GMG Reviews - Marvel: Crisis Protocol by Atomic Mass Games (Asmodee)

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It's time for another GMG Review! Today we take a look at Marvel: Crisis Protocol, the two player starter set from Atomic Mass Games (Asmodee) for their 35mm Marvel Hero team-fighting game.
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@UkkoKaarto 2 жыл бұрын

I'd love to see a "Second look: After playing a lot of games review" of this game and Middle Earth Strategy Battle Game. These walkthroughs are good and all, but I'd love to hear opinions. Why is M:CP a good game, where does it shine, what are the not so good things.

@grimalldi4526 4 жыл бұрын

Cant wait for a lets play

@KevnKalifornia 4 жыл бұрын

The miniature for Galactus will just be a pair of size 23 purple Doc Martens

@daxthedestroyer9061 4 жыл бұрын

Baron Keto slaying carbs!

@Siygess 4 жыл бұрын

Holy cow, Q3 and Q4 are pretty insane when it comes to reviews!

@KevnKalifornia 4 жыл бұрын

Really looking forward to the Let's Play for this.

@patrickweaver3405 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for adding the comment about the licensed game surcharge. Many folks dont think about that. The Marvel License is the most expensive on the market right now and has been for years.

@JedrekVRoscoe 4 жыл бұрын

The extra bits are genius! Tiny, fiddly bits always give me anxiety when I glue them (inevitably to my fingers too).

@pureevil9496 4 жыл бұрын

For plastic models I recommend tamiya plastic cement It's not sticky and messy like super glue

@ThePerztuason 4 жыл бұрын

Good review as always! I hope they make 2 starter for the X-Men as well

@audioweasel6997 4 жыл бұрын

Needs more Nightcrawler

@13Robzilla 4 жыл бұрын

I believe the movement sticks are indeed 3, 5 and 7 inches, but you have to use the bevel on both sides. If you measure from the middle of the curve to middle of curve accounting for the round base it is actually just inches nothing proprietary other than using it instead of a ruler.

@georgepitre9680 4 жыл бұрын

Really looking forward to this. /Watches review to see if hype is justified

@horrid74 4 жыл бұрын

Baron Zemo :D ! Not A list? He was a solid Captain America villain, ran the Masters of Evil vs. the Avengers, and lead the Thunderbolts "hero" team.

@TedSoper88 4 жыл бұрын

I think Ash has admitted he is more into the gritty heroes, as a long time comic nerd I was laughing at his name guesses.

@horrid74 4 жыл бұрын

@@TedSoper88 It's pretty rare I can give him the gears on a gaming commentary so I chose my battles like Baron Xena :P .

@TheFreemanko 4 жыл бұрын

with the measuring, usually it comes out to a pretty normal distance when you add a base into it. IE measuring from front of base to front of base.

@mrhuettel 4 жыл бұрын

or rather, if you measure the insides of the movement tools. that's when you get the expected 3, 5 and 7 inches.

@DarkAutumnScribe 4 жыл бұрын

Looking forward to the "Let's Play." I am curiouse how you compare this to the Batman Miniture game...

@Ruinstad694 4 жыл бұрын

I really like that the learn to play book really looks like a comic

@TheEldarGuy 4 жыл бұрын

This is the review I've been waiting for. Expecting a real BMG v MCP comparison.

@TedSoper88 4 жыл бұрын

Probably more similar to DCUMG

@kaibe5241 2 жыл бұрын

BMG?

@TheEldarGuy 2 жыл бұрын

@@kaibe5241 Batman Miniatures Game. It's been out for about 10 years now and on its 3rd edition. You play a crew (Riddler, Joker, Militia, etc) and have about 5 to 10 models each. It's all street level DC (Green Arrow types) and ties in TV and movies as well as comics. The DC Universe Miniatures Game.is a spin off variety, all powered heroes and villains (Superman, Black Adam, etc). Before Crisi Protocol, Knight Model had the Marvel miniature game. They were a company known for its quality models, and then they built a game. Roll forward 10 years... we have Crisis Protocol.

@kaibe5241 2 жыл бұрын

I just got into it, I've been utterly amazed at the miniature quality. Like... these miniatures are seriously fucking good!!!

@itsallfunandgames723 4 жыл бұрын

I don't think I'm buying into another game, but if I were, this looks pretty cool! Good overview Ash.

