Go Seigen (W) vs Kitani Minoru (B)

Go Seigen (W) vs Kitani Minoru (B) - Real Board ASMR

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3 жыл бұрын

This is a game of go between legends of the game, Go seigen (White) and Kitani Minoru (Black). Go Seigen is often considered the greatest player of all time. His close friend "The Great" Kitani Minoru was one of the most influential teachers in the recent history. The combined Dan ranking of his students is +300d. Together, starting with their exploration of the Shin Fuseki, they changed the way the game was played more than any players had in over a hundred years.
The match we are watching in this episode took place in the first round of the 14th Annual NHK Cup Tournament on December 18, 1966. This is, by no means, the most important or famous match between these two revolutionaries. I chose this game for the first episode because it was the last time they ever played each other in the professional arena. The game has been provided without spoilers or commentary. I tried to provide something that could be used as a game study or just enjoyed for the pure aesthetic of this beautiful game. I wanted to provide a watchable game with high quality video and audio complete with a perceivable stereo image. So for best results, watch wearing headphones.
The game record was provided for free by Go4Go.net and can be found here. If you have not watched the video yet, I suggest doing so. SPOILER ALERT! The game record page shows the final result.
www.go4go.net/go/games/sgfvie...
My goal for this channel would be to, one day, film real games between real professionals on full size gobans with slate and shell stones. I will be posting other kinds of other go-related videos but for now I will focus on getting some pro games up for your enoyment.
Soon I would like to upgrade my go equipment. For now I am using a bamboo table-top board and yunzi stones from Yellow Mountain imports, which is really nice for the price and I'm very happy with it. But who doesn't dream of owning some real sea shell white stones? If you would like to see my go equipment upgraded please like, subscribe and say so in the comments. When I reach 100 subscribers I will be starting a fundraiser to upgrade my equipment to a Kurokigoishiten goban and slate and shell stones. To check them out, go here.
www.kurokigoishi.co.jp/english/
I will be experimenting in future videos with different lighting, camera angles, microphones, mic placement, etc. I recorded this in my sun room on a fairly quiet afternoon. There are some Background noises here and there that I hope aren’t too distracting. Please let me know what you think.

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@pricesmith1793 Ай бұрын

my favorite part of asmr is the constant and disproportionately loud ads

@josephbrowning4220 4 күн бұрын

If you use an adblocker you won't see the ads.

@BGChicks 4 ай бұрын

What a battle. To see such minds go at each other in elegant and fierce ways at the same time. I was on the edge of my seat the whole game. Thank you for sharing this!

@billy-cg1qq 2 жыл бұрын

Omg, I don't beleive such channel exist. Much love and respect, I really enjoyed this match so much

@ybor20 9 ай бұрын

Thanks a lot! This is a beautiful pace, even for a novice player like myself to follow without getting bored for a moment. Many moves are very logical and flow from the game. It was also very exciting, it turned out to last more than half an hour...I didn't notice until the end. also nice: the wooden board and just stones ..nothing to divert our attention

@rbpompeu1 2 жыл бұрын

Fantastic video! It would be great to have more of them. It's a sort of homage to the players!

@HudsonJT 3 жыл бұрын

Hey I really love this video, and would enjoy any other game you would like to share! The sound is perfect for helping me fall asleep.

@SafariAtari 2 жыл бұрын

Please more games! Beautifully done!

@livebythestone540 2 жыл бұрын

New game dropping tonight!

@SafariAtari 2 жыл бұрын

@@livebythestone540 Wow! This like fast food levels of speed! 10/10 great service, will dine here again.

@livebythestone540 2 жыл бұрын

@@SafariAtari 😂 some people ordered a cheeseburger 11 months ago and they're just now getting it. You ordered yours 5 minutes ago and get it at the same time.

@CarlosOjeda-ig3zw 5 ай бұрын

@@livebythestone540Please more games. Blessings in the Name of Jesucristo ❤❤❤❤

@Blunechi 4 ай бұрын

Really good quality for 1966

@milquetoes Ай бұрын

Brilliant concept 🎉

@Cosmic_Corpse22 17 күн бұрын

This make my legs go tingly

@thenakedsingularity Жыл бұрын

GO is a perfect game.

@arekkrolak6320 Жыл бұрын

great game, so simple even kyu players may learn from it, seems Go Seigen was driving the flow of the moves throughout the play

@devotoderamakrishna Жыл бұрын

Dear, your channel is very cool! A great initiative. In fact, it would be better for immersion if we had two players manipulating the stones. If it is possible it will be a positive point. May more videos come. Greetings from Brazil!

