Giving back the 100 year old BARN FIND Hit Miss Engine its SPARK!!! (Literally!)

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Cast Iron Curiosities

Cast Iron Curiosities

Жыл бұрын

Hey all!
This a a follow up to the "restoration" of the 100 year old Barn find engine ( • 100 year old BARN FIND... ) In this video I dig the original magneto off the shelf and try to get it working again! Check the video out to see if my hard work pays off and if this old technology still works!
Thank you

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@garymacdonald2549
@garymacdonald2549 9 ай бұрын
Great patina on that one! I think I could sit and watch it run for hours. As another commenter said, it's mesmerizing.
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities 8 ай бұрын
Thank you! It definitely sounds great!
@mikef.1000
@mikef.1000 4 ай бұрын
What a glorious old workhorse that thing is. Full kudos for resurrecting the machine. Your explanation of the process for recharging the magnets was gold -- thank you!
@BrokenWrenches
@BrokenWrenches Жыл бұрын
I find the old engines snd other old machines far more fascinating than the far more advanced machines of today. The brilliance of those old generation engineers and machinist is way more impressive to me than what is built today….back then they had a lot less tools to work with but they could create complex machines that could run forever with basic maintenance. The guys designing stuff today have computer programs to assist in every aspect of the design and building process and even then the end products can be way more problematic and hard to troubleshoot and repair. I say this as a career mechanic and a tinkerer of old stuff in my restoration business. Im hoping one day to buy an engine like this someday. Great job.
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities Жыл бұрын
You hit the nail on the head!
@geraldharkness8830
@geraldharkness8830 Жыл бұрын
great to to see the engine running on her own spark as it were!
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@HemiRoadrunner
@HemiRoadrunner Жыл бұрын
Awesome job man. If it wasn’t for guys like you rescuing these old gems and restoring them it’d all be scrapped by now. Thank you for being you and doing what you do. I live on the coast of Maine and there’s a guy that powers his skiff with an old make and break. It’s such a cool sound.
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@henkholdingastate
@henkholdingastate Жыл бұрын
And wath a nice machine
@duaneglover9283
@duaneglover9283 Жыл бұрын
Missed them growing up in Nebraska, be watching, thanks.
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Thomas-fo9zu
@Thomas-fo9zu Жыл бұрын
I can watch them run all day! Great video!
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities Жыл бұрын
You and me both!
@dscott1524
@dscott1524 Жыл бұрын
At 19:00, you might want to remove the armature before charging the magnets. The armature shunts the field away from the magnets and prevents the maximum magnet charge. Best it to remove the magnets entirely. Enjoyed the video. Cheers.
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities Жыл бұрын
Good advice!
@George-xm6di
@George-xm6di 2 ай бұрын
My G-pa left an old double-coil “magnetizer”. 20 yrs after it’s gone, I now know what it was. Don’t I wish I had saved it! God Bless You for sharing your knowledge.
@Mtlmshr
@Mtlmshr Жыл бұрын
“We need to be gentle with this” then proceeds to hit it with a hammer! My kind of work ethic!
@robertdavidjaekley7260
@robertdavidjaekley7260 Жыл бұрын
😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
@ruben_balea
@ruben_balea Жыл бұрын
I think that the biggest problem after charging the magnets was with your jumper cable, unless you have built it yourself or it is of some quality brand, they usually leave a lot to be desired, it would not be strange that half of the voltage that the magneto produced was lost due to the resistance of the cable.
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities Жыл бұрын
That very well may have been the case!
@steveshoemaker6347
@steveshoemaker6347 Жыл бұрын
When i was a child i remember seeing these old engines still working in some shops and oil fields...l am in my 80's i also just sub'ed to your amazing video's....Thanks...... Shoe🇺🇸
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I'd loved to have been able to see this stuff working on their original installations!
@roadmasterk6019
@roadmasterk6019 Жыл бұрын
That broken magneto idler gear is probably what parked this engine with so little wear... Just like old vehicles, sometimes they sit for decades because of really minor breakdowns:) What a sweet old engine!
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities Жыл бұрын
I would have to agree with you, that may be the very reason this old girl was put to pasture!
@leeklemetti1887
@leeklemetti1887 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the living history lesson (It runs!). Keep the old iron running.
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@phoenixsmith6026
@phoenixsmith6026 Жыл бұрын
do love the sound of a Hit and Miss
@rayscrafield2106
@rayscrafield2106 Жыл бұрын
Thanks again for educating this Old City Boy. Never was exposed to any of these old cast iron wonders. We do enjoy the annual tractor show down in Vista though. The rope making machine still fascinates me.
