I love how when Stuart talks, Cliffe just looks at him feeling proud of how smart he is.

There is something healthy in these conversations. Believers and nonbelievers alike. I appreciate everyone’s comments. I’m grateful for the insight!

It's evident that this young man is intelligent, but his facial expressions and body language, for example shaking his leg is either a sign of nervousness or agitation. At least he had the self-control to stay engaged rather than walking off. That's admirable. Thank you Cliffe and Stuart for sharing the Gospel of Christ to the next generation. They desperately need it.

The patience of a saint or an elder. Those determined to misunderstand, like this kid, will.

Love this father and son combo... keep preaching keep growing

The last kid was consistent with the point Cliffe explained to him, but it won't be long before that consistency is broken. Because it's impossible to live out

My BOYZ at ACTION. these kids need the Word of God more then ever these days.

Grace and Peace to you. The unbeliever thinks he's correct in saying that no one has it correct. He defeated his own claim.

Thanks for posting these, love watching the interactions between worldviews. All Glory goes unto God! Blessings to you fellow brothers!

Thank you for uploading

Ty for another fabulous upload :) God bless & take care!!!!

This is awesome. More please. God bless you all and those students too.

What an amazing man to speak up that woman had nothing to say or counter argue god is great ✝️

Cliffe seemed just a little bit annoyed today. But wow that first kid really requires great patience. Thank you guys for sowing seeds.

God bless you Cliffe 🙏

Thank you again!

Bravo! Great Job 👏🏾 love it

I used to like watching these videos more. Maybe I've grown or maybe Cliff has regressed, but I see more and more Cliff domineering people, coming with an argumentative energy, misrepresenting arguments by others and going down tangents. I saw this especially with the second guy, Jacob, though Cliff matched the first guy's unfriendly energy. Cliff also goes into talking points even when they are only somewhat relevant to what is being talked about, which doesn't come across as very strong as far as discourse is concerned. Conversely, his son is excellent and, most importantly, comes off as friendly & approachable even in disagreement. Cliff may want to humble himself in mirror to how his son humbles himself. Thanks as always for putting these up.

I wouldn't necessarily say that we discover justice, rather, it is instilled within us due to being made in the image of God. If it were not instilled within us in the fiber of our being, we would not discover it or come up with it on our own. It simply "is".

Excellent guys

For a quick chuckle look at 18:52 when the kids imitate Cliffe with there hands. That was pretty funny. His body language during these discussions are quite entertaining. I like the one on the steps in other videos where he raises his heel up on step and just stands there listing to kids say things that make no sense what so ever. Also hope this channel keeps going and going. People desperately need to hear the true Gospel/ Jesus. This younger generation could possibly be the most Godless in the history of America. Are you guys currently still going to colleges and will we see new content from 2022 or 2023? And if you do just a suggestion, The University of Miami Or University of Florida.

If there is a longer video here, it'd be good to watch. I was hoping that kid to our left would step up and speak since he thought it so cool to just stand there an make fun of Cliff (and maybe the guy Cliff is talking to?).

i luv this man

Cliffe and Jacob feel like a play straight out of a sitcom. They start circling eachother and trying to win the audience with their performance. Maybe looked normal in real life but not through a camera 😂

Stuart and Cliff are so underated🤣

It is amazing how American students sounds so smart yet philosophical and logically found wanting!

There are value questions throughout many observable systems of reality. Why are families valuable? Why is it valuable to be complimentary to your environment and other beings? Why is honesty valuable? Why is character valuable? Why is hope valuable? They are all more consistent and plausibly answered if there is life after death where these things have consequence.

He's just like his dad I love him. All he's missing is the stance😮

the first half was intense but the second half was humorous , the second guy is funny lol . Good job Cliffe

excellent

good stuff

Descartes wrestled with the issues brought up by the first young man. "I think therefore I am" is a statement recognizing that consciousness is a reality, therefore I can trust my reason. If I didn't have consciousness, my brain is the same as a rock, or just material. If I can trust my reason, I can trust reality and the laws within it. My brain isn't self-preserving and making me agree with irrational conclusions for my own benefit. If I can trust reality, then objective truths exist.

And she said, The Philistines be upon thee, Samson. And he awoke out of his sleep, and said, I will go out as at other times before, and shake myself. And he wist not that the LORD was departed from him. But the Philistines took him, and put out his eyes, and brought him down to Gaza, and bound him with fetters of brass; and he did grind in the prison house. Judges 16:20-21 And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house; and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost. And immediately there fell from his eyes as it had been scales: and he received sight forthwith, and arose, and was baptized. Acts 9:17-18 Without the LORD we are blind Only with the LORD can we see. .

This dude is the the definition of “anything but God”

Kid don't try to win an argument over the value of the human life. John 3:16-21 💝

Whether this is Twain or not, the essence remains- "When I was 18, I thought my father was pretty dumb. After a while when I got to be 21, I was amazed to find out how much he'd learned in three years."