@calebmurray1571 3 жыл бұрын

Love this video! Would definitely love to see more and be here for the gear upgrade. Can't wait to see the experiments with lighting ect.. One thing I would like to see is a person for each colour: if you can rope in someone to do it 🙂. Also looking forward to seeing your stone placement style develop 😁 Exciting!

@livebythestone540 2 жыл бұрын

Night game dropping tonight. New microphones. New mix placement technique is better than the old. Definitely planning on involving another player sometime in the future. Do you have any specific suggestions for improving my stone placement?

@calebmurray1571 2 жыл бұрын

Whoop whoop! I'm pumped for it! Can't wait. On stone placement: I'm no expert. I've only been playing for a year now and from what I've experienced, stone placement is something that is unique to the individual. So other than the basics there is no right or wrong. Something I've been experimenting with recently is being intentional about adjusting my technique according to the emotion behind the move. I Love your work!

@livebythestone540 2 жыл бұрын

@@calebmurray1571 I tried to do a little bit of that. Didn't want to overdo it since the moves that look important to me may be different than the ones that would be considered more impactful by the pros. Right now I'm just trying to keep from skipping a stone across the board like it's a lake and ruining the game.

@calebmurray1571 2 жыл бұрын

Haha yeah. I've done that many times. It can be even more frustrating when an opponent hold a bunch of stones in their hand all the time and then drops them they play 🤦. One thing that I've noticed that you do different to me (not necessarily right or wrong) is that you pick the stones up with your index and middle finger. I pick them up with my thumb and index finger and then roll it over the tip of my index.

@ViciouzMigz 8 ай бұрын

These games are so cool. Didn’t get I introduced to this board game until I started watching Hikaru no go 🤓

@victoriamendez8273 Жыл бұрын

Thank you ⚫⚪

@SBhunter 6 ай бұрын

Why did u stop making videos?

@Recrid 3 жыл бұрын

Highly recommend Kawabata's Master of Go to go along with this. In the novel, the roles here are reversed. The character based off of Kitani Minoru is still not yet yet great.

@livebythestone540 2 жыл бұрын

Kawabata's Master of go depicts a fictionalized version of the drama surrounding the 1938 retirement game of Honinbo Shusai Which was played against Kitani Minoru. In contrast to the game portrayed here where both players are seasoned veterans, the book portrays a game between a veteran and a new breakout star.

@livebythestone540 2 жыл бұрын

@@Mercury-sf8yq The episode dropping tonight depicts a game between two of katani's students. Perhaps a good future episode would be based on the game depicted in the book. Although it would spoil the ending of the book for those who don't know the very famous story.

@ayesha36 2 жыл бұрын

Never heard of this novel, will add this to the list. Thank you!

@HandBaduk Ай бұрын

nice video

@alanyu4309 Ай бұрын

알파고가 강한 이유는 위와같은 양질의 데이터를 무수히 많이 흡수 했기때문이다. 현대인들이 알파고에게 고전하는 이유는 양질의 데이터를 학습할 시간이 없기 때문이다. 인공지능에대한 기막힌 영감을 얻었습니다. 공유해 주셔서 감사합니다...ㄷㅅㄷ^

@somato2688 2 ай бұрын

can you please do more games by legendary players?

@k_a_ivaschenko Ай бұрын

Big Hug and Thanks =)

@life-as-art Жыл бұрын

the best Veici party design I've seen.

@paysonfox88 20 күн бұрын

What confirms that Go Seigen could play today with zero issues, is twofold. 1. The computer AI analysis likes a ton of his moves in fighting positions. 2. He was beating his rivals 70-80% of his matches. His pro competition was almost exclusively 7P to 9P in the 1950's. Such legends as Sakata Eio were defeated 7 games to 2 with one draw in a jubango (10 game match). At the time, Sakata was rated an estimated ELO of 3200 -- 3250, and he lost with the handicap of always taking black against go seigen, with no komi rule by a score of 7-2-1 in that match. This indicated a rating difference of nearly 2 stones (350 to 450 elo difference) between the 2 at that time. I would say that in the 1950's, before the motorcycle accident nerfed his abilities, Go Seigen was playing consistently at 3400 to 3600 ELO. That was so far ahead of his time, it's staggering. He defiantly had matches where he was playing at that level. For everyone who says Go Seigen wouldn't have dominated until the early 2000's with what he knew at that time; Consider what would happen if Go Seigen played against Lee Changho with white and a 6 to 7 point komi..... get wrecked kid!!!

