Also a boomer here, I converted from Lutheranism in the 70s and could see the great difference between the NO mass and the Tridentine Mass. I did not convert to remain Lutheran, but now, according to the pope, I don't even need to convert!

Count me in on that, I love the Latin Mass, I also love the mass in English, I have been attending RC church since birth I’m now 79 years old, during the changes it never occurred to me, that one day in my lifetime, our Vatican would be charged with the horror crimes they have, nor that the Holy Mass and our religious life would be in danger of extinction. I will die a RC honouring and loving my God and my faith. In the midst of Frightening times ahead for the Roman Catholic Church. I truly believe our Pope, Frances, has lost his way and has forfeited the right to be the holder of the Keys , I pray for him.

Which one?

❤Never stopped loving the Mass in Latin❤

Pure nostalgia in my case, (but l am lucky to have that nostalgia, we're all thinning ou now) I remember the natural oneness of the congregation. The calmness, the timelessness. That was as a child surrounded by a walls of soothingly soberly dressed adults, but also seeing the large families with many children, often standing in age order was visually pleasing somehow. And now as an adult after attending the Latin Mass, l feel like a guest, the intense focus of The Priest(s) the purposeful movements and gestures, the liquid beauty of the language. It's unique isn't it, almost impossible to describe.

The purification rite often overlooked in new mass. I remember in the 70’s watching the priests do it carefully. They were ordained with the old mass.

I remember clearly the particles of the Blessed Sacrament on the paten during communion. It was understood that ever particle retained the totality of the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Jesus…the priest would carefully brush all into the chalice and add a bit of the blessed water and consume all Of it, then wipe with the cloth which would be put on chalice and so on. This was in the 70s at Novus Ordo. There were priests who were very reverent around this. Communion on the hand coarsened this and now who knows how many particles of the Blessed Sacrament fall to the floor and are trampled upon or wiped off on skirts or pants. It is quite saddening

​@@grasshoffers What I witnessed was not during purification , he placed the Host on a Communicants tongue, then noticed the particles , stopped before going to the next Communicant and carefully moved the particles into the Chalice The 70's destroyed everything, then they wonder why there is such a low number of weak lukewarm Catholics believe in the true presence.

​@@andy41417if you remember that from the 70's you were lucky to be in that Parish. Between the folks Mass and felt banners, standing for Communion in the hand it was sickening

WHen I receive Christ in Communion by hand I take a second and receive Him before I leave the presence of the Priest no doubt where the Consecrated Host is for Father or anyone else. This is how I was taught. I am unable to attend Mass because of disabilities but will try harder to make the extra effort the total peace and encouragement are like balm to the soul

Novus ordo mass is basically a Lutheran service.

Actually the 1928 Prayer Book used by some Episcopal Churches for their services is much more beautiful than the NO. I converted decades ago and attended an Episcopal high church for one year before being received into the RCC. We had a choir I sang in, wore robes and hats, and sang Catholic and Orthodox music. When I attended my first masses, the music was dreadful, the mass was so disappointing, and when I moved to my current town, the first parish I attended had heretics teaching classes,it was horrible.

Thank you so much Dear Brother Anthony & family! ❤️❤️

@@CatholicCat-er9xn God bless you my Friend!

@@miryambarnabas2424 Morning, dear MirY'am! May you be blessed today and every day! 🥰🙂🙃🙂

I never had a problem with the Latin, I am a convert. Just buy an English/Latin missal. The translation is there. Besides, after a while you learn the Latin. Having studied a romance language (French), it's easy to see the connections with Latin.

Our lady warned that the bishops will lead the flock astray.

Did you leave the seminary?

& find a new one that was truly "catholic".

That professor clearly does not know what it means to be Catholic. Without the Eucharist you only have symbology, a feel good type of Christ. Why give up the true Body and Blood for a piece of bread? WHY???

When I took a friend to a Latin Mass some years ago, he said, realizing what had been stolen from him, "I was seething inside."

He probably did already. Did you check the Return to Tradition website ?

