It’s great hearing about the revival of the language. Hopefully Cornish will show as much growth as well.

I'm happy to see the Manx language revival. I love the Celtic languages (I'm sadly not Celtic :( ) I really do hope all the Celtic languages will stay alive

Sir (or madam), your knowledge of Manx as a NATIVE language is invaluable. The fact that over 2000 people speak it at this level after such a bottleneck decline is the sign that the history of Insular Celtic is far from over. I hope that Irish, Cornish and Welsh will also undergo an increase of this scale.

Gàidhlig Mhannain gu bràth! Good to hear as a Celtic language learner. (Learning Scottish Gaelic)

I thought the last native died in 74

Yep, Gaulish is awesome. You reminded me to listen to Eluveitie a bit more.

@Crispy Cream Yeah... the demise of the Gauls, Picenes (north and south), Sabine, Etruscans, Umbrians, Faliscans, Oscans, those of the Iberian peninsula (except Basque which somehow still survives)... and I could go on :)

@@weepingscorpion8739 and the Dacians in Eastern Europe (Romanians' ancestors) , illyrians (Croatia), Dardanians (Albania), Scythians in what's today Ukraine and the Caucasus area. All wiped out by the Romans. If the Roman Empire wouldn't have been there, things would have been different, but in what way? Maybe the early Middle Eastern people would have conquered Europe instead. Maybe the Nordic people would have migrated south. Maybe the Mayans would have. Endless possibilities.

Tapadh leibh,thank you.

@@stevenrussellpascal Let's not exagerate Romans' abilities to wipe out populations! Besides, killing your own newly conquered subjects is counterproductive and goes against the very purpose of forming an empire in the first place.

You have to take into account that english pronunciation would have greatly affected Goidelic pronunciation as well, especially considering these languages are sometimes near extinction and many times spoken only as second languages by primary English speakers. In fact, manx was entirely extinct and then revived, so naturally those reviving it were English speakers first and foremost

​@@BeorEviols This is not the case for native speakers of Irish and Scottish Gaelic. This is like claiming Indians speaking English in Delhi affected the Tamil people's language.

@DoubtingThomas I realise this is the case usually, but the case in Ireland is different. We mainly speak English because of intentional policies put in place to restrict the use of the Irish language. The reason Irish speaking areas still speak Irish is because they were so isolated that they were uneffected by the laws and the wider Anglophone world. Although the younger generation of Irish speakers do adopt a more English way of speaking I was mainly referring to older speakers.

Thank you for pointing that out! I was going to mention it as well but you beat me too it. The same rule applies to Scottish Gaelic as well, idk if it's in Manx as well

thats quite similar to japanese, i noticed

​@@Kettvnen Chinese languages too!

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Same as Welsh.Its an echo language. Did you? I did! Not no. Welsh is weird and wonderful. Nac ydw: means No but it literally translates as 'no yes'.😄. Nac = no & ydw = yes.The logic is that there is no YES which is a polite way if saying no! Is Irish Gaeilge the same. Celtic languages are the most interesting of all languages.👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🇨🇮🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

Dive in! There are lots of great online resources for Irish and for Scottish Gaelic. And they're fun languages to get to know.

@@baerlauchstal I agree and appreciate the encouragement 🙂 I took a leap, years ago, after hearing some amazing Gaelige songs. Alas, I had no one to communicate with, and the learning process ended up on the back burner. Are you fluent?

I think the difficulty of Gaelic (any) is a bit exaggerated. It's mainly because of the on the surface apparently disconnect between the written and spoken. But if you focus on just speaking first, then you'll realise that they probably aren't as bad as you thought. It's like English and French, really.

Chan eil Gaidhlig cho duilich!

@@monkeykingeater I referred to English and French only in terms of the orthography. Maybe more French than English. - And yes, sure, they are different grammatically with some stand out features but the speed at which I have seen certain learners learn these suggest to me that these are relatively easy to get used to. And yes, I know that everybody has different learning speeds.

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​@@Sniperking-7 If you're a fluent speaker and *really* try to understand, you will understand over 90% for sure.

