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[Talk Show] Lee-Sedol VS Shusaku who is stronger?

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Go Pro Yeonwoo

Go Pro Yeonwoo

Күн бұрын

He is a real Lee-Sedol ;)
I made English subtitles :)
Enjoy talk show with Go legend!
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@weimondo
@weimondo Жыл бұрын
I'm a simple man. I see Lee Sedol, I click like.
@letMeSayThatInIrish
@letMeSayThatInIrish Жыл бұрын
Lee Sedol 9p has a really good point, and maybe it's obvious, but I had not fully realized it before now: Players used to develop their own moves and styles. Now everyone just copies from AI. It feels like something has been lost.
@Bladavia
@Bladavia Ай бұрын
That's true to some extent, but if you really study AI, you shouldn't just copy, you should learn how it punishes the old moves. And then you'll realize how the AI moves are indeed superior, and you have no other choice but to let go of the old styles and embrace AI.
@e4jasperi
@e4jasperi 19 күн бұрын
Same happened in chess after AI took over. Now the best players are just rote memorizing the whole opening sequence for both sides. It lost something indeed.
@gabri9728
@gabri9728 Жыл бұрын
Woow! Thank you so much for this content. Really exciting to see Lee Sedol himself. Would be super cool if you manage to bring other legends for an interview! ❤
@SSGoatanks
@SSGoatanks 10 ай бұрын
Really sad that Lee retired from Go, please ask if he's interested in playing chess against Magnus Carlsen!
@PimentelES
@PimentelES Жыл бұрын
WOW, I was watching your older video about him yesterday where you explained his life story!! So cool!
@gatxstrike
@gatxstrike Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video Yeonwoo ! It's awesome to have such a casual video with the all too shy & secretive Lee-Sedol ❤️
@chritical_ep
@chritical_ep Жыл бұрын
It's crazy to hear that someone who was the best in the world at baduk just didn't play it at all after retiring
@ThreenGumb
@ThreenGumb 7 ай бұрын
For a lot of professional athletes, it truly is just a job to them.
@chritical_ep
@chritical_ep 7 ай бұрын
@@ThreenGumb True, but he obviously had immense love and passion for the game. Given how much professionals have to study, especially in their childhoods, once they retire, their life probably feels a bit empty. I'm sure they quickly fill it with other things though, and I'm sure Lee Sedol found things to do
@Beyondhumanlimits1
@Beyondhumanlimits1 4 ай бұрын
AlphaGo broke his spirit. I feel very sad for him.
@bogiesan
@bogiesan Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the subtitles, very kind of you to make the effort for the rest of us.
@rhythm_382
@rhythm_382 Жыл бұрын
Where is my "Go Pro Yeonwoo! *click*" opening bit? I feel attacked! But, I liked this video a lot, it was so fun and lighthearted. Thank you very much.
@besanit
@besanit Жыл бұрын
Probably you had to refrain your self very hard from asking him for a friendly game. A pity that he does not play any more, he probably has very strong feelings or he does not want to spoil his reputation. Hopefully he will come back.
@howardjeddore1139
@howardjeddore1139 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Yeonwoo for this amazing content for all us Baduk enthusiasts. Lee Sedol! The man, the myth, the legend. I am humbly grateful for this interview. Kamsahamnida!
@michaelgo3616
@michaelgo3616 Жыл бұрын
You know, I think you could do any sort of entertainment show. Would be awful for go players to 'lose' you, but the rest of the world would rejoice.
@xPaPs_
@xPaPs_ 6 ай бұрын
having Lee-Sedol on a 16k subcribers channel.. it's talk a lot about the man
@alexblickhan5175
@alexblickhan5175 Жыл бұрын
This was a very fun interview!
@arekkrolak6320
@arekkrolak6320 Жыл бұрын
Lee Sedol is such a legend! Great to hear this interview
@paulbloemen7256
@paulbloemen7256 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting, thank you for sharing with written translation. It must be hard to find something new when you were at the top of the world at a young age. That’s sport’s fate. Some finance and co-manage a restaurant, that may be quite rewarding, and it keeps you busy.
@wherewhereiswherewhereth8523
@wherewhereiswherewhereth8523 Жыл бұрын
Lee Sedol, you are so cute in this talk show. So charming 😊 You have great chemistry when work together. Yeonwoon you have a lot of Fans in Thailand, It shoud be a great time, if you both be invite to visit here once.❤❤❤❤❤
@tungpham6886
@tungpham6886 Жыл бұрын
thank for your videos, long time no see Mr Lee Sedol
@naegling
@naegling Жыл бұрын
I have no idea that Lee Sedol was into boardgame design, I'm looking forward to play his designs someday , tho korean board games are hard to get in my country. I don't know if Lee Sedol would ever read this comment, but something "not go related" he can do on youtube (and i totally would watch) is playthrough other modern boardgames, waching him play 'agricola', 'ticket to ride', 'cascasonne', etc would be fun. Also if he is into board game design i think he could share he's thoughts about about his own design process or other people's games, there is a board game designer called Jamey Stegmaier who does that.
