thats a mouthful, lol.

@@gnutzguy it's allright dude

@@gnutzguy but it's yu-go-slavian not yo-gu-slovian xD had a giggle listening the way you pronounce it. It's all good. Nice content.

Haha. I was just about to post the same thing. Those Slavs like doing yoga, I guess.

It’s like You-go

thats a super deal, i dont recall them being that low in 2002. your husband is a wise man. every sks i've sold in the past i regretted it.

@@gnutzguy they are such fun rifles, I’m from Japan and i married my husband in 2012 and he taught me to properly use firearms and the SKS,Ak and Ar-15 was my first rifles my husband exposed to me and i love all of them. Only rifle i am not a fan of is the 7.62x51/.308 G3 and FN Fals too heavy for me. Took time for me to learn how to properly load the sks from stripper clips needed to get a little stronger.

I have some as well and yes the prices went way up. Got 6 for 100 a piece. Wish I would have bought 20

Many thanks!

there are no proof of better steel used but for argument sake let's say they did. high carbon steel will still rust and it will cause pitting. pitting increases friction, friction causes more heat. more friction and more heat causes the bore to wear out faster therefore reducing accuracy. besides why does yugo sks needs to be more accurate than other sks? it is not a sniper rifle. i was in the military too and not all soldier are diligent on properly cleaning their rifles.

@@gnutzguy You would have to be exceptionally negligent to let corrosion reach the point of pitting. Even in the first or second world war (besides some areas of Stalingrad) front line troops were not in contact with the enemy for days on end, usually mere hours. Running a patch down the barrel takes how long? You also speak of your experience in the military. Did you ever stop to think that in a country that had non chrome lined barrels that would have had more strict regulations and training regarding cleaning rifles? Were you a soldier in Yugoslavia? It's not that chrome lining is inherently a bad thing, but it *is* a tradeoff. You say "why does yugo sks needs to be more accurate than other sks? it is not a sniper rifle." Are you seriously trying to make a argument that more accuracy isn't a benefit? Even if we are talking about the difference between 4moa and 2 that's a appreciable difference to any trained soldier shooting out to the effective range of a SKS. Is it going to make the difference hitting a center of mass shot on target at 200 meters? Probably not, but it could make the difference between hitting or missing someone in the head or in partial cover. More accuracy is never a bad thing... You act as if for hundreds of years everyone's firearms must have had deep pits in them in 24 hours because they didn't have chrome technology yet. 🤦

i hope are not saying the accuracy difference between chrome and non-chrome is 2moa? hundreds of years? hello , corrosive ammo hasnt been around hundreds of years. anyhow, if high quality steel has so many benefits then why did Yugo switched to chrome in the 1970s? see link: www.sksboards.com/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=61pvjofqq1qepe8idgut97cco6&topic=25489.0 "I wrote to Mr.Branko Bogdanovic , asking him what was the reason why Yugo sks were chromeless. For those that don’t know who he is, Branko is THE leading authority on all Yugoslavian weapons, and also Kragujevac factory historian. Of course, Kragujevac is the one and only Yugo factory that produced small arms in Yugo. His response: The technology for producing chrome and nickel existed in Slovenia’s steel mills ( one of the former Yugo republics, now independent state) in 1950. But, technology of actually applying hard chrome in barrels, began after1970 in Kragujevac factory. First chrome barrels were produced in M70 automatic rifles ( Yugo Kalashnikovs), and Yugo automatic pistols Skorpion 7.62 mm M84 ( Czech scorpion M61)"

​@@gnutzguy You have a habit of saying some incrediblely odd things. "corrosive ammo hasn't been around hundreds of years." You heard it here first folks, black powder isn't corrosive, don't clean your muzzle loaders... 🤦 Then you make an argument for points I never made... Do quote me where I said Yugoslavia chose to not chrome their barrels for accuracy. I agree that Yugoslavia didn't chrome barrels because they lacked chromium natural resources. I never disputed this or pointed it out in the first place. I simply pointed out, quality high carbon steel rusts more readily than non high carbon steel, chrome lined barrels aren't inherently better, and inherently sacrifice accuracy for reliability and rust resistance, there is always tradeoffs and compromises with such technologies. These are all objective factual statements. Your counter arguments aren't even directed at anything I specifically said.. Other than the 2moa difference in accuracy which was a hypothetical example. Regardless of what the MOA difference there is, it is in-fact measurable, that is my point.. Chrome lining is a choice which is a reasonable choice to make in a military setting (which I said in my original comment), but it also isn't as big of a deal as is assumed either, most weapons in WW2 also lacked chrome lined barrels including the M1 Garand. The variability in accuracy would most likely be determined by ammo quality over chrome lining.

