You must not have seem very many actresses before

Yes, she surely was.

Damn, damn, damn!

That scene reminded of when my dad died. Moma was trying to be so strong, but later that night, she broke down!!! That was one of the most gripping scenes of Good Time.

@@a.beatty8747 sorry you had to experience the loss of a parent!💕💕

I’m glad you and your family watched this show

I'm sure it was extra traumatic since your name is also James

@@srso4660 an attempt at humor I see?

She was also part of the problem they couldn't get out of the ghetto too

@Richard Almeida It would be the final episode where that happened. They had a gazillion opportunities before that too but Florida always tried to keep James home or from doing something that would benefit the family tremendously

She was so afraid James would leave her but I believe he finally did he did a Houdini

@Richard Almeida without her help

Too many subliminals with this show that triggered and scared the Black community!

Mine too . This was hard for me

You know it was just acting right? He didn't really die.

@@HyperInflation2020 Of course but we bond with the characters on TV emotionally you know

TV= program

@mr.b Of course It was just acting but please remember tv in the 70s wasn’t like now. People didn’t have access to television programs there was no streaming, black shows in prime time was few, when good times aired by the 4th season It was just as popular as the jeffersons and 227, people of color looked to these programs as representation for everywhere they didn’t see themselves. It was more than just tv

Lmao

Yep! Remarried and his daughter married a prince

I was sad until i read this comment. Thank you :)

Then he moved to Zamunda

!!!!!!! Ok that got me

The blacks would complain if they made a show like this again…

​@@JudeTavonFenwick I think their complaints are for a completely different reason now...

They tried by making it an animated series and it bombed.,,supposedly it was about the grandkids of Florida.

I think it's the second saddest. The saddest is The Fresh Prince scene how come he don't want me man? Can't watch it without crying.

Watch the All in the Family episode when Edith dies and Archie's monologue. omg Your heart will be in your throat.

Amen, brother. Talk about a buzzkill- having a party and, all of a sudden, hey- your dad’s dead 😔

debbieomi And when Gloria, Mike and Joey move away. 😭

@@juliefuraitor5610 Oh, yes! That's another heart string puller!

yep, I was like 8 or 9 when Penny was on good times....Always stayed in my head.

I was 13 as well when I saw this episode. I knew beforehand that Amos wasn't returning to the series. I had read in Jet Magazine that he wasn't going to return and that J.J.'s role would be revised to make his character more mature, as he would now be the man of the Evans' household. Hearing that the James character had died came as a shock, but because I knew Amos wasn't returning to the show, it wasn't a surprise.

I was 13 as well and I can’t remember if I knew that John Amos was leaving or not before this episode

I agree 100%

Why did they kill his character off? He was great on this show!

@@darkstarr2540 he had problems with the writers bc he said black ppl didn't act like that so they fired him

Pretty much.

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For real

James wasn’t the show but he was the link that kept the show popular. Jimmy Walker thought it was him that he could carry the show due to his popularity at the time. If anyone of the cast members left the show or died off.....the show would have died as well. If I am wrong...who could the show had missed? Wineona?

I remember it to , I was a little boy at the time watching it with my parents and siblings on a Saturday night and part 2 had me in tears at the end when Florida had her meltdown. I remember it all too well. I still cry if I watch that episode even more now because my father is gone and he reminded me of James.

This show went down hill after john Amos who played James, left the show

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@@KingD-light The scene where Florida (Estelle Rolls) dropped the glass punch bowl was so heartbreaking.

@@user-jk3bq8nr2v how was that funny?

Where did he get a job at Mississippi, well Mississippi down south in the 70s was a lot more racist at the time. They could’ve moved to like Georgia or something

@@RealDaveTalk have you ever watched the show it was a celebration turned into a tragedy

@@RealDaveTalk He got a job in a garage.

@@RealDaveTalk Atlanta would have been the perfect city back then. If they had to go down south.

I was thinking Chicago to Mississippi just doesn't seem right..🤔

I think you mean years

@@The_Old_Soul_Artist dude really 🫣

Your sort of a monster.