@sjs9698
@sjs9698 Жыл бұрын
i'll second this! i'd love to hear his thoughts on games; his own or anyone else's. maybe a board-game review channel would suit him?
@Kalman0815
@Kalman0815 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making the subtitle for us foreigners!
@tappaiyok
@tappaiyok Жыл бұрын
Now I want the wrong 이세돌 t-shirt for the obscure reference.
@snicklesnockle7263
@snicklesnockle7263 Жыл бұрын
The way he avoided eye contact made me uncomfortable. But I'm the same way.
@stonemuncher9494
@stonemuncher9494 Жыл бұрын
Awesome :) I was not expecting this video but it was very fun to watch
@Bladavia
@Bladavia Жыл бұрын
thank you so much ! Lee Sedol is my idol
@annemeene3782
@annemeene3782 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the Translation and the subtitles!
@johnv4487
@johnv4487 Жыл бұрын
Wowow this is such a treat to see. Thank you Lee-Sedol for the interview !
@illnessangel
@illnessangel Жыл бұрын
thank you for subtitles!
@alberijh
@alberijh Жыл бұрын
Increíble, excelente entrevista, muchas gracias por compartirla
@dhollandpiano
@dhollandpiano Жыл бұрын
Lee Sedol was my favorite player. It was great to hear from again him through your video, but let's just leave him alone. He gave so much but now his work is done. One thing I want to mention is that he seems like the right person to ask about players from the past.
@dauraktv
@dauraktv Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this!
@leoalejandro1989
@leoalejandro1989 Жыл бұрын
OMG U are amazing. I love you ñ. Thx for this
@vincentfairphone1101
@vincentfairphone1101 Жыл бұрын
Very nice ! Thanks :)
@NotTheWheel
@NotTheWheel Жыл бұрын
Wow! What an honor :3
@oliko5006
@oliko5006 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for English subtitles! KR OL
@baatarbeifong7869
@baatarbeifong7869 Жыл бұрын
I love the admirable personalities of baduk players. Such is shown in that previous video with Shin Jin-Seo graciously returning a stone to where Park Mingyu originally placed it after Park Mingyu clearly made a mistake by letting the stone slide to somewhere else, or with Lee Sedol giving a measured and considerate response that reserves judgment on the suspected cheating through use of A.I. from Li Xuanhao. It's nice to hear Lee Sedol wants to give a proper farewell to China, Korea, and Japan~
@plrc4593
@plrc4593 2 ай бұрын
Plot Twist: Lee Sedol is the kid Hikaru beat in a go club.
@HuerniaBarbata
@HuerniaBarbata 3 ай бұрын
Это было очень интересное интервью. Спасибо Ён У!
@dhama5804
@dhama5804 10 ай бұрын
Soft spoken, very strong will, blunt yet not rude. I'm guilty of copying AI opening preparation - being able to use most of my time in the middle game is comfortable. While I believe the pros outweigh the cons, I can understand Lee Sedol's disappointment; there was a numinous property to the game prior to the advent of AI.
@honkeykong9592
@honkeykong9592 10 ай бұрын
Haha he’s modestly savage I love it, I hope he makes a channel that would only manifest “the super kid” faster!😊
@pcatful
@pcatful 4 ай бұрын
This is great! Should be more "likes".
@AntheInEcht
@AntheInEcht Жыл бұрын
please, such a special moment and then all these childish audio nonsense. Anyway, thank you!!
@johkonut
@johkonut Жыл бұрын
i watched this on your korean channel already but i appreciate the subs because my korean is bad ^o^
@sjs9698
@sjs9698 Жыл бұрын
great video! thanks so much, really thrilled to see this. any chance of adding links to where we can buy those boardgames? are they translated for us english-only types? (if not, how can we make that happen?)
@user-vg3hd8zk8n
@user-vg3hd8zk8n 9 ай бұрын
Yeonwoo I love you and your content! You're so smart and amazing! Keep going please❤️
@ericb7937
@ericb7937 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for english subtitles
@unfixablegop
@unfixablegop Жыл бұрын
An aging Peter Pan. AI has driven him out of his paradise. It seems he really does have great problems doing something now that is still meaningful to him.
