Goodbye Black Widow

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In our headlights
Staring, bleak
Beer cans
Deer's eyes
On the asphalt
Underneath
Our crushed plans
And my lies
Lonely street signs
Power lines
They keep on flashing
Flashing by
And we keep driving into the night
It's a late goodbye
Such a late goodbye
And we keep driving into the night
It's a late goodbye
Your breath
Hot upon my cheek
And we crossed
That line
You made me strong
When I was feeling weak
And we crossed
That one time
Screaming stop signs
Staring wild eyes
Keep on flashing
Flashing by
And we keep driving into the night
It's a late goodbye
Such a late goodbye
And we keep driving into the night
It's a late goodbye
The devil grins from ear to ear when he sees the hand he's dealt us
Points at your flaming hair and then we're playin' hide and seek
I can't breathe easy here 'less our trail's gone cold behind us
'Til then the john mirror you stare at yourself grown old and weak
We keep driving into the night
It's a late goodbye
Such a late goodbye
And we keep driving into the night
It's a late goodbye
Such a late goodbye
And we keep driving into the night
It's a late goodbye
Such a late goodbye
And we keep driving into the night
It's a late goodbye
Such a late goodbye
And we keep driving into the night
It's a late goodbye
Such a late goodbye
And we keep driving into the night...
Content:
0:00 - Introduction
2:21 - Key Concepts, Natasha and Socialisation
5:42 - Act 1
7:36 - Act 2
11:39 - Act 3
15:08 - Obligatory music tribute
16:36 - Discussion
19:21 - Conclusion
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@Aisha_Luv 2 жыл бұрын

For me I thought it was clear that this was about Nat facing and accepting her past rather than just running away and atoning for it. This is personified by Taskmaster being a mistake she thought she could forget about coming back to haunt her.

@robertangus616 2 жыл бұрын

Black Widow as a film is not a top 10 MCU film for me but I think some fans have exaggerated the problems it does have by creating ones it doesn't, the Taskmaster twist is a perfect example of this. No the character is not the same character as he is in the comics but neither are any major hero or villain because they are being adapted for mainstream audiences. Natasha's character arc in the MCU has been about her attempting to redeem herself for the crimes she committed as an assassin ever since her confrontation with Loki in The Avengers about the people she has murdered, in particular Dreykov's daughter. The reveal that Antonia Dreykov is alive and being forced by her father to act as essentially an even deadlier widow make perfect sense for the final chapter in her story because she spends 2/3 of the film literally running away from her past personified as dark reflection of herself before freeing Antonia and finally completing her redemption

@applepie1272 2 жыл бұрын

The thing with this movie is that,it doesn't feel like we FEEL for them,like they're using they're voice to contact the problem...IN A NUTSHELL...THEY TELL,NOT SHOW...and thats a problem cause if your just gonna tell us without showing it,THEN ARE WE EVEN GONNA CARE??(of what the're talking about not the actual movie) EXAMPLE: Black Widow:I killed her(taskmaster's real name or wtf it is) Like we know that she killed her but we dont know if its important later,AND ANOTHER THING...THERE IS A PLOT TWIST OF HER ALIVE...But we didnt care at first cause she only got mentioned THROUGH V O I C E isntead of a SCENES and FEELINGS THROUGHT BLACK WIDOW One more thing,they keep mentioning this dude AJAK but we are like,"WHO IS THIS AJAK?SHOW US!!" but when Ajak was shown...WE'RE LIKE **OHHH THIS DUDE FROM THE START WHY DIDNT YOU USE CLIPS OF HIM INSTEAD OF JUST TALKING ABOUT HIM** There is alot of this things in the movie,and I hope u get my point

@robertangus616 2 жыл бұрын

@@applepie1272 I so understand, and like I said at the beginning the film has problems but the Taskmaster twist for me at the very least is not one of them also Ajak is a member of the Eternals you are thinking of Dreykov who is named by the Red Guardian during the prologue so as long as you are paying attention then it isn't show not tell

