Love you Cliffe n Stuard, God bless.

You're awesome Cliffe!!!! GOD bless you, your family & your ministry!!!!!!!!

Maybe God should have done this, maybe God should not have done that, maybe God should have created him, maybe God should not have created her, maybe God should have only created those who will follow him, maybe not......the basis of these types of arguments are that people should not be held responsible for their actions, whether one will end up in heaven or hell is based on what they knowingly choose, and thats what the youth in the black shirt does not want..

A bunch of chess players taking on the master. Interesting and thought provoking.

"Hell" simply means separation from God. If you want to live separate from him, then he grants your wish. If you want to live with him, then he grants that wish. It's that simple -- now make your choice.

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Am I the only one who noticed the catci in the back ground? I think its flipping us off... Satan's always trying to get his digs in...yet more proof that God has a sense of humor. LOL. † Love Cliff...he's great. :)

Seems like the first guy thinks God should have created a perfect world. If only he'd read Genesis.

He doesn't offer these jumpers the parachute. Cliffe is letting them stew in their juices. He's urging them to read the Gospels for themselves.

Cliff missed the chance to tell the last guy about grace. That's what he was asking about. He was saying is it not better to do good without a reward than to do it to earn forgiveness.

@11:15, how can someone or something take a knife away from someone before he even had the knife? Sorry but this kid seems to think circles are square.

You know what I like most about Cliffe? He doesn't refer to himself as Pastor Cliffe, just Cliffe. I really don't like when ministers bestow titles upon themselves.

Was just about to go to your video and show you where you lied--mulitiple times. But, alas, you deleted it. Don't worry, I've downloaded it, as well as having taken screenshots of all of our comments. Cheers.

Paul was a third party source he helped persecute Jesus's followers then he saw Jesus after his resurrection was humbled converted then wrote about Jesus.

Before Cliff said if the big guy picked up a knife and stabbed the shorter guy, The taller guy already deserves the death penalty, already deserves to go to hell the same as me. Why??? because he and I Have Inherited Adam's sin.... No matter if he has only told one lie, It doesn't matter!!!! if you tell one lie or a million lies your a liar... No liar no thief no fornicator no adulterer Will inherit the Kingdom of God! 1st Corinthians 6:9. God cannot allow sin to be in HIS presence!!!!! That's why we all must repent and believe the gospel ... Acts 17:30. When we Truly repent Christ's righteousness is A mediately imputed to us who believe.... Not because we deserve it or we earn it but because God is merciful to those who call upon HIS NAME 🤗🥳👍🙏🙏🙏❤.

GOD could have created a world in which nobody goes to Hell. HE did in fact, but man decided he would rather have this world instead. Now we live in a world where we experience a sample of what Hell is going to be like and GOD has told us it doesn't have to be this way forever (although there is no reason why it shouldn't). The majority of the people on this planet still would rather reject GOD's offer of salvation and keep things deteriorating as they are.

This whole concept of who Christ is can get very confusing sometimes... And I'm not sure I fully understand it myself. On the one hand, you have God the father speaking to Christ as he was baptized, "This is my beloved son" You also have Christ saying, "I can do nothing of myself but what I see the father do" And again in the Garden of Gethsemane, "Father, if though be willing, let this cup pass from me, nevertheless not my will, but thine be done" and again on the cross, "Father, why hast though forsaken me? ...into thy hands I commend my spirit" To me, this very clearly illustrates that God the father and Jesus Christ are separate beings. On the other hand, you have scriptures like, "In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word WAS God" "If you have seen me, you have seen the father" "I and the father are one" "Before Abraham was, I AM" So how to we reconcile all this? After careful consideration, I truly believe God the Father and Jesus Christ to be two separate beings who are one in purpose. Christ was with the Father from the beginning as the word of his power. God the Father commanded, and Jesus did the will of the father. Through the will of the Father, Jesus created the heavens and the earth. Even when he was scared of going through the pain of suffering and death, he submitted to the will of the father. Jesus represented God in every degree, so if we see him, we would see the father. He was a representative of the Father in every conceivable way except for physically. At least, that's how I understand it.

The guy doesn't realize that it's a contradictory idea - *thus illogical* - to have both free will and a God not allowing people that will disobey him to be born. Now a good point he made is about eternal suffering in hell for some humans not being consistent with a loving God ( _still debatable tho_ ) but i don't believe the Bible teach's eternal suffering for unbelievers, it teach's eternal *DEATH.* _meaning, no more coming back, you're done for good, destroyed out of existence, body and soul_ . So in that light, it's simple and clear. You want to be with God here, you'll be with God for eternity in a really good place. You don't want anything to do with God? Ok., but because HE LOVES YOU, he won't force his presence upon you, thus he will do the next best thing a JUST and LOVING God can do., He will *terminate your existence*, probably in a lot suffering according to your works here.

if God only allowed people incapable of sin to exist, then there would be no people! there would just be robots or lower animals

The good thing about comments is that you don't have to remember them. They are frozen in time for you to see. You copied and pasted a huge text from a creation science page, didn't source it, pretended it was your own legitimate question, you knew nothing about the science involved, thus, were in no position to endorse what you posted, understand a reply, or have a conversation. You were deleted for spamming--which you did. The you made a video in outrage to them as if they were afraid of you.

