100%. It's not that this talk was devoid of platitudes, but focusing more on the technical aspects made for much more engaging discussions.

This. I feel the same way. Loved this discussion.

Rian is so passionate about the craft that I will always watch him talk with anyone because he will always steer the conversation to that direction.

Also I think the fact these two have almost the same amount of experience in the industry (as they mentioned at the beginning) helps.

Yes

I hope one day The Last Jedi gets the Empire Strikes Back treatment...we'll see in 20 years time I guess.

@@hplalakrs2001 You're so delusional it's actually quite alarming so I can't even laugh.

@@hplalakrs2001It’s legit my favorite Star Wars movie.

Mee too @@sightninja

TLJ was amazing imo. I believe TFA will be appreciated within time because of nostalgia. TLJ will find its way to prove that it was a brave continuation of the story that started in TFA... And TROS is going to be doomed. Very few people will like that one, and it will be fair. Rian Johnson is a really good storyteller. Time will give him the reason.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahha

I understood that reference.

LOL

Why? Not funny, not clever, a painful listen.

@@agmor1bro you are replying to like every positive comment about rian johnson, obsessed much?

@@extremelyonline Rian Johnson is overrated, he only has 2 decent films under his belt. Joseph Kosinski on the other hand is getting better.

Probably just some Star Wars nerd still pissing themselves over TLJ

@@RobertRhoades2 Except I was criticising Looper in 2012 and never understood the sycophantic reviews of his earlier films.

I always hear praise on Rian and i loved looper but maybe if I watch knives then ill really understand why hes considered so good. Last jedi will always just be confusion lol

Glad you enjoyed it!

He exudes arrogance, entitlement and smugness.

@@agmor1 rent free

@@strikerbowls791 He stank up my KZfaq recommendations, so not exactly.

Yeah I hate his Star Wars film but I really find him interesting as a creator. I love his attitude, just not his work lol Also wow this dude replying is all over the thread lmaoooo. Rent free baby

He’s too full of himself. Kind of like James Cameron, but significantly less talented.

You should really watch Only the Brave. It's the movie Kosinski did with Teller and Connoly. It's an amazing movie and really delves deep into the emotional aspect of the story.

@@Largentina. Kosinski was made for Star Wars

If I was him, I wouldn't go anywhere near Star Wars due to the divided fan base.

He basically already has made his Star Wars films but I found it pointedly interesting he didn't reference SW when name-dropping the films that touched him as a kid.

Give him Rogue Squadron. Why is the Top Gun director not directing Star Wars Rogue Squadron, aka Star Wars Top Gun.

@@moviereedviews All franchise fan bases are divided. The bigger the franchise the bigger the divide. If a director can;t handle fan backlash he shouldn't be making movies. Rian still loves Star Wars. He dealt with it like a champ. I also love TLJ. If you watched SW, ESB, and ROTJ, TLJ arc makes perfect sense for Luke. Not to mention Luke did the most badass Jedi thing ever.

He will get to do whatever he wants now

Spielberg's The War of the Worlds is up there with Oblivion. Both really good movies.

I read this comment the same time they said "the notion of"

​@@leob2302same wtf

Adding to our Vision Board.

Tv director's have to follow the script and they don't get a lot of control over the production . Ozymandias is great because of Vince Gilligan and the whole breaking bad team. Johnson started off well but every movie he's done after looper has been shit. Yes knives out and glass onion are horrible, I don't care that everyone thinks he's the new Agatha Christie

Hey look, you got an absurd reply already!

@@alexmott507 Yes god forbid someone have a different opinion

I don’t even hate Rian johnson like so many other people but I still think Kosinski is far more underrated. There are a TON of sycophantic critics and internet denizens all over the place who praise Johnson to the skies (Say what you will about the Last Jedi but it was certainly not one of the best Star Wars films let alone one of the best films of the year). Meanwhile Kosinski has been making these incredible films (Tron, Oblivion) that are pushing the envelope of filmmaking and until Maverick he generally got critically lashed.

Good! Hope he sticks to TV shows and/or TV streaming movies. He is sufficient for that, I guess.

