Going Deeper with Tom Schwartz & Tom Sandoval & Reality Recap: Bachelor, Traitors, & Superbowl LVIII

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Welcome back to The Viall Files: Reality Recap Edition! First, the household gets together to talk about the second episode of the Bachelor, including the first dates of Joey’s season! We also talk about Taylor supporting Travis at his latest game, if she can make it to the Superbowl with her Tokyo Eras Tour shows, and recap Episode 5 of Traitors. Then, we are joined by Tom Schwartz and later Tom Sandoval to talk about their friendship, the affair with Rachel, dating in LA, and what we can expect to see in Season 11 of Vanderpump Rules. Finally, we hear from a Texting Office Hours caller who went on a couple dates before the holidays, but needs help asking him out for a third in the new year.
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Timestamps
00:00 - Intro
05:04 - Nursery Reaction
07:06 - TSwift And The Superbowl
13:40 - Traitors Recap
18:23 - Bachelor Recap
34:50 - Tom Schwartz Begins
01:04:45 - Tom Sandoval Joins
02:05:41 - Texting Office Hours
02:18:41 - The Toms Interview Continued
02:28:18 - Outro

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@stayroxy 4 ай бұрын

If schwartz had stood up for katie the way he stands up for Tom,they'd still be married

@rebekahpettine5418 4 ай бұрын

THIS 👏🏼 MF 👏🏼 COMMENT 👏🏼 why he could NEVER stand up for Katie and ALWAYS pull through for Tom I will never understand… astounding

@amberwhite7946 4 ай бұрын

Not to mention the slight moments whenever he finally would it was always against a woman never another guy

@melancholycat3978 4 ай бұрын

💯💯💯🎯 THIS!

@SyrNarcissus 4 ай бұрын

I believe in my SOUL Schwartz has bottomed for Sandoval.

@JS-hn5ld 4 ай бұрын

KATIE IS A DEBBIE DOWNER SO NO

@taylorforshay6168 4 ай бұрын

The way Sandoval changes his voice when he’s attempting to sound sincere makes me nauseous

@ginatkacik486 4 ай бұрын

He never was a good actor!

@rachellaird3188 4 ай бұрын

This!!!!

@Miemers 4 ай бұрын

Right! He tried to sound sincere and profound and puts on this voice and demeanour.. but literally snaps out of it immediately when he’s faced with any bit of resistance and backlash. He did this during the reunion too. So cringy.

@taylorstewart9549 4 ай бұрын

I’ve never hated him more.

@madisonlandis7105 4 ай бұрын

THISSSD

@amiegray4419 4 ай бұрын

I never want to hear the words “like” and “dude” ever again fr😂

@kandykaye9981 4 ай бұрын

Ariana does it too. It’s very annoying.

@judithmilagro 4 ай бұрын

Dude! Like why not?! 😂😂😂😂 jk I totally agree 😂

@lindawarren6457 4 ай бұрын

And this is what like 41 or 42 - maybe 43 yo guy with every other word being like or dude. Hilarious and sad at the same time.

@debbieb5900 4 ай бұрын

Every second word is “like”. He’s 40 ffs not a teenager, but perhaps he’s lacking in vocabulary skills as much as he is in humility, sincerity and integrity

@Chloe.zyxwvu 3 ай бұрын

Wait till he’s 80 and still talking this way

@themoshposh9184 4 ай бұрын

Not Schwartz acting like Sandoval's attorney the whole podcast 🤣

@meganmichelle6174 4 ай бұрын

Right! I was thinking he was his handler.

@lindawarren6457 4 ай бұрын

And Schwartz using words incorrectly - lol He needs to get a dictionary app!!

@rebeccakelly4837 4 ай бұрын

This made me think Schwartz could be a reeeeally good producer

@AgentBlueCanary 4 ай бұрын

"I'm not here to be a Tom Sandoval apologist!" ~Apologizes for Tom Sandoval entire time~

@abbyavilaVioletVessel 3 ай бұрын

Literally !

@tiffanythompson5820 4 ай бұрын

Not Natalie bringing receipts that Nick was on time, unprovoked. Our Queen. 👏🏼

@Just-Paige 4 ай бұрын

She shines in this episode! Also telling the Toms in texting office hours they would be great at what not to say 😂

@BeautyXXBrittany 4 ай бұрын

YES!!!!!!!!!!!

@kjohnson5972 4 ай бұрын

Also I noticed her looking at the camera at one point as if to say "can you believe this guy?"

@lisehairwiz 4 ай бұрын

Seriously fucking hats off to Nat in that moment

@kranae 4 ай бұрын

Where was this part at?! Idk if I missed it

@8karolane 4 ай бұрын

The dichotomy of Schwartz being actually really articulate and Sandoval speaking like an inarticulate teenager is so funny

@meljp1652 4 ай бұрын

It's so hard to watch Sandavol speak.. Schwartz basically has to translate for him because he literally cannot string a coherent sentence together. It's like he's lying as he speaks and realises that story won't get the receiption he wants so he switches up mid sentence and just sounds like a spoilt child complaining. it's so sad cos you can see from this he really hasn't learnt anything and he will do this again.

@WishfulThinking22 4 ай бұрын

He’s not articulate. He learned some fancy words so he could slither his way out of every situation. It’s a shtick

@kellytriebwasser5001 4 ай бұрын

I don’t think that’s a schtick…. I heard kempire(psychology background) say he thought Schwartz may be undiagnosed on the spectrum for Asperger’s/autism…. And that makes perfect sense! Also ends up coming across kind of narcissistic at times, esp in relationships such as marriage! Which also makes such sense when you see what the struggles always were there:( all a bummer, hopefully can still look into and do counseling w/katie… see where it could go then….. As for Sandoval, it’s 2hard to listen where you can tell he’s struggling and point he’s wanting to get to… and he stops himself(like he’s heard over and over…. Dude you say the word like soooo many times! And he hears himself, then f f f he f’t up! How’s that? That’s what everyone wants…. And is flustered no1 can empathize or understand his experience… it’s overall sad… wish I could help

@TK-oq9yf 4 ай бұрын

Drinking game, let’s call it ‘black out’, take a shot every time Sandavol says the f word

@KL-je4ye 4 ай бұрын

@@TK-oq9yfor says “like”

@cld1101 4 ай бұрын

This. Was. PAINNNNNNNFUL to watch. How anyone can be in a relationship or friendship with him is beyond me. Sandoval lives in one world - his own.

