Good From Afar, But Far From Good? Alpina Seastrong Heritage
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Thank you once more Ashley! And sorry once more Ashley! Honestly, I would have this one in my collection were it not for that bloody date frame and the weird crown positioning. So close to perfect, but they shot themselves in both feet. Cheers, Jody
@debussychopin2766 2 жыл бұрын
I actually like the offcenteredness it adds a bit of character rather than something that is standard looking. It looks cleanly well done is all that matters to me honestly.
@swc3854 Жыл бұрын
Exactly! it's because Alpina is a true Swiss brand not Ali Xpress.
@NeoGee 4 жыл бұрын
The date window and crown positionings add some interest to the watch's look, especially how the date window and the lower crown align, so no moans and niggles from be on the looks.
@rexkaiser7013 3 жыл бұрын
You prolly dont care but if you guys are stoned like me atm then you can stream pretty much all of the new movies on InstaFlixxer. Have been watching with my girlfriend lately :)
@daytondario6216 3 жыл бұрын
@Rex Kaiser Yup, I've been using InstaFlixxer for years myself :)
@evolvedape9171 2 жыл бұрын
I do love the date location so much that I bought two. Beauty can be subjective Mr Jody.
@JustOneMoreWatch 2 жыл бұрын
Sure can! I think it is awful! Ha!
@Robert-vw3od 2 жыл бұрын
it’s absolutely beautiful and its quirks are there to be lived with . Worth a grand of my money.
@richardabazley 4 жыл бұрын
I have to say, those small details didn't really bother me. I'd put it down to character....😐
@pineapplesideways3820 Жыл бұрын
I have a seastrong and edges are sharp the heritage is better design
@attorney1972 4 жыл бұрын
Alpina are great watches and underrated.
@truno7 3 жыл бұрын
In a wierd way, this watch being so f*cked up makes me want it even more.
@michaelclark3860 4 жыл бұрын
1:26 shocked me so much I spat out my cereal hahaha! Great vid again Jody.
@PeteMcConvill 4 жыл бұрын
Yep - its you.... I've gone past tolerating to actively enjoying the asymmetry. To avoid the obvious and play with conventions. Its the beauty spot, the fleck of colour in an eye that takes a girl next door, royal pretty soapy star and makes her a stunner.
@iamsheep 4 жыл бұрын
But the asymmetry looks like an accident. Why would it be not aligned between indicies? Looks like a QC issue rather than some unique use of negative space. Look to the Nomos Metro Datum Gangreserve for asymmetry done right
@PeteMcConvill 4 жыл бұрын
@@iamsheep the nomos isnt bad, bit dull - but thats the nomos brief, homeopathic design. Here's the point if you arent going ot be aligned, dont be aligned - at all.
@clivejagger9712 4 жыл бұрын
@@PeteMcConvill I'm with you on this one. I've learned the hard way - buying all the "fantastic specs" watches - and then promptly selling them!! In my experience, if you buy these things with your heart, you end up keeping the more interesting pieces. Tbh, I wasn't sure when I bought this one which way it would go, but I keep wearing it and smiling. So, it's another winner for me
@jrsolis68 3 жыл бұрын
@@iamsheep But you KNOW it's not a QC issue. 😏
@fattmatt200 4 жыл бұрын
I don't see them as design flaws they were conscious decisions to match a square correctly in a circle and the lower crown to keep inline with the date window.. Your friend keeping it for two years must mean they are doing something right. Nice review.
@swc3854 Жыл бұрын
Well said. He wasn't paid for this video obviously.
@jpdemer5 Жыл бұрын
Just got one new (open box) for half price - 300m water resistance, well-finished Swiss automatic, sapphire, and as you say, it goes from the office to the pool with perfect aplomb. Even the strap manages to be dressy-looking while being water-ready. What's not to like? 😊 My lust for a Legend Diver has been tamped down, at least for now. The date window doesn't bug me at all - I think they're easier to read when rotated down from the 3 position. It's an oddity that I find more charming than anything else. (Plus there's something to be said for the exotic factor: I know it's going to be the only one in the room.) Very happy to have this one - it's going to get a _lot_ of wrist time.
