**NEW POC debunk** that has more sources and counter points: vsbattles.com/threads/devils-do-cry-peak-of-conspiracy.160099/
@abhijeetgolder75357 ай бұрын
Umm 🤔 didn't Goku have boon to keep his body even after death . So doesn't it qualifies for him able to fight even after death . And what about mafuba
@chidorim4st3r57 ай бұрын
@@abhijeetgolder7535 in character Goku wouldn’t use the mafuba
@abhijeetgolder75357 ай бұрын
@@chidorim4st3r5 what about his boon. In db Goku can't exist in temporal realm's/ mortal realm's after death cause of the rules imposed. But vs battle happening in a neutral zone Goku can fight even after death. And there's few things missed THE 9D TRANSLATION OR INFO IS FROM A NON CANON GAME'S AND 9 D TALKED HERE ISN'T SPATIAL DIMENSIONS. AND ANOTHER ONE is afterlife is a kind of non temporal realm and transcending one on top of that . Difference between realm outside space and time and non temporal realm is. One is just exist outside of it while other one has surpassed space time to the point space time doesn't exist anymore. And i saw non temporal realm in SCP VERSE ONLY WHILE THEY HAVE MULTIPLE NORMAL ONE'S . THE ONE'S DB POSSESSES ARE TRANSCENDING ONE'S.
@chidorim4st3r57 ай бұрын
@@abhijeetgolder7535 I already made a debunk video that is separate from this one that has more of that explained as said in the video. The link in this comment also goes into that as well. This neutral zone death thing you’re talking about makes zero sense and would not apply. If he dies the battle is over. And plus if he dies again, he is erased from existence as it is said in dragon ball, that if you die in the afterlife, you are gone forever.
@abhijeetgolder75357 ай бұрын
@@chidorim4st3r5 problem. Is this ? Goku's main aspects is his ki . When he is dead and goes afterlife he got boon to keep his body. And that form Goku have infinite amount of ki. The reason Goku didn't used this against buu. Cause in db after reaching afterlife you can't go back in temporal realm's that's not permitted. That's Goku need that witch help to gain temporary entrance in living world. But that problem didn't happened when Goku goes to Kai o shin realm. There old Kai revived Goku so he can enter back the mortal plane. So if against dante Goku somehow dies and get access to his body as a dead and allowed to continue battle in somewhere like Kai o shin or afterlife basically non temporal realm's . He can spam without limit , no stamina problem no durability lose and most importantly no limit on Kai o ken mixing . Cause Goku body have a limit in mortal plane and ki basically used to overcome that limit and temporary amp Goku at higher dimension being. Here he completely dominates dante in any of his form. And thing is Goku can still grow more powerful .
@Kaiser_still_da_goat2 ай бұрын
There’s still an immeasurable speed scale in dmc2
@theguy4319 Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU for mentioning that Goku can overpower hax with raw power, usually people ignore that fact even tho Goku does that pretty often.
@user-qx1id1dt8x10 ай бұрын
It's not like Goku has higher raw power to begin with
@XxSpirothKurotamaMOONLIGHTxX6 ай бұрын
wouldn't that apply only to the dragon ball universe with IT'S haxes and not outside of it.
@your_father193 ай бұрын
dt over powers hax
@theguy43192 ай бұрын
@weariedllama4948 no
@dontuspowerus10932 ай бұрын
@weariedllama4948 What do you mean it only works in Dragon Ball? Ki only makes it easier to break through hacks and reality. Otherwise, if it can't happen, then Super Man, hulk, and many more characters who could break through hacks and reality breaking space-time won't happen out of their verse. Also, I can do the same claim. The Yamato? Yeah, it won't cut through space-time because it's not in its verse. Just a regular ass katana. You guys thinking that Anti-Hacks shouldn't work to hacks. Which makes it also true to Hacks becaus it is not in the verse. That's bullshit Infinity Gauntlet horse shit. We literally have Shenron, a true mentioned MAGIC user, not Ki user, can't even kill a person powerful than their creator. Which means Ki breaking Hacks in any verse should be counted as true.