@Anjohl 4 жыл бұрын

Smart man. If you're like any of the rest of us, you have 3-4 systems already.

@TedSoper88 4 жыл бұрын

I wonder if a DBA/Xwing single measure stick style would work well.

@YoshisPainting 4 жыл бұрын

Game: Measuring sticks exist Ash: *triggered*

@thorinwhitewolf1213 3 жыл бұрын

looking at the movement sticks they are front of base to back of base so it incorperates the length of the base too. so that means bigger base minis move further for the same move range. that may be why they are non standard by the looks of it.

@alcovitch 4 жыл бұрын

I'd be interested just for the models to paint really.

@jerric1228 4 жыл бұрын

Looking forward to boosters of certain characters, a little disappointed how big they are, but it doesn’t seem too bad.

@GuerrillaMiniatureGames 4 жыл бұрын

Honestly they're not much bigger than a Space Marine or Warmachine figures. Any of your terrain should work fine with these.

@acesky1457 4 жыл бұрын

The movement sticks for FFG are usually designed to me just not the same distance as the range rulers. Example, in Star Wars legion range 2 is just farther than speed 2.

@kingmarke6940 4 жыл бұрын

Great looking models and HIPS is always a good choice. Shame about the non-standard measuring. Review is gold as always ;)

@kaibe5241 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah but this isn't Kill Team 2 measuring (fuck me dead), we can deal with these tools np :)

@KentuckyFriedGamers 4 жыл бұрын

What are the measurements from the top of the arc? Looks like the measurements would be closer if not dead on from the top of thearcs.

@jeffersonjjohnson 4 жыл бұрын

I'm 80% on this now. I would love to see Fantastic Four. Seeing an announcement for Ka-Zar would make my head explode; not because I like Ka-Zar, but it would mean they're going deep into Marvel without focusing on MCU stuff.

@GuerrillaMiniatureGames 4 жыл бұрын

Well they had Modok as a first wave model... so they’re not messing around with sticking to MCU!

@ZeeLobby 4 жыл бұрын

Man, if only this came out 5 years ago, lol. I'm just super heroed out at this point. Kinda like the GoT game, or even Star Wars Legion. The me of 5 years ago would have jumped at any of those. Now... Eh. It'd be interesting to learn more about the IP licensing process for these games, or how/when/why they decide now is the time.

@patrickweaver3405 4 жыл бұрын

I think the reason for "why now" is Asmodee has exploded in size in the past 5 years. They have had/are having great success with the Star Wars license (also owned by the Mouse) and now has the money, a great track record, etc and likely can now afford the Marvel License (the most expensive out there), possibly at a discount from the Mouse due to the success they have with Star Wars. Their original SW license only encompassed the original trilogy and the new movies. The prequels were not in it. The release of the Clone Wars for Xwing and Legion minis shows they must have expanded/re-negotiated the license.

@ZeeLobby 4 жыл бұрын

@@patrickweaver3405 true. But I feel like asmodee has been a power house for years. Post avengers endgame just seems late. I mean it's not like marvel hasn't been a hot IP for a decade. But without talking to them we'll probably not really knowm

@thornar 4 жыл бұрын

ZeeLobby it takes time to put these together. So chances are they started well over two years ago. Design and then play testing putting it together then months to print and ship.

@johnlong8952 4 жыл бұрын

Do you think BMG terrain works for this?

@AceHardy 4 жыл бұрын

👑

@khristienpennanen1810 4 жыл бұрын

I'm excited for this game! My one worry is the game system hasn't let them give the characters personality

@kaibe5241 2 жыл бұрын

Still concerned?

@ChuckRockJay 4 жыл бұрын

are the movement sticks perhaps standard lengths when measured from middle of indent to middle of indent?

@khristienpennanen1810 4 жыл бұрын

Range 1 is the width of a stick indent know if that's what you mean

@RozanovaHunter 4 жыл бұрын

I'm really curious to see what the cross-section will look like for Marvel fans that have never played a hobby game before, trying to get into this without experiencing something like it before and running unexpectedly into assembly, painting and the cost.

@brunneng38 4 жыл бұрын

Asmodee rulesets give me a headache

@DavidSmith-te9gg 4 жыл бұрын

Is the distance for the move sticks a whole number if you add the base diameter to it? IE as if you measured front of base to front of base in a regular game.