@paulblakey4589 4 жыл бұрын
Great super quick to the point video. Your date window shape & position on dial and crown positions points are very valid and a real spoiler.
@ROrneli Жыл бұрын
I dont mind the asymmetric design .I have 2 alpinas and have had 3 . Alpinas hit way above their weight class and this one is no exception. I also like that most Alpinas are not just shooting homages of Rolexes or Omegas but are a bit different like their regulators . Big fan of the brand.
@CyberBeep_kenshi Жыл бұрын
Just ordered a starttimer with big date through an auction. Can't wait :-))) It's weird, sometimes a watch just speaks to you, and kept looking at it :)
@ROrneli Жыл бұрын
@@CyberBeep_kenshi congratulations , you wont regret it. Since I posted this I got an alpina avalanche extreme at at total steal and I lvoe it, so now I have 4 watches and 2 are alpinas, one Hamilton khaki field and a g-shock gwg-2k
@CyberBeep_kenshi Жыл бұрын
@@ROrneli cheers!
@Dave062YT 4 жыл бұрын
I think lockdown has sent you stir crazy .It's a beauty and great value .Much more attractive and better spec'd than an Oris 65 tho I agree the hand set doesn't make it the most legible option out there.
@swc3854 Жыл бұрын
If it said San Martin on the dial, he will highly reccomend lol
@bripost 4 жыл бұрын
I have a different model (Alpina Seastrong Diver GMT w/ a red bezel) and I love it! It also has none of the cons mentioned here and was worth every penny!
@AdrianPaps 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for listening to the input 😊
@diabolov84 4 жыл бұрын
Still love It. The crowns symmetry is a little odd, but the date position and date window shape makes sense to me. If you trace lines from the center of the dial to the sides of the "4 o'clock" crown you'll get a nice piece of pie encompassing de date window.
@Chris-sv8bb 4 жыл бұрын
Pros: it looks like a white dial Vostok Amphibia Cons: it’s not a white dial Vostok Amphibia
@Mr_Memer.876 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly my thoughts 👍🏼
@andreaiacolina 4 жыл бұрын
And it doesn't cost like a Vostok!
@taham33 4 жыл бұрын
Mandatory Amphibia post, beat me to it
@claytonberg721 4 жыл бұрын
black dial looks better.
@chrisb6003 4 жыл бұрын
The Vostok looks, well typically Russian. It's certainly no looker.
@owenoshaughnessy6056 4 жыл бұрын
Have this exact model and I absolutely love it! Get the check ns but they really don't bother me.as.it just feels so good on the wrist and it looks great either dressed up or casual. For me it's superior to the legend Diver due to better lugs and less busy dial.
@scottlauren3145 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the awesome video!!
@Jayteeef 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review!! I have this watch and it's a great watch. I didn't actually notice the crown positions until you pointed it out, but it's not really a big deal when on the wrist and not really noticeable either, at least for myself. Take care and stay safe!
@smitty03281964 12 күн бұрын
I have it in the bronze. It's really gorgeous piece. So gorgeous those minor gripes that you're talking about are overlooked.
@DiegoLopez-by7wl 2 жыл бұрын
I see your point, but I think the date is fine there because it is aligned with the second crown. My TOC with the symmetry is satisfied
@sergioespinozaREMAX 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful watch !!
@Pew7070 4 жыл бұрын
I’m with you on this one Jody.
@bunberrier 4 жыл бұрын
I dont mind the assymetry of the crowns. If its on the left wrist, the staggering sets them less in position to poke your hand. The hands dont sufficiently contrast with the dial and are out of proportion with it as you said. Other than that its very beautiful. I really, REALLY like the band too. Perfect size and framing for the watch itself.
@TheDocrwm 4 жыл бұрын
Another great review - thanks! I've had white/creme dials with light colored hands in the past, several times because they are attractive. However, they all get flipped because they are just not readable at a glance.
@dimitrisservis365 2 жыл бұрын
Asymmetry is amazing
@fr0d0scious 4 жыл бұрын
Totally disagree this watch is class. The crown's and date window position are aesthetically pleasing to me. Only the 21mm would be a pita. Your OCD is your own problem Jodi. Get some counseling 😂👍
@claytonberg721 4 жыл бұрын
I've had a number of 19mm lugs, just buy 20mm straps and persuade them into place. Were I to buy this one it I'd get 22mm and do the same.