@chrissyg9576 3 ай бұрын

Applause 👏 well said. It’s like watching and listening to a narcissist ramble on about HIS WORLD.

@Iamtierrahogan 4 ай бұрын

Him saying Nick was two hours late, and then we hear the pod was done at 6:52 - literally proves his habit for revising history.

@lindawarren6457 3 ай бұрын

Yes, I agree - and even when caught, he still does not admit that he was not telling the truth ….

@Tweettwish 3 ай бұрын

💯

@JenLauren 4 ай бұрын

natalie HUNTING DOWN her texts with nick for 20 min is the most relatable

@shiddity 4 ай бұрын

Receipts! Proof! Timeline! Screenshots! Where is Heather Gay when we need her?

@evakatz6351 4 ай бұрын

This is the craziness of being around a Narcissist. They force you into a situation where you have to provide receipts 🤦‍♀️

@HelloSailor27 4 ай бұрын

Lmao yessss defend your man

@kristinetalley9502 4 ай бұрын

Hahahaha I was dying when she brought that up so lowkey

@ambernicole9595 4 ай бұрын

ICONIC of her

@hbc.5686 4 ай бұрын

I don't know if anything has ever made me more sympathetic towards Kristen Doute than watching Tom Sandoval try to gaslight Nick with the lie that he was late to his podcast lmao

@pamorama 4 ай бұрын

Yes!

@rayahayes-mora2796 4 ай бұрын

Nick and Natalie were pulling up receipts and he still insisted he was late!

@MzEliseKatrine 4 ай бұрын

The fact that he literally straight up, said he had zero respect for her is brutal

@annaslacid4719 4 ай бұрын

similarly. Have to say that I was pleasantly surprised, watching this podcast, not having ever seen any episodes. But basically seeing him on the bachelor, I had watched I think from the second season on and wasn’t a fan of him and not too long after began to ease off watching series. he seems much more solid now

@megmur1766 Ай бұрын

@@MzEliseKatrineI mean considering that he "fell for" Rachel who is intellectually completely a 180 from Ariana. He got tired of realizing he was not the smart person in that relationship.

@kendrahines-tinsley9036 4 ай бұрын

Sandoval says he’s learned SO MUCH, bur when Nick asks, “like what?” he like literally like cannot like name a single thing like. 😂 After listening to a couple episodes of Rachel’s podcast, I think these two deserve each other. ⚡️

@billiondollarbella 4 ай бұрын

I love how much Nick really goes for the jugular but in such a subtle, professional way lol

@chelseataylorvideo 4 ай бұрын

I'm not kidding or exaggerating at all, Nick deserves a journalism award for not laughing during Tom's mini tantrums. I was dying over here. He looks so ridiculous.

@lwarren1241 4 ай бұрын

I was laughing so hard while listening and had to come to KZfaq to see their faces while he was breaking down lol.

@meljp1652 4 ай бұрын

Exactly!!! Watching Tom start throwing a hissyfit around 1 hour and 44 mins cos Nick and Natalie arnt buying his shit excuses and calling him out is soooo satisfying🎉 They both deserve an award !!

@yasminaaydemir8630 4 ай бұрын

It was actually hilarious I really enjoyed it 😂

@mariyaa111 4 ай бұрын

Imagine how many of those Ariana had to listen to ? 😂😂

@morganpalache9098 4 ай бұрын

I was laughing my ass off i was like how is anyone there keeping themselves from laughing it’s hilarious

@tazzibear86 4 ай бұрын

Sandoval has actually become so unhinged. He's either high af or something along those lines but he's so aggressive in his speech and his mannerisms.

@yuni5424 4 ай бұрын

I was thinking the same

@jillianpiontek4826 4 ай бұрын

Genuinely was thinking this the entire time, he doesn’t seem sober and this isn’t drunk behavior

@misstaylordame 4 ай бұрын

Oh he high afffff went skiing ⛷️ or heavy on the addy lol

@johannaschwarz2457 4 ай бұрын

Dude dude dude ….. grow up

@jakestroll6518 4 ай бұрын

Could he be playing up his villain arc? Even his pants are filthy here. It feels contrived but maybe he’s this lost.

@Claulma1999 4 ай бұрын

Sandoval doesn’t even seem like a real person but a character. Such a bizzare human lol

@lelbr3663 4 ай бұрын

I was thinking the same thing

@Brownskin111 3 ай бұрын

I’ve always thought this! He’s always sooo dramatic like he’s always acting…it’s exhausting

@xxAlexixx88 4 ай бұрын

I LOVED the portion with just Schwartz. I’d love another episode with just him! He’s so much better when it’s just him.

@samanthawinters3106 3 ай бұрын

Totally agree! Very happily suprised with Schwartz!

@sunnyboknow 3 ай бұрын

I really like Schwatz 😊

@suzanneb9477 2 ай бұрын

Schwartz is trash

@ericascharf8711 Ай бұрын

I wish he recognized that lol

@logan_kindt 4 ай бұрын

1. Natalie shined. Her wit and intellect showed through 2. Nick finally saw what everyone has seen after watching Tom on VPR for 10 yrs 3. Schwartz really is a battered wife, but not from Katie

@Aquamoongirl13 4 ай бұрын

i am so glad nick is starting to see it... he has a long way to go in VPR lol

@sademcsween6831 4 ай бұрын

This!

@elizabethlunde9278 4 ай бұрын

Sad but true!

@KS-hi8vi 4 ай бұрын

Schwartz bought Sandoval a ring. Sandoval never liked Katie.

@tshidig 4 ай бұрын

Your take is💯

@HGEL1 4 ай бұрын

The absolute lack of accountability, deflection, blaming, egotistical, narcissistic behaviour, shows he has not changed and never will. He is absolutely on something here as well.

@sramosdaron 4 ай бұрын

Yes! Absolutely! But, ‘she hasn’t had *** with me for a year’. What a BUM!

@1234greengrapeyum 4 ай бұрын

Facts!!! Be a NICK not a TOM.

@vickymueller6846 4 ай бұрын

The gaslighting he was doing to Nick about being late to Tom’s show was appalling. Hard to listen to.

@NelleVillamea 4 ай бұрын

I love how nick kept trying to get him to name ONE thing he worked on and changed. Sandoval couldn't name one. When asked what he would do or change in a next relationship he said finding someone who doesn't belittle him. Nothing about how he's changed. He's ridiculous. I don't know how Nick kept it together during this interview. Good job Nick, I would have ate into him.