👋🏿I was!!!!😁👌🏿👍🏿

@@teenfromtexas7579 PHONY AZZ!

@Sharon Hudson when she said that i sorta felt her pain.

@Sharon Hudson do yxkfk for the same code you have a good Vu for the last

of the world, come New EArth new Heavens. they world is a system it clouded up everthing but burns nicely

Oh please. It was still good after his demise.

@@TF-gf3fs You're wrong. The ratings declined irreversibly without John Amos (James Evans).

@@TF-gf3fs There were a few good episodes, but once Florida also left it just wasn't the same

​@@JAWrightonlineThe ratings held steady the following season. But they dropped after Rolle left and it became the JJ show. Amos was fired after season 3, and Rolle left after season 4, both because of disagreements with the direction of the show. Writers got their way, and the ratings plummeted after that.

dubois died,when was that?

Dubois died last year. She was seventy to four years old. Seventy four years old.

@@staceyharper7827 She died earlier this year, 2020.

@@-elchoya9832 Earlier this year, 2020

@@kadrae5277 you were right. Ja net dubois died on February twentieth of this year. Thank you for correcting me.

And still kicking

He a AllStar **In my Primms voice**

Dallas did well after Jock died lasted a long time

Edith when they killed her off form All in the Family

Ir ChArmed?Without Shannen Doherty

jr was the main character on dallas

Or when Dallas had Bobby Ewing die. Heard they never recovered from that . Or the New Dallas where Jr. Ewing Died Never recovered from that

I agree with you I stopped watching when took James off.

John Amos was initially positive about playing the role of James as he thought it would be a positive portrayal of an African American family. Overtime he clashed with the show's producers and writers over the authenticity of African American experiences as well as them having JJ say Dynomite in every episode. This is why he was fired from the show. Esther Rolle did not like the way they portrayed JJ and left the show at the end of the following season.

Too strong of a character. He was taking the shine from Kid Dynamite.

@@adamedwards2435 Your BOY JJ wasn't speaking to EITHER OF THEM... Understand this, these 2 ppl who played his parents ARE ACTORS. HE was a comedian who was put into a TV SHOW. HE WAS A MARGINAL COMEDIAN.. AT BEST SWEETIE...I KNOW CUZ I WAS THERE B4 HE EVER BECAME FAMOUS. DAVE CHAPPELLE HE'S NOT, AND HE SURE THE FUCK AIN'T RICHARD PRYOR... NOT IN THIS LIFETIME OF ANY OTHER. BUT REMEMBER...HE WAS WITHIN THE SAME TIMEFRAME. LET THAT sink in before you go talking about how he shines ok? He was a 1 trick pony honey🐴! Think about this....he's in his 70's and WHAT THE FUCK is Jimmy Walker even known for hmmm? Oh yeah....he said Dy-No-Miiiite back in the mid 1970s. HMMM... what WAS that next big move that JJ Walker moved onto after he got his foot in the entertainment door here. Oh you know...RIGHT AFTER "THE OLD MAN" who you claim was talking his "shine" 💩 away from him? Oh yeah... nothing. Sooo .. What WAS John Amos' next move AFTER being fired for wanting to have the show NOT MADE INTO A CARICATURE BY JJ WALKER....BUT JJ WAS totally ok with participating as a minstrel for them hmmm? JOHN AMOS DID THE 4 NIGHT/8 HOUR MINISERIES ROOTS. THINK about it like this....isn't it embarrassing for your Mr Shine to be in his MID 70's... YET STILL have less to show for his personal career OR his financial success. I mean after all, HE'S supposedly such the big star right? EVEN DEAD...SOME OF THE CAST MEMBERS HAVE HIGHER NET WORTH AND SOME OF THEM....THEY NEVER FUCKING WORKED IN TV>>>EVER AGAIN. LOL! #PickBETTERHeroes "'Good Times': Did John Amos Leave 'Good Times' Because of J.J. Evans?" www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/good-times-did-john-amos-leave-good-times-because-of-j-j-evans.html/

Thats because they had to remove his character of the show because Dwight man had to start the mind programming of our people to not have the father figure in the house. His intimidation of the black man/father is REAL

it was

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Guess what I was going through the bank and see you tomorrow at all I can do

The original plan was to enhance J.J.'s role on the show to become the man of the house. With James out of the picture, they tried to expand J.J.'s character to become more dramatic, but that obviously didn't work. They found out that James was actually the heart of the family as well as the show. Although he never admitted, Lear had to know that firing Amos was a terrible mistake that lead to the show's downfall.

