I just had to make my wife watch this video. Ive got the green light

This guy deserves way more then hes getting. Just bought the CSL F1 Bundle (Havent got it yet) upgrading from the G29. This is the only video of the 100s ive watched that actually answers the questions we all have. Fan Fuckingtastic work my man. Once you get noticed you will explode for this content.

Here in Brasil, Fanatec wheels costs more than a real car.

I went the same route 3 weeks ago (except I got the Elite Loadcell Pedals and a Formula Carbon Wheel) and 100% agree with you. The Force Feedback is completely different. I never understood when people said "more detailed FFB" until I first tried my CSL Elite. You get so much more information. A big plus on immersion but also a big plus on consistency. The comparison I like to make is "My G29 was a TOY that got me into sim racing. The CSL Elite is SIM RACING EQUIPMENT." Sounds ridiculous but it's true. One more thing: My girlfriend HATED the rumbling noise the G29 made. After my first session with the CSL she said "It was a very good idea to get the new wheel." Maybe that's a good argument some of you can use;-)

The fact you summed everything up in the first 60seconds just made you my favourite reviewer lol

Thank you for doing the TLDW points in the beginning instead of dragging things out with a life story

Although I have no intentions of buying either of these, your video was brilliantly done. Very informative and actually makes me want one. GG

Great info and thanks for posting! I have been using the pre G25 "DRIVING FORCE" combo since way back in 2002-ish but I finally decided that it's time to get a bit more serious than my TV tray and pedal set. So I built a full motion platform and got a decent H8a shifter. I have a couple videos posted if you want to look. Now, I'm really ready to get a better wheel and pedal set. I'm thinking of getting the V3 pedal set. I also have been thinking of the CSL elite rather than the CSW because I can get the pedal set too for that price. Thanks again for posting and thanks all who have added comments. DMAX

One of the best review styles ever period. Well done, considering options to move on from a g25. I'll be checking any other reviews you have on here 👍

I bought the fanatec csl elite and formula v2 cause of these videos... they’ll be delivered today

Thanks for this vid. I’m convinced to Go from a G29 to a CSL elite. Can you make a tutorial vid how you convinced your wife? 🤣

Thank you for taking the time to make this video! I'm having such a good time racing with my G29 that I want to upgrade. Never thought simracing would be my thing, but apparently it is!

Ive been using mine now for about a year, love it to pieces, worth every penny

I'm still using the G29... hopefully to get the Fanatec one day ! Great review btw 👍

Thanks man moving on from my G29 soon. This video definitely helped with some questions

Perfect review, conclusion up front, the FF demo and the curb explanation paint a very vivid image. Answering the CSW question was just icing on the cake. Thank you

I have the full fanatec combo.. csv 2.5, sqv shifter, v3 pedals, universal hub and the v2. Before, and for more.than 12 years I had a G25.. yes.. a 25. I love my fanatec, but have you try the g29 after months? I did... it was like a toy.. the shifter, pedals.. etc. I notice the difference after almost a year using the fanatec, when I did the change (too many setup, test and stuff like that) it didnt feel so great.. but.. go back... OMFG.. this upgrade worth each cent!!

Good video, informative. ive had my CSL Elite for a few weeks now, huge diference, i actually feel slower when driving but when i look at my lap times they are generally a second or so quicker than with the G29

Thank you so much! So rare to find an adequate review !

Thanks for the video! I think I have a similar mindset and appreciate your thoughts.

I just got G29 (an upgrade from a 50 USD no FFB one).. well, I still have a long journey before me :D

Upgrading from a g27 lol. So I can't wait to get my elite. You should have talked more about the pedals. The pedals make a huge difference in your speed as well. I was gonna get one anyways but thank you for confirming my choice.

Great video, exactly what I needed to know, very informative! Thank you!

amazing review. Im hoping to make the same upgrade in the next week or so, can't wait

can confirm 100% when he talks about recovering spins. i'm a noob, but the first time i drove the 911 in ACC i was able to recover a spin, which never happened with the G29.

But... I want to know about the beer in the microwave!

Really wicked video. Well made. Hope you go far fella

That was a really awesome clear and concise review.

I upvoted and liked this video because of your TLDW

Oh man I'm so tempted to get the CSL F1 rig, it looks too amazing

im using a g25 at the moment. just waiting until i can get the time and money to buy myself a csl elite. thanks for your videos man! you earned a sub from me :)

This is a nice reinforcement of the purchase I just made. My first sim set is going to be the Clubsport v2.5 with the Clubsport V3 pedals. I'm stoked

Would love to have heard what difference it makes in dirt rally as that's the driving sim i mostly play. The G29 is extremely notchy with dirt rally, so much so that bumps don't really feel like bumps and you get no sense of tyre traction.