@Superlizardy368 ай бұрын
I dont really care who's stronger, Dante is a much better character than goku imo
@nayan.punekar7 ай бұрын
Goku infinitely>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dante. Dante although cool is fking overrated as hell. Also Goku is way cooler than dante
@wackywoohoopizzaman89957 ай бұрын
@@nayan.punekar lmao bros saying Dante's overrated when he's talking about goku
@AstaBolt.7 ай бұрын
Dante is way better than Goku, even though Goku is cocky and funny but Dante is way more cocky and funny
@Superlizardy366 ай бұрын
@@nayan.punekar goku is cooler than dante? Honestly goku is just kinda boring to me. Imo goku is the most overrated character in fiction
@BERFXD-dz2fj6 ай бұрын
@Superlizardy36 dont argue with nobrainer
@yoyokun2136 Жыл бұрын
They wouldn't kill eachther, rather I think they would become friends and as soon as 1 of them is visually hurt the other 1 would prob stop fighting to help him out. They're personalities and they're fighting styles and they both would be amazed by each other and prob learn a thing or 2 from 1 another and i think generally they would become friends. However if they were in a duel to the death i'd give my points to dante and im way to lazy to write since its 3:46am rn so ye imma go to sleep. Goodnight people of the internet
@edwinthomas3139 Жыл бұрын
Goku vs Dante is rather controversial. But I'd give it to Dante. Goliath, Artemis,and cavalier are heavily implied to be more powerful than their metaphysical counterfits that Dante would destroy no difficulty. Urizen a month after the fight with Dante was far more powerful by then further crediting Dante's power after DSD. Dante also fought and beat Urizen post qliphoth fruit in base form. Merely confronting pluto could pulverize a mere mortals spiritual essence and Dante was giving him issues in DT not very long after Dmc3. Also though I don't necessarily agree with the "debunks" provided in this vid I'd say it's pretty solid. Vergil vs vegeta?
@BizarroGB3 ай бұрын
Goku negs Dante using guidebooks to scale
@huyentruong83142 ай бұрын
@@BizarroGBas a certified "db meat rider" I'm one to know my limits . Dante is 9th dimensional while Goku at most is 6th dimensional and each dimension is more than infinite times smaller than the one after.
@NothingtoseriousfrАй бұрын
@@huyentruong8314 dante isn't 9d lmao
@alphaisyeeting4880Ай бұрын
@@NothingtoseriousfrDMC souls are 9D. That's a fact statement in DMC. So in general, Dante slams due to being far higher dimensional tier.
@Nothingtoseriousfr22 күн бұрын
Non canon poc, and they arent 9D in literal sense. Its referring to buddhist eightfold path @alphaisyeeting4880
@SoulInfinity5432 ай бұрын
Wow What Downplay Dante One Shots The Verse
@LordMiraakedits21422 ай бұрын
W
@Nothingtoseriousfr2 ай бұрын
Get him past island level Lil bro
@SoulInfinity5432 ай бұрын
@@Nothingtoseriousfr Bruh
@SoulInfinity5432 ай бұрын
@@Nothingtoseriousfr First of all Base Dante From DMC 5 is Stronger Then All Demon Kings Mundus / Pluto / Argosax Mundus Can Create Universes Just With Moving His Wings And He's Stronger Then (Nightmare) Who Was Able to Destroy Demon World Demon World is Infinite Multiverse Including Dimensions Showed in DMC 3 Pluto Can Destroy The 9 Dimensional Souls And Has Beyond Speed Argosax is Demon God Excited in Void Beyond Infinite Dimensions
@Nothingtoseriousfr2 ай бұрын
@SoulInfinity543 dm5 dante is still massively weaker than that. Mundus never created "universes", he created a universe and plus it's heavily implied it was an illusion in dmc5 guidebooks where mundus ate the same fruit as urizen. Nightmares feat of being able to destroy demon world is cave busting at best. Even in the cutscenes that's proven to be true so that scales nowhere. 9d scans were faked and forged from mobile game that's non canon and debunked by poc. His speed is barely above sub realvistic.
@kristopherdorsey8561 Жыл бұрын
I can imagine that both would be excited to fight each other that's a fight I would love to see.
@WaylonMoone9 ай бұрын
Idk… I think Dante would be suprised at how strong Goku is and maybe won’t use weapons just to see how he measures up for the fun of it, Now as a DB fan Who just got into DMC after beating 1,2 to now getting to 3, Dantes literally just having fun being attacked, impaled, hell in the first game he was stabbed in the heart by the goddess, and he just laughed it off, I think Goku would be attacking him non stop but OH MAN, I can just see Dante making fun of him or atleast not taking him seriously like he did with the Jester in DMC 3
@p0tat0o02 ай бұрын
@@WaylonMooneBro just walked over and took a slice of pizza as he dragged a demon along the floor with the scythe he was impaled with WHILE HE WAS IMPALED.