@@-Zevin- i'm odd, thats funny. 1. when an experience person like myself say corrosive ammo, we mean corrosive primers, its the primer thats corrosive not the gun powder. so why are you talking about black powder and muzzle loader? lol. so primer has NOT been around for hundreds of years. that was my point. 2. you are asking me to quote you for something i didnt say either. you jumped to conclusion from the link. my original point was there is no proof Yugo used better steel. even if they did, the benefit doesnt out weight the negatives and thats why the M70 switched to chromes in the 1970s. those are my points. 3. you said " I agree that Yugoslavia didn't chrome barrels because they lacked chromium natural resources." i'm saying you are wrong because Yugo does have chrome. please read the link. www.photius.com/countries/serbia_and_montenegro/economy/yugoslavia_former_economy_energy_and_mineral_r~11882.html "Kosovo also supplied a substantial part of Yugoslav chrome."

yugo are more expensive only bcos its rarer.

thanks for sharing.

sniper? really. i find the front end heavy.

nice. i wont fire my unissued russian bcos i've another, lol

interesting. thanks for sharing.

unfortunately. no chrome bore so barrel will wear out sooner.

How old a firearm is has little to do with how it fires…actually nothing to do with how it fires

The Russian SKS is superb!

@@gnutzguy would I be correct to assume that because 7.62 is a slow round that barrel life is pretty good with even mediocre materials?

yes, mine is a 10 rds mag but is limited to 5. our stupid gun law.

very interest story. i havent seen a chinese stock with two cross pins before, only on the russians

@@gnutzguy Finally figured out when and where it was made at a site that had updated Chinese serial numbers. My gun is a Factory 26 SKS made with a Russian style factory stock in 1965 (9,000,000 plus) serial number with the 五六式 stamp. Why a Russian factory stock? I don't know as they said that they broke up with the Russians in 1960. They may have been still making it in the Russian style and I got one of those SKS's. As I said it's military grade and a great shooter. They did a good job making the early SKS's before the whole export model thing, which I think unfairly gave the Chinese SKS a bad rap. I've seen and helped work on some those post 86 SKS's and a lot are badly built, fitted, and untrustworthy to shoot. I did note one thing, military post 1988 guns were made to accept AK Magazines. I think they got the idea from the Russians, but didn't standardize AK mag SKS's till much later. Several SKS's I've seen imported in the late 80's where made to handle AK Mags and were later banned for import after 1994.

In the Soviet SKS world, the two stock pins meant the stock is a laminate stock. My '51 Tula is so equipped. A single stock pin is a real wood stock. Which is what I wish mine had. lol

The SKS will liberate Canada

@@CovenantElite1117 Behind every blade of grass

sorry to be so offtopic but does anybody know a trick to log back into an Instagram account?? I was dumb lost the login password. I appreciate any help you can give me!

@Brooks Jalen Instablaster ;)

@Arturo Steven Thanks for your reply. I got to the site on google and im trying it out atm. I see it takes a while so I will reply here later with my results.

but the yugo dropped the ball by not putting proper coat on the wood. Coating with oil attract dirt which forced me to redo the wood otherwise I would agree with you.

Thanks and thanks for watching.

Thanks.... canada

But you are comparing your m59 to your Russian. Compare it to mine and it would be a different story, my Russian is unissued and unfired. Btw, my Russian was built in Tula arsenal which was built 313 years ago, I'm just saying, lol.

@@gnutzguy I'm comparing the Yugo M59 in general to other SKS rifles - NOT mine in particular. I'm a big fan of Tula and Izhevsk Armories. I have a 1968 Izrhevsk AK, a couple of Tula Armory Mosin rifles, and a Soviet Nagant revolver with Tula markings and date stamp. However, in my opinion, the Serbian Zastava Armory is on par with Tula and Izhevsk. BTW, my M59 was in unissued and unfired condition.