That set up needs a good rig!

Well done man. Thanks for the video. Very useful!

Well done I needed this.

Ah LFS, FBM car, Balckwood track, Mouse steering. Those were the days!

I've had my g29 for 5 years using it on iRacing. It might have been force feedback and cooler wheels but I can promise you don't need it to be faster. I'm fairly rapid with my g29. Just wanted to point this out. The finding speed argument is a misnomer.

i made this jump recently. G29 to Csl elite with the V2 rim and loadcell pedals. It completely changes the experience of sim racing. It's an almighty jump up that is without a doubt worth the money in my opinion. I'm getting used to it now and my driving is much better but for the first few days I was just in awe of how good it all felt

A very solid review. You deserve more subs then you have now. Keep up the work

Hi, thanks for the video. I'm in the same boat with regards to upgrading. I have a T300RS and 50/50 in deciding to bite the bullet and press the buy it now button. I'm only a console racer on a racing rig and love it so would it be worth it to me to upgrade? Thank you.

CSL sold out with no timing of restocking, CSL DD not expected until Q3 of 2021, don't have a grand and a half for a podium... Guess I'll just keep using my G29 with broken shifters for awhile longer.

I ordered mine last night (upgrading from a g27). I wish I'd seen this video as I definitely would have used your link mate. Absolutely sensational video and beautifully explained! Well done! Oh and subd!

Fantastic and clear comparison, thanks the infos!

I hope sharing my experience will add to this video. I don't want to contradict what Danny said, but just say that it can go differently for different people. It has probably to do with my lack of experience since I have been treating sim racing just like playing any other vidogame for several years and only recently became more serious about it. I upgraded from the old Logitech Driving Force GT to the most basic Fanatec CSL kit a month ago. Like I said, my experience was a bit different. I have to agree, the force feedback immediately felt like I could achieve much more now, it just needed some getting used to. So in this regard I was immediately optimistic, but not already convinced, since I still couldn't perform as well as before. It was the small things I discovered, that I haven't felt on my Driving Force GT, which made me enjoy it. For Example, I've never felt a flatspot on the tires and could now even tell on which wheel it was. Also loosing the rear seemed to become less and less of an issue. Just be prepared that it can be more of a slow process than you might expect after seeing this video. What took me even more time, was getting used to the pedals. Keep in mind I'm now using the basic CSL pedals without loadcell (these are going to be upgraded soon). This break pedal uses a kind of rubbery foam that you have to compress in order to create resistance. My Driving Force GT used a simple spring mechanism that didn't create any kind of noticable resistance. This created a real issue for me. I was signed up for races that go over a length of 90 minutes (+training & Qualifying) and I seriously doubted that my foot would last this long. After one week of training I managed it barely. I couldn't even think about doing clean trail breaking, or having a real good feel in more complex corners, though. Now it has been a month and the next race is comming. I finally feel like I have reached the level of performance I had before, but for now I'm thinking it kind of threw me back a month and I'm still "waiting" for the payoff. That being said, it's of course more fun to drive, even if it was a little frustrating in the beginning. Also, just for fairness... I could have a distorted view on this, since it was a slow process for me and consistency is hard to measure, if you're not setting out to do that. I guess it has already improved a bit.

G27 > 2.5 wheel base (OMG) let’s just say “game changer”

Great video my friend. I recently upgraded from using my PS4 controller to the CSL ELITE Fanatec Racing wheel and pedals. The feel of everything thing i have is amazing, but the transition from controller to wheel is a journey for me. Rome wasn't built in a day I tell myself and to practice, use the KZfaq guides and so on. I race with Need for Speed Payback and Heat, Gran Turismo Sport, Grid, and F1 2019 and F1 2020

Fantastic content m8. Love the tldw at the beginning as well. This is probably all the info I need on this setup. Best, BN

Cheers totally agree. I never owned a g29 but I tryed a g27 and never expected the feeling I got from the csl elite when i finally bought one.

My TMX Pro gave out this week, so this helps alot with deciding what to replace it with. Great video, thanks!

I went from a thrustmaster t150 to the fanatec csl elite f1 and I also orded the p1 wheel as well. Had it for close to a year now and yes it's worth it. Good video man

Thank you bro, im ordering this on sunday, and this is exactly my upgrade! Thank you again

You got a new subscriber at the Angry Wife’s noises!!! Nice man!!! I’m racing on a G29 and I was expecting a review like this to actually go for it. So I think this is my next upgrade! Cheers and thank you.

