this feels so extremely relavent. especially the part where she says that inquisition really seems to want us to know who she is.

Haha came to these comments to say exactly this lol! Amazing!

He didn't ''kill'' her, you idiot. gods, how can people be so ignorant? Flemeth has been holding out for Mythal through the ages, ''seeking the justice denied to her'' as Mythal granted her the power to attain hers. She isn't clinging onto life for no reason. Somehow, that justice is aligned with the dread wolf's purpose, but it isn't completely clear yet. But to say he ''killed her'', when she sounded like a dear friend; the straw that drove him to an action he deems too far (in retrospect), is absurd. It's like complexity and nuance doesn't exists your dictionaries, and probably why you fools can't comprehend any character more fleshed out than a *boy scout* , or a *mustache-twirling villain* .

The difference is that Mythal consented with Solas. And Solas likely considers himself eternally suffering by his own failures

@@leone41ll Do you feel better now? Does insulting people make you feel superior? Because with all that talk of nuance and you think you can judge my ability to understand the subtlety and nuance from reading one comment. lol How can you talk AT a real person and take yourself seriously enough to make a comment about how well they understand fictional characters? We tend to see ourselves in others and it belies the fact that you're just a bad person, my boy. Maybe you have some mental infirmities that limit your ability. I don't know. But either way it would be beneath me. Have a nice day.

@@ConnorLonergan i don't know about consent. I think that she didn't fight back because of 2 reasons. 1. This is probably part of her plan. 2. Killing him would break her own plan. But it doesn't mean that's not what he INTENDED to do. Solas wanted her power and if it meant killing her he was going to get it. If he picked up the orb after he beats Corypheus and it worked, we would've been the first people to catch that mfer. And you could've been his lover or not. It did not matter. He's gonna feel bad about it later but you gonna die now. If you really pay attention to Trespasser's narrative and the convo with Solas you'll be able to see that it's him who controls the mark and is making it hurt you so you bring it back to him. He can turn it on and off at will while you're there. You only see it if you try to attack him. That guy is the worst lol

@@Goodboysforlife Ok, on one, that would mean there was consent from Mythal; I mean, why bother planning for someone to kill you yet not want them to kill you? And as for two, yes, his original plan was not to kill Mythal, just grab the Orb from Cory after fixing the mess. But that ended up going sideways, so Solas enacts a contingency, which meant taking Mythals power. as for the Inquisitor, when Solas grabbed the Orb, no, he would not have killed them then and there; in fact, his plan involved keeping the Inquisition (or at last the Inquisitor) around because they prove to be a stabilizing force, a force that would make the tearing of the Veil seems like a medical suicide (in his opinion to be precise.) And even when he does tear down the Veil, contrary to popular belief, not everyone in Thedas dies from it. The Tearing of the Veil would be akin to a natural disaster. Something that would cause apoptotic destruction and death, but Survivors would be a thing. Also, Solas doesn't "turn the mark on and off at will." what he does in Trespasser is stabilize it for a short while. But the power is too unstable, so amputating is the only way to save the Inquisitor. (an amputation he gives to the Inquisitor regardless of relationship. I'd say that eliminates the whole "wants the Inquisitor dead." Idea if he is saving them anyway.)

Interesting.

I think you're right!!

That's exactly what I was thinking as soon as I heard about the Aravel slave carts. That their true purpose was forgotten and the Dalish just interpreted them as something else entirely. Like the Vallaslin.

Thank you! I agree, the writing and world building is so awesome!

It really is amazing. It can seriously contend with how deep Tolkien's work was. I wish Gaider was still with Bioware or at the very least the top consultant to the history and lore since Dragon Age is pretty much his baby.

@@andrewvincent7299 agreed, Gaider there would be great but I still have hope with Patrick considering his contributions and writings were amazing Here's hoping Dreadwolf goes in a good direction with the lore and everything!

I hadn't known about Tiamat before - I just read her wiki page and I can't help seeing parallels to Mythal??? My head is swarming with new new heories rn...

The evanuris are coming back since Solas will tear the veil down and they are the villains in the future. Thats the way the series will go it seems and tevinter will probably follow the old gods the evanuris

Also, very interested in your thoughts on the qunari as a created race :)

yes to bad solas didnt like it 😂

Furthermore though, in this video Iron Bull says that the Kossith didn’t look like how they do now? So were they the Ancient Elves that were experimented on with the Dragon Blood? Iron bull continues to say that “Dragons are the embodiment of Raw power but it’s all uncontrolled, Savage” that makes me think of the Tal Vashoth because since those who are qunari and part of the Qun are usually controlled by them and they make sure that their murder like instincts are kept under control. But the tal vashoth turn their backs on the Qun maybe because the dragon blood causes them to become outlaws and the rage furthers them to act out and become savage like creatures just like Dragons. I probably make no sense but that’s my full theory thesis here. Do hope you make a video on this if you can!