@SWF568Ай бұрын
kid goku would beat his ass
@p0tat0o0Ай бұрын
@@SWF568 Goku. Ehh maybe. Kid goku? Get your dumb restarted ass out of here.
@rimurutempest9733 Жыл бұрын
I don't agree with debunk of 9d stuff in my interpretation For me it's Dante he wins like ya said at end it's all objective glad your open minded ain't bias to both characters you get a like from me and new sub i like see you do vergil vs sepreroth from final fantasy 7 maybe composite versions of them since death battle horrible
@wanted_melon2348Ай бұрын
DMC by itself gets 6D and immeasurable speed but we barely have any info about Nirvana which is a place in DMC and DMC has a lot of Buddhism in it
@tobiaszglik2850 Жыл бұрын
For me is dante
@jamichealruizАй бұрын
Same🔥
@MrCraftyScales10 ай бұрын
Good Debunk on 9D Dante, but you can get both stronger
@thesoldiertf27748 ай бұрын
shit debunk on dantes dimensionality
@thesoldiertf27748 ай бұрын
dante wins ngl dante is much faster than goku if you include POC which is roughly 100% canonical so 9th dimensionality and near, if not inaccessible speeds would outclass goku
@kenomega13298 ай бұрын
Dante is 3-dimensional being with 4-dimensional/multi-universal attack potency. He is inaccesible speed at best and Goku solos the verse. All of those claims were roughly 100% correct.
@thesoldiertf27748 ай бұрын
dante is 9th dimensional. goku takes pretty heavy hits and is wounded pretty severely from different Gods, dante on the other hand can survive being impaled by javelins of pure energy created by Mundus, the demon king (he ruled the infinite underworld) and admittedly was pretty wounded, but he healed it off pretty quickly. Dante also managed to defeat (not kill) mundus though with sin devil trigger he would absolutely annihilate him. Dante was able to kill 3 of mundus' 4 creations made to kill him (griffon, shadow and nightmare) nightmare being able to "destroy the infinite underworld" he didn't kill Trish because they were working together and she looked like his mother. Furthermore, Dante survives multiple clashes with vergil and his yamato (which is said to "cut through anything" including the very fabric of dimensionality and time allowing him to create portals to other dimensions I.e. the demon world.) which btw, vergils demonic side, urizen was able to destroy the rebellion, the first time any demon has come even slightly close to doing so, he did this whilst sitting down and not even trying. this is the same dante who went on to then kill urizen, in human form, urizen after consuming the qlipoth fruit which mundus also ate to become the king of the underworld. don't forget that after combining V and urizen makes vergil, who is more powerful than urizen and V combined and this makes Vergil and Dante equal in strength. Dante survives all this by his healing factor and his standard devil trigger which basically increases his AP, speed, armour and endurance, granting him flight/ gliding ability, healing factor and other abilities temporarily. (we have not even gotten on to sin devil yet) and his sin devil trigger which would probably singlehandedly beat goku, it grants him access to immense amounts of armour, hyper armour meaning he cannot be knocked out of it unless it's vergil as they are equal, boosts all of his stats like devil trigger does aside from his healing factor and the ability to teleport to the enemy no matter how far they pratically. sin DT allows him to create black holes from nothing causing the targeted opponent to implode. black holes which have such severe gravity that it would crush anything practically as a result of them spinning on average atleast multiple thousands of times per second. In sin DT, he can also move so fast that time appears slow causing his attacks to appear so fast that you'd have to react at speeds thousands of times faster than light basically. speaking of moving so fast that times appears slowed, he could also do that using his quicksilver style he unlocked at his youngest point in the series (Dmc3) or he could create a clone of himself using doppelganger which more or less doubles his AP. he also has his main 4 styles, RG allowing him to block anything and store it's energy to be released back at the enemy (i mean anything) or trickster enabling him to make very quick dodge manoeuvres and teleport short distances. i will group swordmaster and gunslinger together since they both make him instantly proficient in any weapon he obtains and allows him to shoot any weapon perfectly immediately after finding it. even the yamato he was instantly well versed on how to use (not as well as vergil of course) it in the very short time he had it before giving it to Nero.