@johnbuccheri3440 3 жыл бұрын
My grandfather used to tell me, "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing". Perfectly suits some. You've got the lift angle set wrong on the timegrapher for that movement.
@nickcosta1093 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jodi Great review . Somthing did look alittle off.
@paulhart2021 4 жыл бұрын
I own a alpina startimer; that one, I bought for its basic good looks.....the startimers automatic or quartz..... You can find really good deals on.
@JR-gp2zk 4 жыл бұрын
It is just odd. Why is there a giant arrow for the minute hand, instead of the hour. Also, the date window. Everything is just off. For $1000, I would say no way. However when it doesn't sell for MSRP, and a year from now it is selling for under $500 on Amazon...maybe.
@unknownriderinbound 4 жыл бұрын
Selective OCD cracks me up! Must drive y'all bonkers to check the time when it's not exactly 12 or 6.
@gregwallace9035 4 жыл бұрын
Great review! Agree with you about the out of wack looks.
@russelledmonds2254 4 жыл бұрын
Love the title!! I’ll use that for one of my shows!!!;)
@captbumbler5356 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Jody, great video. yes lovely looking watch with problems.
@Chicagomostly 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review- I love this watch and plan on picking one up soon. I like the date location, but I do tend to like watch features that are a little different than the norm.
@Jayteeef 4 жыл бұрын
I just got this watch and I think Jody is nitpicking a little bit. It's an awesome watch and looks great on the wrist. You'll love it!!
@matthewdaniels6643 4 жыл бұрын
You'll enjoy it. It's very versatile. Goes will with just about any outfit.
@MattSeesGray Жыл бұрын
I just bought one of these and I’m happy to see people complimenting this timepiece here. I buy watches for myself, and I loved the bronze pvd coating, but it makes me sad when other people don’t appreciate a timepiece like I do. Certain watches aren’t for everyone, but this is one for me!
@bt3750 4 жыл бұрын
I noticed the date frame right away. I didn't notice the crown spacing until you mentioned it. Then I couldn't unsee it.
@richardvacanti9103 4 жыл бұрын
Just got my phoibos 007B it’s a beautiful blue dial. I’m trying to up the quality of watch going into my collection.Trying to stay away from watchers in the $80-$100 category. They have their place but I have a ton of them. Maybe a couple of parnis because they are the exception to the rule very high-quality for what you pay.Thanks for all the high-quality videos you put out I know it’s hard work and takes time and I appreciate that please keep up the awesome work thank you and stay safe and have a wonderful day God bless you.
@RogerSartet007 4 жыл бұрын
Talking about Oris: Here in Europe the Alpina Seastrong Heritage's price point is about that of an Oris Chronoris. Although the latter has only 100m of water tightness, I'd prefer the Chronoris for the reasons you just mentioned. Jody, have you ever reviewed the Oris Chronoris?
@JustOneMoreWatch 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Gert, no I haven't. Was offered a NOS one last year, but it wasn't quite cheap enough.... Maybe next time?!
@speeeding 4 жыл бұрын
Another great review. I actually own this watch. I too was concerned about those moans and niggles before I bought the watch, but they don't bother me at all, to be truthful. I think the date location was their attempt to visually tie it to the lower crown. The trapezoidal shape of the window was probably described by lines from the center to the crown ends. The asymmetrical location of the crowns...I honestly didn't notice this until you mentioned it! My 2 moans and niggles are 1. The crown is difficult to operate, and 2. the marks on the rotating bezel don't really line up to the dial. Otherwise, it's a beautiful watch. Especially in daylight.
@roymusil296 4 жыл бұрын
Jody, I love your channel and I really respect your opinion on all things watch and tee shirt related. But I although I hate to beg, I must beg to differ with this particular review. I was debating between the Longines and Alpina when looking for a compressor style diver. Once I saw them in person there was no comparison and I ultimately chose the Alpina. I continue to be chuffed to bits with my purchase and I think the trapezoidal date window gives this watch it’s own unique character. Keep up the good work, maintain your high standards of social distancing and stay safe!
