GOLF: How The Pros Get The Perfect Impact Position

GOLF: How The Pros Get The Perfect Impact Position - Setup Vs. Impact In Detail

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5 жыл бұрын

How The Pros Get The Perfect Impact Position - Setup Vs. Impact In Detail
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In this video I’m showing you side-by-side what the best players look like at address and at impact. I want you to see that while they all swing the club differently, they all come back to the same spot at impact. I’ll point out what you should look for in the perfect impact position and then I show you how to implement.
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@golfnut69 5 жыл бұрын

You’re a genius Eric. Like gold dust amongst the teaching golf profession. Thank you!!

@CogornoGolf 5 жыл бұрын

@nigel4321 5 жыл бұрын

great stuff Eric. This is now my 'Duck, turn and twist' drill! That's my swing thought and it seems to be working. Thanks

@CogornoGolf 5 жыл бұрын

Haha love it!!

@JC-eq7jx 5 жыл бұрын

Absolutely superb piece of instruction!!

@CogornoGolf 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks JC!

@MrLayLake Жыл бұрын

Practicing by getting stationary at the impact position is a great help. As you say, reverse engineering helps you get the body in position to respond and correctly execute. BIG HELP is keeping the right arm slightly bent on the downswing. That really necessitates rotating the hips instead of swinging with shoulders and arms. This teaching, alone will get the hands slightly ahead of the ball at impact resulting in the release of the arms and wrists at impact......and not before. Amazing how much more solid contact is when you do this.

@CogornoGolf Жыл бұрын

Love it Tim! Glad this one helped!

@A1PrimeTimeMovies 5 жыл бұрын

This is something I really need to work on. Thanks for the upload.

@CogornoGolf 5 жыл бұрын

Hope it helps!

@youngguns996 5 жыл бұрын

Hello Eric, I'm a big fan. Thank You for another video with great content and excellent instruction. You break down the swing and golf game in a manner that all golfers can relate to.

@CogornoGolf 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Enrique! Appreciate the kind words my friend!

@alvor2762 Жыл бұрын

This is really excellent instruction and information. I believe if people, including myself, were made to do this drill at the outset when learning this game, then there would be far more better golfers out there. This exercise is invaluable. Are there better instructors out there that have the ability to demonstrate and who are verbally able to get this instruction across to us - I doubt it very much. Eric, many thanks for all you give to us.

@CogornoGolf Жыл бұрын

Appreciate your kind words and support, Rich! Thank you!!

@philipchan1856 4 жыл бұрын

Priceless! I dun see any swing pro in Sg taught that to their students ...

@paoloteruzzi295 3 жыл бұрын

Amazing video. Really 100% understandable

@CogornoGolf 3 жыл бұрын

Appreciate it, Paola!

@rgmccarthy 5 жыл бұрын

Master of the golf swing. Excellent communicator. GOLF CHANNEL, ARE YOU LISTENING?

@CogornoGolf 5 жыл бұрын

@rgmccarthy 5 жыл бұрын

@@CogornoGolf Eric, I did take the liberty of texting the Golf Channel. I said that I was sure they were already aware of you, but as a big fan of yours and the Golf Channel, I saw a great match for current or future programming. I told them, and I believe, that serious golfers would flock to any show of yours on that network. I'll let you know if I get a response -- but at least, hopefully, they're listening. Bob

@CogornoGolf 5 жыл бұрын

Appreciate that, Bob! Very kind of you!

@pickleball_tomorrow 4 жыл бұрын

I completely agree.

@rikardzetterstrom524 5 жыл бұрын

Good explanation! Some years ago, a trainer I had often told me to keep my head at about the same level through the swing. And I did went lower with my head and chest in the downswing. So I got to use drills that forced me to feel that my upper body moved away from the ground. At that time, and even sometimes now, I also struggled with some early extension. But is that why I was told to feel like I described above? Got a little confused there! 🤷‍♂️

@CogornoGolf 5 жыл бұрын

Upper body away from the ground during the downswing is a bad, bad, bad idea for most all people. Of course I would have to see your swing to say for sure what you should or shouldn't be doing. As you saw in the video...do the players get lower or higher? Thats what I base my answer on.

@zzxxyy22 5 жыл бұрын

great video!

@CogornoGolf 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Roger!

@fauxtomski 5 жыл бұрын

Hey Eric, Really like your channel. Have you thought about instruction with uphill, downhill and side hill lies?

@CogornoGolf 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Thomas! Yes we have...on the list!

@JMChick47 5 жыл бұрын

Wow, lot to learn from that video. Eric, have you discussed the straight left arm and I've just missed it?

@CogornoGolf 5 жыл бұрын

Yessir! I don't think so...not in this vid!

