Gisa vs Kroxa vs Siona vs Queen Marchesa EDH / CMDR game play for Magic: The Gathering

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@TherapyForNarhwals 4 жыл бұрын

“Joey excitedly...” *chicken screech* “copies it” 😂

@fel_95 4 жыл бұрын

that's my new ringtone now

@ArcturusMinsk 4 жыл бұрын

More of a "Star Wars" klaxon

@MetalFerno09 4 жыл бұрын

Completely reasonable reaction from Joé seeing the coffers hit the field honestly

@MetalFerno09 4 жыл бұрын

Got hearted and reacted like Joé

@DarkEinherjar 4 жыл бұрын

Too bad he then proceeded to do nothing with it.

@DarkEinherjar 4 жыл бұрын

It seems a lot of people forget that Uro and Kroxa also trigger when they attack...

@Walkingc0rpse 4 жыл бұрын

Also a case or 2 where they should have discarded from Pain Magnification

@TheMightyBattleSquid 4 жыл бұрын

@@Walkingc0rpse I noticed that too!

@DarkEinherjar 4 жыл бұрын

@@Walkingc0rpse maybe they ignored the triggers because their hands were already empty. Also, Kroxa's ETB doesn't trigger Pain Magnification (it's life loss, not damage).

@tzarl 4 жыл бұрын

@@DarkEinherjar Even if they had empty hands, they would still take the three damage from the trigger.

@zactrixo 4 жыл бұрын

They missed a bunch of trigger

@DarkEinherjar 4 жыл бұрын

This game in a nutshell: "LOOK MA, NO HANDS!"

@PaulGaither 4 жыл бұрын

I came for Ghoulcaller Gisa, a commander I have run since it was printed in the 2014 Sworn to Darkness deck. I rush to the decryption looking for the deck list, only to find myself reading: Gisa: I have no way to contact Julien.

@sclyze 4 жыл бұрын

Quite the bummer I'd say. But looking at the cards played, it looks like mono black zombie tribal, with living death and most likely zombie apocalypse as win cons.

@chrisviviers6360 4 жыл бұрын

1:12 - "grave Titan, Sidisi" me: damn that sidisi alternate art looking fineeeee

@DMJ94UC 4 жыл бұрын

11:50 there shouldve been another kroxa trigger as it attacked and then was recast after dying.

@jeffnorris211 4 жыл бұрын

I’m not sure why he didn’t send it to the graveyard after it died but it’s all good

@DarkEinherjar 4 жыл бұрын

@@jeffnorris211 If you don't have recursion or enough cards in the graveyard to let it escape, there's no point in sending the titan there.

@obicortes8199 4 жыл бұрын

I just came to the comments to make sure someone had pointed that out

@xgxwills2857 4 жыл бұрын

Guys this is the first time on the channel a Siona deck actually found an aura on its etb.

@DarkEinherjar 4 жыл бұрын

It's not going to be memorable until she finds Shielded by Faith and goes off.

@erikwilliams1562 2 жыл бұрын

It’s funny cuz somehow I pull Shielded almost every time Siona hits the board

@albertoxFTW 4 жыл бұрын

No Hands sitting next to a Zombie Deck guy "It's a bold strategy Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for him."

@chrislloyd4388 4 жыл бұрын

What Joé did was a tremendous show of sportsmanship that I think we miss in a lot of our games. I respect him a lot for that.

@jjcc8379 4 жыл бұрын

The slowest , most predictable, but yet satisfying Living Death. Nicely played

@PeterBeijl 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome game! Great to see a Ghoulcaller Gisa deck for once! Hopefully the deck will be up soon, curious to see to whole 99.

@socalacura1338 4 жыл бұрын

Lots of missed Pain Magnification triggers... 😓

@DarkEinherjar 4 жыл бұрын

All hands were probably empty, so the triggers were just ignored. Also, Kroxa's ETB doesn't trigger Pain Magnification, as that's life loss, not damage.

@ondrejbronec837 4 жыл бұрын

They seemed to have little to no cards (you can see it from how many land drops are missed), so more likely there was nothing to discard.

@quinnhait3475 4 жыл бұрын

Very minor thing, Miguel didn't draw from playing the angelic gift at 3:29

@astonrichardson5288 4 жыл бұрын

Siona has so much combo potential! Especially with Shielded By Fate! It's nice to see a low-budget deck do well :)

@cookiecreep9204 4 жыл бұрын

Damn wish i could get my hands on that Gisa list, i want to build her so much... The zombie Marrow Gnawer!

