Regardless of which insert you use, do yourself a favor and get an accordion binder to store all the map tiles.

RIP headphone users. That music is LOUD lol Here's a tip for 2 handed solo players using BT insert - get rid of 2 unused character trays and place the minis box in its place. Then you have enough space to fit ALL the character tuckboxes where they belong, instead of folded up in the map tiles tray. And yeah, the monster tuckboxes for sleeved players is simply awful and a big disappointment. It's the primary reason to choose another insert over BT. I HATE that thing lol

Downvoted for super quiet voice followed by defeaning music. Why did you think that was ok?!?

Headphones were a bad choice here... Watch the volume choices.

Also, to get the minis in, just pull 2 more of the base characters out of their tuck boxes and store them in the character trays. You don’t HAVE to only use the trays for the characters you’re using. They’re for storage in the box more than they are for organization during game play. You need to take the cards and character boards put to play, anyway... when you use all four, everything fits perfectly.

I definitely missed the XP tracker spots in the BT insert. My bad. Also, some really good options brought up for how to store your game when only playing with 2. My favorite one is removing 2 character trays and placing the minis box where those would go. Great option. Thank you everyone for the comments and thank you for watching!

If you'd like, you don't have to use the wooden character trays in the BT insert. You can store the characters in their original boxes like the Daedalus insert, and just remove the wooden trays so you have room for all 17 of them plus miniature box. Regarding the dials, they are definitely designed to fit inside the character trays nicely. Regarding the obstacle tiles, you can actually push down from the top to make them pop up and get them out. This eliminates the need to pick them up and push from the bottom.

So happy that you mention the problems that can come with sleeving your cards. We have played through 5 scenarios, so not that far in. But we need orgaizers. Takes way to long to get ready to play and set up. We have also found out sleeve is needed on the cards we shuffle and use a lot. We store our maps in a abc orginazied folder, so they wouldn't be needed in the gloomhaven box it self. To find them fast and easy, without looking through them all 🙈

Great comparison on anyone looking to buy a Gloomhaven organizer. Shopping around for an big organizer that is potentially costing half of what you paid for the game is great. It lets you see it assembled and you can see it in action vs seeing a bunch of pictures on sites. Great video and hope to see more of these! You gained a subscriber!

I would also have liked to see what setup looked like with each organizer and compare setup times. Great job, I wish someone would have done this 6 months ago! FYI- The XP disks fit perfectly into each of the character trays. Character boards sit on top of the disks- like a glove. Suggestion 1: take out 2 additional characters you aren’t playing with and store them in the character trays- problem solved! Suggestion 2: Find all the terrain tiles you will need for each scenario, before you start playing them you can set them to the side until you are ready to use them.

"it's always the last tile that I look at". Well... once you've found what you're looking for - why WOULD you keep looking? Of COURSE it's going to be the last one, silly billy :) Great comparison btw, good work! Gives us lots to consider when shopping around for inserts, thank you!

Def the best comparison of these 2 around so good work there. Definitely suggest working on volume levels as the core video is super quiet but the music is blasting :)

I put my board pieces in an accordion file holder, and then I put the 3 extra boxes in the board tray box for Broken Token.

I loved the Daedalus insert so much more but as has been stated it is out of business.

Also, love your choice of board games. We have a lot of the same ones.

I have the Broken Token insert: The Dials for Health and experience go into the character trays. To fix the Miniatures boxes issue just take an extra starting character out of its tuck box and put it in a character tray (unused)(you only need three characters out for it to fit). The real problem I can see for both inserts but especially for the Daedalus Insert is when the expansion comes out. I feel like I maybe able to fit a good portion of the expansion material in with the current Broken token insert not the Daedalus. The enemy tuck boxes in the broken token insert are not that bad if you don't sleeve the attack modifier cards.

Work on that sound balance man. Listen to it all the way through before you publish.

Bought Glooomhaven last week. OMG it is complicated just unboxing!! Either of these would have been wonderful as first-party inclusions! I'd prefer the Daedalus design with the BT colors: dark can be hard to read sometimes.

I found that with the BT insert if you are playing a two player game you can take one of the player trays out and fit two of the class boxes in it's place on top or bottom. This allows you to still put the mini tray in the box.

Fair review of each insert. Well done!

Hey Sam, if Deadelus didn't stain the insert, would it still be your choice over the Broken Token insert?

I personally use the broken token and I love it. I manage to fit everything in the box just fine

Wish my Daedalus inserts had more contrast to the Label Etchings like yours. Mine are very hard to read. After building several other Broken Token inserts I would rather build their inserts as the fit is much tighter and easier to glue-up.

Very well done comparison video, I'm waiting for my copy of Gloomhaven and thinking an insert might be a necessity. This was good information, especially since I wasn't aware Daedalus had an insert available.