@seanfaherty
@seanfaherty Жыл бұрын
You’d think my Korean would have got better by now.
@0ldPlayer
@0ldPlayer 11 ай бұрын
7:40 that's such a smart way to look at it, I've never played Baduk and dont know how but anyone who plays any game can learn a lot from Lee Sedol
@ATBoardgamesSolo
@ATBoardgamesSolo 11 ай бұрын
Legend!! If he ever will make playthrough's and reviews of boardgames (his own or others), i will immediately subscribe! ☺(from a fellow boardgame youtuber from Holland)
@kongkritayakirana6000
@kongkritayakirana6000 Жыл бұрын
great video!
@rookiec4
@rookiec4 10 ай бұрын
the only human who won one game agaist AI... I watched the documentary again few days ago. I saw him once at tournament when I visited Korea. Still keeping photos from that event.
@orangeknight321
@orangeknight321 7 ай бұрын
Dear god my man looks OLD. Like AlphaGo took his soul or something.
@scoon2117
@scoon2117 Жыл бұрын
More more leeeee!!
@sinfinite7516
@sinfinite7516 Жыл бұрын
Wowwwwww you got the goat in an interview
@ian3084
@ian3084 10 ай бұрын
Lee-Sedol? Amazing!
@yaoyong4334
@yaoyong4334 8 ай бұрын
yeonwoo makes me wanna learn to play baduk
@spunkuro-wee1478
@spunkuro-wee1478 7 ай бұрын
Wow ! Lee Sedol
@kisidon2018
@kisidon2018 Жыл бұрын
big love from Vietnam
@iamjimfan
@iamjimfan 9 ай бұрын
I support Lee Sedol. He should be playing as a pro once again.
@andreahelgager
@andreahelgager Жыл бұрын
Lee Sedol is an INTP, like nearly all top Go players, gamers, chess players, etc.
@jarosawjusiak6716
@jarosawjusiak6716 Жыл бұрын
The interview is very interesting and thanks a lot for english subtitles but why there are so many strange sounds every few seconds like you were in the circus?
@zaksmith1035
@zaksmith1035 Жыл бұрын
That's very popular in Korean editing.
@jarosawjusiak6716
@jarosawjusiak6716 Жыл бұрын
@@zaksmith1035 Maybe it's a culture thing. I find it very annoying as my English is not a mother tounge and it makes harder to focus on the content.
@TheHumbleThinker
@TheHumbleThinker Жыл бұрын
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
@sinfinite7516
@sinfinite7516 Жыл бұрын
You should’ve offered to coach him on KZfaq in exchange for coaching on your Go game 😂
@dstrbo13
@dstrbo13 Жыл бұрын
he didn't drink any of his drink :\
@jannealeksituononen-hd9zk
@jannealeksituononen-hd9zk Жыл бұрын
Go world is forever debted to ai as we can move from this moves dont feel your own and not special even If you follow correct paths More than opps whatever they look like. Now we have easy tool to see what plans are correct and where ppl make inaccuracies "I dont believe in psychology I believe in strong moves"
@tb620
@tb620 Жыл бұрын
How can I buy his board game in the US?
@goproyeonwoo
@goproyeonwoo Жыл бұрын
I think you can buy in Korea website and deliver but I'm afraid there is no English version yet
@Haures89
@Haures89 Жыл бұрын
when iheard this that he " didnt play go anymore" i dont know what to think of it, did he really stopped playing completely, sounds to me that he lost all his Passion or something like that since he played AlphaGo :(
@tample16
@tample16 Ай бұрын
@Yeonwoo tell us your MBTI!!!
@scoon2117
@scoon2117 Жыл бұрын
BRO
@retryhikaru184
@retryhikaru184 Жыл бұрын
O:
@Andyg2g
@Andyg2g Жыл бұрын
Lee’s response to you doing KZfaq through me off a little…felt like he was a little dismissive and even a bit condescending. Maybe something was lost in translation.
@michaelkim984
@michaelkim984 8 ай бұрын
I am Korean and I can say it certainly didn’t feel that way to me. I think Lee sedol was genuinely curious about Yeonwoo’s motivation for KZfaq because he genuinely was struggling to find a deep personal drive to pursue content creation, and shared that that was the case in a frank way, explaining to Yeonwoo that he was interested in KZfaq but has been on the fence because he’s not sure he has a deep personal goal to pursue in that area.
@Andyg2g
@Andyg2g 8 ай бұрын
@@michaelkim984 that makes more sense! Thank you for your response!
