for luigi's drawback i think it's his slipperyness, you could try to find some kind of friction value and make it lower

When a level editor comes out, the captain toad campain idea could be very intersting and feel like a completely different gamemode ! (I'd love to see that exist)

For Daisy's unique "cannon phisics" it would be the double jump she has in Mario Run only issue is I don't exactly think that'd be easy to code

Luigis drawback in 3D world is that he has "slippery shoes" he slides way more and is harder to turn around/control than the other characters

Hey, thanks for using my mod! It means a lot to me! For Luigi's flutter jump animation, you can potentially edit "JumpFall" from Mario, then slap it into Luigi's animations, so it makes him flutter as he falls

If you want my ideas for physics/abilities for the other playable characters...: Daisy - Should have the double jump from Mario Run, and maybe even be able to punch her way through bricks (if that can be done.) Nabbit - Simply attracting coins to him. (Like the Coin Magnet badge but without the badge) Not sure for Toadette, but maybe she'd be the same as the Toads. Edit: Alrighty. Nabbit's second feature would be walking right past enemies without taking knockback, and Toadette's would be bouncing back up from pits, as well as faster swimming. Thanks for the help, guys!

0:39 This is absolutely evidence that the characters were once planned to have physics and controls unique from one another. From a program design standpoint, it makes no sense to do it this way if one was not expecting each character to need unique values or at the least considering it later in development (as these would have been core systems implemented very early on).

Theoretically, Daisy has a double jump as seen in super Mario run

honestly i hope for the future mario wonder sequels they let u pick two badges (like the mario and luigi games) so you can pair the characters trait with a actual badge

The Captain Toad campaign idea sounds awesome, I hope you get the chance to actually make it someday!

A Captain Toad campaign would be wonderful

That's totally great! For Luigi I think he generally moves a little bit more slippery/uncontrolable

I wouldn't be surprised if unique character physics were removed in favour of the badge system with Luigi's jump turning into the floating jump, Peach's glide becoming the parachute glide, Toad (possibly) becoming the jet run badge and Daisy (possibly) becoming the mid-air spin. With Toadette, I think maybe make her an inbetween of Mario and Toad, making her jump a bit higher than Toad but less than Mario and faster than Mario but slower than Toad. I think it'd also be interesting to give her a super weak glide as a nod to Peachette, but I don't know how that could be implemented.

This is great. Thank you for pioneering the modding scene!

honestly, with all the modifications this game seems to allow, I'm genuinely hipe for all potential mods. Having a Captain Toad Wonder adventure seems really also fun, but yeah the potential of mods is... wonderful The game was really fun, but there was a lot of content that wasn't fully exploited, and I hope that we will get more challenging mods with a good use of all the news mechanisms

It's really satisfying watching your channel get the recognition it deserves for showcasing the creatitvity of the community :) a new release was really all it needed huh?

The Captain toad transition seamless makes me think he was initially planned to have his own stages, but cut them out

I don't know how complicated this is, but I'd love for you to add the collision back from the original NSMB games. If not, it'd still be cool to know how something like that could theoretically done.

Luigi's drawback in 3d world is that is footing is a lot slipperier then the other characters, so he's harder to control. Peach's float is balanced by being slower, and Toad as fastest BUT while he jumped as high as Mario, his hangtime was much much shorter

Mario Wonder modding is continuously blowing my mind. When level modding becomes easier, I definitely would love to take a crack at it, and being able to so easily manipulate character physics is going to be extremely fun to mess around with. My parachute hat goes off to all the current modders of the game!

Daisy should have a double jump like in Super Mario Run, Toadette could maybe fall faster or jump faster, and Luigi should have slippery physics, that was his drawback in 3D world and lost levels for having a higher jump. Also Peach runs a bit slower because of her floaty jump physics.

it seems that all the old character abilities have just been made it to badges, lugi’s high jump=high jump badge. Peaches floating=parachute cap badge. Toads dat pace run=fast dash badge

I think it would be more accurate to give each character their physics from Super Mario Run, since that game was kinda not really part of the NSMB series. So Luigi has his higher jump and scuttle, Peach can glide very similarly to the parachute cap which makes it a perfect fit IMO, Toad runs faster but jumps lower, Toadette is like Toad but runs slightly slower, and Daisy has a double jump. So to match Mario Run, you'd just have to give Luigi his scuttle (the thing he does with his legs to make him fall slower) and maybe give him his slipperyness from NSLU, give Toadette the same physics as Toad but slightly slower (so maybe multiplying by 1.05 instead of 1.1?) and maybe modify the Dolphin Kick to make her swimming akin to NSMBUD, and for Daisy maybe change the parameters of the Boosting Spin Jump to make it more akin to a double jump. Anyways, great video!

Please upload more often, really enjoying the content. I have no experience in modding but watching it is still fun. :D

i love how there is so much potential for messing around with this and its just player physics

This is quickly becoming one of my favorite channels on YT

Fun fact: daisy can double jump in mario run. Also another fun fact: if you want to give toadette an ability for her physics just give her both the dolphin kick, faster swimming & the anti bounce badge. For yoshis just make them take one hit before they die.