@jimspatz9211 5 жыл бұрын

My favorite part of your instruction is that you don't oversell the distance/power thing LIKE THE REST OF THE INDUSTRY. I am very tall and long, yet since the first time I played (1972), there have been many older and shorter men and women who crushed me because they were superior ball strikers and hit the ball STRAIGHTER. Thanks Eric.

@CogornoGolf 5 жыл бұрын

MY pleasure, Jim! Thanks for being here!

@gunnarjinx 5 жыл бұрын

Nearly TOO brilliant .... 2 things i noticed in all this ...#1- the top of their back bents a lot at impact or just before AND at impact AND doing so their head and top of their body has moved slightly more over the ball then at setup. #2- In doing so the club gets more in extension of the leading arm position... = the degree of arms & shaft at setup has straighten up. Hope is all good mentioning this ... feel it's important so people wont keep that degree and totally miss/shank the ball ;) Love ALL ur content ... you and Ryan = KINGS .... Cheers... Iceland :)

@CogornoGolf 5 жыл бұрын

Love it, Gunnar! You are spot on!

@rlee33498 Жыл бұрын

Maybe the greatest golf video i have ever seen. wow thanks eric for this crucial info. also i live in delray beach FL anyone you can recommend for a lesson in my area? love to hear from you thanks again man. AMAZING !

@CogornoGolf Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Don Law Golf Academy at Osprey point is great!

@rlee33498 Жыл бұрын

@@CogornoGolf I love osprey point thanks I will contact them for teaching info thanks again Eric for your awesome videos

@yigu7159 5 жыл бұрын

A question: at the address, if the hands/handle are closer to the body and more aligned with the vertical line under the chin, would it help to get to the impact position desired afterwards? I found whenever I stick my hands too much out at address, the less chance I got a good impact.

@CogornoGolf 5 жыл бұрын

I don't think there is a 1-1 correlation between those two things. I see where the arms hang at address have more of a direct effect on the hand path during the backswing, but no guarantees there as to what leads to impact position. Too many variables. But if you do that and it helps then I would investigate it via video and find out why and keep doing it :)

@pickleball_tomorrow 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome

@CogornoGolf 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@youdidist 5 жыл бұрын

👍 nice... will try that 🤭

@CogornoGolf 5 жыл бұрын

Hope it helps!

@frankcanzanella6753 3 жыл бұрын

Eric I realize that if I close the club face at address then to square the club face at impact my right elbow needs to be bent and against my right side. The brain a supercomputer will need to make the adjustment to in order square the club face.

@CogornoGolf 3 жыл бұрын

Yep! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eKykiNGF3tqzm30.html

@brianstumpf7296 5 жыл бұрын

Great stuff as always Eric. I know this is staring with short iron, but in general this will be the same (amounts of bend etc) through the bag?

@brianstumpf7296 5 жыл бұрын

Oh, and is there root cause you see for stalling?

@CogornoGolf 5 жыл бұрын

Yes...relative to setup. Setup changes with different clubs (you are less bent over as clubs get longer)

@CogornoGolf 5 жыл бұрын

Absolutely....lots Face too open, downswing too steep, arms too far behind, pressure in feet off, bends/tilts off.... Lots

@brianstumpf7296 5 жыл бұрын

Eric Cogorno Golf thank you! 🐐

@absolutraj 4 жыл бұрын

Looking at the pros setup to impact photos, I'm noticing that their head does dip a little but the top of the spine stays about in the same position. So is the right arm bend because they are closer to the ball or simply because their right shoulder has rotated down and there is less room?

@CogornoGolf 4 жыл бұрын

It is from the right side bend mainly kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eaujq7Sq3bOxj6s.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bdaSnqimqZaymXk.html

@davehill5539 5 жыл бұрын

Being rt arm and wrist dominant, it’s taken me a while to slow their release. Fast or early release caused chunk then body wants to stay up. Thanks.

@dondasher58 5 жыл бұрын

Dave Hill same here. Real good rotation has helped me a lot. I mean I fought it for years!

@CogornoGolf 5 жыл бұрын

Exactly! Takes time and work.

@charlesrolph5356 4 жыл бұрын

It seems to me then that you could get into the proper impact position most simply by concentrating on where your right elbow should be at impact. Certainly would reduce the number of swing thoughts...

@CogornoGolf 4 жыл бұрын

For sure...lots of ways to reverse engineer those positions. Often times ONE of those things makes the others happen

@adanybarra2678 5 жыл бұрын

10!!!!!!

@CogornoGolf 5 жыл бұрын

@tonycanniffe2360 5 жыл бұрын

Grant Waite! 😍

@CogornoGolf 5 жыл бұрын

Hes so solid!

@thankywe1413 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks,you're right. But very very difficult to copy all these moves. I tried it for almost two yrs. Yet not successful.

@CogornoGolf 3 жыл бұрын

Hope you get it sorted my friend! Good to learn what impact feels like and work from there!