@jennacoelho1548 4 ай бұрын

That's the thing, those with NPD don't change and will never take accountability for their actions. He just fully exposed hisself and let his mask slip for the world to see in this interview though. I pray any future women who thinks of being with him sees this interview first before getting into a relationship with a monster. Narcissists are extremely dangerous and will tear you apart from the inside out... emotionally, spiritually, psychologically, monetarily, and many times physically!

@0rangekat 4 ай бұрын

Tom: “I get paid way more for like instagram posts” Natalie: “Still?💀” Tom: No😔

@user-hl9gq6yf9q 4 ай бұрын

So Sandoval says “call me at 3am and I’ll bail you out of jail” but can’t answer the phone mid day for the podcast he’s a guest on

@kyylamarie 4 ай бұрын

this was so irritating on a tuesday morning - the blatant deflecting and lying about being late, him repeating every question so defensively, telling ariana she has a bad look is RICH coming from him, basically saying he should be credited for her success and she should be grateful while simultaneously saying he’s rooting for her (obviously not), schwartz trying to cut him off and defend him so that sandavol doesn’t keep digging his own grave - it was so unbearable. idk how im gonna get thru this season. he will really never change

@angelsplace 4 ай бұрын

I know! 😂 But... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r76il9R_2Mi-XZc.htmlsi=3m06gSPm_ofMO7K_

@Alyssa-ye2co 4 ай бұрын

Agreed

@jaquievargas8832 4 ай бұрын

It's terrible he will never learn.@@Alyssa-ye2co

@rayellelujan1738 4 ай бұрын

This 😅 usually love the pod makes the day go by faster feel like this made my morning 700 times slower

@simonewever5610 4 ай бұрын

Agree, the commentend about the therapy that Ariana should have know. That is bullshit. If he had wannted to break up he should have told her and not make shitty excuses. It is like a bancrobber saying that the bank should have know hé would rob the bank.

@sharonnnnnnnnnn1 4 ай бұрын

Schwartz’s first words about Katie “she’s judgmental.” Schwartz’s first words about Sandoval “he’s a good guy.” Always so quick to defend Sandoval, or anyone, over Katie

@buffytvs73 4 ай бұрын

before he called her judgmental, he said she was a hater! WTF is wrong with him?! You have an excellent point, What Schwartz said about Katie versus what he said about Tom. Tom and Tom should just get married!

@pamorama 4 ай бұрын

Yup, I thought the same thing.

@xkellie79able 4 ай бұрын

Truth!! He’s always been like that! It’s like he can’t connect the umbilical cord from sandovals!! I don’t get it! Schwartz does seem like he COULD be a good man! If he rid himself of sandovals baggage he would probably feel lighter and attract more people and make TRUE FRIENDS. Like people like have his back without Sandoval dragging him down. Sandoval is Schwartz’s anchor. My hope is he will see the light and I have a hard time thinking or believing he will cut the cord. It’s really sad. I give Schwartz shir about being up sandovals ass but I do enjoy listening to Schwartz speak! He is a wordsmith and I love that about him. So much smarter than he reveals.

@xkellie79able 4 ай бұрын

@@buffytvs73I mean cut the cord.. ugh sorry everyone who probably won’t even read this. Lol

@karendionne2228 4 ай бұрын

Respectfully, I disagree. Birds of a feather flock together. Have you taken note to how he spoke to his ex wife Katie? She has her faults, but 10 out of 10 times he sidex with anyone else over her.@@xkellie79able

@sallyfletcher4650 4 ай бұрын

The juxtaposition of Schwartz being so articulate and on PR patrol with Sandoval when all Sandoval used to do was talk over Schwartz and try to speak over him lol

@mia54317 4 ай бұрын

Nick and Natalie absolutely crushed this interview!!! so professional, such thoughtful and articulate questions, and managed to perfectly control the flow of the interview where other hosts probably would have gotten lost in the chaos and got off track. You always ask the questions people ACTUALLY want to know, as opposed to a lot of other podcasts that land big guests (other hosts often seem too intimated to ask hard questions)...never disappoints! This podcast deserves all the success it is having!

@lullabyautumns 4 ай бұрын

4 things I loved about this: 1. Sandoval freaking out when Nick is just asking a question for clarification 2. Nick and Natalie giving each other little looks throughout the conversation 3. Tom Schwartz, trying not to laugh at Sandoval 4. Sandoval trying to take on Schwartz's personality to sound nicer and failing to keep it going for more than 5 seconds before sounding abrasive

@tshidig 4 ай бұрын

It was classic watching Nick and Natalie tag team him. Highlight of the entire brutal experience. My years are still ringing.

@mia-mia27 4 ай бұрын

Love this. So true and very perceptive. I wonder if he’d even notice how bad he looks

@katefrick9389 4 ай бұрын

“DO YOU THINK YOU ARE ENTITLED TO HER REASONABLENESS?” Say that again for the people in the back, Nick! 👏🏼👏🏼

@ShanaPruitt 4 ай бұрын

I created a KZfaq account for the sole purpose of liking this comment. He was unhinged on a whole new level today.

@loveyou3000__ 4 ай бұрын

Loved this. 💡

@katefrick9389 4 ай бұрын

@@ShanaPruitt this comment made my day! Hilarious!!!! 😂😂😂

@pamorama 4 ай бұрын

Seriously a mic drop moment.

@reneelouise6984 4 ай бұрын

Agreed! 👏👏👏

@parisg.8093 2 ай бұрын

“I’ve learned to not cheat _THAT_ way” tells me he has learned absolutely nothing.

@thewrenchwoman Ай бұрын

He said he would cheat if their sex life didn't get better in one of the solo interviews. I need his exact quote bit is damn near just like that. Right then and there, I knew it was a matter of time.

@leahbia82 4 ай бұрын

Sandoval was HIGH AF. I love near the end, nick asking him wtf he's doing and he says "I'm f*cked!" 😂 Yeah you are.

@Orangesky3818 4 ай бұрын

Nick is so iconic for this. This is the interview I've been waiting for. He never let him off the hook. This is just textbook narcissism

@loveyou3000__ 4 ай бұрын

Second the "this is the interview I've been waiting for". I honestly don't think anyone could have done a better job than, Nick and Natalie. LOVE THAT NATALIE'S there!

@ellabergquist8741 4 ай бұрын

Agreed! I'd actually like to know why Nick says that he thinks Sandavol ISN'T a narcissist

@marissacooper2085 4 ай бұрын

I think after this interview he would say Tom is lol

@StellaOcegueraa 4 ай бұрын

I LOLd when Schwartz said “I’m not trying to be a Sandoval apologist “ but was in fact apologizing for Sandoval the whole time 😂😂

@anne2516 4 ай бұрын

Literally providing caveats and additions to everythingggg sando said… these two are something else.