@@Batko10 so you werent comparing your gorgeous yugo to an unissued Russians bcos unissued Russians in the US are not common (in the hands of collectors), unlike in canada.

i redid my yugo. see result in this vid. kzfaq.infoTmMv2IAAUAE

lol, i dont know you. perhaps you know someone who know me. if you know me you then you would know i'd over a dozen russian sks that i shot. i chose THIS russian bcos i wanted to show what a prestine one looks like.

Thanks .... Not in the video but in the thumbnail pic , yes. Two different gun.

yup, do either. wipe it with oil or degrease it and put a protective coating. do what you are comfy with

@@gnutzguy understood thank you! And when you say oil do you mean a gun oil or an oil for wood? Forgive my questions I’m just uneducated in this and am trying to learn. It’s my second rifle!

@@nicksaltarelli8179 no problem. welcome to the gun hobby. we need more new blood. yup, used gun oil.

@@gnutzguy understood! Thank you again, very much appreciated.

@@nicksaltarelli8179 For reference I restore antique weapons, some as old old as the 1700s and the proper oils made the wood look good as new. I have even rehydrated leathers from the early 1800s on sword scabbards that were dry and hard as glass with natural plant oils, restoring them to remarkably good pliable condition. You want the right tools for the right job. If you used gun oil or solvents on your rifle I suggest scrubbing the stock with a cloth and a decent amount of soap and water, let it dry overnight in-front of a decently powerful fan. You want to break down the petroleum oils that are likely deep in the grain now.. dish soap can do well at this while still being gentle enough to not do further damage.. Do not use gun oil... *never* use gun oil on wood... (unless it's ballistol, ballistol is a mineral oil and will not damage wood, but it isn't a great wood oil either and dries out quickly) any other gun oils, rem oil, CLP, etc are terrible for wood. I can't believe he said that. That is a good way to ruin wood long term. Petroleum distillates in motor oil / oil for firearms, any oil intended for steel will ruin organic materials like leather and wood over time; essentially what is a protectant for metal can be corrosive for much softer organic materials. You want to use Tung oil, or boiled linseed oil. Either require multiple coatings and a drying period. Oils like Tung or linseed oil soak into the grain hydrating and expanding the grain of the wood, as it dries in multiple coatings it actually hardens and creates a shellac like hard film. Doing multiple coatings and dryings with the proper oil will protect your rifle stock long term, and it can significantly improve the fit and finish. Hydrated wood becomes much stronger and will tend to dent instead of crack or chip. *You do not want to use petroleum products or corrosive solvents on wood,* that is a great way for a wood stock to become overly dry, damaged and crack with age. It's not something that happens overnight, it's over years, but protect your investments and pieces of history, use proper oils.

and now it looks like a good buy, cheers

@@gnutzguy Cheers 🥂 back.

and the price will only go up good buy

Picked up an unissued one a few years back when they were being brought over here from Slovakia. Never fired and a really nice gun love it. Surprised it even had the checklist a little grey book the military had when they went threw the riifles and must have did count. Anyhow prefer the yugo to the chinese one that's for sure well built.

@@raresr4092 I just wish they had chrome lined barrel, though.

yup, silly gun law up here.

Detachable mag conversion is the more American approach.

Lol Canadians can still use bean flips I think .😂🤫

Max

for clarification, yugo sks top cover didnt fit?

ive had a yugo and chine sks and ive checked out a russian i think russhian is number 1 china number 2 yugo number 3

yup except the yugo, too heavy.

​@@gnutzguyas a "yogoslavian" how you pronouced it...i say that walnut stock will absorb far more recoil being heavy

@@djordjekaljevic5725 but 7.62x39 doesn't have much recoil plus the barrel and gas valve rust like crazy

​@@djordjekaljevic5725yeah 7.62x39 recoil isnt much anyways. I want the lighter ones if im in the woods alll day.

click the yugo/petition link in the description.

/26\ 1966 here 👍

my latest Chinese is fac 26 1979 with french tickler top HG. unfired.

I acquired my first this year, Chinese /636\ 1975. I have no ex?experience with the others, but after spending 25 years in oilfield manufacturing, I can say unequivocally that it is a well made, high quality piece of equipment I wouldn't be afraid to trust my life on.