@terryfenner8142 4 жыл бұрын
Do my nut in ...😂😂😂 haven’t heard that phrase in a while .. I heard someone tell someone to ‘go swivel’ the other day 😂😂😂again, a classic.. great video Jodey ..stay safe
@dynamotightstar3472 4 жыл бұрын
Go swivel is soooo old school! 😆😆😆
@raymondmariano2127 4 жыл бұрын
I saw the watch in person, and yes once you see the date and crown placement, you cannot un-see it.
@craigroberts5965 4 жыл бұрын
Great review 👍 Seems to something of a theme with Alpina. I've considered several of their watches because they're well priced good looking pieces, but they often miss the mark a little and I don't pull the trigger.
@chancevonfreund9145 Жыл бұрын
It is a beautiful watch! I have the seastrong 300 AL525X4TVS4/6 with the sellita sw200-1. I little bigger and some say plain. But I will tell you the engine is awesome. I love it.⌚
@kesfitzgerald1084 4 жыл бұрын
Jody, I wasn't going to say anything but since you raised it... yes you have displayed elements of OCD but that certainly doesn't mean you go that one wrong. Excellent review.
@Bambi851 4 жыл бұрын
I thought this was gorgeous until you mentioned the crowns, now I can't unsee it. BTW I have an original 60's one which is stunning.
@malikknows3510 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video as per usual, Sir. Not sure they stylistic moans are a big deal, imho. Overall, 300m and quality build for $1000? seems a great deal, esp. when compared to the Oris and Longines you mentioned.
@TheTownWatch 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review! It’s funny, my review of the chocolate dial, bronze case version of this watch is publishing later today. I mention some of the very same things you say in your review! 😊 I believe this Alpina could be the Longines Legend Dover Killer. I believe the Longines has roughly the same uneven crown positions for some reason. I think a lot of compressor style watches do, I don’t get it but seems that is the situation. Thanks again!
@michaelsprance2973 4 жыл бұрын
I loved it at first too thinking it would be a great affordable timepiece in place of the Longines. But those crowns and date window would drive my ocd nuts as well.
@andrewd7586 4 жыл бұрын
Yep could easily add this to the collection but $1,000US? Good looking watch though! I love the cream/white dial 👍🏻 It’s in proportion to its disproportion! 🤪 I suffer a tad OCDC but it doesn’t really phase me on this watch! Maybe coz it’s not mine...🤔 💭
@JustOneMoreWatch 4 жыл бұрын
So close, but I'll stick with the Oris for now.... Cheers!
@andrewd7586 4 жыл бұрын
Just One More Watch I’d agree Jody!😎 I just bought a Seiko Presage 1964 special edition with white dial!😍 No dive watch but WOW!!!!!😱
@richardvacanti9103 4 жыл бұрын
Just got my one more Phoibus 007. Blue dial and bezel.loving it .Got a brand new on eBay for 250
@ThemysteriousMrP 4 жыл бұрын
It’s a beautiful watch. It’s unusual in terms of design. So if those two elements ring your bell then I say it’s a good deal!
@SkysaxonDragonslayer 4 жыл бұрын
Love the date how it is not cutting the 3 - the crown are a bit questionable, but not a dealbreaker for me... 21mm lug width can be a pain, but there is plenty of stuff around - look at Watch Gecko or Cheapest NATO Straps... - found enough for my even stranger 19mm Longines Conquest...
@Urtossen 4 жыл бұрын
The crowns sits in the same way on the Longines Legend Diver.
@flipdog69xxx 4 жыл бұрын
For this style of "dress diver" I prefer my Longines Legend Diver. I have the black PVD version and it's one of my daily divers.
@rolandnyul 2 жыл бұрын
Now, at the end of 2021, there is a new version. The specs are the same, the crowns are also at the same position but the date is gone. It comes with a steel case, black dial and golden indices. It looks really gorgeous....
@hans.lankamp 4 жыл бұрын
Get a Nodus Duality if you want the correct version of this design
@thomasmoll8822 4 жыл бұрын
Hans Lankamp - This is the “correct” version as it uses their own vintage watch as a model...