@LindseyR23 4 ай бұрын

Schwartz is like his PR guy. It’s gross

@10113sarah 4 ай бұрын

I think he loves his friend and knows Tom sucks at communication especially when he’s frustrated / on something so he was trying to help

@ryandudenhoeffer4479 4 ай бұрын

Facts and he literally chose Tom over his wife!!!

@erinchavez1545 4 ай бұрын

@@ryandudenhoeffer4479she was not really worth staying married too. Katie is the worst (self righteous, high mighty selfish person) & that’s saying a lot because Sandoval is alive.

@ClaimScout 4 ай бұрын

The low “authentic voice” is actually crazy 😂

@giant_rat7781 8 күн бұрын

I saw the comments about it before I got to it and omg it’s so much worse than I thought

@shelby6144 4 ай бұрын

Sandoval just gaslights Schwartz so he’ll stay by his side, saying how awesome he is and how much he loves him… it’s weird and seems like there’s a motive behind it. And his face when Schwartz and Nick are bonding is just hilarious. The jealousy is wild

@promiseblanchard4468 4 ай бұрын

I think Sandoval is threatened by Nick. Same age group, but nick has a more successful podcast, better image, and isn’t allergic to growth. I think that was the whole point of him being late was some sort of “power” move

@Goddess_era13 4 ай бұрын

Could not agree more. Excellent points

@HeidiBannerman 4 ай бұрын

Absolutely! That’s the exact vibe I got. I enjoyed watching him squirm. Sorry, Sandoval, that’s what a man with integrity looks like.

@user-bd7xv5sm5y 4 ай бұрын

This and Nick even had a villain era and rebranded. Tom is so triggered by him

@kjohnson5972 4 ай бұрын

100000 percent

@user-ew5pc8gf4k 4 ай бұрын

It was his teenage mind saying, he was late for me so I'll be late for him. Pathetic and petty loser.

@tuxaquene5474 4 ай бұрын

Sandoval - "I don't want to dishonor Ariana, but hold my beer." Schwartz - "I'm not here to make excuses for Sandoval, but hold my beer."

@loveyou3000__ 4 ай бұрын

Seriously 😂

@Nous520 4 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@kristinfellhauer5852 4 ай бұрын

Nick deserves an award for keeping it together! We know why you didn’t ask Sandoval the same question.., he got tired of listening to bs. Lol every word out his mouth was bs… also when he’d just drift off in a word vomit about nothing that had to do with the question. “What happiness look like to you?” “My mom got me this ornament that’s so ugly but she puts it up for me …..” what the eff are you talking about?!?! 😂😂😂

@AgentBlueCanary 4 ай бұрын

So I interpreted that as Tom still being drunk and the molly/shrooms not totally wearing off, which led to Tom actually giving a genuine answer about what his personal vision of happiness was, and he expressed nostalgia for a pure little American family who loves each other and has traditions. Yet, he dedicates his existence to being a fuckboy, so he'll never get it. The tragedy of Tom.

@sam11297 4 ай бұрын

Nick should replace Andy for all Bravo reunions!! He’d kill it, especially with the Housewives.

@leeleeformeemee 4 ай бұрын

OMG YES!!!!!!

@abbyavilaVioletVessel 3 ай бұрын

Truuu

@Thedanishgiirl 3 ай бұрын

Or Love is blind host

@dawnmariemartha Ай бұрын

Please god no.

@heatherpryor3430 25 күн бұрын

Totally agree!!

@selenadonker 4 ай бұрын

The sad (and disappointing) thing of all of this, is that Nick wants Tom Sandoval (both Tom’s) to be able to be understood, have second chances, and share their stories/struggles. Nick knows what it is like to be shown as a villain and empathetic to those who make mistakes, but to learn from them. The fact that Tom Sandoval didn’t use this opportunity, shows his true character. I feel sorry that he doesn’t realize any better. Schwartz on the other hand takes accountability & acknowledges faults/mistakes.

@julesb1970 4 ай бұрын

Exactly! I have a lot more respect for Swartz after listening to him, he took total accountability, he articulates himself really well as for Sandoval quite the opposite, yes he says the things people want to hear but it doesn't come across sincere and he still has to put out there excuse and place blame on Ariana.

@jessd2909 4 ай бұрын

And he gave them multiple chances to really dig deep and reflect and they’re unable to

@Sunshine134_ 4 ай бұрын

Yeah, Sleazeval is bad news.

@dr_power. 4 ай бұрын

Am I the only one who noticed Sandoval was struggling? He is not ok. It wasn’t a good time to confront him. I felt uncomfortable watching him get challenged when it seemed he was having trouble holding it together. I think he forgot about the podcast, was on something, and may even have been having difficulties beforehand.

@emilieiggiotti 4 ай бұрын

Nailed it. I was actually shocked to see Schwartz taking accountability and trying to reframe what Sandoval is saying, and help him.

@KJS0898 4 ай бұрын

The way Nick and Natalie handled this podcast shows they are more than ready to be parents 😂 y’all will crush your child’s teenage years and their emotional rollercoasters and impulsivity

@jericamintzer9888 4 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@HelloSailor27 4 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@eyanandaahmed308 4 ай бұрын

honestly tho!

@_Murpho_ 4 ай бұрын

“She hit the breakup lottery”…… The worm with a mustache has entered 2024

@michelletrahan9850 4 ай бұрын

He’s not sorry. He keeps digging his own grave. He’s a mess. Holy shit.

@roxanemontegna9867 3 ай бұрын

The grave keeps getting deeper too!

@camillacrawford 4 ай бұрын

This interview was more unhinged than all 10 seasons of VPR put together

@ningyding 4 ай бұрын

LOL TOTALLY

@Gr33x 4 ай бұрын

It was absolutely mania

@rachaelrome 4 ай бұрын

Yeah it needs to win an Emmy

@rachaelrome 4 ай бұрын

💀💀💀 out of control

@bt2598 4 ай бұрын

Schwartz should go into PR the way he kept speaking for Sandoval.

