏🏾😇

*You Missed One Part Of The Transformation Scene, I Remember When I Was A Kid All Those Years Ago They Had A Scene That Showed Gohan’s Head From Behind And The Hair Slowly Spiked Up Even Harder And The Scene Panned Back To His Upper Body And The Thin Yellow Lightning Turned To Thicker Blue Electricity, Then He Fully Transformed, I Think Whatever You Watched These Episodes On Are Cutting Parts Of Certain Scenes🥲*

You should show her the Team4Star version from Dragon Ball Z Abridged Episode 60 Part 1! It's my absolute favourite and so powerful, especially what 16 says to Gohan. :)

I generally prefer English dub, but moments like this should 100 percent be seen in its original form. Masako Aizawa is amazing, and the original score is the absolute icing on the cake. Hearing the tense silence with wind blowing in the background, and then Gohan's transformation theme when he loses it is the chef's kiss.

You should show her trunks going super saiyan for the first time against frieza in the original Japanese version The music is great

Thanks for making this and showing her! This version just hits so much harder with all the silence and the music. Hope you can show her more clips of the Japanese version during key moments.

Everything about this version is better. The unique song for the soundtrack, the oozaru roar behind Gohan’s scream. The best part? Gohan doesn’t even speak. They just leave the scene in his deafening silence.

Thank You so much for reacting to this version 😊 I can see why people love both version. I think if you start watching the whole series with, you get used to it and you got this feeling of it. Can't really explain, but I know for me, the Japanese version is waaay more emotional. The American version makes the characters cool and badass. Btw, there will be a flashback scene in the next episode I think or after that ( time chamber ), THAT scene in the Japanese version is pure epicness with that music.

I'm glad you showed her the Japanese version of this scene. The music is so much more thrilling and emotional than the American one. But I do think Gohan's monolog in the American version is great. Maybe his monolog combined with that music would have made this moment even better ...

So that was a big surprise! Thanks!!! Japanes version much more emotional! The Japanese voice actors give much more life to the character I think! Dbz has its own band and they go to a few countries every year! Unfortunately, I haven't been to a show yet but I really want to see it someday!

Imo the silence on this scene with just the bird flying and the song in the background make this so much more impactful, cause he don't talk but it's like you understand what he's thinking, then BAM...this is it, he snapped, narrator tells you he ascended, he became what Goku and everyone were all waiting for, and it finish on that, perfect.

2:08 enough said !!! , this is why the Original version is greater than any Dubbed version.

I understand why people would prefer the original japanese version, but I personally prefer the American version with the Bruce Falconer soundtracks. The sound effects and the voice acting along with the music can't be beaten, it makes it so much more meaningful; the Japanese version just feels like a first draft to me.

You guys need to hear the latinamerican version (Mexican) it's the best version of this scene 😉 Laura Torres did an amazing job and she is an idol here in latinamerica 😃

A huge thanks to the patreon crew for thinking about us youtube people and getting this put out for us. I agree with Madison about the American version but there are few times where the original had these special songs that I feel like we got cheated out of.

The scream in this version and in Kai english dub are both excellent, but the music here is just too perfect. I really wish they'd used it in the english version too.

This version, of ssj2 Gohan first transformation was the best ngl. The English version that TeamFourStar included in DBZA was also really impressive.

There's another reason why peeps like the Japanese one more. Like myself, it didn't matter which version we saw first. The japanese version was just more awesome, WAAAAY more consistent with itself, and didn't try so hard to kiddy up everything it could to be more marketable to American kid's cartoon network. But how can people watching the first funimation dub tell what is inconsistent? The characters' actions vs the script. None no more blatant than Goku. where they tried to turn him into a superhero when he clearly isn't. It doesn't end with character either. Like the explanation of how fast Instant Transmission is: it's literal teleportation, which is why even those faster than Goku lose track of him whenever he teleports. Or how they tried to make it seem like getting Super Saiyan required a lot of training when it clearly never did. Those who never cared to pay attention and/or totally buy into Goku's "ally to good" non-sense, among things are usually in for a HUGE shock when they finally see the real Goku in Dragon Ball, Kai, and Super. But anyways enjoy the show :)

you read my mind, I was gonna recommend this one, this one is my favorite, Gohan never had any internal monologue other than the English, which they do the same in DBZ kai. and yes that music, adds such more emotion! Also! Gohan and Goku have the same voice actor in Japan. Whose had been doing their voices since the 90s and to current time.

After finishing all of Dbz can you guys watch the Dbz Abridged it only goes from the Saiyan saga up to the Cell saga. This part is pretty good in it too. 👍

This is beyond epic, the epicness, the chillss…. In spanish(latin) is as good as in japanesse, thank you for showing her and showing us the reaction for this epic scene in its original dub! Loved it!

You need to listen to the English version of that song that's playing lol honestly TFS done a wicked job on the English version

Sorry for your girl bro. A woman will never understand. Even I know that you saw the secne a million times like everyone of us but still have the same impact and goosebumps everytime we see it.never gets old. I can tell by the look on your face.

Guys you should watch the "español latino" version! Just EPIC

I love the japanese versions. No words spoken from gohan during the transformation yet so raw

narrator: now baris will join the ufc fight, in extereme moments, a red light appears now Baris; ... roars 🌩

Awesome content creator doing us original version lovers justice. For me it's just the silence creates that perfect atmosphere for emotions to be portrayed whereas the English doesn't do that other than just simply go for the wow wth just happened factor. Also the power up shout is just... better.