@davidhohatonga9906
@davidhohatonga9906 Жыл бұрын
thats is unbelivable to see old engine going again thats so cool
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@sammorgan31
@sammorgan31 Ай бұрын
Old farm equipment - made to sit outside 365 and work 364-1/2.
@martinthenetherlands4638
@martinthenetherlands4638 5 ай бұрын
Great video thank you
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities 5 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@duaneglover9283
@duaneglover9283 Жыл бұрын
New sub, looking forward, was 60 years old before I saw my first hit and miss, just a few years ago, DONT KNOW HOW l
@lllBAMlll
@lllBAMlll Жыл бұрын
I have a couple of those magnetos, now I know what they were for. Thanks 😁.
@lllBAMlll
@lllBAMlll Жыл бұрын
I don't need them just couldn't toss them out. I live near where they do the Stumptown Steam Threshers show in Ohio.
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities Жыл бұрын
I'm not far from you! I'd be interested in them!
@lllBAMlll
@lllBAMlll Жыл бұрын
@@Cast_Iron_Curiosities forgot to get back to you how do we msg. I'll put a video so you can see them also.
@lllBAMlll
@lllBAMlll Жыл бұрын
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@vernepavreal7296
@vernepavreal7296 Жыл бұрын
As a blind person I love the sound of these intermittent firing hopper called engines I have a 1906 Gilson hopper called open crankcase intermittent fire an engine it weighs about 70 KG so I think much smaller than yours I must drag it out it’s been in safe storage for about 10 years and see if she still sounds as good as this one Cheers
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@stephenhenion8304
@stephenhenion8304 Жыл бұрын
Part 1 was so much fun... Part 2 ties it all together! Really cool video!
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@syfieldsjr1576
@syfieldsjr1576 Ай бұрын
I could watch it run all day. Lol.
@colin_5839
@colin_5839 Жыл бұрын
Very Nice! Glad you got the mag repaired and going again!
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@user-sy4pc6wr8h
@user-sy4pc6wr8h 2 ай бұрын
love it.....i was told that you only need 2 tools to work on those......a short handle hammer and a crescent wrench......
@huck01955
@huck01955 Жыл бұрын
Very cool glade to see you able to fix the mag .
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@brianlaird5355
@brianlaird5355 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for the info. Will be very helpful with a upcoming project. Glad I found your vids.
@justinguthrie7193
@justinguthrie7193 Жыл бұрын
Mate really enjoyed watching both videos. They are mesmerizing, a great piece of history saved.
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@tailsdblack463
@tailsdblack463 Жыл бұрын
This engine sounds so nice! Very well done btw.
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@retrotechandmore8899
@retrotechandmore8899 Жыл бұрын
Good ol hit n miss
@steveblack1753
@steveblack1753 Жыл бұрын
Nice smooth runner sounds great ! Good job 🤙
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@stuartpalmer7572
@stuartpalmer7572 Жыл бұрын
My father acquired a simplex motor to get cousins boat in working order. I worked on it with dad including making an engine mount. We spent 2 weekends down on the lower murray river. Lovely brass propellor. Lovely motor with a huge fly wheel and magneto which had its own box to store in while boat not in use. Stuart Palmer Adelaide Sth Australia
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities Жыл бұрын
These old engine will last indefinitely I'm pretty sure!
@gparry42
@gparry42 Жыл бұрын
How enjoyable was that ? Wonderful thanks!
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@ivanpainter357
@ivanpainter357 Жыл бұрын
WELL YOU DID IT AGAIN I ENJOY YOUR VIDEOS KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK IVAN FROM ILLINOIS.
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@samsam66698
@samsam66698 Жыл бұрын
When you go to charge your magnets it's pretty easy take a string tie it to the magnet hold it above it will automatically line itself up to where it needs to be North to South. Just to let you know love your videos
@johnburgess9185
@johnburgess9185 Жыл бұрын
Another great video
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@samsam66698
@samsam66698 Жыл бұрын
One other thing you want to get a small brass hammer and tap on the coils very lightly as you're Remagnitizing. You wanna tap on it on the magnet that is very lightly going back-and-forth over the magnet
@1616katerst
@1616katerst Жыл бұрын
Very nice. Well done.
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@AFutureOf
@AFutureOf 4 ай бұрын
Love the restoes - do any of the machines actually get out to work on anything?
@billiehydrick6417
@billiehydrick6417 Жыл бұрын
I luv your videos
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@roberthocking9138
@roberthocking9138 Жыл бұрын
Yep you were right, a terrible explanation of how a magneto works. 😂 Keep up the good work 👍
@karlhaeske3421
@karlhaeske3421 2 ай бұрын
I'm amazed how quiet it runs
@thomasr.miller5553
@thomasr.miller5553 10 ай бұрын
NEODYMIUM MAGNETS . 😁It might be more reliable with a spark condenser.