@@lwmson The departure of Amos was indeed a mistake, although JJ later did become a responsible and accomplished commercial artist who held the family together when Florida temporarily left the scene. (That was another mistake, although Esther Rolle made that one. Florida was a religious woman and devoted mother who would never run off with an atheist boy friend to Arizona while leaving her children behind in the ghetto). Amos and Lear would reconcile to create the show 704 Hauser, but that was a disaster. The thought of another family living in Archie Bunker's house was not tolerable to the audience, and the show was simply bad.

@@nassauguy48 Esther Rolle left the show in protest. She disagreed with the way Jimmie Walker was acting on set, and the way the writers were playing it up in the scripts. The explanation they used to take Florida off the show for that time was ridiculous, and the show never recovered, even after her return the next season. Norman Lear realized too late that the show couldn’t be based around JJ. His character never showed any growth or progression for him to suddenly mature and play the role of helping Wilona parent Michael and Thelma.

even though they humbly worked with each other on the movie lets do it again?

Yeah I read somewhere yeah John Amos had issues with character of JJ. He felt that the character was a throw back of minstrel days of black entertainment

yup. I was just about to be 5 years old, in kindergarten

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@jasondeebee it's a slap in the face

I felt the same way about the castaways getting off the island.

I think they did in the final episode

I agree. It didn't make sense that they would send a telegram to inform a woman that her husband was killed. Of course the family getting all those telegrams didn't make sense either. I was around the same age as Michael and I don't recall my parents ever getting a telegram.

@@jusssayin480 EXACTLY!!!!

Lol.......they did get a phone call. There was another scene they did for this.

I think it was suppose to be absurd. I mean, the people downstairs telegramed them to complain about the noise!

I believe it was a dis due to the severed relationship.

Yup. This is around 1976-'77, and Vietnam just ended. Thought why not also a phone call from the Authorities in Mississippi would have at least called them as well? So even as poor as the Evans was, at the very least then, the Mississippi officials could contacted Chicago PD to send an Officer to tell the terrible news.

@Hulk Tosado - No we're joking *cue eye roll*

Artistic license and who knows maybe someone did call them but they didn't have a answering machine and was going to call back again the next day but they got the voicemail which was sent as well at the same time

John Amos was fired because of creative differences, though. He wasn't killed off for a ratings boost. "Jumping the shark" is when a TV show works in some kind of gimmick-y story arc in a desperate attempt to drum up viewership. That wasn't the case in this scenario.

and once it jumps the shark, it's downhill from there.

I agree with Afi James on this one.

Why was he fired?

Um…no. JJ’s character was a caricature and was reminiscent of the black face characters earlier in the century. That’s the main reason why the fired the actor. He spoke out against it behind the scenes.

nah after Florida quit she got an entire different life.

Telegrams still are widely used. It was more reliable than calling in the telephone.

Still.actually did broke down for real

The only time I saw a telegram used in a show or movie was A League Of Their Own

LMFAO hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha hahaha pretty much!

@@jonmacdonald5345 Thank Goodness. I didn't like his character.

@@leonablackwell4907 that's because you're a Typical BT1000

@@leonablackwell4907 He didn't like you, either.

@@leonablackwell4907 he was a real black dad... Lol. You will never know.

...PREACH!

They were the first deaths of lead characters in a TV show.

Word!!!

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PRREACH!!!

Louder for the people in the back

You ain't kidding that is what's wrong with today's kids being bratty

You know that's BernNadette Stanis' husband at the time, right? They divorced a few years later. They did a week's worth of Tattletales game show episodes together. They're on KZfaq.

When James died, it was the beginning of the end.

@@staceyharper7827 I know