@emilyaltom628 4 ай бұрын

What’s wild is he usually really sucks at interviews himself lol. But he’s the better of the two, for sure. He kept trying to reframe everything Sandoval said 😂

@NICMACYO 4 ай бұрын

He literally reframed any and all for Sandoval, it’s like alarming to watch honestly lol

@2mis2TL86 4 ай бұрын

@@emilyaltom628lmao when they proved Nick wasn’t late and Schwartz saw he was wrong so he says “let’s pivot back to our topic”

@alisonkent2217 4 ай бұрын

Exactly! That’s what I was thinking. Very often in this interview Schwartz tried to bail out Sandoval from digging himself a deeper hole, as PR agents do LOL. He did a good job of it a lot of the time too. I feel bad that Schwartz has had to take on that role as Sandoval’s friend.

@buffytvs73 4 ай бұрын

Schwartz does it without even thinking it’s like breathing for him.

@kendalynnn 4 ай бұрын

Shwartz looks like the sober friend trying to not throw his unsober friend under the bus and save the situation to make them both look okay

@mtpckets 4 ай бұрын

Spot on

@dubyabalthazar4598 4 ай бұрын

Not looks...it's exactly wuts happening

@janne188 4 ай бұрын

I will just say that I have always respected how well spoken and articulate Tom Schwartz is.

@joannaLeboy 2 ай бұрын

I could listen to him talk all day.. I think he’s very intelligent and I love intellectual humor .

@SydneyKong 4 ай бұрын

“His assistant resigned last week” TEAAAAA INTERESTING

@amytaylor3535 4 ай бұрын

poor Anne😂

@Babygottaeat249 4 ай бұрын

I knew we were gonna be in for a whirlwhind pasta'd out bender sandoval appearance

@echenton 4 ай бұрын

Can you even imagine being his assistant?!

@candy07831 4 ай бұрын

Nick’s former employee Amanda & Tom’s former assistant Ann now have a podcast together

@SydneyKong 4 ай бұрын

@@candy07831 teaaaa reallly ? What’s it called

@kristenfreiburger1000 4 ай бұрын

Nick tried so hard to help him in this interview, but of course he just saw it as an attack and spent the whole time defending his actions. Tom S is so clueless!! This is why I wanted Nick to do this interview in the first place. Well done, Nick, on not letting him deflect and talk around every issue.

@mallorybarnett1750 4 ай бұрын

I love how u said Tom S like both of their last names don’t start with an S

@kristenfreiburger1000 4 ай бұрын

@@mallorybarnett1750 bahahahaha, good point LOL. S = Sandoval in this case.

@cassiajade 4 ай бұрын

Sandoval didn’t make a single complete sentence this whole podcast.

@cassiajade 3 ай бұрын

@@zingyflaps7757 like bro, it’s like dude, like i’m like, it’s been, man i dont even know what to say dude.

@farahnadiyaya 4 ай бұрын

Sandoval saying it's not a good look about Ariana being spiteful to him actually backfired and not a good look to him...

@joannaLeboy 2 ай бұрын

Eh he’s right though

@fandm_fun504 15 күн бұрын

@@joannaLeboyyeah but she wasn’t being spiteful, he’s just deflecting

@always-positivity 13 күн бұрын

He’s the last person in the world to be telling someone else that it’s “not a good look.” People should be doing the opposite of whatever Sandoval says, thinks or does.

@tford4588 3 күн бұрын

@@joannaLeboy He’s really not lol

@tigerlover9825 4 ай бұрын

Does it irritate anyone else that Sandoval deflects him being late onto Nick being "late" for his podcast without giving any details? AND the fact that he's wearing sunglasses inside?? Just hearing him talk is frustrating me.

@Alyssa-ye2co 4 ай бұрын

Sameeee

@amberrrrrrr5117 4 ай бұрын

Ugh so gross of him! He just sucks!!

@penelopegarcia1650 4 ай бұрын

He is like nails on a chalkboard. The second hand embarrassment I feel watching this is almost unbearable. It would have been better if he had never shown up. Also making up lies about Nick showing up late is so gross, he is delusional and actually believes his lies.

@moongurl1978 4 ай бұрын

Then why watch? To complain? Idgi

@amberrrrrrr5117 4 ай бұрын

@@moongurl1978 I watched to see if there was finally going to be any accountability from him for being a gross human and because it is entertaining after all

@kerink12 4 ай бұрын

“Do you think you’re entitled to her reasonable-ness” is the best question you could have asked him. He didn’t get it, but it sums up all of the reasons he needs therapy.

@Maggieroselee 4 ай бұрын

He 100% blames Ariana for treating him badly for 9 years (?)..... and he still is lying about the 8 months he was with Rachel. Sandoval still does not understand. Like like like like dude dude like like dude dude dude dude like OMG !

@joannaLeboy 2 ай бұрын

I have to agree with him though when it comes to Ariana:: she did suck in the relationship.

@riyadubai 2 ай бұрын

Still doesn’t give him the right to cheat, lie to her and make her susceptible to STDs @@joannaLeboy

@sophiebundgaard4781 2 ай бұрын

@@joannaLeboy do you know them personally?

@fandm_fun504 15 күн бұрын

@@joannaLeboyTom dear you don’t need to come with another account

@juliekenner9888 4 ай бұрын

Nick handled this interview beautifully.

@TMM-Today 4 ай бұрын

Sandoval “Dude, I suck, man” Nick “Not with the pity party” Keep him in line, Nick!😂😂

@bellafielden4974 4 ай бұрын

The fact Sandavol is low-key getting aggressive towards Natalie is pissing me off, like don’t raise your voice at her like that, shut up!

@jawjaw00 4 ай бұрын

He has no respect for women.

@lille-mary1517 4 ай бұрын

Right! Unfortunately not surprised. That is often the knee jerk reaction for a person with too many typical narcissistic personality traits (NOT saying he is diagnosed with NPD, just that he reels of many of the TYPICAL personality traits you also display with that). To go to the attack, look down upon or scare by raising their voice, gaslight, deny, shift focus, be TOTALLY lacking in accountability or self awareness, always leading with ego and entitlement. It all reeks from him when adressing her, and talking about his ex. The blame shifting instead of just taking accountability and say, THERE ARE NO EXCUSES valid enough. It is constant. He is not treatable I suspect. He has shown zero growth or ability to JUST take accountability from then to now. So 🤷🏼‍♀️

@trudyparrish3934 4 ай бұрын

He has no respect for anyone but himself IMO

@Nous520 4 ай бұрын

@@jawjaw00ZERO. You’re right. He’s such a weasel worm (with a moustache)

@Urmomlovesyoutube 4 ай бұрын

Imagine Ariana staying with him for that long… Does she take any accountability for being with such a POS for so long? 🤣

@donnacassidy1158 4 ай бұрын

Nick - you killed it……..You handled it so well. Tom Schwartz please look at this relationship. You are being used and you are enabling his crazy arrogant narcissistic behavior. You are better than that…….