@xsenit 7 ай бұрын

I love people who play black like that, thats my favorite playstyle and its quite rare to see that many ppl play similar graveyard decks with those kind of commanders.

@admanios 4 жыл бұрын

Just an FYI: Joé should have kept the card in hand when he drew from the Monarch (not that it would have mattered...).

@MTGMuddstah 4 жыл бұрын

You're right. We only caught the sequencing thing later on.

@dtopa7524 4 жыл бұрын

@Joe where did you get your sleeves??! I cant find those Dragon Shields anywhere >.

@AidanWR 4 жыл бұрын

That moment when an elephant has more authority than a queen

@sundowneyes 4 жыл бұрын

could there be a chance we see a deck list of the Gisa deck? love ya dood

@tommya591 4 жыл бұрын

Joe and Miguel playmats are screwing with my eyes....

@Deacfreak2007 4 жыл бұрын

Gisa is my all-time favorite Commander. Love this game.

@lucasbareis-golumb2388 4 жыл бұрын

If the Cult of Rakdos is having fun, no one is!

@SeanteBrown 4 жыл бұрын

Gotta love when the zombies rule the night 💪🏾

@jinxcurse6113 4 жыл бұрын

Question because joè is the active player, could he have not stacked the sheoldred and marchesa trigger? Because they trigger at the same time can he choose how the triggers resolve? Edit grammer.

@MTGMuddstah 4 жыл бұрын

You're right. He made a slight mistake at that point.

@jinxcurse6113 4 жыл бұрын

thank you

@DarkEinherjar 4 жыл бұрын

He can only choose the order if he controls both triggers. Otherwise, the active player's triggers go to the stack first, then the non-active players' triggers, in turn order, and they resolve in reverse order. Joé doesn't control the Sheoldred trigger, so he has to sacrifice a creature before Marchesa can give him a token.

@raidgoblin6933 4 жыл бұрын

@@DarkEinherjar sheoldred and marchesa are both atb , since Joé was the active player marchesa should be first, though i wonder, can he choose to have it be last as the active player?

@des4497 4 жыл бұрын

Mad respect to Joé for scooping but not scooping

@AidanWR 4 жыл бұрын

There were a few pain magnification triggers that were missed

@rhainex5952 4 жыл бұрын

If you can get a deck list from Julien's gisa deck if possible please and thank you!

@Choom89 4 жыл бұрын

So I've only seen a tribal Sliver deck pop up once since I've been subscribed, how do you feel about playing as/against them? I have a fully tribal Sliver deck which is why I ask, with the newer Slivers that have been added I wonder how perception has changed. For the record I don't lead with Overlord and tutor all day, I have that option but I tend to let The First Sliver command so that my game will feel less predictable.

@RecklessFables 4 жыл бұрын

Fearing slivers is kind of a meme. Tables I play at are so high power they have no chance.

@Choom89 4 жыл бұрын

@@RecklessFables where do you think Slivers fall in terms of power? I'm certainly no cEDH veteran, but Slivers can accomplish some pretty nasty combos. At least in terms of pure damage and survivability.

@newtpondskipper 4 жыл бұрын

@@RecklessFables I get hated out anytime I play slivers, even if there are better decks. Kind of a joke despite how powerful the "could" be.

@geekmp3 4 жыл бұрын

I thought for sure that Tainted Remedy was going to bite somebody... Maybe next time. Great game!

@DarkEinherjar 4 жыл бұрын

I wonder why he didn't go for Exquisite Blood to complete the combo...

@Vian888 4 жыл бұрын

Am I going crazy or did Seb tap fetchlands as normal lands multiple times instead of doing the fetch? Edit: sorry missed the urborg on turn 2

@eusouzoom 4 жыл бұрын

I think you missed the narration at 6:10 when Joé copied the discard spell with the scepter.

@Felhate 4 жыл бұрын

PSA: Run Graveyard Hate. With no blue on the table, the mono black player was able to just mill himself without interference. It was only a matter of time before he was going to resolve a Living Death type card.

@DarkEinherjar 4 жыл бұрын

That's what I tell people who complain about Meren, but a lot of people just answer "but I don't want to dedicate deck slots to GY hate, it doesn't help me win!"

@TheRedGauntlet 4 жыл бұрын

So hapy that Gisa won.