Romans 1:22 ,Professing to be wise, they became fools.

Cliffe shoes are really nice

I’ve been watching cliff when he only had 9k followers on KZfaq

We are part of reality, and we do not know how it came to be.

Remember he said ,You shall have no other gods before me

Dam ...the mud huts story ,now we are getting something....earth is one big mud hut.

Don’t agree with Jacob but he gave a great performance. I need a show with these two.

Your words create your own reality.careful with your tongue and thought.when you think evil you will be miserable.your words create your reality.your tongue has power over life and death.careful with your tongue.

The evidence of God is clearly seen from creation. It’s very unfortunate when we want to live our lives the way we want too and not acknowledge there is a personal intimate God. With any none believer, when a believer debunks a point they make about there is no god, the none believer jumps onto another topic to try to win. Folks, please especially if you are a none believer; get to know who Jesus Christ is. We only have one chance in this life. He is righteous enough that if we acknowledge and submit to him. He will walk with us through this life but if we reject him, he respects that and separates himself from us for eternity. Consider the choice you make today, tonight. You only have once chance and our expiry date for this life is coming quick. Think, again think about about this

That sounded like a tough crowd.

These guys are two of the greatest Christian’s of our lifetime

Presuppositional critique shortens the whole debate

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Luke 17:20And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: 21Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

4:48 "If we keep getting a log jammed" - Matthew 7:3-5.

The question is assumptive as neither are true. Framing questions like this are done to win an argument on false premises.

That guy got 30 different answers and he still kept asking the same questions. My mind is blown.

Do you guys have long form videos ?

What was the question that first kid asked at the end ? He was talking too fast that i couldn't make it out ?

Proverbs 24:5 A wise man is strong; yea, a man of knowledge increaseth strength.

Matthew 19:5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? Matthew 12:26 And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?

How and when can I have one to one conversation with either of you.? Regards.

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people want to b nothing so bad. but those same people don't want u to treat them like nothing

I give the first young man major credit. He doesn't believe that there's a God but recognizes that objective moral values and duties are real. It's possible to take him seriously.... for now. It ISN'T possible to take subjectivists seriously.

Might seriously solve a few issues.do connect.

God is real & God is love & Jesus Christ is his Son & our Lord & Savior

Goodness gracious. How can someone make claims such as "I don't believe any religion has it right", and not not realize what they are saying?

17:57 What happened there? Why did they end the conversation like that?

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When the young human thinks he know more then the older men of God you have a problem. I hope in time he reject the ways of a hardened heart and seeks the one true and living God. I did and I found him. Only by his grace cause when I look back there are so many time God could have rightfully struck me down. He didn't tho and that is evidence of his mercy and long suffering.

This is the type of líes The devil uses. This is what deception means. He is Smart enought to have a good debate position against Reson and rational. He feels Smart, because he could conceptualize that level of abstract intellectual thinking. He understand that his position is against rational and reason .. but don't realize his position is unreasonable by defenition because he placed si much value on his smarts that it blinds him. He is accepting The posibility of the unreasonable just because his mind was able to grasp making His mind more trustworthy than reason because of PRIDE.

It is odd how sometimes requiring proof actually stops you from understanding.

Why do you go to funerals? Just as a duty? Should you have to set an alarm clock as a reminder to go to a so called “loved” one’s funeral because it’s just an obligation as is taking the trash out?

To the intro guys convo; The universe is finely tuned in order to support life. Why is that?

Proverbs 14:30 A sound heart is the life of the flesh: but envy the rottenness of the bones.

How is God all good, all knowing, all powerful yet inosent people die in natural disasters? Like a hurricane Katrina. Does he choose not to intervene or does he not have the power 🤔

Because the Lord has already written his right and wrong on our hearts. That’s why.

We will take a simple little verse and show you why it is not addressed to the natural man, Ecclesiastes 3:15: “That which is, already has been; that which is to be, already has been; and God seeks what has been driven away.” The “natural man” cannot grasp that, for to him reality is based only on the evidence of the senses. The man of reason could justify the verse’s end, saying if it has any meaning then the writer must mean recurrence. The sun comes every day and the moon completes its cycle and the seasons come and go. If we took a picture of the universe today, the scientists can compute how long it will take to return to this point in the picture. So the intellectual man could justify the verse; but that is not what is meant, for it is addressed not to the man of reason or the man of sense, but to the man of Imagination. What is it all about? “That which is, already has been; that which is to be, already has been, and God seeks what has been driven away.”

I have never seen a theist actually willing even trying to answer tricky questions and by tricky questions i mean absolutely basic stuff like:"Can you please present nothing more but a single rational argument why your god should be more real than the countless other gods that we humans invented?

