Read fouther down saw your explanation on hi rpm That might been the same reas most of his stuff found its was into s10 v8 conversion and light stuff. I always wanted tourq I like 4x4 I actually like the old 400 fords for that reason rebuild they could be low rpm monsters.

You hit the nail on the head right there@@tbjtbj4786and thanks a million for stopping by man. Not only did you hit the solid, but it's actually the reason I got this engine for free. Stop light to stop light performance a 327 will walk all over a 350, but after that the 350 will power out the 327. In the 90's everything Racing started to shift to the 8th mile tracks (along with legalized "closed street" racing) as full quarter mile tracks were shutting down and getting harder and harder to find, so you see a lot more of the short stroke, high rpm, snappy quick builds like this. The guy that had this one, tried to put it in a 3/4 ton 4x4 to haul firewood out of the mountains. It was a DOG, so he pulled it, gave it to us, and put a stock BBC in it. 4x4's you want the BBQ effect.... low and slow turning RPM to take advantage of all the Torque you can get so you aren't just spinning your tires and breaking stuff. That 400 of yours is actually a good choice for that, because that is exactly what it was made to do from Ford. It's a good foundation to build off of to do what you want it to do.... if that makes sense. Again, good stuff, and thanks for stopping in man.

Higher revs

Even tho GM is junk common sense they made 327 from 62-68 350 from 67 -2002.......

You people make me laugh when I see your stories on Facebook and I have to say wtf people seriously people don't have a clue to what they are doing

Thanks Tim and right back at ya man!

Way cool man and thanks for stopping in.

hey there Alva, great seeing you man! And thank you for doing that video man, keep them coming man!

I'm positive that is what they where doing with this as well, & thanks for stopping in Kevin!

Thanks Ary! yeah..... I seem to be a magnet for the baskets.... lol And that old Pellet Stove... .yeah..... it gets it just warm enough in here to keep my fingers from sticking to the tools, and a warm place to set my coffee cup to keep it from freezing.... lol.

Yeah you have to do some detective work when playing with older Chevy stuff. You never know what other people did to them.

Thanks a million for that man! I'll tell ya, Pete & Minnie are two of the BEST people I've ever met! Really like those two "colorful angels"

Sweet, sounds like you really got something there! People don't realize just what goes into these "Barn Find" vehicles, and 9 times out of ten it's exactly what you fixed right there. Thanks for stopping in my friend and good to hear you got her back on the road where she's happy to be!

Lot of the trucks, esp 3/4 and 1 ton got 4 bolt mains, steel cranks were common.

very true Jim

if you got 100 thousand miles before a rebuild out of an old 283/327 you did well. Many mid seventies 350 probably would crack the heads . Todays engine designs will run forever .

That thing comes in super handy! I gotta thank the guy that gave me this again.... Thanks again Cousin Mike! lol.

Used my headlamp to do a cooking video on the smoker tonight! Love it!

I think you are exactly right man. and thanks for stopping in!

@@jarepair7429 yeah it's definitely a de-stroked 350. Whoever built it was probably doing a budget RPM build

You bet and thanks for stopping in Darren!

My 010 block has 2 bolt mains. I thought the 010 meant it was a 350.

Yeah, the 010 sbc can really throw a lot of people because they came in so many varieties, the 2 bolt mains where "usually" found in pickups and trucks, but they did find their way into cars as well. @@r1learner178

Thanks for stopping in Chris. Yeah, I think it started life as a 350 but when it needed re-built, they de-stroked it with a 327 crank. Pretty common back in the day to make cheap High RPM performance. Good combo for a light car, but not a good choice for a 4x4 that the guy used to get firewood in the mountains with, so he gave it to me.

Thanks for the info man, and thanks for stopping in man! I'll find something around here to drop this thing into..... one of these days... lolololol.

You are correct. All 327 cranks are forged not cast. He should look at the number on the crank.

I was about to ask about the 327 corvette, I have a 72 Malibu and a mechanich buddy told me he was pretty sure it has a 327 corvette in it. Aiming to put it in a 64 c10.

I hear ya man.... this thing has been around the block a few times for sure! Now to figure out not what it was..... but what it is now..... so I can do something else to it..... lol

Hello there Tightwad64 good to see ya and thanks for stopping in man. It's been ages since I did this video and have pushed it to the back in storage awaiting something I can drop it down into, but if I get back into there I'll take a look to make sure.