Have they sort of merged in your mind or can you easily switch between Scottish and Irish Gaelic?

@@internetual7350Probably he lives in the Scottish regions near the Irish Sea

​@@HBC101TVStudios Not a lot of Gaelic spoken there I'm afraid 😟

I wish Scots was on Duolingo, too. I’m planning on learning all of the Germanic languages available, since English is my native language, and then moving on to the Celtic languages. I’ve started with Swedish, but I would’ve liked to be able to start with Scots, since it’s the closest language to English.

Tha mi ag ionnsachadh Gàidhlig air Duolingo cuideachd!

@@autumnphillips151be sure to learn Yola when you get a chance

Tha mi ag ionnsachadh Gàidhlig na h-Alba. I've had a couple of conversations with Irish speakers, mutual intelligibility is so cool!

Manx spelling is the same story tbh, I personally like Manx spelling and it's not terribly difficult to understand as an Irish learner.

As far as I'm aware, modern Manx orthography draws heavily from English Orthography. That's where it gets words with double vowels, like Tree. At least, that's what I believe. Don't quote me, I'm not a prodessional

Presumably because they just didn’t have Manx words for those colors. The interesting bit is that they decided to just hyphenate the colors that would make those colors instead of coming up with a “Manxified” version of their names.

Manx sounds like a corrupted form of Irish in my opinion. Look at go raibh maith agat

The "ayd" in the Manx "Agat/Agaibh" screams "Welsh/Cymreag"

Manx doesn't draw from Welsh at all, it's a completely different branch (Goidelic vs Brythonic) It's closest in pronounciation to Scottish but with a more English orthography :)

@@venh2073 Yeah, I know the difference between Goidellic & Brythonic language; as a speaker of Gaeilge, Gaidhlig, & Cymreag, I think I'd know. Commerce between Wales & Inish Mona gave loan words to the Manx from the Welsh; take for instance "Yn Çheshaght Ghailckagh (The Manx Language Society) was founded in 1899." - *Yn* Çheshaght Ghailckagh" - that Yn ( *an* in Gaeilge) is more akin to the Welsh/Brythonic "Yma" (here) than it is the Gaelic "An"

@@chungus_khan I wasn't trying to offend, you raise an interesting point, they are both basically the schwa. I'm just not sure that we ever traded with Wales as the Kingdom of Man and the Isles didn't go any further than us here in Mannin, I'll definitely be looking into any possible links 🙂

Do you speak Irish on a regular basis with native speakers?

@@fearmor3855 Yeah, and honestly now that im thinking about that ive definitely heard it, i just thought they were saying just Hello. Forgive i am terrible at written Irish.

A bheil thu nad neach-labhairt dùthchasach?

@@a.i.l1074 'S e Albannach a th' annam, ach b' e Beurla a' chiad chànan a th' agam

@@speakographer959 is cò às a tha thu ann an Alba? 's ann à Siorrachd Àir a tha mi fhìn

@@a.i.l1074 Tha mi à Alamhagh

Halò! 'S e neach-ionnsachaidh a th' annam! Ciamar a tha thu?

Cre'n mie t'ou loayrt Gaelg?

S'mie shen! Vel ram Gaelg ayd? By vie lhiat loayrt rooin?

How can you do that? 💀Perhaps you paused it- Sorry to take it seriously hehe

But you don’t have your religion in your homeland that you still occupy. The Middle Eastern religion Christianity colonized all of Europe. Celtic people, like Germanic people, are Indo-Europeans, and the only Indo-Europeans that have held onto their religion are the Hindus.

I do like the idea of a Law of Return, though. Both of my paternal grandparents have done a DNA test, and I’d love to be able to have the right to return to where my ancestors came from. Especially because of how scary things have gotten where I’m at.

I have family who are ethnically Jewish, and I was happy for them when I learned about the Law of Return giving them a guarantee of safe haven in case things get worse here. And ever since I read about it I’ve been thinking about how grateful I am to have heritage from where I do, and how badly I wish everyone had the right to return to their ancestors’ homelands.