@zaksmith1035
@zaksmith1035 Жыл бұрын
I'm going to guess that Lee Sedol is an INFP. We'll see. Yeonwoo, are you INFJ? You two seem to get along VERY well.
@goproyeonwoo
@goproyeonwoo Жыл бұрын
Im INFP 😀
@Zach61O6
@Zach61O6 Жыл бұрын
I also think Lee Sedol is INFP. I thought Yeonwoo would've been ENFP haha.
@user-ni5cm7us5t
@user-ni5cm7us5t 9 ай бұрын
아직까지도 AI를 인정하지 않네 ㅋ 인간미가 없는 기계로 합리화 하며 부정하고 심각하네 세돌이 본인이 기계의 힘을 얻고 편하게 살아가면서....... 내가 AI 출몰 하기전 세돌이 2016년 인공지능과 대국 훨씬 전 인터뷰에서 기계는 인간을 넘어 설 수 없다 라고 했었지 그 이유가 패에 대한 인식을 기계는 넘어설 수 없다 라고 그 건 사람만이 할 수 있는 영역이라고 그래서 인공지능 바둑은 절대 사람을 이길 수 없다 라고 했을 때 난 그 때 그 인터뷰 보고 세돌이 개 무식한 소리하고 있네 라고 했었지 사람의 지능을 뛰어넘는 컴퓨터가 그 당시에도 있었 거늘 어째서 그 걸 간과하고 뚱딴지 같은 소릴 하니 어이없었음. 세상을 몰라도 너무 몰랐던 세돌이 바둑을 대단한 영역으로 착각하는 세돌이 난 1999년도에 컴퓨터 인터넷 바둑을 뒀었음(M게임 온라인 인터넷 바둑) 머지 않아 인공지능이 인간을 넘어 설거란 생각을 그 때 부터 진작에 했었음(참고로 내가 컴퓨터 83년에 첨 첩했었음 학과도) 바둑만 두다보니 우물안 개구리고 넓은 세계관을 모르는 세돌이 아직까지 저런 무딘 세계관에서 못 벗어나다니 꼴통은 확실함. 그리고 오래전 프로기사 조혜연기사와 우연잖게 인공지능에 대해 갑논을박 했었음 인공지능 후 조혜연사범은 3점으로 神과 대결해도 절대 안진다고 했었음. 그 말에 내가 발끈했었음. 3점으로도 질 수 있다고 아니 4점으로도............ 이유인즉, 개발자들이 더 이상 업그레이드 할 필요없다고 생각해서 그런 것 뿐 이라고....... 거기에 조혜연프로가 또 나름 나에게 반박했었지만 난 더 이상 그녀와 대화를 하지 않았음. 더 이상의 대화는 불필요 했으니깐 그녀도 그 때 이세돌과의 가치관이 다를게 없었으니 더 이상의 대화는 불필요한 것. 세월이 좀 지났어도 조혜연프로 나와의 갑논을박 기억할 거임.(그 당시에도 프로기사 인공지능과 2점을 못 당해 3점으로도 둔걸로 알고있음) 바둑 프로기사들이 3점 4점으로 절대 패하지 않느니 자꾸 헛소리 하며 개발자들에게 공개적으로 도전한다면 개발자들도 발끈해서 또는 여러 이유로 두 팔 걷어 붙혀 마음만 먹으면 프로기사들 3점 4점 아니 그 이상 벌어질 수 있게 할 수 있다는 것. 단지 이정도로 만족 한 것 뿐, 더 이상 바둑으로 인간과 대결 하는 건 무의미 하다고 생각하고 또 더 이상 인간을 비참하게 안 만들려고 그 이상의 시도를 안하는 것 뿐. 자존심이야 와르륵 무너진 상태지만 인정할 건 해야함. 현재도 신진서 급이 아니면 웬만한 프로기사들 2점은 물론 3점도 인공지능에게 패할 수 있잖음? 개발자들이 더 업그레이드 시키면 3점은 물론 4점도 벌어질 수 있고, 그 이상도 된다는 것. 인공지능 업그레이드는 무한대임. 정체될 수 없는 것이 인공지능임. 개발자들이 왜 바둑 인공지능을 만들었겠음? 프로기사들이 인공지능에 대한 무지로 수시로 도발하는 발언을 하니 천재들이 바둑 인공지능을 만들어내서 뽄때를 보여준거임. PS: 거짓말 좀 더 보태서 제주도 급 하나 걸고 4점으로 한국 11위권 기사들과 붙혀 내기(도박)하자고 하면 영국의 컴퓨터 천재들 대가리 싸메고 연구하면 4점으로도 못 당할 거임. 아직까지도 컴퓨터를 우습게 보는.............
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