@0:10, the kid says mathematical rules are extrapolations, a perfect time to ask the math wiz what the probability is of a living cell coming to life in a universe that dictates anything over 10 to the 19th power can't happen on its own.

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SALVATION IS ONLY IN YESHUA HAMASHIACH 🙌

It's painful listening to atheist. All thay do is contradict themselves and prove themselves to be hypocrites SMH.

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What a silly question. Did the planets just do whatever they wanted gravitationally before we “brilliant” humans came along and wrangled them into submission with the law of gravity? Hubris so thick you can’t even see it’s hubris any more lol. The thought of it.

You prove DUST.

Did a seen thing give out unseen things unto seen beings? For the universalist, I can see a lot of the universe ( by the way uni=one verse= sentence combination of words) so seen thing. Humanist, we humans are seen, so can't be us. God, a transcendent being, unseen and therefore a rational answer. We have a body which functions rather involuntarily, and a mind that sends chemical reactions to do said actions, who programmed the mind to do so, and why do we have a mind at all? I'm going to say we have it to use logic and reasoning to come to rational ideas. But most folks choose to indulge in useless info and colloquial isms ( entertainment= enter tainted mentality) Might that be a theory people could grasp if they were determined to find truth. For most folks that have tried to dispute Christianity, have come to Christ in the end, so please do try to take the route of disproving God and Christ by all means. The end is to send you to his realm not the darkness we'd rather live in blindly.

The principle “reason always comes from reason” has the exact same empirical support as the principle “reason is always instantiated by biological organisms”. Yet Cliffe would accept the former and reject the latter. He’s happy to accept inductive arguments when they support a conclusion he’s already committed to, but he rejects equally supported inductive arguments when they support a conclusion he doesn’t believe. For someone who talks so much about intellectual honestly, he’s sure not being very honest.

Matthew 11:25 At that time Jesus prayed this prayer: “O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, thank you for hiding these things from those who think themselves wise and clever, and for revealing them to the childlike.

Uh oh, cliff is squatting, things are getting real.

I can't fully hear that kid...need to work on the microphones.

If you don't know anything why should we listen?

Preach about Jesus don’t argue with fools who don’t believe in God Making them believe God exist don’t change anything people in the millennial era will still don’t believe in God

Good discussion. Cliffe asks the question Q: Is there a purpose to life? I don't think we're born with an inherent purpose as such, as social creatures it's in our interest to cooperate and get along with eachother. When we're kids and growing up I don't think we generally ask ourselves "what's my purpose in life"?, we're too busy enjoying life and getting on with lots and lots of different things. I'm 64 now, and I am still figuring out life and everything around me. I have however, figured out that it is beneficial to be kind to people and to treat people the way I would like to be treated, there's a lot to enjoy in life. I've not seen any credible evidence of a supernatural God, but I'm open to the possibility , but as life goes on, the more convinced I am that being probably doesn't exist.

Well, that's a bit of a trick question, because "we" do not ultimately exist, beyond being thoughts in the Mind of God. Our egos are not real, but literal dissociated perspectives of God, through which Consciousness (God) acts out every part of reality. All is Consciousness. Materialism is a false perspective. No sin. No evil. Not even anything good. All just is. No need for salvation. *Read Dr. Bernardo Kastrup's book, "Why Materialism is Bologna" for a modern understanding of this philosophical view. Or, read about Advaita Vedanta (ancient nondualism, based upon the Upanishads).

Young man needs to quit saying "posit" constantly and be diverse in communication to be more effective rather than just repeat words. Attending a major university. More is expected. Stuart's arguments were incredibly solid.

A common tactic among atheists is to rely on language, assuming its inherent meaning. However, they struggle to justify the fundamental meaning behind their own words, let alone how others interpret them. They fail to account for the very basis of language and its significance. In essence, by engaging in discourse, atheists inadvertently delve into metaphysical concepts, contradicting their own worldview. Living a truly atheist life becomes untenable as they unwittingly operate within the realm of the transcendent. Denying the existence of God doesn't exempt one from the confines of time, space, and existence.

Mr. Cliffe kept saying "Reason only comes from reason" What does that mean? I don't understand it. From all my observations ... , one person's observation is not that much. Even generations observations wouldn't be enough. For much much more than 1,500 years, people believed the sun went around the earth. They didn't know better. Now we know better thus we've different perspectives in reality. So are other non-physical things, too. Women had almost no right. Slavery, etc.

You're assuming any of it was "created" at all. Why not these things having ALWAYS been there forever?

everyone who argues the existence of God has a problem with SIN...