@NE5pats 4 жыл бұрын

i will like the decklist for Gisa

@SmugLookingBarrel 4 жыл бұрын

Kroxa also triggers when it attacks, so it should have triggered at 11:50

@jacobmeagher 4 жыл бұрын

Interesting, he said at 1:15 sidisi but it wasn't there in the starting hand?

@bernieklau8063 4 жыл бұрын

FIRST! LOVE YOUR CONTENT!

@jlbrooks74 4 жыл бұрын

Any chance you could have players not use such busy mats for recorded games? Really rough on the eyes and can't tell if there's anything on the board or not 🤔

@MTGMuddstah 4 жыл бұрын

I'll see about suggesting it once I'm back filming in shops.

@Nailgraizer 4 жыл бұрын

Oh my that Living Death was glorious. No GY hate?

@aghost4831 4 жыл бұрын

Is pain magnification miss trigger for few times?

@DarkEinherjar 4 жыл бұрын

Their hands were empty, so no point in mentioning the triggers. Also, Kroxa doesn't trigger Pain Magnification; Kroxa causes life loss, not damage.

@JLPAG1 4 жыл бұрын

It's amazing how much more fun games tend to be when there aren't any blue decks at the table. lol

@gabrielhussain2747 4 жыл бұрын

Please please please can you get juliens deck build list, I really wanna make something like it

@julesmartin6972 3 жыл бұрын

4:39 man if this was my playgroup we'd be hitting the discard you cards deck

@byBloby 4 жыл бұрын

in 3:59 can anyone tell me why sidisi triggers if its not in battlefield? Thx :3

@CA-zn8hu 4 жыл бұрын

Thats how the mechanic works. She was in play to see she exploited something (herself). Now if she's removed by other means before her trigger resolves you won't get the tutor effect.

@atlasrises4 4 жыл бұрын

Did Joé fork the unnerve?

@williamirvine4322 3 жыл бұрын

i feel like seb having a thought vessel was just a cruel joke

@markdolon7037 4 жыл бұрын

That manly scream tho.

@rentonnoah7961 4 жыл бұрын

Why did no one attack Seb, do you not like having a hand?

@ZeroTSONG 4 жыл бұрын

Hey Julien log in here and share that list plz!

@Krazy0Beaner 4 жыл бұрын

Where can i get the siona players playmatt!

@ballsoutforbolas7555 4 жыл бұрын

Ebay

@miguelcloutier3784 4 жыл бұрын

It's home made

@ElusiveOtter 4 жыл бұрын

10:48 * angry power tool noises *

@crovax1375 4 жыл бұрын

I was really cheering for Kroxa this match! Oh well maybe next time

@isaoblack987 4 жыл бұрын

Missed the gain of life off the cartouche fight as Siona had lifelink from the armadillo cloak.

@Fauna_CR 4 жыл бұрын

Armadillo Cloak doesn't give lifelink.

@DeltaFiend 4 жыл бұрын

@@Fauna_CR It doesn't give lifelink, but it does have "Whenever enchanted creature deals damage, you gain that much life."

@germanyjones2700 4 жыл бұрын

No blue decks! Great game love dat sire so thicc

@hectormorales4090 4 жыл бұрын

Zs for the winz ;)

@aarong2606 4 жыл бұрын

3:25 think miguel forgot his draw off angelic gift :/

@Big_Dai 4 жыл бұрын

A Siona, how fun..... I wonder what the deck does......

@thrashermaster4656 Жыл бұрын

Came for ghoulcaller gisa since I’m making my own deck

@pkphantom 4 жыл бұрын

It pleases me to no end to see copy magic being used in a competitive deck. All my friends told me "stop using those spells they're bad," this is my vindication! *HA!* 😁

@shelkofsky1 4 жыл бұрын

Sadly most of the decks on this channel are not "competitive". That isn't a dis. Sure they put thought into them and want to win, but anyone if these decks vs a "competive" edh would get demolished.

@the_social_gammer1976 2 жыл бұрын

Rip I want that gisa deck

@EDHNeoRoyal 4 жыл бұрын

Zombies! Zombies! Zombies!

@Smaul002 3 жыл бұрын

Does anybody here run Siona? Any pros and cons? How does it play?

@ibenpolanco6280 4 жыл бұрын

2:00 he plays bloodstone mire but casts kroxa?

@DarkEinherjar 4 жыл бұрын

Urborg on the field lets fetchlands tap for black.

@luizlozzanosanches4128 4 жыл бұрын

decklist gisa please

@chrisblack7583 4 жыл бұрын

How are you guys still able to play magic during quarantine?