All of these have heavy Old Norse influence. Mainly in vocabulary.

A lot of place names in the Isle of Man come from Norse like Laksaa and Rhumsaa

Surprisingly, the languages are phonetic and make sense, if you know about constant mutation

There's a few rules, once you learn those it makes perfect sense, there are no exceptions on pronounciation like in French or Ennglish.

@@luckneh5330 The orthographic systems of Scottish Gaelic and Irish do make sense (once you know the rules) but calling them 'phonetic' is an exaggeration (IMO). Welsh and Breton (and Cornish too, I guess) have truly phonetic spelling among the Celtic languages.

@@YeoweChiffewar Absolutely! Once you've learned the spelling conventions of Welsh - which aren't difficult - you can pretty much pronounce any word you see written. There are some exceptions, but those mostly come from the influence of English.

Ár nAthair atá ar neamh go naofar d'ainm

I agree , the numbers were said as if they were English

Dont forget cornwall or kernewek

Bro me too; Irish, Scottish Gaelic, Welsh and Norwegian; learnin' them *AND* like, 20+ other somewhat related languages on DuoLingo 🤣 (its free, why not🤘🏽🤘🏽🔥🔥🔥)

@@chungus_khan How's that going? 😂

Same but for Scottish. Tha mi pròiseil às mo shinnsearachd Albannach!

gilk

Geelk i believe

Irish is more like “gwaylgah” and Manx is like “gaylg”

Gaelg = gilk

​@@michaelcannon7640 That is only said by very few native speakers, it's just more common in the Galltacht because it was used for standard Irish, the most common pronunciation throughout Ireland was Gaelag, which is where the term Gaelic comes from.

I can't necessarily speak for Irish but as someone learning Scottish Gaelic, it does start to make sense! Go for it!

@@Sniperking-7 Welsh isn't Gaelic?

​@@Sniperking-7 *Celtic. Only the Q-Celtic languages are considered "Gaelic"

@@Sniperking-7 No 💀 it's not. That's like saying German and English are the same thing, Gaelic is quite different to Brythonic.

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It's not that we don't want to learn it. It's because of the way it's taught in schools. Half of my primary school teachers were terrible, others forced it down our throats, and this all couples with us beginning to hate it because we have to learn it in school with bad teachers. If the language was an optional subject in Secondary Schools, and less rigidity to how it is taught, more young people would be interested in learning it. We have a Irish language channel, TG4, but it is underfunded, as is the radio station. And - I loved learning Irish, but it was spoilt by the poor quality of teaching in primary school (mostly). I speak it fairly well, but I can't say 'would' or any conditional phrases BECAUSE I WAS NEVER TAUGHT IT. It's the teaching of it. That's the root problem. The poor teaching, and the fact its compulsory in secondary school.

Is mise ... s becomes sh when in contact with an i or an e. But look out: sh in Irish and Scottish Gaelic are pronounced like English h.

*Germanic* ; might be from either the Norwegians or Anglo-Saxons (I'd bet the Norwegians/Scandinavians had more of an influence on the language than the Anglo-Saxons, but I'm no linguist or historian😭🙏🏽🤣☠️)

@@chungus_khan I checked the other Germanic languages, so far, at least purple and pink have more in common with the words "lilac" and "rose". Yet, those colors might have been named differently before. Lilac and rose seem more like Romance origin words. This gets interesting.

Some theories are when then proto Indo-European branch split to western and eastern dialects, that a Proto Celtic-Italic branch was one of the early transitions of the western arm. When it split again, we got proto-Celtic moving West (in what is France and then Iberia) and Proto-Italic moving south and east.

That's because English experienced the Germanic Sound Shift in the first millennium BCE and Latin did not along with the fact that English's influence from Latin and French are really only on vocabulary. Despite said influence, the core of English vocabulary remains very Germanic.

aye, put me off

In the case of Manx, it's due to the main part of the corpus being a full translation of the bible. We only really had that and a handful of recordings available until relatively recently.

