Tune it to Stage 2 and u shud be pushin bout 400 hp. I only went Stage 1 with my CS MK7 though for relability headroom... 👍

@@tredfxman How’s the wheelspin?

@@FamousDMagnificent Well as its winter & snow here in sweden its no optimal time for racing. Apart from that abit of wheelspin now and then can acually be fun! But im gona be honest and say i dont dare to push it to max in slippery winter conditions anyway. Once you get grip though, the rocket set of into the horizon! 👍

@@tredfxman I’m seriously considering the GTI CS, but I’m not sure because of the wheelspin and the day to day usability. But if you say that it’s not that bad in Sweden I shouldn’t have issues here in Croatia.

@@FamousDMagnificent brilliant car but just don't expect to be able to launch it even in dry weather

The R is such a good value if you are already at the clubsport level. The AWD gets you better launches and helps with traction. Best value is getting a GTI and using a JB4 to get to the Cs HP, you wouldn't even need to add anything else.

@@catinthehat5140 Why not just get a full ecu

@arisgolseen2693 when I made that comment the ECU hadn't been hacked.

Bidde😬🙏

Manual Transmission would fix that issue right up

​@@jamiegarth3146 Not in this case because, it has one less gear so a mechanical disadvantage. Still prefer manual though, so much more driver involvement.

@@JFinns poor ppl love manuals also

In the UK, the difference between the two is just £2k. I value 4WD so well worth the extra for me.

golf r is better.

@@Leozyoo 💔

Thanks for watching😬🙏

Also mein 2019er golf r macht gps 4.6sekunden 0-100 also warum holy shit

@@mirane.630 Und in wie fern macht es das weniger beeindruckend? Auch der 7er war nicht langsam. Vor einigen Jahren gehörten solche Zeiten aber nicht in die Golf-Klasse.

Die Preise aber auch nicht. Wer zahlt denn 50.000 +/- für einen Golf??🤣👎

Mindestens einer in dieser Konversation 😅

@@mirane.630 Aba sicher ned Serie :))

i would go with the n30n or maybe the veloster for the special look .. OR yaris GR

Starts at €62410? Still crazy expensive

Way way overpriced

Compared to the price in Denmark that's a bargain. Here it starts at €100.800

what is wrong with all your countrys😄i would never pay about 35k for a 4 cylinder. maybe theres a way to ship it from germany. next summer the golf 8 r will go down to 38000€ here in germany.

😅....da muss ich wohl mal runter in Keller gehen und nachschauen🤪

I agree. starting anywhere below 100 kph to go over the 100 kph mark up to the 200 kph does not tell anything precisely. How to reproduce this maybe for comparison reasons if you don't have a specific starting speed? Driving a constant 100 kph and then start accelerating is the way to go!

It's not just the 4x4 lmao

He has the best quality

2017 GTI sport manual with APR1, love it too.

Der Cupra sieht halt aus wie ne Dose Mett... Die Form finde ich grässlich, aber ist natürlich wie immer Geschmackssache.

Kein Vergleich

Cupra looks like a Mazda.

Ja stimmt. Die wenigen Farben beim R sind ein Nachteil:(

Standardfarbe Weis nehmen und ab zum Folierer. Ist eine Alternative

Das geht natürlich immer😬👍

was looking for that too. Would be a nice idea to show that!

Is an idea, let us think about how to integrate that.

@@Automann-TV compress the 3 videos and play the acceleration side by side so that it fits in frame 😅that would be the easiest way

🙏

Really, if you spec it the same way? I mean if you leave out the Akrapovic option like in the GTI Clubsport!?

@@Automann-TV yep, that’s not even adding the exhaust to the R, so like with like, €55k vs €65k for the R. Which is allot for a VW. Currently in a M2 2017, N55. Only complaint is it’s a little harsh on the daily drive, a bit thirsty, but sounds amazing.

Klang ist Geschichte seit der OPF. Und beim 4 Zylinder auch. 😂

Also das Infotainment braucht definitiv etwas Umgewöhnung vom alten her kommend. Aber wenn man erstmal weiß wo die Funktionen liegen gehts. Auch die Performance ist mittlerweile in Ordnung wenn man nicht in der ersten Minute nach dem Start alle Untermenüs öffnen möchte. Privacy Einstellungen zum Beispiel brauchen nen Moment aber dann läufst👍....wird sicherlich nicht schlechter in den nächsten Wochen/Monaten.

Welcome in 2022 bro Skip that manual

@CS Clubsport Hier wird mit Winterrädern gefahren.

FWD suckssss

Nah m8 let's be real. That R is a freakin machine. Everyone would prefer the R.

We chose the cs Keeps you on your toes Stage 2 now with 458.9bhp havent had a mk8 R yet show me clean heels even with the same state of tune too 😂

Not huge but it's there of course

You're totally right. What I don't like is that VW didn't put a Limited Slip Differential on the golf 8 gti clubsport

I don´t think so. The GTI has always been like this, a fast car for everyday use with a slightly sportier exterior design that won´t make a 40 year old guy question to buy it or not because of how it looks (...Civic...) The Clubsport is a version of the GTI for those who like extra performance and a more agressive looks that wouldn´t appeal to everyone if it was the only version on sale. But we can of course discuss the pricing, I think VW just ask for a premium price tag just becasue it is a Golf, so both cars should be cheaper. Especially in this mk8 version, which has a downgraded quality interior.