You just came up with the best idea for the first full scale mod lol. Captain Toad Wonder.

Neat you even have the ability to change the physics, I figured they'd all just pull from a single file for the parameters besides Nabbit and Yoshi.

Just so you know, Luigi's main drawback is that he has lower traction, making him slipperier

Daisy had a double jump in mario run Toadette had uh...she made the ref toad? She was the most popular character in toad rally. Maybe there could be something like bonus items given or enemies stopping attacking and having heart eyes. Idk

Very interesting, must get around to wonder modding myself some day

I love your channel! It brings the fun of nintendo modding to the masses :)

If i remember correctly, all Toads can run faster and jump lower. Daisy can do a Double Jump.

Thanks for the shoutout! It's pretty cool to see how much we can potentially do with this game.

im unbelievably hyped for the future of this game

Daisy should have her double jump from Mario run and run slightly faster not as fast as the Toads but a bit faster to reference her in the sports games. I wish the OG Toad was in this game rather than the coloured ones or at least along with the coloured ones. I would've loved to play as him

I see that things like fireball, slope, and especially swimming are in there

I love how the floaty jump animation is referred to in files as "luigi". Like, it was obvious already, it's just nice to see. Is "Strength" a Parameter? Daisy seems like she would be stronger than the other characters since she's so sporty and stuff. I don't SEE it in the list, though... I dunno, make her slower but jump twice as hard or something

I’d love to see an entire captain toad game!! You totally should do it

super mario on the ps4 *wahoo*

Daisys double jump toadette slipery always

This is all I ever wanted. Unique physics for the main roster would make the game much more interesting.

Nice ! I subscribed

i honestly think that every character should have aditional badge, like mario would have automatically timed high jump, luigi would have floating high jump etc and you could wear one aditional badge

Maybe Toadette could have a special spin jump that can do stuff with her pigtails? Maybe her pigtails reach out farther than other characters to activate or break blocks/enemies!

Amazing !

really nice video, the captain toad part would be really fun if modded

U earned a sub bro

Just so everybody knows they're two different blue toads the one that can run fast and the one that copies Mario and Luigi's moveset certain people in the corner of the internet call them buckenberry.

A Captain Toad campaign would be so much fun to try!

This makes me so glad I have the game on an emulator I wanna try giving a super high max speed so the character just keeps getting faster and faster

Neat idea! I thought about this very idea just a few days ago, when I saw how much in this game is customizable As for Peach, as far as I know you can edit the mid-air twirl to make a character stay longer in "no gravity" mode, which would make it similar to Peach's floating ability

That's really cool

Daisy could obviously have her Double Jump, but i guess the Boosting Spin Jump Badge already does that But imagine having 3 jumps?!? For Toadette... you probably have the Super Mushroom replaced with the Crown to turn her into Peachette(?) And then she can have her Glide, Double Jump, and I guess a Safety Jump back.

I NEED a captain toad mod immediately in mario wonder tbh

captain toad idea is so fuckin sick you gotta do it

Great video. As a casual speedrun enjoyer though, I'm afraid in like 2 years there's gonna be a Karl Jobst video of how someone edited the params ever so slightly to go undetected in taking the WR or something lmao.

Someone should try to make multiplayer collision a thing, picking up is a plus if possible

it would be kind of funny if when you spin/spin jump as toadette, you can damage enemies becuase she has pigtails

once we figure out how to give character inherent abilities/badges it'll be so good. we already got animations for shit like peaches floating

My suggestions: Mario: All around Luigi: Higher jump but more slippery. Peach: Floaty jump but slower Daisy: Won’t struggle with sand or ice, but drops faster when falling. Toads: Faster, lower jump. Toadette: Higher spin jump, needs timing to do wall jumps Yoshis: Same as base game Nabbit: One up mushrooms snatched at the end = 5UPs

this channel is shaping up to be a favorite of mine!

You can actually find character physics for Toadette and Daisy by looking the Super Mario RUN mobile app. I’m not sure how many people still remember it, but in that game, Daisy can double jump by using her dress to create more lift while in the air. Toadette had this mechanic where she could make other Toads attracted to her which would give you more points. I’m not sure how that would apply to this game, but I guess you could stick with the speed theme of road and make her faster while also making her jump higher. It could be like a mix of toad’s speed and Luigi’s jump, but maybe you can dial both down by half so it’s still balanced.

Cool!

Toadette already has a double jump ability in Super Mario Run, would be cool to see that in Wonder

An idea I have for Daisy is combine Luigi and Peach's physics; the slipperiness and jump height of Luigi, and the floatiness of Peach

I glad in see the Captain Toad playable ❤

Daisy should be more physically strong. Like in pushing and pulling. You know, because she's mostly from the sports titles, so she's fit.

it is INCREDIBLE how modular this game is

Toadettes hair twirls around like helicopter rotors during her spin jump animation. You could maybe increase her spin jump height and maybe possibly decrease her falling speed?