How can you tell the age/year? My Chinese sks is confusing. But all the numbers are matching

yes, with some hand filing but you are better off with an after market synthetic stock. im in the process of gathering a bunch of them for a review. so far i got 4-5, damn costing a small fortune .

maybe in the US but in canada, prices unlikely to go down due to uncertainty.

I’d recommend getting one now I don’t see Russian sks rifles being imported in large numbers anytime soon

Agreed

sweet, do you still own it?

Yes!

all sks has 10 rds fixed mag. in canada its limited to 5

Thanks for your idea. It is worth exploring. Matter of fact I have a mag for the sks that was factory modified to 5 rds. It would be interesting to replicate that but first I need a spare mag.

@@gnutzguy thanks for the reply. I'm especially interested in how the Yugo mag was done.

Thanks for sharing but Chinese made spike after the mid 60s.

@@gnutzguy Ok. I wasn't sure about the date of the Chinese spiker. One of them had the blade type.

@@tommyspann9740 no worries

No sks came with vented top handguard. You can easily reverse it by buying a wooden Chinese top HG, they are not expensive. Search my vid "vented handguard sks"

@@gnutzguy thanks a bunch!

The wood is much better too, you won't get burned

yes, we all know that. i compared the differences and not the quality, it was informational.

that would be in another vid

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many thanks.

Thanks for watching!

many thanks

glad to hear.

That is true . But some of the early Chinese models have screw-in barrels that aren't pinned.... The shoot quite well.... I think one of the tricks with the SKS is to find early screw in barrels, not the crappy ones later pinned.

Correction: Soviet,not russian.

​@@volodymyrbuchak1852Soviet? read Russia😂 same as Yugoslavia read Serbia

​@@johngibson2884I have a late model Norinco made at one of the lesser known factories and it still has a screw in barrel, not pinned. And it's all number matching.

Balkan only made shit quality 🤮

Thanks for sharing.

explanation in this link, you will find it interesting. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qr13iNaotc2reps.html

He's a canuck. Nuff' said and obviously isn't an SKS expert.

Spike does more damage ... puncture wound is harder to stop the bleeding

Serbia, welcome to my channel.

and you should. im sadden i sold my 1965

Same 😂 1966 matching numbers on mine

ah, you are correct in theory but.... you are assuming i am basing it on one yugo, mine.... nope, i have seen several internals and they are all the same. btw, no one has step forward to say theirs are smooth.

yup, i dont use corrosive on mine yugo bcos im lazy, lol.

nope, its a 65 and in mid year they switched to spike.

Canada

ya welcome.

Me too. Thanks

I sold mine when I moved to a condo. I bought them back in spite of lack of gun cabinet space. I agree with everything you said. No idea why any gun owner would Pooh Pooh them.

@@wvdave771 its just yours and mine opinions. whats not an opinion is im on crack, im not, lol.

I agree!! A quality SKS is a fine rifle. Well built, good design, rugged, and reliable. It's a WW2 Era design. You can't compare it to space-age stuff like the AR platform. I would bet my life on the effectiveness of the Russian SKS. However, against a well trained and equipped adversary, I'd prefer something more modern like a 100 or 200 series AK or Scar. Not comparable to modern rifles. Apples and oranges.....

i hear ya. i bought them way back then sold them cos i moved to a condo but i bought them all back at higher prices. they will always go up, i say, lol

I don't understand why a different firing pin effect the use of a bolt. Would changing to Murray firing pin help?

@@gnutzguy so your saying it dosent matter if the firing pin is different that the bolt will still fit and lock up to fire a round?

@@gnutzguy I ordered a Yugo bolt carrier, could I use that with a Chinese bolt body

Get a Russian.

The bolts interchange as long as you replace the entire bolt. Swapping parts from one bolt to another will probably not work

my first encounter was at a gun store. i saw it on the rack and thought what an unusual shape magazine.

I would love to own a model M.

For yugo , there is a serial numbers table, google search it. The single letter stands for the year of production.

@@gnutzguy Chinese

@@williamemerson1799 best sight for chinese is Weebly sks.

@@gnutzguy Thank you very much!