@DarkEinherjar 4 жыл бұрын

Andrew has a huge backlog of recorded games from before the quarantine. He won't be running out of games anytime soon.

@ballsoutforbolas7555 4 жыл бұрын

I thought you took the 3 damage from Kroxa if you didn’t discard a card, not both ?

@MstrKipper 4 жыл бұрын

You take the damage if you discard a land, but you always have to discard

@Bumbum_Inspector 4 жыл бұрын

"then each opponent who didn't discard a nonland card this way loses 3 life." If you don't have any cards to discard, it counts as "not discarding a nonland card" and thus they lose 3 life. The only way to not lose 3 life is to discard a nonland card. If you discard a land or you can't discard anything, you lose 3 life.

@ballsoutforbolas7555 4 жыл бұрын

Ahhh ok I just need to learn how to read lol

@garrett1433 4 жыл бұрын

I wish I could play commander, sadly all my lgs are closed :(

@rasetsu6146 4 жыл бұрын

If you have a webcam or even a smartphone (some programs allow you to use your phone as both a webcam and microphone) you can play EDH using those. Some discords communities existed already before the crisis (PlayEDH for example) but they have quickly expanded since then because of the whole situation.

@TheWhiteWizardPL 4 жыл бұрын

Try Cockatrice MTG with your friends. Its free.

@phyrexian_dude4645 4 жыл бұрын

Sire of insanity usually resolves a lot of games just by itself.

@RecklessFables 4 жыл бұрын

Clearly not by itself, since you need to have a plan to win, otherwise it's just like playing Armageddon with no plan to win

@coltonkeller9302 4 жыл бұрын

Phrexian processor with Ghoulcaller

@pntbller14 4 жыл бұрын

Monarch just puts too much of a target on your head tbh one of the big reasons I went Kaalia > Queen when picking what mardu deck I wanted to build. That and Angles Demons and Dragons all United in a single deck sounded epic

@tlothompson6935 2 жыл бұрын

Lol Monarch puts a target on you but Kaalia DOESNT? Thats funny. Honestly this monarch deck wasn't played properly either. He played zero cards that stopped people from attacking him.

@The_Nerd_King 4 жыл бұрын

Good thing no one had a T Crypt!

@PaulGaither 4 жыл бұрын

Or Relic of Progentius, which is far better.

@The_Nerd_King 4 жыл бұрын

@@PaulGaither yeah, that too

@ML7WL 4 жыл бұрын

think kroxa is more aggressive with recurring spells that goes in the grave after resolving, but nobody asked.

@evafox9696 4 жыл бұрын

We've banned Sire of Insanity in our playgroup because it literally grinds games to a halt. People lose their hands and have to just top deck until it is dealt with. No surprise it did the same thing here.

@DarkEinherjar 4 жыл бұрын

And this is why graveyard-based decks are awesome: discarding and milling just gives them more fuel.

@coreysierchio4650 4 жыл бұрын

...Long May She Reign.

@ronaldrogan7546 3 жыл бұрын

Seb played with a Bloodstained Mire and Arid Mesa and didn't sac or pay a life for either lol. How are you gonna run fetchlands and do that lol

@BananaNationTV 4 жыл бұрын

11:52 Kroxa has an attack trigger for everyone to lose 3 as well as the next ETB trigger. Also 12:55 an opponent can only lose as much life as they have so Grey Merchant only gets 6 (which should have been 3) from Joé, not 20

@DarkEinherjar 4 жыл бұрын

No, players can lose more life than they have and go negative, and the Merchant will gain its controller the full life loss.

@davyfjones 4 жыл бұрын

Gisa won! Yeeeeee!

@allegrocube2663 3 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't Joey's tainted remedy atleast deal damage to Julien before he died?

@JayC426 4 жыл бұрын

Seb make that Bloodstained mire make Mana wtf!?!

@DarkEinherjar 4 жыл бұрын

Urborg.

@NarffetWerlz 4 жыл бұрын

Gaem revuw tiem: Y YU NO HAS GRAVEYARD HATE

@DarkEinherjar 4 жыл бұрын

Because some people think they shouldn't run answers in their decks if said answers don't help develop their own boards.

@HellBentHitman 4 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't it have been 46 life to gary since one opp. Was at 6? So many other missed triggers as well. Kroxa attacked and the angelic draw.