@AndresV01826 ай бұрын
Nah
@sulthanarya32814 ай бұрын
@@kenomega1329 Goku ain't soloing shit, dude get outhaxed before it happened
@headlander71194 ай бұрын
@@kenomega1329 Cope, Dante solos.
@tobimadara75399 ай бұрын
Finally someone who has a brain cells I'm sick and tired of DMC scalers they are the worst, not to mention they used the Jung arctypes but the Jung arctypes doesn't scale anywhere, thank you bro.❤
@thesoldiertf27748 ай бұрын
goku meatrider spotted. dante slaughters
@Roger-v3k6 ай бұрын
let me introduce you to royal guard
@jamichealruizАй бұрын
@@thesoldiertf2774Facts All Of Them Are They All Dumb🤦🏽♂️😂😂
@tobimadara7539Ай бұрын
@@Roger-v3ksorry hakai 😂
@ChristianKirboDaPoyo21 күн бұрын
@@tobimadara7539sorry but, hakai doesnt work on people who are similar in power and dante scales above goku, so yes, ROYAL GUARD
@MUIGoku40422 күн бұрын
This is a Joke Video Right 😂? Because We All Know Dante One Shots DBS Verse
@Blue9k Жыл бұрын
Peak vid fr fr
@jayhechar00533 ай бұрын
PLEASE do more VS videos. I love the way you laid this out. Great job!!
@chidorim4st3r53 ай бұрын
My next video is going to be a VS video. I have someone editing it for me and it should be done by later this weekend or early next week
@see3deezz27 күн бұрын
im sorry i love goku but dante stomps he's pretty much what Whis would be in their respected universes hes a spiritual being goku isnt
@E-Man_B-Boy11 ай бұрын
I wish most analysis type of videos where this good ngl
@chidorim4st3r511 ай бұрын
😳
@BrandGon-bd4eo11 күн бұрын
Lmao the amount pf cap in this video is crazy. Yall always giving goku wins for no reason
@abood-oc1fd Жыл бұрын
I disagree with Argosax's immeasurable speed debunk, as it's stated that Argosax's movement which is tranceding time and distance rather than him using a ability or something like that.
@chidorim4st3r5 Жыл бұрын
How is it his speed? It’s stated to be instantaneous movement or teleportation in multiple translations. I bring up the analogy of Minato purely because it’s a similar scenario. As it says transcend space time etc… its not wrong as transcend by definition means to go above the normal limits. The Argosax scan says nowhere that it’s his movement. Only that it is teleportation or instantaneous movement which is Teleportation. Or even straight up state it’s an ability
@chidorim4st3r5 Жыл бұрын
“His ability to dominate the demon world is not for nothing, instantaneous movement that transcends time and distance” “The ability to rule the demon world is not a feat, but a teleportation that transcends time and distance” “He is not a mere specimen of the power that has brought him to dominate the demon world, and he plays tricks on Dante with his instantaneous movement that transcends time and distance” Translations vary but they all reference an ability
@abood-oc1fd Жыл бұрын
@@chidorim4st3r5 instantaneous movement simply refers to movement that's instant rather than teleportation, the only translation that supports that it's a ability is the one saying it's teleportation. To prove it's a ability you would have to prove that the translation which refers to it as teleportation is more valid then the other two which still refer to it as movement rather than some ability.
@chidorim4st3r5 Жыл бұрын
@@abood-oc1fd “His ability to dominate the demon world is not for nothing, instantaneous movement” All I say in the video is that it’s not immeasurable speed and at best it’s infinite speed. Every translation that I could find says ‘ability’. That is why I say it is not immeasurable.
@abood-oc1fd Жыл бұрын
@@chidorim4st3r5 ability could mean skill or proficiency at something, and here it references his ability to rule the demon world rather than his instantaneous movement being a ability. Tranceding could mean to be beyond, here it's explaining how his movement is "instantaneous" and it's explained as "tranceding time and distance" which either means that his movement is beyond time and distance as a whole or his movement is beyond the limitions of time and distance.