@@williamemerson1799 you can only calculate the year of production from factory 26. All other factories you can't but a few does have the year stamped on the receiver

Chinese. What kind of problem?

no shit? thats sucks.

yup, sks is about all we have, lol.

Stupid laws, everyone know they can easily remove the limiting pins

@@TheTeehee11111 I think they will ban pinning and make it mandatory to chop the mags to 5 rds only.

@@edwardhawkey5714 recently the Canadian liberal government tried to ban all semi auto rifles including the sks, Luckily the public opposed and they backed down. they will try again with something else. So your 7 mo wait ain't so bad compared to a complete ban, lol.

VC favorite rifle.

civilian models are commercial variants, most were late production, they assembled standard SKS with leftover parts. while other commercial variants were modified from Earlier production which had blade bayo. example SKS-D. therefore you can not rely on the bayo alone.

commercial variants: kzfaq.info0wWHpqh6jqk

@@gnutzguy I believe I just picked it up for a moment, it was the norinko sks civilian import, nicer stock for sure.

Yes, I heard from other veterans from that war of the rust issue.

so it is an ammo issue, not rifle

@@tromblon1 no, all Commie countries used corrosive ammo back then. gas tube rusting was a common problem with all sks but easy to clean except the Yugo with grenade launcher bcos of the gas valve. Also made worst no chrome in the bores. Let's say it's a pain to clean a yugo.

there are many factory codes but not much are known about them after all it was the cold war. plus to complicate matters the chinese used more than one codes for a factory so for factory 26 they also used 126, 136 and 296. factory 36 also used 386 and factory 96 also used 9616. so could 946 be from 96? (me gussing) if so then it was in a city called Xiangfan in province Hubei.

@@wvdave771 serial starts by 17xxxxx, (7 digits) type 56, cant be commercial.

@@wvdave771 according to The SKS Carbine 4th edition book by Steve Kehaya & Joe Poyer, on page 33 says "usually a number in a triangle " was intended for military use. "circles, rectangle or ovals" for commercial use but 946 is in a triangle.

glad, you agree. i got more sks myth coming.

Lol. Already planned, just have to sort out details

Get one that hasn't been chrome lined, also you can turn off the gas tube on the yugo almost making it a bolt rifle and some say a little more accurate.

That claim is not proof of concept, but generally yes ! The issue was that Soviet design philosophy did not allow for something fancy or prestigious. it had to be rugged but not ergonomic or comfortable. The Soviet Union was the revival of dark age you had to suffer really hard to be a good comie. The Yugoslavs would sell all the Soviet weapons to the CIA and in turn got western electronics for the Tanks. Check out the M84.

Finnish SKS was just as good as any made but they stopped production early on

ne rise

@todd4300 : finland did not make SKS

Yugo sks and ak are beter then rusian belive me i was in bosnia during the war 1992 -1995

russian sks didnt come to canada in large quantity till 2008 at C$200 or US$150.

no, the trigger and bolt/carrier are the two groups i wouldnt interchange.

Accuracy is another myth I will do a vid on.

Thank you! Cheers!

ya beat me, lol. lowest was US$110, that was my favorite till last year, i'd paid US$400 my highest for an unissued factory 26 1979. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qsh8aM2L0c-9eZs.html

@@gnutzguy Not so fast. My $80 was in 1993 dollars so updated to when you made your purchase, you might have gotten a better deal. And I was able to purchase two tuna cans (880 rounds of 7.62 X 39 each) for $60 each. So two hundred dollars for a near new SKS and 1760 rounds of ammo. I still have both sealed ammo cans. I'm saving them in case I need to bug out.

That was about 1990 right I remember

@@willyswagon57 Summer of 1993. Purchased at a local gun show. At the same time I also purchased a near mint 1943 Husqvarna M38 Swedish Mauser cavalry carbine for $90. One of my finest and most accurate rifles, chambered in the well respected, flat shooting 6.5 X 55 cartridge. If I could go back in time I'd buy as many guns as I could carry home.

Keep an eye on and look hard down the barrel right in front of the firing chamber usually develops a crack after about 1500 rounds.

in the Peoples Republic of CANADA, lol.