I'm going to comment again on this very topic that I think I commented on in the past. End of doing a good job with that in fact including mentioning his brother losing his daughter. What does young man is missing and doesn't seem to understand and this was even one of the very problems in heaven, when there was the war in heaven Satan thought that he knew better than God and wanted to be God or the most high he is at war with God in heaven and even took a third of the angels with him when they were cast out because he wanted to take over God and take over heaven. And the main reason why he wanted to take over heaven it's not that he was righteous and you better than God he would know how to be a better ruler. And so when this young man says what he said he's trying to say like Satan I know better than God. But I don't fault this man for thinking he's not literally trying to be God but you just misunderstand what God has said. Lastly, it's actually very very simple if God knowing who will choose to do wrong or right or choose to turn from him or not was to kill everyone or not allow them to be born just to avoid the bad choices, then he would be as guilty as Satan said. Satan's challenge in heaven had to be downplayed for a tooth me I apologize played out had to be played out if this whole scenario didn't take place the fall of Man sin Jesus dying on the cross there is no way that you could prove the father to be loving and merciful and righteous nor would it save us because of the fact that if he just kept killing people to shut them up every single time including the ways he did had to sometimes in the Bible then say it would be right he's just an evil dictator when in fact it's Satan he wants to be the evil dictator. I could say more but I won't please think on this if anyone is pondering this for the very first time or doesn't know the gospel or doesn't understand God in his purpose please think about this and read carefully and his scriptures especially in the gospels God's love is perfect. I hope this came out okay because I'm using my microphone to come legally blind and sometimes it does and sometimes it does not I smoke slowly and carefully so I hope it. God bless you all!

Those students need to stop playing Sims 3, this is not virtual world boys.

Everyone would be destroyed in his perfect world that he thinks God should have made, since we are all born in sin God is destroyed everyone according to his perfect world God should have made. Because just thinking of sinning violate is perfect little world and he thinks God should have made.

We dont always have free will. Your god giving us free will is not a sign of love. God needs to step in when free will is violated.

This show should be called "Make excuses for things that I can't answer" Also, why would God HAVE to send people to hell at all - why not simply evaporate them? That isn't a logical contradiction, just a more just world and more just creator.

The world was made through Jesus Christ who is eternal son of God. John 1, 10.36 & Genesis 1.29. Since God is the Creator, humans must submitt to his will as Sin has deformed us but Jesus came to transform the body, soul, and the spirit. see www.gotquestions.org

Easy answer to this, If 'only god' has free will and he chooses to send us to hell (since we have no free choice), then he can't be considered good. If he isn't considered good then any worship is pointless as he has no obligation to honour the deals he has set out in the bible. You could be 'regenerated by jesus christ' on earth and he could just send you to hell anyway because ....he isn't good.

The destination of heaven and everlasting life is all God has to offer man, and this offer is the epitome of happiness and success. Those who choose it not, have blown it. Who in their right mind would want to be destroyed in hell? The answer is no one. So why will only a remnant make it to heaven? The answer is many succumb to satan's temptation by choosing to not believe that Jesus Christ is God who became a man. They choose to not humble themselves before God. They choose to not accept God's free offer of everlasting life. They believe satan's lies instead of God's truth. And they perish. Could it be that their weeping and gnashing of teeth is because of extreme regret when they realise they have thrown it all away.

This guy assumes he knows God's intentions. If you eliminated all the people who were going to hell, there is no way to know that the remaining people will STILL go to heaven. It just may be possible that people turn to God when they see the evil and suffering caused by others around them. God's objective IMO, is to allow the maximum amount of people to freely enter his fellowship. A possible world where fewer people enter heaven is less favourable.

Even if God could create a stone so heavy that he couldn't lift it, but he could still lift it they wouldn't be pleased with that answer. When Jesus humbled himself, he wasn't able to lift a mountain, but God the father could lift everything, by everything I mean everything, he's the very backbone by which anything haseaning, definition, and without him there's no category by whoch to define anything, without him there's literally nothing. That's why God reffered to himself as I am, to refer to himself as something would be to categorize him which would be wrong since he's like nothing else, he is, because he's the foundation by which anything is. There's no is outside of God that can give God categorization. I'm eating so I wasn't able to fully explain my reasoning, so give me your opinions if you think I'm wrong so that we may reach the teuth together.