@@margaretklos8937 not yet. Thanks

No, the words are right there in the documents. Let me dig through my computer and find the references. Catholics should pray with Protestants (Unitatis Redintegratio, §§4,8). Eucharistic hospitality (cf. question 8). The Church of Christ subsists in (not is) the Catholic Church (Lumen Gentium, §8), It is also in “separated Churches” (Ut Unum Sint, §11).[3] which has separated brethren in separated “Churches” (Unitatis Redintegratio, §3), All the baptized are in Christ’s Church (Ut Unum Sint, §42). which ought to be as sisters (Unitatis Redintegratio, §14). And so there is no need to convert, e.g., the Orthodox.[4] Seminarians should take into account modern philosophy, progress in science (Optatam Totius, §15), Secular university studies and abandoning Thomism. psychology, and sociology (§20). Open spirituality and subjective morality. Marriage and married love equated (Gaudium et Spes, §§48,50). Annulments fiasco (cf. question 8). The Church renounces privileges civil authorities grant her (§76). Catholic religion no longer to be the religion of any States. Wish for a world authority (§82). Full support for UN Rite and formula of penance are to be revised (Sacrosanctum Concilium §72). Face to face confessions and General Absolutions.[5] Extreme Unction should be an Anointing of the Sick (§§73,75). New matter, form and subject (i.e., the sick, not just those in danger of death).

​@@janetbaker1945V2 dismantled the Church to make her Protestant. I have never accepted it.

@@carolynkimberly4021 True, it is protestant, I know I used to be protestant. No one is obliged to accept error. There is no amount of "dialog" that is going to make me believe that a naked, ugly, fertility goddess statue is supposed to be the Most Pure, Modest, Beautiful, Virgin Mary, Mother of God. Sorry, I'm not stupid! I would rather attend a Tridentine Latin Mass than a clown mass any day! If Our Lord asks me at my judgement why I did not support the NO mass near me I will say, but Lord, it was a chicken dance mass! They were praising the UN and offering mass to climate change!

@@slickmechanical We were told to say Amen before receiving Communion. WHY? Because we confect the Eucharist, not the priest only.

@@carolynkimberly4021 thats actually heretical. Read the council of trent session XIII. That is condemned. We say amen before receiving the Eucharist as an affirmation that we believe it is already confectefd into the Eucharist by the priest alone.

@@slickmechanical I agree that the Amen is heretical. At the true Mass the priest says over us, "May the Body of our Lord Jesus Christ keep your soul into life everlasting". No "Amen" necessary.

@@carolynkimberly4021 the amen is not heretical. The idea that the eucharist is confected by one's faith is heretical. It is effected by the words of the priest acting in persona Christi.

@@slickmechanical Of course that's true. So why do we need to say anything? This is the icing on the cake of the Bugnini/Paul Vl Protestantized ecumenical Mass.

Yes, and bring people to salvation through Christ, not to water down the faith so it is pleasing to the UN and World Economic Forum, Lord save us!

Why did you have Prots in the choir? Your parish wasn't Catholic

why on earth were Protestants even allowed to be there, much less have an opinion! If I went to a Protestant mega church and demanded they get rid of their rock gospel, they would laugh in my face! What is wrong with Catholics today, NO SPINE! Speak up, defend your faith!

Boy, that speaks volumes, doesn't it.

His treatment of us Latin Mass goers tells you he was in on drafting Traditional Custard.

😢

He did....speed walking through the streets with no canopy and no reverence, people were running to keep up. It made the news! 😢

Sad.

Ours has adoration every Thursday all day and every first Saturday, so your parish is not the norm.

Sometimes it's because the priests have to spread themselves thinly because of administrating the sacraments, sick calls, travelling between chapels etc, so they're not able to have Adoration and Benediction as often as they and we would like. Also it's hard for the little one's to be quiet for so long.

My Trad parish has adoration every Thursday and all day and night on First Fridays.

@@maryelisabeth7167 As for crying babies, we have a cry room, but our priests travel from as far away as Kansas City, Colorado, to come to Texas to say mass.

By what authority could the Archbishop declare the See vacant?

Pope Paul 6 stated that Vatican Council 2 was a PASTORAL council. No Dogmas were made or issue d by this Council.

Abp Marcel Lefebvre made no statement that the Papal chair was vacant.

@@johnmorgan4313 He never made a public statement. He not infrequently shared his concern that it was. Abp Lefebvre was already an older man in retirement when he began the SSPX, and zigged and zagged to try to preserve it and tradition. He would certainly have done so if he’d seen the obscenity of the worship of idols and the absurdity of people saying “no, it wasn’t an idol, he was fooled, etc.”

A canonical authoritative determination is in the future, but it will never come if the church of James Martin blessings , and if you think this is the real Church & Francis is a real pope, then you will remain enslaved to the lies and God will never deliver you.

Think what way?

@@sunfirejewels7530 that young people are flocking to Latin mass. It was a lie in the 90s and it still is today.

That's quite an assumption on your part. If you really want to know come & visit & ask them yourself.

@@sheila7809 I grew up with the Latin mass. I heard all this in the 90s and almost everyone I went to sspx school with lost the faith.

@@sheila7809 part 2. Everything they say today they said back then. Just like with Francis today, they were lying about St. Pope John Paul 2.