I always wanted tinnitus, thanks mate

you can fit all the charecter boxes in the charecter box display from gloomhaven i got the broken token insert

Another thing that any serious gloomhaven players have to take into consideration is apps available for your phone/tablets that alleviated a lot of the issues mentioned. Monster AI, GH hit point tracker *(which includes a "room" number that your players can all link to see hit points of monsters. My games are all conducted without the need of the Monster AI cards, the monster attack decks, nor the monster cards to track hit points or conditions. Makes playing AND more importantly set up of gloomhaven so much more interesting. SO much so, that apps really negate a lot of the seeming benefits of having these, lets face it, fairly expensive storing solutions.

This is becoming a sport discipline in itself!

My Ears! jokes aside, Great Video!

I very much understand the balking at the cost. But I really enjoyed your work here. I'm still torn between the two organizers. Broken Token put out a KZfaq video that showed how they store the 2nd edition that mitigates some of your concerns, but I really really like the look of Daedalus' boxes. I've subscribed so if you do more, I'll check it out.

Thanks for the information. Broken Token is everywhere. I do most of my shopping via local store first... support local gaming economy (nope no inserts) ebay... and amazon. I would not have discovered Daedalus if not for this video. Thanks@

I went with MeepleRealty for the Gloomhaven insert. Pretty impressive construction.

I'd selected a WarBox set, and I'm in love of it.

I got the BK insert. Here are some modifications I made to it : - I’m not using those character trays at all. I don’t really like them anyways. Instead, I build a custom foam core tray (white so it blends well with the tuck boxes and trays) which is smaller than the four character trays (stacked). This foam core section fits next to all character tuck boxes and the minis tray. It contains the dials, the biggest monster standee, the party sheets, a few cards. I could fit more in that foam core insert as there’s lots of room left. This also avoids having to flatten the character boxes that would either be removed from the box or added to the map tiles tray. - I have room left to slide the element track between the minis tray and the box so it doesn’t end up in the map tile tray, causing extra bulge in that tray if I were to put it there. - I labelled my component (ex: overlay tiles) trays so I dont’t have to look for the double sided pieces. - I taped the bottom of all character tuck boxes and all monster tuck boxes to avoid cards or small tokens from sliding out. FYI : the envelopes and town record go inside the big cards tray. There is a secret compartment for those under the tray. Note : I find that the BK insert simply has less trays overall to take out of the box. You don’t even have to take every tray out of the box to gather what you need for a scenario.

To bad Daedalus went out of business. I wanted their insert for GH. I’m glad I was able to get their mage knight inserts.

Broken Token. Daedalus was storing cards horizontally in an open container. Thats just a disaster waiting to happen.

i like daedalus insert, but it gives me a feel of throughing in the spare parts, especially the tiles and the rules/campaign book

Yeah music is insane loud and voice is barely audible. Good content bruh. I enjoyed all but the sound issues :-)

Gaming Trunk has the best IMO. The way everything is stored makes more sense.

Should compare with Meeple Realty as well I'm curious to see how it stacks up.

Super helpful! I just order my copy of gloomhaven and I know what I'm going to order next

Looks like they are out of bizzy

Fitting the map tiles in at the end with Daedelus is a freaking nightmare! The entire thing is enough of a puzzle to begin with, but having to put the map tiles in just the right order is really annoying. Idk maybe they should include a 1 pg pdf to print with directions on that as a workaround (the layout PDF is 23 pages). Btw I appreciate the review overall; I also tried both, though I still wonder if any of the other organizers are better. Aside I wonder how much space you'd need for 3d printed versions instead of cardboard...

have you looked at any other gloomhaven organizers since this video?

One thing you didn't compare, that is specifically important to me for GH - how well does each insert survive the box being laid on its side? GH fits some board game bags, but none of them while the right way up, so this game is going to end up stored sideways!

would a workaround for the broken token is to make two "dummy" player sets with two of the other starting boxes? fold the boxes flat and organize the cards/tokens but don't use it?

When putting the cards and standees back into the tuck boxes just do exactly what is in the "how it fits" video: put the box on the table, put the cards on the flap to the box, arrange the standees on the cards, then just slide it all in together. It works perfectly! I put them all in without too much of an issue when assembling it but couldn't believe the boss box was possible, until I saw this in the "how it fits" video and I haven't had an issue since. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g9ugos2I3LjIlGw.html

I put the health and HP thing in the character wooden box.. fits nice :)

It would be really nice if you included links in the description.

This was really useful. I just finished putting together the broken token version, and I totally agree about the character tuck boxes. So annoying for setup and tear-down. Especially if you sleeve your cards, which you should.