@dfeslavab Жыл бұрын

I like this video...

@megapowerman2 7 ай бұрын

Is this the same Go Seigen who played and mastered Mario Maker and Polybridge? A man of many talents.

@nikooahmadi4420 Жыл бұрын

💚💚💚

@pandasrtasty 3 жыл бұрын

More videos coming?

@livebythestone540 2 жыл бұрын

Yes. Tonight, in fact.

@Turtle1631991 3 жыл бұрын

Please put who is black and white in the video description. Saves time from having to find it out. Thanks :-) Go Seigen is White btw. is anyone else is asking that

@livebythestone540 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the suggestion! The players' colors are not just listed in the description but in the title of the new episode that is dropping tonight.

@letMeSayThatInIrish 2 жыл бұрын

@@livebythestone540 I just scrolled down here knowing the answer to my question would be in the comment section. Thanks Turtlemaroon :)

@livebythestone540 2 жыл бұрын

We fixed the glitch. Thanks Turtlemaroon!

@xaviergaarcia_ 26 күн бұрын

Whats the name of this game? It was curious 😮

@michaeldarling1759 7 ай бұрын

So looked like black won.

@jaytravis2487 3 ай бұрын

An interesting thought occured to me; what would the worn-out grid lines reveal about the Go-board owner's stome-laying tendency? Surely one would never want one's rivall to see one's old Go board...

@kishascape Ай бұрын

Ah perfect. I always wanted a physical board but I hate everyone and can’t stand being around people these days.

@laurenskee88 8 ай бұрын

Don’t even know what this is but i am now a dad

@tilasole3252 Жыл бұрын

Did he have split personality disorder? Great video for 1960's as well!

@bogiesan 10 ай бұрын

Nice work. similar clips from others have the bowls mic’d but off screen, equally ASMR-ish but less visual clutter. If I may, perhaps at the end you could rearrange the board for scoring in the Japanese style. That would add a ton of satisfying noises and, for those of us who play, provide a satisfying visual resolution to this classic game. Experiment all you wish, push the boundaries of your photography, lighting, and audio. Get some mics and a mixer if ASMR is a thing for you. Don’t worry about better stones or boards. They’ll come in time. When this stops being fun, it will be time to do something new with your go equipment. You might like this old clip of mine: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aLtxd5igt6jDoYk.html

@CarlosOjeda-ig3zw 5 күн бұрын

Hi.

@firstnlastn3571 Жыл бұрын

왼쪽 통에 돌은 왼손으로 해.

@videotrexx 16 күн бұрын

Any channel with "ASMR" in the title gets an automatic "Do not recommend channel".

@jessstuart7495 3 жыл бұрын

Sorry, but this probably should have been a 6 hour video. High-level Go players don't plop a stone down every 3 seconds and can take 5 minutes to make a move.

@jacksonfitzsimmons4253 3 жыл бұрын

This game most likely took multiple days. Depending on the context, games back in that day were not meant to be finished quickly.

@annonarmy 3 жыл бұрын

the moves have already been played decades ago? why would he pause for 5 min in the context of this video

@sanderforpresident 3 жыл бұрын

@@jacksonfitzsimmons4253 It is a TV cup (still going btw, 69th season is running now) so the time settings are actually fast in these games. 30 seconds per move but they also have 10 extra periods of 1 min. Sometimes they do use up a few periods but generally the games are pretty exciting because of the fast pace. Mistakes are made and it can get a bit messy sometimes. Can highly recommend watching the games and just keep in mind that they don't have a lot of time to think

@livebythestone540 2 жыл бұрын

@@jacksonfitzsimmons4253 The pace is optimized for keeping the action going while still feeling somewhat natural. I recommend turning on some background music and pausing the video if you would like to contemplate each move. You can also slow the video down in your KZfaq settings.

@livebythestone540 2 жыл бұрын

To see what the pace is really like in an NHK Cup game I can't recommend highly enough the english subtitled games from this tournament posted by Sunday Go Lessons. Here's the newest one. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/paikic1eu825hmw.html

@dr.s.p. 6 ай бұрын

Nice presentation. I would strongly suggest letting the viewer know who won and by how many points, as your link to the game on line doesn’t take you to that actual game and people grow tired of searching when you could’ve simply put the result in at the end, perhaps with a Japanese count so beginners learn.

@ragnarrothbard3418 Ай бұрын

The results are at the end

@CarlosOjeda-ig3zw 5 ай бұрын

@livebythestone540 Please more games. Blessings in the Name of Jesucristo ❤❤❤❤