"Can't believe they have a Christian prayer in a video about languages from Christian nations."

@@adammacgreagoir4924 Christian nation? Not really anymore, atheism will win out - besides look how well all that 'christian' stuff worked out for the Irish and those in the West of Scotland! Very 'christian' indeed - I remember jebus talking about petrol bombs and killing....ya dick

I'm not a Christian, so don't get me wrong, but there's no reason to get so triggered over a religious text that's very commonly known being used as an example of the differences of similar languages in translation. You need to chill

Scottish Gaelic is the only of the three which still has as many or more native speakers than learners and second-language speakers. Consequently you are less likely to hear English phonetic influence from a randomly picked out Scottish Gaelic speaker than either of the other two.

Scottish Gaelic is also the most similar to the original old Irish which it descended from. Irish and Manx have both modernised themselves while Scottish Gaelic less so.

That’s really sad. So now even the gaeltachtaí are embarrassed to speak Gaeilge 🙄?

“ Losing a language is the same as losing a culture”

Tír Gan Teanga Tír Gan Anam

@Evil Robot Santa Claus 🎁 💣 💥 They aren't nation states. A country can be a country without being a nation

lmao, you don't even have a clue what you're looking at lmao.

Both your comments are offensive. Who are you to judge our languages? Just because you don't like how it sounds doesn't mean you can disrespect a language and it's people. We have a saying in Ireland- said by Padraig Pearse in effect saying A country has no identity without its language. With your comments, you're disrespecting native Irish, Scots Gaelic and Manx speakers, and the majority of those countries.

@@CMR_1317 I do hope that you will understand my response in Irish: Grunt grunt grunt. Grunty grunty grunt. Or, using the Irish magic spelling: Ghrouanth ghrouanth ghrouanth!

@Evil Robot Santa Claus 🎁 💣 💥 "Cryptic orthography" is just too funny. This single idea reveals all we need to know. You don't even know what all the consonant and vowel clusters do, yet you just insist that it's "difficult to read". This is why we're upset with you, it's not disrespectful because your comments are some sort of carefully considered critique, it's because both of you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. I claim this, perhaps you'd care for some evidence? Well, I shall quote from your comment: "throughout history some languages have successfully undergone orthography reforms to make it uniform with pronunciation" Irish was reformed after the Second World War. It's reforms are really interesting and make it quite different from it's sister languages in key ways. Because you don't know this and are talking faster than you're thinking, you've rather put your foot in it. In addition, it's amusing that you think French orthography is "ridiculous", French is also quite consistent once you learn the sounds and their associated consonant/vowel clusters. Because you fundamentally do not understand what you're looking at, you aren't perceiving this "like music" despite your pretensions to the contrary. Unlike music, which I would hazard a guess you've been listening to for most of your life, you have none of the context and experience required to start making judgements about language. A final, most frustrating point is that you've demonstrated that you don't know anything about language and identity. For example, French and English are not the only languages spoken in Belgium and Canada respectively. Both nations have large populations that speak something else. These other languages, largely forced to the edges of society by aggressive laws and teaching practices, are hugely important in terms of identity. I would note that a family of languages are of particular importance to the people who lived in Canada *before the colonisers showed up*. I understand that all you wanted to do was, like a child with a water pistol hiding behind a bin, be snarky about a language you don't understand. However, the second CMR_1317 called you out, you started back pedalling, trying desperately to come up with some "technical" reason why you don't like the language. However, as demonstrated, you don't know anything about what you're talking about, so your "reasoning" is little more than snarky bullying. My advice to you is to be more gentle with the world around you. Scottish Gaelic is slipping away between our fingers because it has been systematically forced out of it's people. Now there are only a few people, myself amongst them, attempting to learn it before it dies out completely. Comments like yours hurt because you represent the same indignant and hateful shite that got us here in the first place. We're aren't building castle walls to keep you out, we're rebuilding our wee stone wall that was knocked over on purpose. Agus, do @CMR_1317, tha mi an dòchas gu bheil thu nad shlàinte!