@joannaLeboy 2 ай бұрын

He’s not being used??? TF? Weird take

@SJ_Kravitz_602 4 ай бұрын

Thank you, Nick, for holding Sandoval accountable. He hasn't and will not change. The same egotistical, disrespectful, and unprofessional creep as always.

@TheMegNickerson 4 ай бұрын

Natalie observing this madness is my favorite part 😂💀 her trying to hide her facial expressions

@briannapinkney4966 4 ай бұрын

I wanna see those texts to whomever she’s texting 😂

@saraphillips115 4 ай бұрын

there’s no way sandoval is sober in this. he is completely unhinged. the Sandoval interview we’ve been BEGGING for

@user-ef5id9km3p 4 ай бұрын

if you know sandoval, you will know this is his normal "unhinged" aka narcissistic self. he's sober af dude.

@brittbc4215 4 ай бұрын

Meth is one helluva drug

@seraphinalewin8012 4 ай бұрын

He is not sober here @@user-ef5id9km3p

@mamameg9916 4 ай бұрын

He was drunk the night before… partied well into the morning hours at his house, according to Kristin’s man

@wkimbra 4 ай бұрын

Nick, thanks for not letting him off without questioning his every comment. He is infuriating. This was the hardest to watch.

@irishsphynx 4 ай бұрын

Anyone notice that Tom is the one bitching constantly about Arianna saying she’s the one bitching about him 😂

@jamiejoonks 2 ай бұрын

Seriously, I never see her talking about him unless she has to to promote the new VPR season

@SydneyKong 4 ай бұрын

I think I want them to bring back Schwartz as a guest but on his own and have him have a solo episode because I actually enjoyed him as a guest. Like the way nick and Natalie and tom were talking and interacting before Sandoval got there was actually really good and I actually enjoyed it. I don't know

@jennifer6833 4 ай бұрын

I agree, I’d like to see Schwartz on his own solo podcast with Nick. He was phenomenal.

@SydneyKong 4 ай бұрын

@@jennifer6833 the way he was answering questions I thought it was good. I want more of this

@mrsstyles10002 4 ай бұрын

I also want to hear what he has to say when Sandoval isn’t right there breathing over his shoulder! Schwartz caters to Sandoval & what he wants to hear when he’s around but I feel like he feels differently & even more levelheaded when other Tom isn’t around !

@cynjim88 4 ай бұрын

YES…. Sandoval ruined this.. He also needs to stop going on podcasts he doesn’t have any self awareness

@suzweinstein 4 ай бұрын

Me too! I really liked the bit of time it was just him. Shows how much Sandra T really influences him.

@simplyjules8172 4 ай бұрын

When Sandoval said “it’s not a good look” about Ariana being spiteful. Lmao. He is SUCH a narcissist. 🤦🏻‍♀️😒🥲

@sh.boogies 4 ай бұрын

Nick is convinced he's not...lmao

@reneelouise6984 4 ай бұрын

Right! That got me too! Talk about tone def, nothing about you or anything you say or do is a good look dumb a$%!!!

@jordan.42 4 ай бұрын

@@sh.boogiesbc he’s not 😂 yall just throw around these serious ass terms so now they have 0 meaning it’s fkn annoying

@fandm_fun504 15 күн бұрын

@@jordan.42ok so he’s just a trash human being ok

@blahh9909 4 ай бұрын

I just can’t believe no one’s mentioning Tom Sandoval stating Ariana was the first girl he actually respected….like WHAT

@user-bb1bl6gx1i 4 ай бұрын

Almost everything Sandoval said was horrific. No growth there. Sad.

@katestimac4210 4 ай бұрын

Tom was so much worse than I thought was possible. Oof.

@TheFrancoPhiler 4 ай бұрын

Not Sandoval playing every single trick in his roster, from meltdown to deflecting to over-explaining without meaning to gaslighting to aggression, and Schwartz folding immediately while Nick is patiently waiting for him to cut the shit

@analizeth78 4 ай бұрын

Schwartz can't be his own person and/or contradict Scumdoval because he has to be the loudest in the room. He needs the attention and all eyes on him. Schwartz will always agree with Scumdoval and hide his real opinion. Scumdoval can never take accountability which is why he always told everyone that. He could never say sorry without a but after so it was never genuine. Schwartz let Scumdoval tell him what he should do, he shit talked Katie to him and Ariana. Scumdoval was jealous he didn't have his full attention till he did and even then was mad at Katie for leaving his friend. He was/is such a narcissist. It's disgusting

@tshidig 4 ай бұрын

This interview was reality TV poetry in motion. Nick handled everyone in that room brilliantly. His tone, his approach, his attitude towards outbursts, his persistence in getting answers.

@irishheart6313 4 ай бұрын

Let’s see if Sandoval keeps his word and sells the house!

@tshidig 4 ай бұрын

@@irishheart6313 I know right? Nothing this guy says actually sticks so...idk. We'll see.

@lauralc1027 4 ай бұрын

Tom Schwartz sits there next to Sandoval just EMBARRASSED of him 99% of the time.

@lorir5728 8 сағат бұрын

He looks so uncomfortable. When sandy talks about the ugly Xmas ornament and then out of nowhere he talks about the ring Schwartz gave him right in the middle of Schwartz answering a question that had nothing to do with a ring he got in Vegas. Lol mushrooms.

@lindsayleavittxo 4 ай бұрын

I didn’t even want to watch this but someone was like NO, watch it!! Nick stands up for what’s right and doesn’t hold back with Sandoval, doesn’t baby him or go out of his way to kiss his ass. Wow they were right!! Thank you Nick!! 🙏🏻❤️

@skrtskrrrttt8940 4 ай бұрын

Cool story thanks for sharing super enlightening

@lindsayleavittxo 4 ай бұрын

@@skrtskrrrttt8940 you’re welcome

@kimberlee17 4 ай бұрын

Without a doubt, Tom Sandoval is “not sober” here. His late arrival, his body language, random topic diversions, etc make this undeniable. This is more than “not sleeping” the night before. As a VPR fan from the start, this behavior is odd, at best. Also, Schwartz’s attempts to save him were GLARING on the watch. This was not as apparent on the listen. #unhinged This was really difficult to see.

@chelseabradley2118 4 ай бұрын

I hope he doesn’t start losing weight again. Like him or not he’s a human and addiction is scary

@Brookexoxoxo 4 ай бұрын

Yeah he’s on something for sure.