@GuerrillaMiniatureGames 4 жыл бұрын

No not quite

@curseofyig6727 4 жыл бұрын

How does it compare vs Marvel Universe Miniatures game?

@Siygess 4 жыл бұрын

How do the cars compare, size wise, with the plastic ones from the Walking Dead?

@GuerrillaMiniatureGames 4 жыл бұрын

Roughly the same. Maybe slightly bigger but you wouldn’t notice

@squallgoku777 4 жыл бұрын

What rules aren't included with the Core Box?

@2Eliishere 4 жыл бұрын

I personally would put many many beer bottles on Irons mans base.

@septymesk7721 4 жыл бұрын

I totes agree with this review. I like the idea and set up of this game, but the custom widgets annoys me

@MrElliptific 4 жыл бұрын

Good box opening, but gee, you're brutal! :D

@radeadcool 2 жыл бұрын

"Avengers: Unassemble!"

@josejoachin5338 4 жыл бұрын

AWWWW YEEEAH

@spikedpunch7000 4 жыл бұрын

Sooooo...thoughts on this vs. Knight Models DC minis game?

@tomryan3768 4 жыл бұрын

This game will be EVERYWHERE. I don't know any store that sells DC in the Boston metro area

@colinpritchard2067 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah the problem with Knight is the distribution. Game stores have given up on them as well.

@patrickweaver3405 4 жыл бұрын

@@colinpritchard2067 Much to the fact they went from metal to a crappy resin formula (also, the true size minis are too thin at ankles, wrists, etc and break too easily). The stats changed too much from 1st to 2nd ed, which they barely told the retailers they were doing, which then invalidated much of the stores stock (old cards). Now they are moving on to third edition which appears to have the same stats change issues AND their new releases now keep packing new models with old ones that players already own or at price points that are way to high (you can buy them separate cheaper). They just plain suck at communication and doing anything to help retailers and their customer service is DREADFUL!

@Kolia54 4 жыл бұрын

Patrick Weaver well knight models is a very small company... asmodee on the other hand....

@TheShadesOfBlack 4 жыл бұрын

40:00 Small correction, after reading the rules, Captain Marvel's passive works during BEAM attacks, not during ENERGY attacks, which is a special type of attack that uses the attack ruler as a 'beam' , as shown by the picture of the Hulk, as you did that. It doesn't matter at all but it bothers me.

@beathitus 4 жыл бұрын

whats the scale ?

@sirbobulous 4 жыл бұрын

Those character cards seem a bit flimsy in your hands, are they thicker/tougher than they looked here?

@GuerrillaMiniatureGames 4 жыл бұрын

Not really. But they’re probably easily sleeved with photo covers

@StarlightNightflame 4 жыл бұрын

If they make this box but with X-Men, I am so in.

@GuerrillaMiniatureGames 4 жыл бұрын

RIGHT?!

@mattiamolicacolella4319 4 жыл бұрын

Can you use these minis with the Knight Models rules?

@GuerrillaMiniatureGames 4 жыл бұрын

I mean, will ninjas come to your house and stop you?

@sirbobulous 4 жыл бұрын

KM ones are ~32-5mm scale and these are ~35mm, maybe a bit bigger so they should be fine.

@richmcgee434 4 жыл бұрын

43:30 Counterpoint: Superhero miniatures games are not all tied to big licensed IPs. Four-Color Figures' Supersystem rules have been through multiple editions for around 20 years now, and Pulp City has been around almost that long. There are many "generic" supers figs on the market from manufacturers like Old Glory, Crossover Miniatures, and Reaper, to name a few. None of them are paying licensing fees, many are downright bargains, and nost "independent" rules systems let you design your own characters so you can even play with your Marvel/DC/whatever supers if that's what you want to do. You could even use the Crisis Protocol figs. And as an extra plus, all the other rule sets use tape measures instead of proprietary gimmicks. :)

@karpidis 4 жыл бұрын

I bought it but I don't see any extras pieces and no way they can match easily. Even a friend that is a professional model painter told me that he had a hard time with glue and all this plastic that don't match.

@brentrobertson1807 4 жыл бұрын

You should save the Starbucks cup for your Stark army....just saying...missed opportunity.

@BrinPaints 4 жыл бұрын

Are the sticks maybe reasonable numbers in mm?