@@teamdaigurren6007 To add on to your theory, Iron bull says that they were brought south to thedas but he isn’t sure why. I think that Ancient Elves that had Dragon blood mixed with their DNA (which may be the Kossith) were exiled from the Tevinter Imperium because the experiment they did on these Ancient Elves went complete wrong and they became waaay too uncontrollable and started wreaking havoc which could be linked to the whole the war that seems to always happen between Tevinter and the Qunari but I could be grasping for straws here lol.

I find Corypheus' knowledge about the Qunari most interesting because of the timeline. Obviously Tevinter pilfered the *remains* of Arlathan, but that was after the Elvan "Gods" had been locked away, and it was even later that the Magisters Siderial entered the Golden City... just Cory is so far removed in time from Ghil, so if she is responsible for Kossith experiments creating what we now know as the Qunari how did Cory discover this if the Qunari didn't arrive in Theadas until *after* he was imprisoned by the Grey Wardens?

@@happythoughts4553 What is the Old gods shared secrets like this with them?

It is more likely that humans came from across the sea, where they had a separate civilisation from elves in Thedas, probably also linked to the fade before the veil, and then it crumbled after the veil was created, and thus migration happened. Wouldn't it be too much for elves to literally create (almost) every other race? That would be literally the worst decision if the creators of the games made it so

@@KateeAngel Sure- and it would also be kinda eye rolling. "The elves did this!" again is getting a little tiresome tbh. (And I'm a huge elf stan XD) Besides- it kinda takes away any agency humans have

@@KateeAngel I mean presumably all that exists either came from the sky/fade/spirits or from the earth/titans, elves formed out of spirits, dwarves used to be part of titan hiveminds. It would suck way more if we know how all else came to exist except the super special humans bc humans are real etc. They should be a proper part of the world.

Humans didn't evolve from primates, they appeared spontaneously shortly after the Veil was created, and their history doesn't remember a time before the Veil. More than likely they are spirits that were trapped on this side of the Veil in physical forms when the Veil was put up. Which is similar to how elves came to be, they were once spirits that took physical form.

Maybe those were the "beasts of the sky" that she gifted Andruil!

Probably she killed all her sky creatures except the ones she gifted to the elven gods and griffons seems like something that would be a great majestic gift.

@@girltriesgames very likely. Griffons being majestic creatures could be a great gift and them being used by the Evanuris would actually be a reason that griffons would be considered in high regard

I don't read many codexs so this could possibly be wrong, but did she create dragons, and if she created dragons could the kosith be remnants of that?

ooooooooh. Interesting. I never did that quest so I read through a bunch of the related lore. All the different types of lyrium pools. Very interesting stuff.

😂 lol

Thank you! I have some more I'm working on as I have time! I'm sorry I'm such a slow poke! 😋

That was one of my first thoughts, too when I first read the codex! I'm not quite sure what I think about them now, but they're definitely intriguing

@@girltriesgames That's what I love so much about extended DA lore. The unreliable narrators leave a lot of room for speculation, and honestly, some questions don't need definite answers. Please keep up the good work! P.S. When it comes to the riddle, it's possible that Andruil, after coming back from a hunt, was so taken by madness that she started hunting Ghilan'nain. And since we have no details on how exactly Mythal managed to rid Andruil of her madness and Void armor, it's possible that Andruil was never the same after the battle, and that Ghilan'nain went after Mythal because of this. Either way, I am rooting for Ghillie all the way.

Another a month too late comment. I always was under an impressions that there are so many dark spawn simply because the Blight firrst rolled over the dwarves, not necceserily that they were the first ones. And we know for sure that we get baby darkspawn from broodmothers that are corrupted "normal" females: a fallen dwarven empire => many, many dwarven broodmothers. But I feel like the first darkspawn being dwarves would be below the level of plot-twist we are used to by now in DA!

lol thank you!

Wow thank you so much!!

lol I'm glad someone caught that

This is what I suspect, too, because in Greek mythology the moon is associated with Diana the Huntress. The stag would be 'Andruil's animal' (Ghilan'nain) and Mythal put the moon in the sky, which could be a reference to Mythal healing Andruil or even making her a goddess. There's more going on with this pantheon than we've intuited even yet.

Hmm, could be! I guess I just always equate anything halla with Ghil. We'll see I guess!! I can't wait!

@@girltriesgames It wasn't a bad guess. Besides, the two are very close.

@@girltriesgames you absolutely could be right; there's been so much obfuscation in the Elven lore that pretty much anything will work at this point, if they want to twist stuff around.

Oh, wow, I hadn’t thought to interpret the mural this way before. What led you to identifying the horns with Andruil? Ghilan’nain’s the only one depicted with horns or halla in game, and in the codices Andruil’s mentioned with the hare, which, imo supports Solas’s assertion that she’s a goddess of sacrifice. What led you to identify horns with her? I’d be eager to see anything in game that depicts her this way.