@chrisb6003 4 жыл бұрын
The Nodus is nowhere near as good looking.
@hans.lankamp 4 жыл бұрын
@@thomasmoll8822 Yeah, i see that "correct" probably wasn't the right term to use. I think that Nodus fixed most of the complaints Jody had about this Alpina with their Duality which has a very similar design
@hans.lankamp 4 жыл бұрын
@@chrisb6003 I think the Nodus looks a lot better, but I guess that's more a matter of taste
@Andrew-J316 4 жыл бұрын
I actually like the date position there as it doesn't cut into the indices. to each his on I guess. I think I enjoy my white dialed Vostok much more with 20mm lug width even!
@gamesetmatt23 4 жыл бұрын
I actually really enjoy the odd positioning of the crowns and date window. I think it looks really interesting. I have more of a problem with the handset. That's one ugly minute hand! Different strokes for different folks, I guess. I'll see YOU in the next video!
@storm3016 4 жыл бұрын
I was wondering when you were going to mention that horrible date window when I was about halfway in to the video. You've said it all, they really dropped the ball there. I mind the offset crowns much less, although that might change when I see it on my wrist...which will never happen now. Cheer mate.
@elmoelms2743 4 жыл бұрын
Obviously the date window is there Jody because it’s in line with the crown but I get your point totally. I love the brand but as you pointed out some very silly mistakes. Excellent review
@stusims6567 4 жыл бұрын
I agree as to the looks, but the ergonomics of the position of the crowns might explain their positioning. The date window is just awkward! Great review as always Jody!!
@edwardgreenaway1808 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know the asymmetry is a bit like a beauty mark. It makes it all come together . The hour hand is a bit too small, I agree. Further more it is lacking in the lume department. I don't know about $1,000 but I like it.
@diegorengifo6767 4 жыл бұрын
Good day Jody! Enjoy your videos and REALLY up'd my collection due to your vids. THANKS! REQUEST: Is there any way you can do a review of the DeepBlue Diver 1000 in the 42mm case?
@MrPleers 4 жыл бұрын
I understand the datewindow feeling. I have something similar with my Hamilton Khaki Pioneer. It has a black dial with crème coloured hands and numbers. But a white datewindow. I though I would get used to that over time. But stopped wearing it for many years now.
@markplayford5836 4 жыл бұрын
Deffo OCD but I see what you mean! The date lept out at me from the get go but the crowns needed pointing out by you. Not a mega fan of inner rotating bezels either and it’s pricey too. How come some micros can nail it yet bigger brands struggle? Newsflash - you have been doing it longer, you should be getting it spot on now. 🤓
@ForeverUnknowing 4 жыл бұрын
Dang, I didn't even notice the lack of symmetry of the crown positioning until you pointed it out, Jody. Also that day window is a bit odd with the shape and positioning. Very weird, but a great video!
@Peanutcat 4 жыл бұрын
I kinda like the way they put the date marker.
@JDRevene 4 жыл бұрын
I like the crowns, I’m in two minds about the date window but the non-standard band width is a deal breaker.
@tantk6187 4 жыл бұрын
Nice looking watch, something different from the submariner homages. Could have come with s display caseback though
@cowboyswami2017 4 жыл бұрын
I definitely see wht ur saying but they do really make solid watches for the money with their other collection IMO
@ThePurple1968 3 жыл бұрын
overcritical for things most people wont notice. BUT I do appreciate your detail and views, and love your reviews. One thing you didnt notice is that the second crown lines up perfectly with the date window, which rests above the 4 pip. And the top crown rests below the 2 pip. Its taste, take it or leave it, but its done to a plan and i love it!
@XforeverthemanX 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t love it, but I think if I owned one it has enough character that I would love it. I’ve tried one on before at a store and loved it, but that price was too high. I’ve seen them hit around $400 online and thought about it. The crowns are different date window is odd but it’s a nice change from everything else.
@soap.333 4 жыл бұрын
Quality video! I love your work Jody!! I would love to see a review of the Hamilton Khaki Pilot Pioneer reissue! I would love to see your thoughts on such a nice watch, Mine is in the mail and I can’t wait til it’s here! Hope you read this! Cheers mate! From a lockdowned NYC
@KongBobbyK 4 жыл бұрын
Mine Ventus NorthStar is great to 199$. Thanks Jody.