@hifty77792 ай бұрын
I think that dante would win, but only barely, wearing goku down then using sin devil trigger to finish a probable wounded weakend goku. but like you said, could go either way really
@pimpdemon94584 ай бұрын
I would like to point out vergil being stated to be able to beat mundus should only refer to the mundus during the end of dmc 3 not dmc 1 mundus Also what game says dante in dt gets 10 times stronger
@chidorim4st3r54 ай бұрын
Yea. I personally believe DMC 1 Mundus is stronger but I just mentioned the scan in the video so I didn’t have people screaming at me for not mentioning it :P It’s one of the guides for DMC 2 which says he can run at ten times his normal speed. There’s a few others which say that the base DT is a 2x amp but. You basically just have to argue that he surpasses the amulet stones in DMC 2 to give him that multiplier in base
@pimpdemon94584 ай бұрын
@@chidorim4st3r5 yeah so about the ten times thats only via quick heart as that part of the guide is talking about amulets and specifficaly speed amulets so it doesnt mean anything for his actually dt increase or the amulet which increases his power aka offence heart
@chidorim4st3r54 ай бұрын
@@pimpdemon9458 yea I get that. I didn’t clarify in the video that it was a 10x to speed.
@pimpdemon94584 ай бұрын
@@chidorim4st3r5 that being said current dt being ten times in power wouldnt be to crazy as i heard dt gets stronger over time or something. Great video still
@shaunbryantjr23554 ай бұрын
You got cord? If so we can discuss this. Dante stomps@@chidorim4st3r5
@Ivanne9052 ай бұрын
Dante with yamato? can he just slice goku?
@Deathy757 ай бұрын
0:18 nah bruh, I was just curious on how strong dante and vergil are, and I always look up goku since everyone in their mother always says "but can he beat goku" At this point goku isn't a character anymore, he's just a meter to see how strong other cool characters are
@omnimaw-cc3 ай бұрын
As long as dante survives goku Kx20 for more than 10 minutes, cus dante has better stamina
@AndruieeokАй бұрын
Honestly, any debate of any character vs one of another is really stupid. But it would be cooler if animations exist for those said characters tbh.
@justalonelyman99411 ай бұрын
Great video
@Mody_emad6015 ай бұрын
I just love how honest this video was I hundred percent agree👍 , and now I wonder..Kain vs Dante who would truly win , the most powerful demon hunter vs a time traveling soul eating blood lusting fate destroying so many thinging divine vampire king
@chidorim4st3r55 ай бұрын
Not sure I know who Kain is but thanks for the compliment! 👍🏼
@Fighter_Z_9000Ай бұрын
Goku is Outer but I'm confident to say that Dante scales higher than 9-D. I have no idea where Dante scales at. I should do more research on him and his cosmology more but I do think Goku wins. Maybe it's a close fight maybe it's not. Both have shown their speed, reflexes, agility, power, abilities, haxes
@miguelsparda21679 ай бұрын
Hello, I really liked your video, sorry if my English is not the best in my opinion Dante has more advantage than Goku in the aspect of resistance without talking about the stamina that Dante completely destroys Goku can also survive the vacuum of space and the radiation of This same Dante has more freedom in a fight in heaven since at the end of the fight Dante will end up tired and Goku will most likely have broken bones and who knows, maybe with several stab wounds, I say this because of his tremendous regeneration superior to Majin's wing. Buu also has an FBR (the one he used in his battle against Mundus) that he could use with Goku and quite complex sealing techniques. He also has a teleportation that is more useful for combat, something similar to Minato's technique but much better so in my opinion opinion the result would be like this 80% Dante and 20% Goku.
@Hunt9-qb1if2 ай бұрын
Dante has not shown any feats in any video game that I have played with the Devil Marees series that would make me even think he could even stand up to Goku for even five seconds
@SoulInfinity5432 ай бұрын
First of all Base Dante From DMC 5 is Stronger Then All Demon Kings Mundus / Pluto / Argosax Mundus Can Create Universes Just With Moving His Wings And He's Stronger Then (Nightmare) Who Was Able to Destroy Demon World Demon World is Infinite Multiverse Including Dimensions Showed in DMC 3 Pluto Can Destroy The 9 Dimensional Souls And Has Beyond Speed Argosax is Demon God Excited in Void Beyond Infinite Dimensions
@jamichealruizАй бұрын
@@SoulInfinity543Facts💯Goku Fanboy Are Dumb Asf😂😂
@lavaughnsosa51112 ай бұрын
Dmc fans can't accept the fact goku is way better, not just fighting or strength. Dbz have a huge influence in the world where we see mangakas and others authors taking inspiration from dbz and goku, rappers, athletes, celebrities loving goku, this man is in the Thanksgiving parade for crying out loud, and in Mexico when goku vs jiren fight was happening thousands of people was there watching it. Goku is top tier of fictional characters of being popular. I'm sorry, dmc fanboys, but dante is cool and all, but he ain't even up their as an influence like goku. Also too you have stan lee one of the creators of Marvel liking goku. Like, who did any yall ever hear people talk or get hype about dmc beside the fans, to the point that dbz has more video games and animated movies that are still talked about to this day. Goku is a big inspiration in Western other countries, so before yall get all butthurt, stop thinking before getting all mad
@MotivatedSonOfSparda2 ай бұрын
Who hurt you?