@user-jv6pj8vk6b 4 ай бұрын

Kristen Doute said her husband was at Sandoval's drinking the night before this podcast.

@kayleedawn828 4 ай бұрын

He’s hungover/drunkish and high. It’s wildly immature and unprofessional and I feel bad that Schwartz feels the need to protect him FROM HIMSELF. This interview was disturbing

@sarahmauricio9699 4 ай бұрын

I was wondering when he was going to take those glasses off too.

@BridgetJonesDiary 4 ай бұрын

The fact that Nick and Tom are in the same age group but light years apart in maturity is crazy to see. Thank you Nick for putting up with Tom for this interview. You did a great job ❤

@lazylurker2842 4 ай бұрын

The way Tom was always trynna get Ariana pregnant like as if he'd be a good parent

@jkayc311 4 ай бұрын

I am SO ecstatic that you guys held these guys accountable!!!!!!!! FINALLY

@lindawarren6457 4 ай бұрын

Schwartz so loyal to Sandoval - too bad he did not show that same loyalty for his ex-wife

@minnymouse243 4 ай бұрын

When it was just Tom Schwartz I really didn’t mind it, Sandoval really did prove he’s still chillin being a villain, but Nick did a phenomenal job shutting his bullshit down - a big thank you to Nick for not putting up with all the lies and shitting on Ariana lol

@meljp1652 4 ай бұрын

Ohhh I so glad Nick shit his BS down!!! I was putting off watching it cos I didn't wanna see Tom spin his crap and self putting liesand not have anyone actually call him out . I'm watching it now🎉 So glad we have Nick!!!!

@bayleyandrade2698 4 ай бұрын

Oh my god The disrespect Sandoval is showing Nick. I can’t.

@allysonreilly 4 ай бұрын

And at one point he bit at Natalie- I was ready for Nick to go in on him.

@allysonreilly 4 ай бұрын

@@blueraven596 They probably don't know what to do, hes so far gone.

@frankandjessicacorzo-tk9fi 3 ай бұрын

Tom being late is another example of how he hasn’t changed. Passive aggressive way of expressing his anger towards someone because he doesn’t have the skill or self awareness to express himself assertively (like breaking up with Ariana and expressing his real emotions toward nick like being made that nick was late to his podcast or feeling worried about doing the interview). Can we also talk about how he has build some fucken phenomenal defenses that are seriously keeping him from having self-awareness and growing. I hope he has a good therapist and he sticks through it. As much as I want to have some empathy for him he makes it so hard because he continues to victimize himself so much. Every interview, I already know….cue the tiny violen!

@tarenmiller4178 4 ай бұрын

Nick is correct that people-pleasing is related to narcissism. It’s a socially acceptable way to be selfish. Because people-pleasing means you’re (perhaps unintentionally) manipulating people into not being displeased with you by doing what they want. It’s not authentic. Many of us are people-pleasers and it’s something for us to work on and acknowledge as very unhealthy behaviour.

@roxanemontegna9867 3 ай бұрын

People pleasing sometimes starts in childhood when navigating with one or more Narcissistic Parent. Survival!

@AAAToturn17 4 ай бұрын

This unfortunately reaffirmed my belief that Schwartz sucks and has no sense of identity. As Nick said this was his opportunity to just be himself and allow us to see him outside of an edited show and reflect. He answered no questions, panicked, complained, and then retracted the complaining. His desire to people please and come across a certain way is painful to watch. Anyway, shoutout to the household for trying to have a quality interview and maintaining your patience b/c I'm sure it took a lot.

@delite718 4 ай бұрын

Schwartz is a turd. I don't know what else to call him. He is awful to Katie and it can't be that the camera only captured the few bad times. And him being Sandoval's buddy yet talking smack about him around others - Schwartz is a turd.

@ChromeDrone. 4 ай бұрын

I think Schwartz was honestly there to try to do damage control for Sandoval, and therefore for their business. Sucks for them that Lisa was able to capitalize on their brand with TomTom and make great money from the association when their image was good, but that S&S is now sinking for the same association. Toms - maybe don't name your business after yourselves and make its creation a major plot point on your reality show if you don't want its commercial success linked to "one's actions in one's personal life" (which are also on the show)

@meljp1652 4 ай бұрын

I liked Nick before....I fkn LOOOVVVEEE him now!!!! The way he held both Tom's accountable and called their shit.... finally someone did!! And the sheer distaste you can read on his face.

@lindawarren6457 4 ай бұрын

Finally someone properly asking the logical questions!!!!

@user-bb1bl6gx1i 4 ай бұрын

I cheered for Nick when he stood up for Katy! Nick's comment of Katy being opinionated was endearing and right verses Schwartz's negative comment about his ex.

@ABar83376 4 ай бұрын

I love how Nick makes them explain everything they say.

@Hernamewaslolac 4 ай бұрын

This interview needs to be required views for psychology students and professionals in the field of narcissistic personality disorder.

@jelemil 4 ай бұрын

And codependency could be for aa and al-anon too they’re the picture of it 🙃

@imapotatooe 4 ай бұрын

What I would really love to see is Nick And Natalie's conversation on the way home from this day of work 🤣

@livbeilein1969 4 ай бұрын

Can we get an episode following this dumpster fire of just Nick & Natalie’s after thoughts?

@selenadonker 4 ай бұрын

They said in the beginning of the pod they are 😏 They are waiting for us (the audience) to react and to see the comments

@buffytvs73 4 ай бұрын

YESSSSS!!! Brilliant idea! Maybe if enough people ask they will do it.

@michaelathompson3310 4 ай бұрын

Please!!!!!

@tina6442 4 ай бұрын

@@selenadonkerI can’t wait. Cause Natalie has poker face the way I’d have pulled out my own pair of sunglasses to hide my expressions…

@Story-pm5pg 4 ай бұрын

!!!!

@bree6719 4 ай бұрын

Tom: “just seeing you in the infinity pool, man” ok so that’s him having Schwartz’s back. That’s Sandoval appreciating his friend despite all the times he’s hurt his friend put him in difficult situations with his marriage to Katie, the cost blowouts on their restaurant projects, forcing him to kiss his lover and hide his secrets. But “yeah man you in the infinity pool, so cool”

@AnaPerez-tk4fr 4 ай бұрын

Seeing the second hand embarrassing on Shwarts face is priceless

@Raisingstandarts 4 ай бұрын

I met Tom Schwartz at Schwartz and Sandy’s in August of 2023. The bar was absolutely dead and Schwartz was literally so kind and engaging and you can tell he really is passionate about his bar. So sad to see him so blindly loyal to Sandoval to the point it’s affected all areas of his life.