I did pull the casting numbers on the crank, and it comes out as a Cast 327 as well. This whole thing, (as I keep diving into it) is a really common story of "failure" and how I've actually came across some of these "good" rebuilds. I'll give you the backstage skinny on all this..... lol. What has happened is the guy wanted Horsepower and forgot about Torque. So after reading a bunch of Hot Rod Magazines he took this wore out 350 into the machine shop and told them "This is what I want". They gave him what he wanted, and he dropped it into his 4x4 truck to haul wood with...... and it was a DOG! Pissed him off so he yanked it right out and dropped a stock 454 in it and was happy. To this day he cuss' small block's because he was lied to about how much Horsepower they make and that is exactly why he gave it to Cousin Mike, and then Mike gave it to me. Everything is pointing to a high RPM, high hp build..... but he was actually wanting a High Torque slower spinning combo for a 4x4 truck to crawl around in the woods & pack weight. Happens a lot around here when people throw money at the machine shop, without listening to those that know this stuff.... lol. ((that painted up one that's sitting on the engine stand in the back, same thing. Denny bought that from the machine shop. It came out of one of his racecars. Denny dropped it into that C30 1 ton stock truck to haul cows with to the sale (it has the 14 foot livestock bed on it) and used to bad mouth the shop he bought it from. "I don't know how he wins races, because that motor he sold me didn't work any better than the stock one I had in there." When I drove it home I could see why...... it has a cam in it that doesn't come in until you hit 3500..... lol. That thing must've bounced those calves alll over in there as he was banging gears to get them to the sale.... lol ))

Never saw a 4-bolt 327. They went to the large journal cranks in '68 so they could start using cast steel crankshafts. Many 4- bolt blocks came with cast cranks, but the true high perf engines had 3.48 stroke forged cranks in them. All 400's were cast crankshaft, 2 or 4 bolt block.

Here in southeast Ga they do this for circle track engines

That's definitely what it looks like and thanks for stopping in man!

Ain't that the Truth Joe...... lololololol I find a lot of them in pickups that are for sale, or at car shows ..... lol.

That's the beauty of Chevy... Extremely versatile

The 6.0 rods in a 350 would increase the dwell time correct? But in a 350, what is the advantage over a 5.7" rod? I know that in 383 Stroker there is advantages for the high RPM ranges.

@@LionWithTheLamb Better rod/ratio. In most cases theres really no noticeable difference. if youre gonna spin it to the moon then long rod every time

Ih yes they did

@@toddrichardson9256 that's a 350 block 327 crank and rods

Yeah the crank is definitely a 327. Someone some time ago was building this thing for RPM. Why we found it in a 3/4 ton wood hauler is beyond me though. Probably the only thing they had and needed that truck to run.

Ouch!

Unless you have a wrong block?? 67 never had a large journal crankshaft! Large journal came in at 68 on up

Spot on man 👍

There should be a casting number…350 and 305 cranks had the same casting numbers i remember reading somewhere…if you put a 350 crank in a 305 or vice versa you will have an out of balance condition since the bores are different..

Those manifolds will bolt right onto any of the small blocks.

@@BareRoseGarage yes but who is going to pull off rams horn manifolds which perform well for those 70s junk ones

Man I'd love to hear your take on this as well, and oh yeah you don't know for sure, until you get in there and see for sure. Especially when you see signs of OPS (other people's shyte) in it to go along with the confusion... lol. 4 inch bore Chevys... it really is the Lego Engine of all of them. Anything will fit anything, so you Everything in them. Funny thing about the 0010 Blocks..... in this day and age, I actually don't mind the 89-95 TBI or TPI blocks. They're lighter, 4 bolt main and come set up for Roller Cams. Swap the older heads on them and toss those TBI's in the scrap bin and you can make a butt load of power with them. But they came so choked up with all that factory crap on them no one wants them. I think we were talking about all this at the NNN's..... lol. Anyway..... would love to see your video on this as well man. Tag me in it with the @ thing so I don't miss it.