@uTube486
@uTube486 2 ай бұрын
I've had one of those mags for 50 years not knowing what's for, till now.
@johnmayer158
@johnmayer158 Жыл бұрын
Gentle use of the technique of "impact correction". Well done.
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities Жыл бұрын
Love it!
@jaybuilt4187
@jaybuilt4187 Жыл бұрын
love this content sir
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@PaulHigginbothamSr
@PaulHigginbothamSr 4 ай бұрын
Yesterday I watched a hundred year old well in Ohio. This well looked like it would give off, (by watching the flare gas amount), plenty to run this engine for either the injection, or as a well pump.
@gerrybateman5308
@gerrybateman5308 5 ай бұрын
Just been watching your video excellent 👌. I have a fairbanks morse z 6 hp in very good condition no ware anywhere the only problem is it has no govenors at all is there anywhere in the US that you might no of that might supply these items its a 1920 model. Many thanks Gerry
@Makermook
@Makermook 4 ай бұрын
So basically the only major maintenance is you have to recharge the magnet every hundred years.
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities 4 ай бұрын
Honestly, if the Coil windings are good and the shafts do not have a lot of slop, yes, that's pretty much it lol
@deanlamberth0sbcglob
@deanlamberth0sbcglob Жыл бұрын
Good stuff
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@marclaforest3282
@marclaforest3282 Жыл бұрын
One day i found one of this magneto not knowing what it was ...hold the wire and spin the gear ..... first and last try ...
@macmistyfinley8661
@macmistyfinley8661 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video! Will it start on the mag now?
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities Жыл бұрын
Thank you! And yes it will start on the mag now.
@dsly99
@dsly99 Жыл бұрын
Great videos, thanks for doing these. So, what is the water box on the top of the engine for? Cooling of some sort?
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities Жыл бұрын
Thank you! And yes, the hopper just serves as water storage and cooling for the engine as it runs. As water gets hot and evaporates, water has to be added from time to time.
@mervmartin2112
@mervmartin2112 Жыл бұрын
Did you recheck the calibration on your turnbuckle hammer to see if it was set for keeper pins? 🤣
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣
@dadyo63
@dadyo63 Жыл бұрын
😎
@w124mercedes7
@w124mercedes7 Жыл бұрын
I have always wanted to paint old hit n miss engines and steam engines. I have restored paint on many tractors and and other equipment And painted allot of antique out board motors but never had the chance to do hit n miss. I thought about buying one to paint and use as yard art if nothing else. I restored classic cars for 30 years but always had a thing for old equipment.
@dansutton6642
@dansutton6642 Жыл бұрын
I really like this video, I have a question how did they connect to other side of the coil / rotor/ armature to ground, do they send then current through the shaft and the through the bearing? If this is true you could put a ball bearing ball at the end of the shaft and hold it in place with high tinseled copper strip an tie that to ground and that will give you a more constant current and not eat up your bronze bearing.
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities Жыл бұрын
The magneto is grounded through the case. I've not seen issue with the bronze bearing getting ate up, usually just wore out from lack of oil.
@DEATH7712
@DEATH7712 Ай бұрын
Has anyone ever said to tap magnet with a brass hammer while charging magnet to you? I watched another guy and he said to tap while charging? Asking what you think? In my head tapping while charging could help align the poles
@ironcladranchandforge7292
@ironcladranchandforge7292 Жыл бұрын
Its alive!! IT'S ALIVE!! Well it's Halloween, so I had to do my best Dr. Frankenstein, LOL.......
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@jhmasterson3087
@jhmasterson3087 4 ай бұрын
You say you don't recommend tapping the shaft but as a fellow mechanic it is the only way to shift it, there's hitting something & there's tapping just enough, that's the skill learn't over time, if you don't shift it, its a useless magneto, if you do its on its way to be a magneto again, if if breaks you repair it or replace it.
@jameshicks6753
@jameshicks6753 2 ай бұрын
Wow he didn’t even need his shade tree?
@theDaftman
@theDaftman Жыл бұрын
How long do you think it would run on a point of fuel. any chance you could test it?
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities Жыл бұрын
I believe I could do that! Sound like you gave me an idea for a new video!
@theDaftman
@theDaftman Жыл бұрын
​@@Cast_Iron_Curiosities i think there something to having a mass flywheel, i do have a 1928 Lister d engine running a 350 watt generator, never fully loaded it for any length of time, it keep my shed warm, its water cooled so i use a old car radiator in the main shed plumbed from its its own little shed outside main shed. i run it on heating oil and waste oil, after it gets hot of course, a hit and miss on the other hand is another matter. i think we need to revisit old engines like the one you just got running, thinks to be learned learnt.