@DanteMustLearn 4 жыл бұрын

Range 1 - 1” Range 2 - 3” Range 3 - 6” Range 4 - 8” Range 5 - 10”

@BrinPaints 4 жыл бұрын

@@DanteMustLearn I meant the movement ones.

@GuerrillaMiniatureGames 4 жыл бұрын

@@BrinPaints I mean; I didn't check but all the Range Rulers were in Imperial... so I don't know why they'd suddenly switch to metric lol.

@DanteMustLearn 4 жыл бұрын

@@BrinPaints Short: 85mm (2 moves of 42.5mm) Medium: 130mm (2 moves of 65mm) Long: 185mm (2 moves of 92.5mm)

@BrinPaints 4 жыл бұрын

@@DanteMustLearn those sound more like they were designed in cm then 🤣

@richmcgee434 4 жыл бұрын

Heh. "Has ten dice it, should be enough for you and your opponent." Few weeks later and the Hulk can be rolling 14 dice at max before outside modifiers. Going to need more dice. :)

@AndrewMcColl 4 жыл бұрын

"Baron Chemo" XD

@tuckerhickey6596 4 жыл бұрын

Would you say this is better or worse than Heroclix? Or is it apples-oranges?

@handlesarestupid154 2 жыл бұрын

Definitely apples and oranges. Getting minis in heroclix is basically like buying a pack of magic cards, blind boxes/ ever-expanding collection. Crisis Protocol is more like Warhammer, you grab the 10 models you want in your army, paint them up, and you're good to go until (or if) your affiliation gets support

@TheShadesOfBlack 4 жыл бұрын

I cannot believe you just compared Baron Zemo to Crossbones... or compared Bane to Crossbones

@SpammerRapist 4 жыл бұрын

Baron Zemo is B+ - list!

@rickusjamesus 4 жыл бұрын

I hope they put out an X-Men one

@GuerrillaMiniatureGames 4 жыл бұрын

RIGHT?!!!!

@brunneng38 4 жыл бұрын

Baron Chemo 😂😂🤣🤣

@misomiso8228 4 жыл бұрын

The game seems surprisingly complex?

@Top8Gamer 4 жыл бұрын

My big fear is they don't let the characters have enough personality through the ability design.

@robertsedani2256 4 жыл бұрын

its like heroclix

@Drazmar 4 жыл бұрын

Probly metric system. Only 3 countries in the world that use inches. Sorry for the bad english.

@GuerrillaMiniatureGames 4 жыл бұрын

Except the ranges are all in inches!

@pureevil9496 4 жыл бұрын

Ah yes the classic FFG awkward movement rulers

@sirbobulous 4 жыл бұрын

Don't forget the token fetish!

@Darthvegeta8000 4 жыл бұрын

Bar 3 or so figures not really heroes and villains that appeal to me. A bit of a shame as it means that to get into the game I have to invest basically into a ton of figs I do not want. I think i'll skip.

@aanler 4 жыл бұрын

"And of course Captain Marvel". Of course? She was never even C-list Avenger.

@GuerrillaMiniatureGames 4 жыл бұрын

But she’s in the movies... meaning she’s in the box.

@aanler 4 жыл бұрын

@@GuerrillaMiniatureGames fair enough! 🙂

@BubblegumJpt 2 жыл бұрын

Inches suck. Metric system should be standard everywhere.

@nickxcaliber7991 4 жыл бұрын

Nice review. I really think the Knights game is better and has simpler mechanics. Seems like this game just ripped it off. 8 sided dice, power, etc. I dislike the custom dice here, just makes things annoying, and the measuring devices is sort of annoying.

@tomryan3768 4 жыл бұрын

Good luck find a store or community playing a KM game. My group won't touch anything made by them and i don't know of any stores with 75 miles that are willing to stock it. MCP is being sold by every game store near me and my ENTIRE group is diving in.

@eduardoguimaraes8296 4 жыл бұрын

Better is relative, but KM having simpler mechanics? I don't think so....each character in KM have tons of skills and abilities that gives modifiers to different things, and remembering them all is not simple at all. I like KM game but this appears much more streamlined

@nickxcaliber7991 4 жыл бұрын

Tom Ryan we play knights games a few times a week here.

@patrickweaver3405 4 жыл бұрын

@@tomryan3768 ya, KM burned too many retailers and distributors. They are in for a rude awakening I think. Not to mention the fines they had to pay for illegallng selling the Marvel minis they made.