No it’s our choices to create reality. I said if we are in the light which is in gods hands it limits our mind to correct its course if not in the light there you go bottom of the pit crash course. Analyze it in your way it make sense if you include heaven and hell that we can’t see add it in our thought. Thought is not seen unless action plays it..😜🦋👑🦁⚖️

Exactly 💯. Thanks to them for uploading this video. Brother's Cliffe and Stuart always do good work in their efforts in the furtherance of The Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ you're reaching thousands to millions of people who are seeking after The Truth of God's Existence, Word and Character in our reality 🙏❤️👊. This has nothing and everything to do with the video but please listen if you want to otherwise leave it alone and ignore it. Hello my name is Justin and I'm a fellow Christian and Apologist but I'm also a college student. I'm not a closed minded Theist as I have nothing against Atheists or unbelievers as I speak to them often to understand their reasons for unbelief but we as Christians are convinced of God's Existence due to many real factors). I'm not trying to convert anyone or convince anyone to become Christians as that's The Holy Spirit's job to help people believe but only explain why I believe in Jesus Christ. There's actually evidence of God's Existence in Christianity. First of all there's proof that Jesus of Nazareth existed in history since the writings of Tacitus, Josephus Flavius, Pliny the younger and other historical documents prove that He was living two thousand years ago that even scholars both religious and Atheists agree with historically speaking but not that He's The Divine Son of God because obviously they don't. I'm going to give you historical and archeological evidence for God's Existence as The Scriptures have prophecies that predate the events recorded in them by several millennia including Matthew, Hosea and Zechariah which prophesy accurately of the people of Israel becoming a nation again after over 1900 years of being scattered around the nations since the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 A.D. spoken of by Christ in Matthew 23:29-24:3 and returning to their homeland after The Holocaust with Jerusalem as their capital in 1948 exactly as Jesus The Christ said. The prophets including Daniel spoke of the time where several world empires would arise and fall including the Babylonian kingdom, Medes and Persians, Roman Empire, and Saladin and the Muslims which went in consecutive order for the past few millennia. The people of Israel becoming a nation after The Holocaust in 1948 (ironically the melting point of gold as God compares Israel to gold that's tested in fire in Zechariah 13:8 and Jeremiah 16:15) exactly how Jesus The Christ said would happen since God us everything to come in The Scriptures and not just because people were working towards as Atheists claim which are impossible for any regular man to predict. Just before anyone says Christianity is a white man's religion made to oppress blacks during slavery you obviously aren't aware that the first Christians were Jews in The Middle East and that Christianity just like any religion can be used by evil and corrupt people to oppress others but you forget that the first Abolitionists/Civil Rights activists were Christians who sought to abolish slavery, racism, segregation, injustice and prejudice throughout American history. Jesus The Christ loves you enough not to give you what we all deserve which is God's Wrath by His Own Blood. Charles Darwin didn't originally come up with The Theory of Evolution over 200 years ago as it is mentioned in the writings of Ancient Greeks who believed in Demons that gave knowledge to philosophers. Evolution makes no sense when nothing has evolved after thousands of years of human history and supposedly the first creature came from primordial sludge several millions of years ago funny how they won't believe that God an Eternal Almighty Spirit Being created us from the Earth) which came from a supermassive expansion of matter at high temperature that inexplicably created everything in the known universe that supposedly came from nothing billions of years ago. How did the organs evolve before there were bones, skin, substance and how did any creatures see before eyes evolved? I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " Origin of The Species" I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " Origin of The Species" and I'm not convinced of but not macro or micro Evolution because there's no evidence of it nor clear observable examples of it where living creatures evolve into other kinds of species plus the fact that fossils don't show evidence of evolution and genetic entropy rules out evolution. The question begs how did two genders evolve from a common ancestor with a perfectly hospitable and sustainable environment with breathable oxygen and resources to survive on inexplicably? Atheists have the burden of proof to explain how everything came to be and why our existence is possible without the Existence of God from an godless perspective just as Christians have to provide evidence of God's Existence and the validity of His Word. Evolution requires life to already exist in order to take any effect in living organisms so it doesn't account for the existence of Life and reality. Also evolution is impossible because it goes against The Law of entropy and the second Law of thermodynamics because evolution makes things better whereas nothing continues to get better but decays and turns to absolute destruction in the end. Mark Ridley an Evolutionist said "No evolutionist whether gradualist or punctuationist uses the fossil record as evidence in favor of The Theory of Darwinian Evolution as opposed to special Creation". God's Existence is made perfectly known and observable in the universe as demonstrated in His Handiwork in the intelligently designed manner that Creation was made, human consciences and consciousness historical and archaeological evidence of God's Word being valid history, fulfillment of Bible Prophecies God in His Holiness and Righteousness could give us what we deserve in Hell for our since but He's merciful to give us free will to choose to accept or reject His gift of salvation by grace through faith in His Son Jesus. I don't mean this is any condescending manner but if you'd like to discuss The Scriptures with me or have me listen to your view on anything my instagram account is Savage Christian Kombatant.

he never answered the question. did life come from reason or non-reason?