@marku8175
@marku8175 Жыл бұрын
Bigger the hammer the more gentle you become,,,,
@jogden6632
@jogden6632 Жыл бұрын
So if you had a load on a hit and miss it will naturally want to fire more because the governor will tend to trip the spark if I get the concept right? Great series!
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities Жыл бұрын
That is correct, and thank you!
@donnienicholson6062
@donnienicholson6062 2 ай бұрын
Do the magnets matter if they're installed backwards???
@Zagroseckt
@Zagroseckt Ай бұрын
Thats not going to hold for long... Your suposed to heat past curea point and then hit it with the charge as it cools for a stronger longer field.
@TestECull
@TestECull Жыл бұрын
23:37 That's because things were built better back then. We hadn't yet become the disposable use-once-then-discard society we are today.
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities Жыл бұрын
That's definitely accurate!
@TestECull
@TestECull Жыл бұрын
@@Cast_Iron_Curiosities I may be forgetting something from the first video, but I'm pretty sure you drug this thing out of its grave and got it running as well today as it did 100 years ago with nothing but a little tinkering, sweat equity, and a thorough lube job. GLHF doin that on modern equivalents....
@CW-il4nd
@CW-il4nd 16 күн бұрын
Where did you get the Lincoln Tech Fluke meter?
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities 15 күн бұрын
Lincoln Tech. 07 graduate
@CW-il4nd
@CW-il4nd 15 күн бұрын
@@Cast_Iron_Curiosities Got mine at Pawn America in Indy. My brother managed the store. Guys would pawn their meter when they needed a little cash. I'm up in Wisconsin. I love your reaction when the mag kicks in.
@dba1665
@dba1665 Жыл бұрын
If it's fixed don't broke it
@jerryblankenship9908
@jerryblankenship9908 9 ай бұрын
How do you set the timing on a braker Monitor 1 1/4 HP.
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities 9 ай бұрын
Here is a very good article from @gasenginemagazine that explains the timing procedure excellently! www.gasenginemagazine.com/restoration/baker-monitor-zm0z15jjzhur/
@charlyfarly5173
@charlyfarly5173 Жыл бұрын
HEY Dude - please don't work around rotating flywheels with an open/undone shirt - asking for trouble. My friend was killed this way working on a Ruston Hornsby engine.
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities Жыл бұрын
Good piece of advice! it's easy to not thing of something like that and have terrible results.
@Zagroseckt
@Zagroseckt Ай бұрын
Ok heres what i want to know.. What hairbraned engenear or machinest desided to mount the mag perpendicular to the gear train You know that gear had to be the most anoying thing to make and maintain on this and theres plenty of ways to mount that thing and keep it in line with the geartrain. Keep the whole engen in mind before you reply saying it wouldnt fit that way becos it's to long.
@GUE5TPA55
@GUE5TPA55 Жыл бұрын
no sound?
@MrLeighton782
@MrLeighton782 Жыл бұрын
Magnetos produce High Voltage and low amperage, plus you had your multimeter set to AC not DC
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities Жыл бұрын
There are both low voltage (low tension) and high voltage (high tension) magnetos. This particular one is a low tension rotary magneto. It should only be producing around 3 to 6v AC. To measure this correctly I really should be using a analog meter. The Fluke meter I'm using takes the average and the varying RPM of the mag makes it difficult for the meter to read it.
@MrLeighton782
@MrLeighton782 Жыл бұрын
@@Cast_Iron_Curiosities Ok point taken we used a Magneto and Spark plug to light the oxy acetylene torch in the workshop where I did my Apprenticeship if you touched the plug with the nozzle you certainly found out, that was a high tension Mag
@wileycoyotesr8623
@wileycoyotesr8623 Жыл бұрын
Why aren't you honest with the viewers and tell them outright that when something is stuck to go ahead and hit it was a hammer which you clearly did? Wouldn't it be better to say something like, "ideally one wouldn't want to smack the crap out of this but sometimes it just has to be done."
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities Жыл бұрын
I feel that I am being honest. I am confident in my ability to not break what I'm working on but at the same time I'm also willing to take the risk of breaking it to free up something quicker with a more risky process. It's not the preferred method with something like this, as these magnetos have pot metal housing and break very easily. I don't want to give the illusion that they are indescribable and you can whale away at them with a hammer.
@gowdsake7103
@gowdsake7103 Жыл бұрын
I wonder why you didnt clean the mag gear teeth
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities
@Cast_Iron_Curiosities Жыл бұрын
They'll clean them selves when running. And.... I forgot to....
@svernwarunos546
@svernwarunos546 4 ай бұрын
Can you talk with a southern Vietnamese lady accent?, it would really help me out a lot. Thank you.
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