@lavaughnsosa51112 ай бұрын
@@MotivatedSonOfSparda I'm just telling all these delusional smc fanboys the truth
@lavaughnsosa51112 ай бұрын
@@MotivatedSonOfSparda I'm just telling all these delusional smc fanboys the truth
@lavaughnsosa51112 ай бұрын
Dmc
@MotivatedSonOfSparda2 ай бұрын
@@lavaughnsosa5111 „Delusional dmc fanboys“ bro, who tf hurt you? Hating on dmc for literally no reason lmfao. And btw, dmc defined the hack and slash genre lol. Even masterpieces like gow were inspired by its gameplay, so without dmc there would be no GOW, Bayonetta, nier etc.
@GhostGamerX45664 ай бұрын
As a goku fan dante shit stomps
@headlander71194 ай бұрын
Especially after the DMC novel scans.
@Nothingtoseriousfr2 ай бұрын
Dante gets stomped horribly.
@Nothingtoseriousfr2 ай бұрын
@@headlander7119what novels scans?
@Hunt9-qb1if2 ай бұрын
Boy, you ain’t never seen Goku fight
@Nothingtoseriousfr2 ай бұрын
@weariedllama4948 doesn't change anything.
@Darkslayer19933 ай бұрын
Dante solos the verse. U literally have zero idea about DMC cosmology.
@Goddess-of-rot543 ай бұрын
Mad
@Darkslayer19933 ай бұрын
@@Goddess-of-rot54 Lol Check videos of Dante vs Goku in every single one Goku lost plus and know lore. Get ratioed please. I Literally have no reason to be mad because Dante won in each video lol but whatever helps u get sleep at night.
@Darkslayer19933 ай бұрын
@@Goddess-of-rot54 And secondly this video intentionally nerfed Dante to make it seem like goku has a chance no wonder this video have so less views and likes. Forgot to mention this in my previous comment sorry do check that one out as well.
@Goddess-of-rot543 ай бұрын
@@Darkslayer1993 seems like you are very upset little boy because your boyfriend lost in one video you want to vent your frustration out on me
@Goddess-of-rot543 ай бұрын
@@Darkslayer1993 and just because they don’t buy his higher scaling doesn’t mean they nerfed him it’s called an opinion smooth brain
@WaylonMoone9 ай бұрын
Nah its ok, DB is cool, I just stopped watching after super, I feel it really destroyed its own fandom since it went away from what Toriyama originally wanted Gohan to take over. So rather Goku and vegeta got stronger or not, as a fan of Goku, All You need to do is finished the first game of DMC first game to realize Goku actually… can’t win, the more universes he can destroy, the weaker he’ll be against Dante, plus the dude can’t easily die he literally laughed off heaven made weapons pierced through him. Hes just really tough. Even if hes not as fast, hes very similar to Alucard from helsing where hes almost impossible to kill, multiverse, outerveser, ect, thats all nothing if You cant kill the opponent. So whatever Goku is in now, that wont work to kill him, Mind You I didn’t beat DMC 4-5 yet but just playing the first game Dante was already shown to be fair to place in what if scenario he even makes most Marvel and DC characters like Beyounder look like a child with power, its just not fair guys.
@JadenYubel200Ай бұрын
Dante is 1T+ higher and you said its 4D uni+?
@ChristianKirboDaPoyo21 күн бұрын
dante beat the demon named nightmare who destroyed MULTIPLE infinite multiverses with little to no effot, and its stated nightmare can destroy the demon world with no effort and thats a 10D plane if existance, and dante slapped him with ease, and then dante in DMC 1 slaps mundus who is superior to nightmare, then dante in DMC 2 beats argosax in his final form who becane a legit concept of reality which makes you outerversal, and dante beat him, this was base dante DMC 2 dante by the way Dante in Sin devil trigger is high outversal+ and possible boundless And with outer goku being debunked to multiversal and pretty much only able to cap around to mulitversal due to how the dbs verse is bulit, multiversal is about all we can get for goku from what we've seen Im sorry but i cant see your reasoning
@shoufox92643 ай бұрын
They are very similar. I think it would be a interesting fight. Ima bet money on Dante.