@aaronmccardie8795 5 жыл бұрын

If l dipped or dropped that much into the ball my divot would feel like 3feet deep.ive had early extension for years and cant get rid of it .

@CogornoGolf 5 жыл бұрын

So how would you go down and not take a huge divot? Thats your answer. If you think going down isn't going to work, you will never fix your early extension my friend :) It starts there

@aaronmccardie8795 5 жыл бұрын

Years ago I snapped a friends driver shaft what I did to do that I don't know. So now I have I have a habit of coming out of the shot .

@AlanLJones 5 жыл бұрын

Eric, which one? Liveview Pro or Flightcope Mevo? Compare them. Thank you

@CogornoGolf 5 жыл бұрын

Liveview....camera more important than numbers if youre working on swing mechanics

@lagilogalo 2 жыл бұрын

How about wood ?

@CogornoGolf 2 жыл бұрын

Here are some good driver vs iron differences to use: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/irCkq5Ciu7nLhok.html

@zzxxyy22 5 жыл бұрын

live view cost?

@CogornoGolf 5 жыл бұрын

www.liveviewgolf.com/special/

@905kadin5 2 жыл бұрын

Attempts to drive to Florida without any direction.... ends up in Texas instead🤣🤷🏼‍♂️

@CogornoGolf 2 жыл бұрын

@godsdozer 4 жыл бұрын

If people only watched one video for their golf swing this should be it. Forget most everything else and arrive somewhere close to this position at impact and you can play decent golf.

@CogornoGolf 4 жыл бұрын

@robertorovida2108 4 жыл бұрын

As a golf aficionado and as a medical doctor, I have a couple of remarks here to say: 1) the more the impact position differs from the setup position, the more that swing requires hours and hours of training and practice in order to become consistent (reproducibility of the movements and low chance of mistakes): which is not something that most amateurs can afford... 2) the more the impact position differs from the setup position, and the swing has the shape shown in the videos (especially remarkable, among the others, are the 'body contorsions' of Dustin Johnson and Fleetwood), the more there's a risk of causing lesions in the long run (in the spine, hips, shoulders, knees): which is something else all golfers (but amateurs in particular) should abstain from. In conclusion I'm here to ask pros: are you sure that a professional swing can and should be taught to amateurs, especially to amateurs who are 45y or older? Or a more 'simplified' swing should be a better option...?

@CogornoGolf 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback Roberto! I'm always looking to learn! Can you please show me some evidence of good players who DO NOT have a different impact than setup who are any good? I have been looking at swings for about 15 years and I have never seen that.

@robertorovida2108 4 жыл бұрын

Eric Cogorno Golf Dear Eric, thank you for your prompt answer (which shows commendable commitment) and the chance that you give me for further discussion of the topic (which shows your open mind). We all know, as a matter of fact, that the 'natural' golf swing implies that the impact position has to be different from the setup position, at least if you want to shoot the ball with acceptable distance. So, in a natural golf swing, the uncoiling movement of the body, during the downswing, also needs to include some lags between the body sections in order to increase the rotational speed and allow a good distance. This high-speed unwinding, with lags, leads the golfer to execute the downswing on a different plane than the backswing and assume (when seen frontally) sort of an 'inverted K' shape at impact, as it is well shown in the picture on page 103 of Ben Hogan's Five Lessons. So it is true that the natural golf shot is like the above, but the points to be considered are: - although it is an old technique (because the golf natural swing has always had some lag and some inverted K posture at impact), in recent years that technique has been taken to the extreme (more lag, more hip and spine 'contorsions', also leading to more injuries) by the professional golfers, in search for longer and longer shots; - this technique can enhance the length of a shot, but it has nothing to do with its good direction; on the contrary it often creates directional problems to an amateur, because the marked difference in the plane and arc of the downswing, with respect to the backswing, is more difficult to learn and master (more variables are in play) and mistakes become more likely. Nowadays all the professional golfers are chasing the extremes of this technique, because all players want to keep up with the highest reachable level. In the past there were even high-level players who used less extreme techniques but still were winners of US opens or PGA tour. I have in mind Julius Boros for example: you can watch an analysis of his swing on KZfaq kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Y96gmdJyl6rVXZc.html. There is still a difference between the impact and the setup position (or it would not be Golf...), but without the extremes that are seen in today's professionals. In Boros's swing you can also appreciate a footwork and heelwork that accompany the body torsion, allowing for more rotational speed but less strain on muscles and joints. Isn't that an amateur golfer would not desire to have the same ability of a Julius Boros? And use a swing in which the arc and plane of backswing and downswing are a bit closer, with fewer variables in play, for higher-percentage shots? Sincerely I dare say that an amateur golfer, especially if not young, should be contented with a more simplified swing.

@CogornoGolf 4 жыл бұрын

I will look more into it! Thanks for the info!