When you said you sleave cards, do you mean that you sleeve all cards, or just the essentials? I’m just wondering how the sleeving would work if you only sleeve 200- 300 of the cards as opposed to all of them?

How hard is it to pull 2 other characters out though and put them in a tray? Super special solution

very helpful, really think this would be a good segment for Dicetower or something. especially if companies could send you inserts(problem being needing two copies of same game as well. now if i only could see the meeple reality compared as well.

How did you get the Deadalus Productions kit? It said November 2018 on their Kickstarter

I got the Meeple Realty organizer, and I wish I had bought Daedalus instead. Meeple Realty has wasted space in some of its containers, and doesn’t have any storage solution for some components. They’re just loose. Don’t recommend.

I think my version of gloomhaven has more map tiles and I also have the daedalus organizer. How do you store all of them in yours?

Why do you have two copies of Gloomhaven??

I really don’t understand what you big issue is with the broken token boxes? So you can store all of them. I love the four character trays. So you need to swap characters around every now and then? It might be a bit of extra work, but you make it sound like something that may actually take 1-2 minutes will take hours. If you have a problem with that I wonder whether you’re actually ready for life.

Used a tiny microphone to record audio

Will the Daedalus also Store the First Expansion after it is available?

You see. Just play with the app. You only need the scenerario tiles and some enemies, coins and traps and a few cards. The rest is unnecessary at best.

Can you show how you unbox and restore the charters your currently playing?

I can’t seem to find the Daedalus insert any where online is it no longer available?????

How did you find the texture of the wood and varnish on the daedulus insert?

IMO neither.... ok it looks good and is nicely together with everything tugged away in the original box, but imo the best way is just to get more boxes instead of spending a s-load of money for storage containers. if one carries around a 10kg box already why not get 1 shoe boxes where one puts in all the big tiles and 2x $3 organizer for the monsters. A big irritation of Gloomhaven is the time for setting it up...while these storage systems are nice...it still takes a really long time to get everything out, placed and set up te board. Also since I sleeved all the cards....the storage seems to be less ideal anyway. Best is to simply spread the content over more boxes...get the tiles and monsters out of the original box and there is loads of room to get the rest back in without having to puzzle everytime you want to play a boardgame.

Ahhhhh! The music is so loud!! Its too bad you can't edit this video to make the levels more reasonable.

I wonder how those compare to the Meeple Reality and GO7Gaming versions... Or Gloombox By Laserox

Tell me more about your table!!!

Are the status conditions for the deadalus insert just all piled into one big mess??

May I have your second copy of Gloomhaven? I take the one with the Daedalus insert thank you!:D

I need a broken token insert :)

SamSays needs a microphone

I ripped a seam on my box trying to mess with storing it after opening it >.

Excellent video!

Do either one of these have room for the upcoming expansion?

What sleeves do you suggest for gloomhaven?

Broken my speakers....

Maybe you want to check out this one as well: laserox.net/GloomBox Rahdo has it reviewed.

They both suck. accordion binder + fishing tackle boxes are the best way to go, and like 1/20th the cost.

Go7 >>>>>>>>

DEADALUS... HOW MANY EUROS DOES IT COST ???

A big problem for me. Dude, open up two more character boxes. You know, one of the none locked ones. Problem solved. Really. This was a big problem for you? Seriously?

Daedalus. Hands down.

12:32 fits like a glove

Who stored it better? After an embarrassing amount of research Go7Gaming stored it the best.

Great review... I have broken token.. now I wish I had daedalus... hahah ohh well :) nice stuff

I appreciate what you tried to do with this video...but you need to learn the basics of something before you go out and do it. Take producing a video as an example. Consistent sound levels matter!! Let's just say on an audio scale from 1 to 10 (with 5 being the volume level that you started with in the beginning of the video)...when you cut to the scene where you were taking apart the broken token organizer, the volume jumped up to about a 9...and then when you came back after the Daedalus example was completed...the volume went down to about a 3. A good video is about good quality video and good quality and consistent audio!

The answer: Meeple Realty :D

Do NOT take the advice of this video. IT NO LONGER HOLDS ALL THE CARDBOARD CUTOUTS WELL, they have either redesigned it, or a new version of Gloomhaven was released. Stick with Broken Token, it is a far superior product. Please check reddit/r/gloomhaven for a more robust review from me which for some reason is not showing up on the Daedalus website.

go7gaming or go home, lol

Broken Token has no labels... yeah kills me...

Your BIAS is showing.

10:42 No. That is not it. Where are the cards? Why are these companies making these storages don't make the single obvious thing with monster in this game? Which is combining everything into a box with their Stats Sheet as the cover and everything (cards, standees and initiative names) inside of it, for each separate monster.