@A_25xs5 ай бұрын
One of the worst debunks i‘ve ever saw💀
@chidorim4st3r55 ай бұрын
😢
@A_25xs5 ай бұрын
@@chidorim4st3r5 Nah Bro I didn’t meant to insult you or something like that I just think that it’s not good,My opinion
@chidorim4st3r55 ай бұрын
@@A_25xs if I were to make this video today, I would’ve been more in-depth but at the time I did not understand the arguments as well as other people did. I still hold roughly the same beliefs, but I would’ve phrased it much better now.
@A_25xs5 ай бұрын
@@chidorim4st3r5 ah ok ok I undertsand
@A_25xs5 ай бұрын
@@chidorim4st3r5 yeah then sorry for the"insult"
@DoomyDoom05 ай бұрын
I hate Dante now because people just love to overrate Dante he used to be so cool but people love to ruin him
@chidorim4st3r55 ай бұрын
Fandoms have the nifty ability to do that. I still really like the series. But I just don’t really like power scaling it because of the many issues with it.
@Espurr.84 ай бұрын
You can say that about most characters in media like xeno Goku people over hype him saying he solo fiction
@A_25xs4 ай бұрын
Bro every character in fiction is overrated and underrated at the same time,you CANT be complete neutral to all fictional characters,everyone always have one favourite that they like more than others
@DoomyDoom04 ай бұрын
@@chidorim4st3r5 same
@KakarotScales09 Жыл бұрын
Its been stated many times in db super guides and diazenzshu that heaven and hell in u7 transcends dimentionality and is above the concept of space and time and goku and beerus as stated by kai’s would have destroyed the whole macrocoosm of u7
@WaylonMoone9 ай бұрын
Look, I watched the whole super, and as a DBZ fan who recently played DMC, just playing the first game shows You Goku is just not a fair opponent for him, hes really powerful, Hes very similar to Alucard from helsing meaning if Goku lets say can do all that, maybe destroy all of reality lets just high ball him, what good is that? Dante will just walk again and eat pizza, the dudes almost unkillable and Goku has no way of killing him where Dante can just easily pierce his skin, And NO if Goku whos caught off guard in ss1 can get hurt by a rock, and god blue being one shotted by Hit whos JUST AN ASSASSIN with no actual power feats other then just a skilled assassin which if You seen super would know his (Time skip shinanagins were all debunk by both Whis and Vados) attacks aren’t really that strong and if anything at most its jusr illusions.
@soulzakira6060Ай бұрын
Is this SMT Dante? Or just DMC 5 Dante
@chidorim4st3r5Ай бұрын
@@soulzakira6060 just DMC 5 + games and novels. SMT Dante would scale way higher
@soulzakira6060Ай бұрын
@@chidorim4st3r5 Okay thank you can’t wait too see a more in depth debunk video because besides the inconsistencies from what I heard that’s all I see
@chidorim4st3r5Ай бұрын
@@soulzakira6060 there is a few things other than just visual inconsistencies. They can be interpreted a different way along with some stuff about the discord mods for pinnacle of combat.
@Ramin-pp3wk8 ай бұрын
Dante should win, Dante is more badass
@tladideluxe50182 ай бұрын
Goku wins this. Look at 17 and 18 with their inexhaustible energy, Trunks took them out in ssj1. Even regeneration abilities wouldn’t work, he defeated majin buu who has by far the best regenerative abilities in db. I don’t think Dante can survive a kamehameha head on , let alone UI level kamehameha. It would disintegrate him, unless he can survive that
@BrandGon-bd4eo4 күн бұрын
Lmfao you def dont know dante or dmc at all.
@tladideluxe50184 күн бұрын
@@BrandGon-bd4eookayyy… source?