Only to see if it's a cast iron or steel but you still have to pull the oil pan off to see the casting numbers, or if your experience is like mine ,I can identify it just by looking at the whole crankshaft

​@@BareRoseGarageMOPAR engine blocks were thicker.... FACTS Papaw always said GM is junk

@@BareRoseGarage 010, 020 is just a mark to show where it was cast far as I know No such thing as high nickel super blocks. Gms race blocks were a bit tougher. Ive heard my machinist say if anything more tin could help but really didnt matter Bought a new 4 bolt 350 from P.A.W. right before they closed up. Better castings nobody has hacked on it before If I was to do another 327 Id start with a good 350 block guys want a fortune for used up 327s. Ever had a balancer fly off? fun.

hey there joe, good to see ya man! I'd love to find another set of Vortec's and have them drilled for the center intake bolts, but this build is slated for a vintage Tunnel Ram that I'm not allowed to modify.... lol. This whole build is focused around that Tunnel Ram & Muncie 4 speed. You are dead on man..... they flow better than any of the older ones, and with that simple mod, it makes them almost bulletproof. As for the cracking issues...... I've only really seen that happen when they overheat. And overheating means there's issues elsewhere.... lol.

There sure are

Spot On 220% correct man! Right down to the cross hatch on the cylinder walls. Story is, this thing has CM rings in it...... and if it does, I'm seeing issues right there already and I haven't even dove that deep into it yet.... lol. How's that song go? Once Bit Twice Shy?..... lol

@@BareRoseGarage LOL pretty much!

Sounds like a 283. The 283 isn't a bad little engine, but there is one drawback to them (as well as the 327 small journal) in that they are only a 3.75" bore. Same size as the infamous 305's of the 80's and 90's. Because of the smaller bore you can't put 4" bore heads on them because the valves will hit the deck. Hope that helps and thanks for stopping in man!

All 327 had a 4 inch bore and a 3.25 inch stroke

Not sure off hand, I'd have to pop it back open. This one was kind of a 1 off addition, as Cousin Mike of Landon Custom Classics didn't have a place to store it, so he gave it to me. I give him most of my Fords and he sends his Chevy stuff my way.... lol.

Thanks for stopping in David! Yeah, it comes up as a 327 (2-bolt main) crank. Back in the day, this was actually a "backyard hot rod" trick with these 350's. I'll bet dimes for dollars that this thing has been bored over with this crank to make it a high RPM 335?

Way cool Mitch! I'll do my best to remember that for when I deep dive into these once I have them off man! I just got it sealed back up to get it ready for the Easy Off and deep freeze lol

Suffix code the last H is for Holley intake and carb, R is for a Rochester type carb . I have two Holley cast 327 intakes

Just use a 4 bolt 350 block

You caught that when I popped that pan off there... Lololol. Yeah if you've popped a few of these open you can see right away what you are looking at! Thanks for stopping in and you are spot on man!

Spot on user!

That plug doesn't mean 4 bolt. Why do you need a 4 bolt on a street engine ,only if you race and beat it to death will A 4 bolt main ever help.

Very true man. People think the 2 bolt main is a butter weak engine, but you can lay 500hp to them and they will live just fine. Heck I've seen even higher numbers on them, and they are still running. It's only when you go Extreme that the 4 bolt really shines. @@johnmcentyre5806

I’ve personally got a 010 4 bolt block I swapped over to a LJ 327 just like the video. My block is a 74 and comes up as a possible 302, 327, or 350 but they stopped producing the 302 and 327 in 69. I’ve always gone off the crank flange like you showed for a quick reference but that’s only good for 74 or 75 and earlier engines. Also should mention 350 and 400 flanges are almost identical as well. Best way to tell for sure is the casting number on the crank itself.

I agree since I've also seen that a 4-bolt main 327 was never made available to the public - They DID make a couple for R&D purposes but that was it and that was probrably part of the R&D that went into developing the 350. However, in the case of this particular engine they could have used a stock 307 crank since it's a large journal crank and because of that it will go right in a 350 block BUT it has the same stroke as a 327 crank. That means you take a 307 crank, use 327 pistons and rods.... You're set to build a 4-bolt main 327 if you want to. An added bonus to a 307 crank is they were all forged steel cranks, none were made of cast iron and that's why you'd want one if doing a build like this. I could tell right away it was a 350 block because it was a 4-bolt main.

Spot on man, yeah this one "was" a 350, but it's been de-stroked with the 327 crank when it was re-built some time ago. Makes for a good snappy little small block.

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That's a lot of the difference you are seeing on that tail piece I show in the thumbnail picture. The 327 is dished to balance it for the 327, where as the 350 isn't..... you can also see the difference in the counter weights on the crank itself.