Because of this video I’ve just ordered mine. Thank you!

Very well done Danny....the sim community needs to know who you are! Great job!

Excellent video, exactly the questions I was wondering about. Thank you.

Extremely helpful video! My 7 month old (at the time) g29 died over a month ago and I have yet to see a replacement from Logitech, so I was mulling over the jump to the Elite.

just ordered a dd pro and i had the same leap of faith moment when hitting that checkout button

My g920 has got a defect as well, right now I'm not playing racing games much but this is a much needed upgrade for when I have time to get back into this! Like many said, this is a really great video on whether it's worth it!

What an articulate opinion piece, well done! I liked the headphones simile, amongst others.

Excellent review all round.

thanks buddy really very very useful info and what's more is your bang on correct

Probably the best review I’ve ever seen for sim racing. I’m upgrading from a t300 - hope I get a similar wow feeling

My G29 left paddle shifters stopped working. So I’ve ordered my CSL elite. Can’t wait

Watching this, the day after I upgraded my setup from a Farming Sim wheel and pedal combo to a G920 paired with a TH8A. First thing I said, I have to learn how to drive again now that I have feedback

nice one dude... upgraded like 2 months ago from a g29 to a nearly new (used) csl elite and v3 pedals... no regrets :D

I really enjoyed this video. Articulate, to the point and you brought up some points I hadn't considered previously.

was thinking about upgrading for a long time from my t150 and this video pushed me over the edge. Just bought the csl elite and used your affiliate like so hopefully you get some money from my purchase :)

Hello Danny, this was a great video. Thank you. I have just started sim racing on my Logitech wheel and maybe next year i will get a Fanatec! :)

Great review. Thanks for this. I am still very very much a beginner. I have a G29 and was very intimidated to make the jump to a fanatec. Now I have some confidence in spending the money the CSL Elite demands.

Made the same move, wow this quality of gjr CSL is amazing

Great video. Thanks for bucking the trend and doing the nutshell bit at the beginning. Btw I have a g29 and the exact same microwave and beer, is this a sign?

I had one of the first gen Club Sport Wheel Base 1.0 and after about 3-4 years, my force feedback servo suddenly quit during a race. After a few back and forth emails Fanatec was fairly certain of the problem but only had parts for the 2.5 wheelbase. With a minor cost on my end, they quickly fixed it and had it back to me (USA) fairly quickly. I think I spent less than $100 between shipping and repair costs. Very happy customer of Fanatec.

Thanks for the quick summary in the beginning, gives trustworthyness to your videos when you skip all the KZfaq-clickbait! Well deserved like!

Well done Danny, you hit the nail on the head. I did a similar upgrade from Fanatec CSR to Fanatec Clubsport V2 and concur with all your findings. That was the good news, the bad news is that the upgrade from Clubsport or CSL to OSW direct drive is just as big. Its not about the power my 20nm wheel is usually run at 65%, it's the immediacy, the purity of the feedback, the granular nature of the road feel and more importantly the tyre slip feel. You are hanging on to the rotor arm of the motor and just losing the belt and its connection points makes another big leap. The sensory feedback is so great that it was exhausting, your brain had to learn to deal with it.

This was THE perfect video thank you. After using G29 for the past two years I desperately wanted an upgrade and this video has made me find the right way I should go.

Nice Video! I came from a T150 and just upgraded to a CSL Elite + LC Pedals - What an upgrade! Also, I noticed that in your iRacing video, the display on the M8 shows a boost setting of '5'. This is actually a reduced power setting. A setting of '1' is full power.

Nice one Danny. I'm a newbie to your channel and love your content and your voice. Your content is well researched with good visuals which match your script. E.g. it's nice to have a demo on screen of what you are talking about off it, there's obviously much work going into your vids. You voice is calm and easy to listen to, i can listen to it whilst working and not feel it conflicts with my work like many other more excitable youtubers do!

I have the thrustmaster ts-xw and bought the t-lcm pedals as well and replaced my g920 and even though I only play casually it is a big improvement. Yes the force feedback is awesome and didn't realise how big of a difference load cell made i really do recommend upgrading if you unlike me race lot but the thrusmaster is great.

This video is fantastic, you really deserve more on this video and your entire channel. This specific video has finally convinced me to get a csl elite, a decision I had been sitting on for years. Thank you.