You should let her react to Gohans transformation in different languages! Its a treat! Mexican Spanish dub kills it!

I LOVE YOUR GENUINE CARE FOR HER EXPERIENCE OF THE SERIES, BY GIVING HER THIS VERSION OF THE REACTION AS WELL! ...Sorry for the all caps, wanted to really get my respect across. xD

See those Vegetas and Gokus transformation in Japanese! Just as epic!

I love this scene so much ❤ Thank you for showing it

The Japanese slipping the Oozaru roar into the explosive transformations you see is always just an amazing addition that I wish the dub would’ve adopted. The silence before Gohan’s exploding really speaks volumes. It’s the literal breaking point of a child who doesn’t like fighting, who’s been through tremendous loss and pain in his young life who doesn’t want to be there who just silently cracks and lets the monster come out and take over. Grew up on the dub but this and maybe a handful of other original scenes are just vastly superior to what I was raised on.

16: I. Am just. A head! Vegeta: Well, maybe you should quot while you are!

Guys I really love the way you enjoy all of this because it makes me remeber all My childhood and how good it was. But let me tell you that when I saw this moment it was so different. I'm from México, and in this episode was one of the greatest moments that I remember, not only for the episode by itself but the way of the voice actress made this scream was incredible. I'll love if you see this moment in that dub. You don't hace to make another vídeo, just only answering this comment. You can find it in KZfaq searching this "Gohan ssj2 grito latino sin musica" Pls whatch it, I promisse it's amazing. Love You guys❤️

the Original Synchro is just the best ;)

Finally !! Finally !! The Japanese version it is perfect !! That's the way guys, thank you for showing her this version too !!

Japaneses version is so awesome. The fun fact is Goku and Gohan voice actor is a same WOMAN

Too bad we can’t see the subs. This transformation scene is incredible. Team Four Star also did an amazing job with the English cover of the song.

I like this version better just because of the song. The internal dialogue for Gohan in the English Dub was fine, except for the words “i feel it sleeping”. He could have stayed quiet up until the snap and then continued on with the other line “and I’m not going to watch this further anymore!”

I'll let Masako Nozawa's LEGENDARY scream speak for itself for this scene. Nough said.

Thanks for releasing this, I prefer the Dub but this version has its place in my heart. Loving the channel and the videos guys!

You guys really should watch the transformation scene from the DBZ abridged version. sure they do a lot of comedy but they kept the seriousness of the transformation scene. With the sound editing i think its the most epic version.

This was awesome to see her reaction to this. Growing up u had to get DB any way I could. Funny story when I left the Dominican republic Dragonball was just airing, when I came to the US, ti was during the early days of the Namek Saga, when Goku was on his way and I was so confused lmao I thought that travel through space aged him. Anyways Dragonball ran through is completion in my country meaning from DB to DBGT. So I had an uncle record it for me on vhs, in the meantime I would go to Chinatown in the Bronx and buy bootleg 3 episode tapes from the Japanese original (they didn't have any legit DB on sale here yet) and and the movies. This was also an experience as the tapes could be from early cell saga to Kate Majin buu. So eventually I ended up watching the entire series in English, japanese, latin American Spanish and the Spaniard duh. Each with it's own charm.

I really appreciated this! I think that this is one of those scenes that even if you grew up on the American version, it's highly respected. So it was awesome that you took the moment to showcase both!

Japanese Version of DBZ is awesome 👍👍🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥👏👏👏👏👏

Hopefully, Madison doesn't see this comment, but the disappointment gohan generates after this saga is depressing.

I'm not Japanese or American but I already said i prefer this version here in this episode over dub music it shows Gohan emotions better but in next episode transformation i prefer Faulkner music 💯👍 Also the roar here awesome because it's (oozaru roar) Btw I want your girlfriend reaction on dbza series after cell saga

Whenever someone has tears in their eyes and their not making a sound, run lol

Guys, this is not an add, I don’t know Barris, but the next 5 episodes that finish the Cell Saga are already up on their Patron and you get to see these 2 cry and hug for a measly $5. Don’t pull out your hair waiting for the next episodes! Go to their Patron and binge on the best episodes yet for less than what you would spend on a burger! Plus they got some cool extras there as well!

Thanks a lot for posting this extra video Baris and Madison, it was really awesome to see the comparison and Madison’s reaction to it as well as to hear Baris’ thoughts on it 👍🏻 .

This is so amazing.!!! Literally tearing up.... It's been a hell of a journey.....

i’ve already been torn about this scene because i think the actual transformation hits better in the sun but i just love “gohan’s anger” so much

FUN FACT: To show how primal Gohan becomes during this moment, they added the Saiyan Great Ape roar when he screamed

you can see the guy crying beacoup of how that moment when we're kid was amazing and sudenlly burst of rage even for us the specator

I was wondering if you were gonna show this to her. I'm normally a Falconer Dub fan over everything else but Gohan's SSJ2 Transformation was equally good for me either way. Love it!

I'm genuinely confused what you both mean by the Japanese version being "quieter". I own the American dub version and there's no music at all during this scene JUST dialogue. I see the main key difference is the song and then slight change to the voice lines. But thank you, I never knew this existed since I have never seen Dragonball Z Sub and the song definitely makes more of an impact imo

Grew up with the American dub of Dragon Ball Z. But when I first heard this scene in original Japanese YEEEEEEEEARS ago on my DVD, it was like I watched a completely different show. unmei no hi is necessary

The biggest thing for me is that the original knows when to use silence. Music isn't always on like it is in the dub.