@@gnutzguyHey, fellow Canadian here. My SKS fixed magazine doesn’t pop out when I hit the “mag release”. I can’t find any forums with a solution. Could you help? Here’s a video of it: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n5x6dZietc3UnJs.htmlsi=qxsvthA9Gj16gIcG

@@osiris654 it won't release the mag with the bolt forward. Pull the bolt back first

me too, lol.

what ever the explanation may be, most of the yugo imported here are late production and most yugo owners seeing the same quality as i says its the best. no different with the chinese sks here, mostly are late production or commecial, no one says its the best, even tho not many us seen one from the 50s or early 60s so i have to base it on what we have on hand.

Really good point cheers

@The Doobie Sisters & Sack Blabbath I loved it. Got five 20 round mags and a five rounder. They all worked. None so smoothly as the original 10 round though. Ate anything you fed it without a hiccup

@The Doobie Sisters & Sack Blabbath I had no issue with the high caps. I had to ever so slightly clean up the inside of the mag well to make them fit as the wood's fit and finish there is fairly rough. I noticed that when the high caps where full the tension from the spring was greater then the gun was designed for made the feeding less smooth and more "aggressive". I suspect it is possible that would cause undue wear eventually. Never caused any stove piping or anything.

bill: nope, are you sure its a russian and not a chinese? i dont think the russian made red bakelite stock

@@gnutzguy Definitely Russian. I have seen one other with this type of stock a long time ago but no idea of the year. It's not polymer or plastic and it's red. I have not had it apart except to check and clean...A very nice shooter and it has the blade bayonet. It could be some sort of aftermarket item but it is a perfect fit. That's why I'm asking about it.

probably chinese jungle stock, it was red and made of resin in fabric. they were cheap and plentiful in the 90s and early 2000

@@gnutzguyThey might have been plentiful but you still or at least I haven't seen any around. I had a Chinese pre ban years ago but my dad complained about it being a war only gun So I sold it back to keep the peace. I need to get it out and look a little more closely at it and I'll tell you what I see. So far you have given me more input on it then I have been able to find online. Maybe I didn't try hard enough but google will roughly give you what it thinks? you want. I found it in a pawn shop years ago so I don't know much about it.

kinda. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j9Kaks92qcvZpKs.html

Worth is very subjective. Same as I don't think German made guns are worth it.

Yep there worth 500-800$ now especially the type 56 with Bakelite handgaurd

i bought mine in person and i paid $500 last summer from another dealer.

I have Norinco SKS and Russian SKS. Both shoot great, no issues with over 1000 rounds +. I also fitted both with ATI synthetic stocks. Chinese SKS required very little sanding to ATI stock, practically just dropped right in. The Russian SKS was a pain, have to remove a lot more of material from inside ATI stock to make fit. So I would say Russian SKS was slightly wider tolerances. But I'm not a gunsmith. Also, when I bought my Norinco in the late 1980's they were on sale for 100.00 each Canadian... So I bought 3 lol.

@@gnutzguy i think im going to take the risk and order one online, recent reviews on their site people are saying they are getting some quality rifles.

@@inktownfishing4505 thanks for the info! i wish i got my pal years ago im for sure paying a lot more to get into it no but oh well its better late than never! i think im going to pick up a Chinese sks

Hey! I’m from Michigan, do you guys know if the Cabelas in Canada ships it over?

when you compared yours to my russian, you think yours is better? not that i dont believe you but could you post some pics of yours?

what do you need a grenade launcher for? Angry deer?

Istina ali ste ga koristili protiv svojeg naroda a ne neprijatelja

@@RovinjJoe Koristile su ih sve zaraćene strane, protiv dojučerašnjih komšija, prijatelja, kolega... Bratstvo i jedinstvo nisu mogli da opstanu, kada je bujala nacionalističko-religiozna mržnja i uverenje da (samo) drugi narodi kradu, tj. glupost...

If you live in the US then Sks-d are fine wine. They can only go up. Yours unfired is probably worth US$1500, . Fired US$1200

@Gnutzguy my father had a type D that he gave to a friend. A month after the friend took ownership, he called my dad and told him "it blew up".

@@Knightrem I never heard of sks blowing up before so what happened?

I wish, lol.

yes, even in humid and jungle condition, it still puuurred. thats why the VC loved this gun even when the chinese gave them type 63 (basicly sks with full auto) they still wanted the sks.