As a firefighter, I couldn't agree more.

For all of Johnson's excess plotting, the progress of the main story runs along familiar lines. While who-does-what-to-who-and-why is baffling to begin with (like a magician moving onto a further allusions in order to obfuscate the obviousness of their first trick), I just don't think that the elements that lead up to the ending are subtly or effectively dealt to us. In particular, the second act goes on and on.

YES!

Rian: *laughs in TLJ*

You misunderstand talent It is not universal, some filmmakers are good working under certain conditions. TLJ sucked not because lack of talent, it wasn't a good fit. Plus other reason like lack of passion and even some spite.

@@klaussone To think that Rian Johnson, who is probably the biggest Star Wars fan in the world, moved to live closer to the Skywalker ranch while making TLJ and was in constant content with the Star Wars story group, does not care for Star Wars or is has spite, is insane. You can dislike all the choices that he made in TLJ but he did it because he thought that it would make fun for a good Star Wars movie.

@@bebo2629 You might also misunderstand what being a fan means. Its not an universal concept, and para social relationships tend to be complicated. Spite in this context might not even be towards anyone else he might consider to not be "true fans". Im guessing your camp of expertise is not psychology. Edit: to elaborate. If we consider someone with a particular cinema oriented background, is possible to speculate this person finding and unique and personal meaning of the work. And thus see every other interpretation as lesser or uneducated. This coupled with an obsession, and then both the "biggest fan" and the "spite" become not only expected, but almost inevitable.

​@@klaussone lmao

bruh what was that laugh💀

I agree

Me too

I mean, I hated TLJ as much as the next guy, but that was his writing. He’s a fantastic director! 💪

@@ricksterdrummer2170 I agree, hes showed both talent and knowledge. One can only speculate why it wasn't a good match. Some things are just personal. Or maybe just studio shenanigans.

@@klaussone its just a good film

It's very visual impressive and narratively uncreative.

@@anenemystand5582 get lost

@scottbarkley496 I mean am I wrong though. I like the movie but tell me one thing it does narratively that isn't a wellworn trope.

I'm gonna be honest... kosinski's stories are uninteresting and unchallenging. Top Gun Mavericks story is just a collection of tropes. There is nothing half way compelling about it

The last jedi was the best star wars film since empire

@@anenemystand5582 the sequel trilogy was ruined by Kathleen Kennedy, JJ Abrams, Rian Johnson, and Disney executives!! The movies became like the MCU!! The original and prequel trilogy stand the test of time!!

@dhruvurs9890 the prequel trilogy is awful. They've got interesting ideas. But the films are bloated, often weirdly opaque, the acting is wooden (George Lucas isn't a great writer of dialogue), and the cgi really is over used. They aren't good movies. The sequel trilogy was ruined by poor planning, corporate meddling and a lack of clear vision. Disney was purely reactive. Just doing things based off fan response which is not a good way to write a cohesive story.

He was originally going to call it Top Gun Legacy.

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@@charleswashington6628 🤓

I can't agree. "Looper" is the poor man's "Terminator" and the poorer man's "La Jetée". The movie absolutely betrays its tantalizing premise and science fiction possibilities to become a very routine domestic thriller. Shane Carruth might be a piece of shit, but he was totally right when he chewed out Johnson's script. "Looper" was just a mechanically uninvolving chase film with seriously deficient plotting. Where's the invention of genre? Where's the cleverness of structure? Where's the witty dialogue? As for "Knives Out", it was basically Basil Dearden's "Woman of Straw" with the addition of 5000 annoying supporting characters, a non-chronological structure, the most asinine social commentary possible and "ironic" racism. Why didn't anyone mention it? Because, to be fair, no one has seen "Woman of Straw" in 50 years and Johnson's careful to play down his major influences. "The Last Jedi" steals wholesale from "Battlestar Galactica" and critics simply ignored the obvious lift because Johnson said SUBVERTING EXPECTATIONS five million times.

Don't let things blow out of proportion. Always keep a cool head, and a critical thinking. This ins an advice for life, not just cinema.

@@karstenkarsten4561 Looper was terrible ten years ago, so ...