When I upgraded from the g25 to the csl elite it was like night and day. The steering felt like there was wheels attached to it... I could feel the rubber resisting the turn. The g25 is so grainy in its force feedback that its like watching 480p and the CSL is 1080p the Podium is 4k. This is literally the definition of game changing.

Since I'm just starting, I will stick to the G29 and see where it takes me, but I'll keep this review on my pocket. Great analysis.

The CSL Elite is a great base. I bought mine back in March and love it. I tried the desk solution, but opted to go to a dedicated cockpit fairly soon as it made better sense for me.

I've literally just gone from my old G920 to a CSL Elite + with the BMW GT2 wheel... Night and day differences, so happy with my upgrade... next to do the pedals

This got my so hyped to grab a CSL elite!

My BoosTED green Porsche was in your video 😁

I'm sold, looking forward to aquire this sometimes in the next year; I'd be going from a venerable Driving Force GT to this :P

great video Danny. I myself have been looking to take this leap of faith for the last 6 months to a year and so far I've not clicked that checkout button. I now feel like I'm absolutely being hindered by my G29 set.

On the bases of this video I've just ordered a CSW wheelbase and load cell pedals....fingers crossed all goes well.

I switched from T300 to fanatec csl elite f1 bundle and holy I couldn't believe how much I loved the experience of the csl elite the pedals and ffb really changed my enjoyment of racing sims to anyone that sees this and wants to upgrade if u have the money do it! Its such a good upgrade (or wait for the csl dd which will be even better)

Man I've had my G27 for like 6 years. I wanna upgrade to a Fanatec setup, but its hard to get it in New Zealand. Nice review.

Great Video Danny :) you got a new Subscriber keep up the good work i can see your channel growing very soon mate

Ty my csw is on its way! Cheers!!

Great video. A lot of niggling questions answered here that have made me apprehensive about spending the extra £. I'll be looking to get the CSL Elite very shortly.

Very informative video, thanks

The ffb test scared me the first time I tested it. I got mine last year for my first setup and I like it. I like the formula v2 rim that I have along with the m3 gt2.

Thanks For this video Danny! I'm about to check out on Fanatec website! You definitely cleared any doubts, I also upgrade from a g29. Either I quite sim racing or upgrade but wasn't sure that would help going for the Elite or other on same price range. So, I'll proceed using the link and will come back to comment again!! Thanks again, Have a good one!

If your someone who likes VERY low force would you or you guys recommend this? (i use 3-4nm of force with the force level at 3.0 in iracing with a g920)

this is an old video but I thought I should add my 2 cents as someone who started on a csl elite and made the minor switch to the csw. first off i switched because of lack of support for some of the new wheels and hubs etc. fanatec were putting out, and i felt behind. i could never find information for certain things about the csl that i could vary quickly find for the csw and id end up messing with the wrong settings and was never confident in what i was feeling from the wheel, when I switched to the csw all the already set settings felt perfect (other then the drift mode being set to -5 i like to keep it around -2 because at -5 the wheel felt super slow to self steer during a slide in iracing or when i was just messing around and drifting in forza), the wheel felt like it had less clipping and i felt that it was way more smooth and detailed in what i was feeling, i still feel i should of saved a little more and went to a dd1 since i already had a pretty similar wheel base, but im still super happy with the csw and if you can spare the extra cash i think its well worth the extra cost over the csl. also if youre playing at a desk i would not get the cheapest pedals fanatec has to offer, they arent the greatest feeling and the break pedal is so ungodly stiff that if youre using it on anything there then bolted to a rig it will flip every time you try and really get on the breaks, and it being so stiff and such a short throw, made it so it was very hard to be consistent with my breaking, like if you cant afford the clubsport pedals id almost be tempted to tell you to stick with the Logitech ones till you can. and ill add to the customer service as i unfortunately had to use them. they are polite but take quite a bit to respond, i had an issue where the h pattern on my shifter wouldn't work but the sequential would, i sent it back and they fixed it in about 2 weeks and refunded my shipping cost when i showed them my receipt. they did help me with all my questions on setting everything up (because it was my first time and i skipped a lot of stuff in the instruction manual and thought things were broke when really i just had my pedals plugged into the pc and wheel base at the same time 🤦‍♂️)

Tell you what fella, superb presentation and review. I'm a Jimmy broadbent (lovable nutter) and Chris Haye ( he could yell your granny died and he'll still stay calm) fan. But have to say your approach is brilliant. Telling me, clearly and honest what the CSl can bring , both pro and cons. Watching this has certainly pulled me to seriously consider the CSL from my benchmark Simmer G29. thank you