@jee6351 4 жыл бұрын
I like it and the trapezoid. But I also like quartz.
@anthonysmithyman372 4 жыл бұрын
Woooahhh!! I saw the date problem straight away!!! And why no lumed indices? Daft as a brush.
@craiga2002 3 жыл бұрын
My Alpina Startimer (quartz) is currently my favorite watch, and it takes about 3 minutes to find several 21mm watch straps, so this review...
@FitOutPost 4 жыл бұрын
“More people would learn from their mistakes if they weren't so busy denying them.” ~ I wish I knew who said that first.
@ralphus555 4 жыл бұрын
Cool t shirt!
@issachunt3418 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for waking me up with notification bell.. watch 5 price 5
@ballisticarrow27 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly its growing on me. O ly thing I'd nick it for is the arrow on the minute hand and the date window.
@ElijsDima 4 жыл бұрын
"Good from afar, but far from good" oof, now that is a solid poetic burn.
@HeBeHu 4 жыл бұрын
Move the date dial tuo 6 o'clock, add a little color on the dial, say red seconds hand and make it smaller for example 40 mm and then you'd have a banging watch.
@HonestWatchReviewsHWR 4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking along the same lines myself.
@saintdave1877 4 жыл бұрын
I've got the Phoibos Eagle Ray gmt , pretty much all as you guys described except 3 o'clock date
@mrbacchus6127 4 жыл бұрын
Or buy an Oris 65
@diegorengifo6767 4 жыл бұрын
....and move the date window and make it more evenly between batons... That was the first thing I saw and just killed it for me on this watch.
@poulwinther 4 жыл бұрын
Oh please don't destroy it with red also.
@pczarn 4 жыл бұрын
Spot on analysis. Complete lack of symmetry.
@steved3387 4 жыл бұрын
I think this is an absolutely beautiful watch- YES... date window is off... but interesting!... for ME, if not a proper Dive look, THIS has enough looks for me- really stunning. HATE the 21 mm though... that's a bigger issue for me. Cheers,
@feralgrandad4429 4 жыл бұрын
I know its subjective but I love this watch. Once I find an affordable one on the used market I'm going to be on it.....?
@markstanton63 4 жыл бұрын
Could've been a contender ..... but they managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. When it comes to aesthetic preferences ~ symmetry IS everything ~
@commentjedi 4 жыл бұрын
Well , if you want more symmetry with any watch, Just take the hands off.
@PaulBd78 4 жыл бұрын
The Longines Heritage diver is more expensive, but it looks absolutely awesome IMHO
@NeilsHighLights 2 жыл бұрын
Hello!! I’m a big fan of your reviews and I usually learn something new from almost every video. But for this review I’ve got to disagree with each of your criticisms. Especially the date window. I think these are exactly the details that distinguish this watch and make me love it. If you want conservative classic symmetry, you have tens of thousands of watches to choose from. I say we embrace those who dare to be different and pull it off so well.
@omerfarukerdogan4614 4 жыл бұрын
Big rocks, like uneven shaped stones are put into ladscape parks, museums, to make us realize the beauty in other things, easier.
@FransLundquist 4 жыл бұрын
Like today's T-Shirt!
@Art_N_Science 4 жыл бұрын
hmm. I like the date window in that location. kind of new look.
@maximblazevich5291 3 жыл бұрын
I've never heard anyone reference the Oris 65 as much as in this video, and that includes videos made of the Oris 65.
@JustOneMoreWatch 3 жыл бұрын
True love mate. This thing doesn't come close.
@duncanwhite6279 2 жыл бұрын
I've been looking to buy one for my Christmas present , position of the date questionable , but got over it in a short minute , but no lume on the hour markers is a deal breaker .
@964tractorboy 4 жыл бұрын
It took me a good 300mS to spot the suspect date window. The most bizarre "implementation" I've ever seen. A right Horlicks, mate! Nice strap though with a bit of a Planet Ocean vibe. Keep the strap, bin the watch.
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