I was really disappointed that they didn’t keep the specific character skills they had in 3D World, I loved being able to jump higher with Luigi and hover with Peach, so this is awesome

Was a little disappointed that character traits didn't return

I really thought this would be in the game for everyone. But i guess the badges are there so yeah

In Mario Run, Daisy can double jump In NSMBU Deluxe Toadettes whole gimmick was a power up... so idk how u could adapt that

Toadette could have a higher spin jump and/or a floatier twirl (not like the mid-air spin jump badge, but like the regular twirl stops your vertical momentum more) I assume it's possible since there are so many values that can be changed.

You should definitely make "Captain Toad's Wonderful Adventure"

Daisy already has unique physics in Super Mario Run.

3:30 toadette also adds 100 extra timer seconds and I think she's as fast as toad, daisy has a double jump from super mario run

Luigi’s drawback is he has mini ice physics everywhere on the ground (as in he slides a bit more)

When playing Super Mario Wonder, I was a little dissapointed that all the characters play the same, so this is a huge game changer

Very fun to mess around - makes me wonder why Nintendo didn't give them different physics. I guess is to keep consistency with 2d levels.

Luigi: Higher jump height with lower fall speed, with lower friction Peach: Temporary mid-air floating with lower speed The Toads: Higher speed with lower jump height Daisy: Mario Run gave her a double jump, which is the only real platform schtick she has, so giving her that alongside lower speed than Peach to compensate would be my preferred way to differentiate her. Toadette: Honestly, she doesn't really have a schtick. Her unique traits in NSMBUDeluxe belonged to the Peachette form, and she otherwise handles like your typical character. We could cop out and say she handles like the Toads since she's a Toad herself. Otherwise, we're going to have to improvise. Maybe allow her to temporarily cling to walls when she jumps towards them, rather than immediately sliding down? Either lower jump height, speed, or friction to compensate for this (if not as drastic as the other characters with those weaknesses). Or maybe it's just better that we keep her controlling just like Mario. Not everyone needs to handle completely different from one another after all. Yoshis and Nabbit are fine as they are. You could remove collision detection from Nabbit and have him just go past any enemy and obstacle in the game to emulate how he was in NSLU/NSMBUDeluxe, but it's not a dealbreaker.

In Super Mario Run, once you unlock Daisy, she has a double jump. So you could give her one here too.

Daisy also has a double jump in Mario run, I bet that would be a challenge to incorporate

There's actually a robust physics engine under the game engine that is very rarely utilized; There are 2 game objects which makes use of this enhanced physics engine: rotating triangular 'platforms' which has angled knockback, and the sliding thwomp, which can knock and bounce off each other in the single section of the map where you can make their platforms rotate at variable angles to angle two of those sliding thwomps towards each other.

SwitchToolbox seems mighty^^

I mean daisy could double jump in super mario run, sooo I guess thats her canonical physics change

This is the first time i see a hacking channel actually go through the process instead of just saying "i tweaked some stuff and boom, check out Luigi's jump". Immediately subbed

Luigi should have a wiggling legs animation when in his jumping and falling phases.

daisy at this point has been shown in mario run to have a double jump that might be neat, and toadette could literally have anything maybe higher jumping velocity or she falls faster

If every mario wonder character had unique physics: Mario: Nothing. Luigi: Taller jump but more slippery Toads: Faster run but lower jump. Toadette: Turns around quicker but lower jump. Peach: Falls slower but moves slower. Daisy: Higher jump but worse midair movement. Nabbit and Yoshi already have unique traits so they do not need anything extra. These would be able to be toggled. I considered giving toadette her super crown and better swimming as a refrence but they don't really have much use in wonder. Plus, theres already badges which do the exact same thing.

Ofc Luigi doesnt have a drawback hes perfect!

Honestly for daisy,something that came up in my head was being able to break blocks even without a powerup,so mini daisy would still be able to break blocks.Also making her shoving strength/speed a tad bit Stronger

Daisy should have a double jump like she did in Mario run but idk if that’s possible right now

Daisy and Toadette actually have their own mechanics. In Mario run daisy had a double jump and in new super Mario bros U deluxe Toadette could swim like she had a penguin suit.

Modding scene bouta go crazy (before nintendo takes it down)

I saw absolutely nobody mention Yoshi, so here goes. Yoshi has a high af run speed, and a NOTORIOUSLY fast air speed. He's has the fastest air speed in Smash Bros, and he's the same in his original games, as well as in random appearances, like Odyssey. I remember being able to airdrift over a huge staircase in Yoshi's Island DS without having to touch the ground once. Also also, in the original Yoshi's Island games, you can technically flutter jump infinitely if you had decent timing. If you made it so Yoshi could perform flutter jumps infinitely, that would be cool. Yoshi kinda has the wildest physics of any Mario character, it always pains me when Nintendo doesn't use it consistently. He's kind of like Sonic but in the air.

I think yellow toad could have a double jump and toadette could have a safety jump allready equipped

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