@angelhalo67438 ай бұрын
I got my money on dante mostly because dante is extremely hard to kill bros healing factor is so good dante is reckless and shrugs off getting impaled, not only that but dantes hax abilities are broken like royal gaurd which creates a demonic force field and not to mention the Yamato vergils's katana which can legit cut through space and time and lets not forget about his devil trigger with not only boot his power but heals him and the he has sin devil trigger on top of that which is an absurd power boots
@Hunt9-qb1if2 ай бұрын
Well, you gonna be broke when it’s all said and done
@mryoung60902 ай бұрын
@@Hunt9-qb1ifnah he gonna be rich with this one. Dante in his SDT murks Goku in MUI
@Hunt9-qb1if2 ай бұрын
Goku would mop the floor with Dante and I love, devil may cry 😂
@socialbreak86208 ай бұрын
This video is by far the worst scaling and debunking I've seen on this community, I've seen and slammed Faxual so yeah. Anyways Goku gets winconned by an average fodder demon within DMC and we can run that anytime of the week.
@chidorim4st3r58 ай бұрын
discord.gg/p2pasm4f server I’m in where people debate this if you’re interested
@kenomega13298 ай бұрын
Dante no pasa de multiversal wey, no mames. Goku solos wey. 🌮
@A_25xs4 ай бұрын
@@chidorim4st3r5bro do you really WANT to debate with SOCIALBREAK?!
@chidorim4st3r54 ай бұрын
@@A_25xs I don’t debate myself. But I know other people are passionate about it. I’ve said my piece and that’s it
@NovaPrime-91Ай бұрын
Glad somebody debunked the 9D dmc thing it just doesn't make sense
@chidorim4st3r5Ай бұрын
I’m actually making another debunk video. Basically to do it in my own words along with more new info. The one in this video and the extended cut is fine, but it wasn’t scripted and I didn’t know the arguments as good.
@SoulInfinity543Ай бұрын
@@chidorim4st3r5 Your First Debunk Was Already Stupid Enough And You Still Wanna Make Another One 🙃
@SoulInfinity543Ай бұрын
@ClappingSuccubusCheeks Because They Know Goku Doesn't Stand Chance Against Dante So They Start Yapping About DMC Lore To Give Goku The Victory 😂
@chidorim4st3r5Ай бұрын
@@SoulInfinity543 😢
@MenmaKazama11 күн бұрын
Dante solos
@orochieditzz3 ай бұрын
Downplaying dante to 4d meanwhile he is above the concept of time and space and has 9D scane is indane😂
@chidorim4st3r53 ай бұрын
😱
@Nothingtoseriousfr2 ай бұрын
9D scan was from a mobile game which isn't canon, so that's been debunked by poc and dimensional scaling is dumb regardless as 9D doesn't equate to higher AP or DC, much less speed.
@soulzakira6060Ай бұрын
@@Nothingtoseriousfryea but you can’t a being that’s in higher dimension 5D can’t be hurt by 4D
@NothingtoseriousfrАй бұрын
@soulzakira6060 that would be pretty useless as dimensionality doesn't mean much in a fight unless your scaling It off AP/DC. Goku can also travel to otherworld, a metaphysical realm that transcends dimensionality.
@user-qx1id1dt8x10 ай бұрын
Dante would wipe his ass with goku
@Hunt9-qb1if2 ай бұрын
You got it backwards
@mryoung60902 ай бұрын
@@Hunt9-qb1ifno he’s correct
@ChefboyardFlizzy10 ай бұрын
Dante somehow lost to Bayonetta on a death battle KZfaq match lmfaoo 😂🤣😂🤣😂soooo respectfully Goku will definitely be no exception. All these debunks doesn't even matter no more, people will see it out how they all see fit at the end of the day. Goku surpasses Dante in every aspect in a fight and has way to many power ups to his advantage. This battle is very one sided actually and not even close. 💯💯💯💯
@matiasmyyra177710 ай бұрын
Are you blind or something? Watch the video to end and u will see who really won
@DeathDemon34610 ай бұрын
No dante won watch again
@WaylonMoone9 ай бұрын
Sorry fam, not gonna happen, Goku can’t really kill Dante, and the dude is almost never serious, if so, goku wouldn’t win. Goku beat foes who wanted to destroy the world or enslave their own multiverse, Dante beat an actual opponent who could kill Immortol zamasu even Hits attack mean nothing. Dante wins this, and I’m a DB fan by the way, but this is just cap, Dante can’t realistically lose to Goku its just not possible.
@marklawrancecalar2048 ай бұрын
Can goku beat anos voldigoad
@mryoung60902 ай бұрын
Dante won lol you need to watch that shit again
@shoufox92643 ай бұрын
They are very similar. I think it would be a interesting fight. Ima bet money on Dante.