@PaulGaither 4 жыл бұрын

No. You can go into negative numbers. You lose as a state based effect if you life total is 0 or less. You do not lose one life at a time and die at zero. You lose it all at once, then the game checks our life total. This is why Platinum Angel works. You can be -100 and still not lose.

@MTGMuddstah 4 жыл бұрын

Hi! There's a similar ruling which you can see on Gatherer for Exsanguinate, but: "Players can lose more life than they have. For example, say you’re playing a multiplayer game in which one of your opponents has 3 life and your other opponent has 10 life. If you cast Exsanguinate with X of 4, your opponents will wind up at -1 life and 6 life, respectively. You’ll gain 8 life."

@iiGiacomo 4 жыл бұрын

No flame to Seb but is Kroxa fun? I feel like making everyone discard cards all the time wouldn’t be fun for most tables.

@seb4856 4 жыл бұрын

It isn't and that's why this deck is long gone xD

@DarkEinherjar 4 жыл бұрын

Neither is Stax, but that doesn't stop people from running it...

@SyckestBlah 4 жыл бұрын

To be honest, I love annoyingly unfun decks, if they're ridiculous enough. I kind of want to build one or two Commander decks and play again (I have stopped playing a few years ago), and one deck I want to build is Angus McKenzie. As in, my win condition is not losing and making everyone else draw out their libs. It runs all kinds of fogs and just enough counterspells to keep people from winning with combos. Anything else you may try to throw at me.

@tylerbulmer9415 4 жыл бұрын

When you tap fetch for mana😂

@DarkEinherjar 4 жыл бұрын

Urborg allowed him to.

@MTGMuddstah 4 жыл бұрын

Urborg is out. I specifically mention it.

@tylerbulmer9415 4 жыл бұрын

MTG Muddstah I know I just thought that was funny

@lordwaterbird1861 4 жыл бұрын

Always the wrong queen :( The true queen is not amused her future-she is overpresented. Long may she reign

@d9_1056 4 жыл бұрын

My money's on Gisa

@noalindqvist9826 4 жыл бұрын

Mine is on Siona

@eliakimrodrigues 4 жыл бұрын

Ours on Queen Marchesa - long may she reign

@d9_1056 4 жыл бұрын

@@eliakimrodrigues there's a new queen in town.

@dannyzep92 4 жыл бұрын

Nonblue pods are always intersting to watch

@imperialtutor8687 4 жыл бұрын

this was a bit of a sad showing. people weren't playing at their best it seems. kroxa is great but you cannot overcommit on a deck that obviously wants to fill the graveyard. Seb gave Julien the game as soon as he played that sire of insanity

@samuelparkes8662 4 жыл бұрын

Gray merchant only gains the amount of life lost which was 46, not 60.

@MTGMuddstah 4 жыл бұрын

Hi! That's not actually correct. There's a similar ruling which you can see on Gatherer for Exsanguinate, but: "Players can lose more life than they have. For example, say you’re playing a multiplayer game in which one of your opponents has 3 life and your other opponent has 10 life. If you cast Exsanguinate with X of 4, your opponents will wind up at -1 life and 6 life, respectively. You’ll gain 8 life."

@samuelparkes8662 4 жыл бұрын

@@MTGMuddstah ah you are right. I read the ruling wrong and assumed it was in line with the inability to pay more life than one has

@fq3530 4 жыл бұрын

Kroxa pronunciation grinds a tiny bit each time.

@IQuarent 4 жыл бұрын

12:57: Julien would not gain the full 60, as he would only gain life "equal to the life lost this way". 46 life was lost, so he would only gain that much.

@FernandoRojas-py6fn 4 жыл бұрын

Julien shouldn't gain 60 life, he should gain 46 only, because one opponent only have 6 life

@clrl936 4 жыл бұрын

Players can lose more life than they have. The player that had 6 life still lost 20 life and went to -14.

@darkGhostSith 4 жыл бұрын

So for future refrence Gisa player shouldn't gain 60 life from Gary as Marchesa player had only 6 life, it should have been 46. This still probably wouldn't change winner of the game, but it sometimes matters.

@Zaalbarjedi 4 жыл бұрын

For your future reference - you are totally incorrect.

@danriemer9724 4 жыл бұрын

RainbowSnake that’s incorrect. You can be drained for more life than you have and players can have negative life.

@MTGMuddstah 4 жыл бұрын

@isaachaahr8691 4 жыл бұрын

That is incorrect. It is a single instance of damage and then the game checks for anything died to it.

@darkGhostSith 4 жыл бұрын

Ok sorry, my mistake. The more you know.