What this man is suggesting is impossible. If God prevents someone from being born, then they never committed sin.

The whole question of “ Can God create a rock big enough that He cannot lift? “is absurd. Even if God were able to create such a rock, why would He create anything that He wouldn’t be able to control in the first place.It’s either God is all powerful or He is not God.This statement is logical incoherent.

The guy's name was CALVIN... (born Cauvin) A point of view would be CALVINIST, followers would be CALVINISTS (not calvanists)

Do we even know that this young man believes that there is a God as he professes to know what God should do as the creator of the universe. There's a large number of atheists who profess to know and judge the morality of God in what God should or shouldn't do and then use that argument to say that there is no God because of the choices God made. Why do Atheists suppose to know God knowing better than God how God ought to be. They don't even believe in God yet use their judgement to defy and deny. Knowing better than the Creator How creation should have been created. We do not have to live in this world. We are free to remove ourselves from it. For creation to exist (with relationship) this is the best that creation can be otherwise it would have been created differently. God is just and all knowing. Not only has creation been given but also the Creator has given Himself. So not only can we curse the creation but also the Creator. Our free will can deny his existence and deny his relationship. Then we can curse Him for leaving us alone. This was the best that love had to offer otherwise love would have been unable to exist. And because of this free gift you are able to curse God, deny his love and replace it with your own virtue and self-righteousness. Deny his love And say that your love is better and that God is wrong and cruel. But if you don't believe in God. Natural order should have been less cruel to your existence. Is it self determination and belief that you are fit for survival? In this harsh reality. If it is meaningless and without purpose why suffer the consequence? You cannot know love because without God love would not exist. You would be like every other creature created. This was the best and the best is yet to come. Because God so loved the world and gave you his only begotten son So that you might not perish but have eternal life. This is The Love that God has given to you This is The Love and the only creation that could make that love possible You have freedom You have choice You have relationship A relationship without the freedom to choose is not really a relationship at all. A relationship chosen, is real, Love actually has an existence then because love itself is vulnerable. You have free will and you can choose. it is man's worship of the created rather than the Creator that separates them from God. Man was created in God's image so that the image of God could be shared between mankind So that we could have relationship. We are his glory. God created his glory so lovingly That he would suffer being rejected by his creation. Mankind, a creation reflecting his likeness is the only creation able to freely reject His love. What would have been God's options for our creation? 1. No world at all vs. this world 2. Creating a world where there would have been no such thing as good or evil - an amoral world 3. Creating a world (constraint) where we could only choose good. 4. Creating this kind of world where there would be the possibility of Good and evil and we are given the option for the privilege of freedom and making the choice. Out of these four options this option is the only universe and the only world in which Love is possible In the previous three love is not possible at all. No Love. No Free will.

So God sends you to hell for you not loving him ?

I don't know what you mean by "righteous", but judging by your comment there is only "evil" and "not evil". If you think that not righteous (which you say we are not) is evil (which is all that's left) then you have at least one good reason as to how your faith is a problem in the world. All you see is evil--that is irrational, misguided, and extremely unhealthy. Bad things and worse happen, but this doesn't show at all that humans are innately evil. Life is nore beautiful than you imagine it.

That kid truly does not respect having free will. I would like to see him create new life since he clearly thinks he's better than God

I didn't expect you to acknowledge this now--even though you are more than happy to think the whole world (the majority of whom you've never met) are like yourself. I've read your comments, watched your video, asked you questions--your decpetion is plain to be seen. And now I see your cowardice, so afraid to confront your own words, your own lies, & problems, unless you can bring the world down with you. I do have a bit of sadness for you and some fear of people with thought processes like you.

Cliffe missed the point about why we have sin in this world in the first place. Because Adam ate of the fruit. From that moment on man has been living in a degrading world where man has free will, and man has suffering. That is why we need the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, so we will enter into eternity with the One True Living God, in a New heaven and new earth. But i guess you can't really blame him because he thinks that Genesis is Hebrew poetry, and it seems like he completely disregards the old testament. But, he also reads a perversion of the Bible, so his Bible does have contradictions and takes away from the deity of Christ.

The more I listen to this guy, the less I believe. Sorry, that's the truth.

You should have used Sin and according to that gentleman's perfect world that God should have made should have asked him have you ever taken something that wasn't yours? Even when you were a little kid, then according to your perfect world, God should have destroyed you cuz you just violated that perfect world that you think God should have made instead of giving us the chance to repent through Jesus Christ.

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A bunch of chess players taking on the master. Interesting and thought provoking.

A bunch of chess players taking on the master. Interesting and thought provoking.