@KS-hi8vi 4 ай бұрын

Of course he loves the Bar he put all his $$ in it. But he’s an A$$ like Sandoval. He didn’t have to be so mean to Katie. He did it in fun and enjoyed hurting her.

@jakestroll6518 4 ай бұрын

I’m surprised it’s empty. I thought the attention would drive up the customers. Sandoval needs to start going to socialise there too. People will go just to meet him. As long as there’s a one drink rule or an entry fee the trolls will control themselves.

@coolbeanz2606 4 ай бұрын

@@jakestroll6518nah no one wants to meet him if anything they want to see it like crash a burn just like his shows him socializing there will just be worse

@bessielowe1045 4 ай бұрын

Him continuing to lie that Nick arrived late so deflect from him arriving late is just so telling. He can never just take responsibility and accept that he is in the wrong.

@brittbc4215 4 ай бұрын

As a recovering alcoholic and addict (500 days clean today!!!) I genuinely believe that Tom didn’t realize he was late for the podcast, Meth and Coke will have the day RUNNING by and you don’t even realize it. Sad. Get help Tom.

@kristywrightson4031 4 ай бұрын

No one addressing the fact that Tom’s an addict . He couldn’t sit still in the relationship and was always out partying. - he also looked high on this podcast- he has some deep soul searching to do and would benefit from getting sober .

@iamheatheranne 4 ай бұрын

Tell me you aren't sober without telling me you aren't sober.

@insanebehavior864 4 ай бұрын

❄️❄️❄️❄️❄️

@jessicasullivan4255 4 ай бұрын

Not a single sentence without “like” or “dude”. Barely coherent. He seems either not sober in that moment or just missing too many brain cells from years of use

@nylal493 4 ай бұрын

It’s like Sandoval is allergic to accountability. If Ariana was treating him poorly, then he would have been absolutely justified in ending the relationship maturely. There is no justification for the way he went about it.

@sofiaguzman9282 4 ай бұрын

29:56

@marianjones4398 4 ай бұрын

He needs to spin every damn thing. It is astounding. He will never grow or learn a lesson without intensive therapy.

@seven92023 4 ай бұрын

The same argument can be made the other way though. If Ariana was so unhappy with Sandoval she could've left him at any point during the 9 years. They were both too afraid to leave the other because they are tied financially. It took an affair for her to leave him.

@nylal493 4 ай бұрын

@@seven92023Oml the Ariana haters always got something like this to say. We’re not talking about Ariana right now, we’re talking about Tom and his decision to have an affair.

@ginatkacik486 4 ай бұрын

Thats true, but then he would have had to display a degree of maturity that he just doesn't have.

@storiesandjourneys3155 4 ай бұрын

Tell me you have a personality disorder without telling me you have a personality disorder.

@starlightmckennah5241 4 ай бұрын

A+++ Entertainment!!!! This was both hilarious and horrific. Rolling on the floor laughing. This did not disappoint 😂😂😂

@GENBECCAM 4 ай бұрын

Gaslighting nick about being late is scary. I do think he is a dangerous person. This worries me about watching VPR

@lille-mary1517 4 ай бұрын

I actually hope that this shows Nick that his often showed stance that he wants to see everyone getting a second chance, get to share their side of the story, or see them as able to grow/change. Is NOT something that works for a category of people. They only use the chance to give their side of the story to further tell lies, give new excuses, tries to shift blame or manipulate. Again. And that he can let go of the thought that EVERYONE can change or grow. No, not if you belong to that category of person(ality). Because as he can see now (hopefully), he (Sandoval) don’t have that ability to self reflext or lead with empathy or self awareness, he can’t see how wrong he is, because when it comes down to it, he is too entitled and don’t tjonk he is so wrong. So why would he be able to ”get it” and grow? There is a reason that ppl that treat ppl like him (SORRY, similar to his personality traits) say that it is almost impossible to make them that much better, perhaps a few %. But the problem is, as soon as they bump in to certain issues or situations in life, they revert back to their entitled, manipulative, totally selfish world view. Again. The definition of ”hopeless case”. But I get we don’t want to think that some people can’t change. But we perhaps must accept when they won’t or when we should stop giving 2, 3, 4:th chances for people to excuse, explain away sh*t. And just see that if ppl are giving chances to change, but the same behavior continues, WE are being manipulated. So to then think, ”but he/she can change” is just a fools arrend to stick to. After we’ve gotten the proof of the opposite. Maybe it is ok to say, I give up, I have no reason to believe they can or want to change. So, bye!

@lolacookie453 4 ай бұрын

He is amped up, aggressive, defensive and avoiding eye contact, it’s not giving sober

@xxandreaxx298 4 ай бұрын

Most definitely railed a few lines before going

@bfenwickx3 4 ай бұрын

I love that you called Sandoval out on his bullshit. He never takes accountability, always tries to turn the attention to someone else. He’s just a tool.

@gracecashman1795 4 ай бұрын

We need an episode with JUST Tom Schwartz!!!! When he's alone he seems to show genuine growth & he takes accountability for his past. He needs space away from Sandavol to realize that defending him is NOT serving him & that he's holding him back immensley!

@malandmaggie 4 ай бұрын

Let’s be completely real here…. Nick and Natalie knew 5 minutes into Tom being there that he is full of crap. Favorite quote: Tom swears to God. Nick: Ohhh well God is going to be disappointed 😂😂😂😂

@SparkleThroughLife 4 ай бұрын

Schwartz needs to cut Tom loose. You become the sum of the people you surround yourself with, and Schwartz continuously gets pulled down by Sandoval

@evie3148 4 ай бұрын

Birds of a feather flock together.. they are friends for a reason. I do wish we got to hear more about how Schwartz sees Sandoval, their friendship, and what he values in Tom and their friendship.

@dr_power. 4 ай бұрын

Idk ..I think Schwartz sees Sandoval’s fragility and tries to “hold him up”. He might not know how to free himself - might fear Sandoval wouldn’t make it if he left.

@amandacheadle 4 ай бұрын

Agreed. Sandoval is like an anchor dragging him down.

@figand_fern3997 3 ай бұрын

it wasnt the way sandoval handled it since. it was the way he shoved it in arianas face. dressing up as raquel for halloween raquel buying a matching lightning bolt necklace and trying to play therapist for arianas relationship that was the twisted part