@@johnnynebunu8506 Wait, they didn't even install their clutch based locking differential, the VAQ? That'd be crazy. I mean I know that the VAQ is not a complete mechanical LSD (like Quaife or Wavetrac) like they should have installed but it's better than having an open diff, no?

@@bokiNYC They've put a VAQ, but it's just plain stupid because vw golf 7 gti performance has a LSD and the mk8 gti cs it's just with a WAQ. :(

@@johnnynebunu8506 the golf 7 performance, clubsport and tcr also had the vaq. Golfs never had classic LSD.

Ich persönlich würde den R nehmen👍

@@Automann-TV 👍💪

Jede andere Antwort ist gelogen oder Neid! Natürlich R wenn!!

@@stefank.2911 ....nahhhhh, wer hat Dir denn diesen Floh ins Ohr gesetzt...

Die Werte und Eigenschaften vom R zeigen halt immer Überlegen gegenüber dem Opfer GTI.😀 Und nein, ich habe keinen, ich fahre einen BMW M140i. 👌👍

They’re actually not as bad as they look. Takes some Getting used to but with the driver assistance systems they’re quite good

but lose out on AWD.. not worth it for me as a DD. I cry in shame everytime my mk7 GTI(stage 1) wheelspins from 0.. who cares if you have all that power if you cant properly put it on the ground.. nobody does rolling races on the street

Da es ein Haldex System ist, wird die Hinterachse automatisch entkoppelt sobald genügend Traktion an der Vorderachse vorhanden ist. Es kann eh lediglich maximal 50% des Antriebsmoments auf die Hinterachse geleitet werden und das niemals manuell. Der Driftmode betrifft lediglich die Kraftverteilung zwischen den beiden hinteren Rädern. Grundsätzlich ist also die Annahme in vielerlei Hinsicht falsch und würde selbst wenn sie zutreffen würde keinen Effekt auf die Beschleunigung haben.

just get the DCC option. It will be a bit stiffer I assume

Will warranty avoid if I just change the fully legal downpipe and catback?

@@per2367 You can put anything you want if it's legal and certificated on your country

@@dan-kt8pg I mean legal Milltek catless downpipe and non resonated catback. Can I put them?

@@per2367 i don’t think so

simply add the 0-100 'seconds' into the 100-200 'seconds' and u can get a very close result of 0-200

Do you think its because the r looses power at the wheels more than the fwd clubsport?

The turbo, oil cooler, intercooler Basically it’s the mk8 R engine just not tuned from factory to 320

Kia i think hahaha

Maybe 160-170, it just looked fast.. "Flew by" is something else on German Autobahn, believe me ;)

@@dapluq5961 to be pulling away like that? Def 220+kph

@@spookyreaper1702 it just looked that fast because we didn't even drove 100 kph at this point, if you stand at the highway the cars who drive 100-130 kph look superfast too

@@spookyreaper1702 you can even see it because when we hit 150kph the car in front isnt pulling away that hard anymore

Yes, seems to be less👍

Wenn man in D ist ja, wenn man in S ist nicht

@@Podzemlje2012obelix D und S gibt es nicht im manuellen Modus

@@G3ddoN Doch, du musst den Sportmodus an haben, dann schaltet er nicht von alleine

Puh, I don’t have the figures in mpg but they are very similar amongst all of the if you drive them normally/equally.

Hi Automann, is the club sport a harder ride in comfort over the standard gti in comfort? Or are they the same in comfort??

normal gti 245hp

probably hit a little bump

The R is faster on Autobahn, too

The cs would be more fun to drive because of traction issues 🥳

@@spookyreaper1702 you can use the driftmode in R for that.

@@Sierra-hk8jw In the real world 0.1 seconds difference 100 to 200 is nothing and that is the speeds most people drive on an autobahn.

@@cmpillred277 you are right, but why should i buy a GTI? Slower 0-100 and same 100-200 🤷‍♂️ What is the difference at price??

They gotta make power and be conform to emission regulations hahaha. Explains why they make so much more power with simple exhaust and remap mods.

2,5 bar is the absolute pressure. The boost pressure is 1,5 bar.

@@WaveCeptor22 ah now it makes more sense

Well he can't drive then. Simple.

We swapped cars a couple of times, the GTI was always quicker. But after 70mph, the M3 definitely had the edge. All in all it’s largely irrelevant, today an e30 M3 is motoring nirvana, but a mk5 GTI is a shopping trolley.

Absolut, wegen einem Zehntel brauchen wir hier nicht diskutieren, die sind 100-200 etwa gleich schell. Alle Golf 8 sind deutlich leiser auf der Autobahn als die Golf 7.5

@@Automann-TV alles klar! Danke für die Antwort. Machst ihr noch ein Fahrvideo vom Clubsport. Quasi, wo ihr über das Fahrverhalten redet?

No VW can't. 3.2 V6 has too much emission nowadays, it would not be legal. It's Downsizing from now on

270 kph

Same result as the Clubsport probably.

We did:) Check out our video about that;)