@@BareRoseGarage there is one other crankshaft that looks the same but very different, the 262 has a 3 1/8 stroke and the rear flange tapers inward... so you can take my advice or not! And learn on your own by time loss .

Thanks for stopping in Larry! yeah, it comes up as 327 as well. Someone, sometime or another has put a 327 crank in here. The fun of dissecting what other people have done over the years.

Yep, spot on man and thanks for stopping in! Somewhere in this things life, someone has de-stroked it back down to a 327. I think they where going for RPM, but out here in farm country it's hard to tell.... it very well could be just what they could find at the time to get it back running again. Thats the fun with Chevy's that have been around the block a few times..... you never know what you are going to get until you deep dive into them... lololol.

@@BareRoseGarage that's true. Whatever you can find to get it to run. I've often said growing up we could not fix it then we just did without. Lot of rubber bands and chewing gum

That's exactly what the guy before me was doing with this one... Lololl

Use a 350 block, way cheaper. For a truck id go for a 400 or stroke the 350 just put a 327 decal on the air cleaner. You want a lot of torque to move a heavy truck.

Well hello there lomsomesGarage thanks for stopping in! That's one heck of a shop you got there man! I've picked up a couple of those 2bolts for the "get them out of here" price, simply because they thought they were junk. Then they were shocked when they seen how good and long they ran. Absolutely nothing wrong with a 2 bolt, because my wallet isn't big enough to actually hurt them... lol.

The casting numbers and counterweight all show that it's a 327 large journal but for a 2 bolt main, so from what I can figure it's a de-stroked 350, probably 30 over.... that was a pretty common thing to do back in the day.

Thanks for stopping by swoop. Dropping a soda straw down a sparkplug hole and measuring the stroke is definitely a way to get a general idea, since all 010 blocks are 4" bores, but I've found with Chevy's it's always a good idea to go deep into them. That away you find what other people have done to them in the past. Like in this case, Chevy never built a 4 bolt main 327, so this is a de-stroked 350 that's been custom built to come all in at higher RPM.

I was thinking pulling the heads that way you also get to see what they did.

Yep, and this this is definitely a hodge podge of a little of everything loloololol

The 283 is a bit different, they fall into the same category (family) as the small journal 327 & ended with the 305's in the early 1990's with the 3 & 3/4" Bore. Good little engines though!

Hello there KT good to see ya. Yeah, I didn't want to pop the pan off just yet because I needed to keep it sealed up until after I pressure washed it, so I'm kind of showing you how to get an idea of what it is from the outside. Curiosity got the better of me so I went ahead and popped it off though and I'm glad I did. You can also tell by the counterweights, but I left that one out because it's harder to explain without a side-by-side comparison.

Can you help Id

Right now I have that one back in storage, but you are correct. It's actually a 350 block, but someone has put a 327 crank in it when it was rebuilt. That was a pretty common thing to do back in the day to build a higher RPM sbc, and make a pretty hot little mouse motor.

Yeah, this has defiantly been built for some specific reason.... they de-stroked this 350 to make it a 327.

You're exactly right Chevrolet never made a 4-bolt main 327

We used to take 2 core plug 327 make 4 bolts out of them

In a Cameo! wow, that is one sweet truck as well!

@@BareRoseGarage my grandpa rented a room to a drifter from Montana that brought that Cameo with him.. it sat 24 years that I know of.. He passed away a year ago and I gave g-pa $1000 for it. I think it was a "motorsport" GM 67-68 engine. and someone was racing that Cameo.. someone even braised a water temp fitting on the intake..

@@nobiden3134 That is so cool man, I LOVE to hear stories like this. Probably why I like Hot Rods, and "Rat Rods" over Numbers Matching Restos..... they tell a better story than what GM does with plane Jane stock stuff. "What's that scrape down the side aren't you going to fix that?" No that's where I hit it with the Lawn Mower as a kid, when Grandpa was teaching me to mow the lawn..... kind of stuff. That brazed in temp fitting isn't a flaw... it's a masterpiece IMO.

@@BareRoseGarage and the stories old timers tell when they see your classic. "I used to have one of those..."

@@BareRoseGarage Restored, perfect cars are over rated. To see guys do that then say"Now I cant drive it'... oh god wanna slap em! Finally painted mine and made it nice but still drove it even in rain it didnt melt Was happy most times with primer and centerlines/rallyes just make it run and drive good .