@RedEveTillDawn 2 жыл бұрын

That’s how I saw it

@robertangus616 2 жыл бұрын

@Zach D I agree that this is a Phase 4 version of the Mandarin because Trevor Slattery was confirmed on screen to NOT be the Mandarin at all if you mean Aldrich Killian then that still doesn't work because he only used the name once to Iron Man that he was behind the plot of Iron Man 3 they never once suggest that Killian was the Mandarin behind the Ten Rings and we will see the true Mandarin Wenwu in Shang-Chi it is perfectly possible that we will see Tony Masters take the costume from Antonia Dreykov and become Taskmaster at a later time

@Spidervenom23 2 жыл бұрын

@Zach D Because... Antonia.. Is... Not... Taskmaster... Antonia is simply the Taskmaster Protocol. No one else except for Yelena Once calls Antonia Taskmaster.

@ImplicitlyPretentious 2 жыл бұрын

Invincible coming soon......... (Suicide Squad too)

@SageNaruto25 2 жыл бұрын

“THINK, TRAUMA, THINK!“ -Omni-Man; probably [?]

@PunctualBerryBoy 2 жыл бұрын

@@SageNaruto25 this is really good lmao

@geodiaz3661 2 жыл бұрын

One of these days you should do Luke Skywalker and the original Trilogy

@macmcleod1188 2 жыл бұрын

Invincible is very good. And the Invincible comic book is very good and has a good beginning middle and ending. The crater was involved with the animated series and took the opportunity make some tuning changes but it's very faithful to the source material in general. I'm sure you'll do a great job with it now that you're a sleazy KZfaqr.

@sazencha 2 жыл бұрын

😍😍

@noaromanova7475 2 жыл бұрын

Nat has always been in a pretty rough spot as a character, getting handed off from writer to writer through the MCU. I've always hoped for a comic-faithful rendition of her character, and always wanted to see how the MCU would handle the Red Room. Considering what the MCU left writers to work with re: her timeline and story, I think they did a pretty great job keeping true to her character. As a fan who's been attached to this character for years, I'm actually pretty satisfied with this movie. Also, congrats on making me cry over this movie AGAIN. :p

@ninjanibba4259 2 жыл бұрын

This film had so much potential and it just frustrates me to the highest, none of it matters now….Natasha deserved better

@PrinceLuis100 2 жыл бұрын

Good. We already got Yelena. High time to say goodbye to Natasha anyway.

@emblemblade9245 2 жыл бұрын

Did she die because of unrenewed contract like with RDJ and Tony Stark? Her death always felt out of place to me. She did deserve better

@Spidervenom23 2 жыл бұрын

@@emblemblade9245 I truly believe that Marvel was always going to Bring Nat back sometime before Avengers 5 but Disney gotta be DIsney and screw everything up.

@PixlPlayer 2 жыл бұрын

I didn’t realize people didn’t like this movie. Sure the fight scenes were pretty bad, and the whole pheromones thing was weird, but other than that it was a fine marvel movie with some cool camera work. Also quite an amazing opening

@Lazypackmule 2 жыл бұрын

Most people started off on a bad foot with it purely because Taskmaster was kinda ruined

@CrossOutBryce 2 жыл бұрын

I like everything up until they actually get to the Red Room. It just becomes mostly generic action then.

@mattgilbert7347 2 жыл бұрын

The opening was promising. It was all downhill from there.

@A-G-A-G 2 жыл бұрын

@@CrossOutBryce that’s like every single marvel film’s third act though idk why everyone’s hating only on this one

@ivanagustinortiz5237 2 жыл бұрын

@@A-G-A-G probably because a lot of them are starting to notice their lazyness

@dinahlance 2 жыл бұрын

i feel like y’all are forgetting that mcu natasha is very much possibly enhanced like her comic counterpart in the way where she’s very durable and pain tolerant cus they’ve been alluding to it in numerous mcu films since the avengers 😵‍💫

@Destyn2b 2 жыл бұрын

I appreciate this! I felt like I was the only one who liked the movie more because it tied up so many things and made her scenes in the last two movies more emotional. It's not a perfect movie, but I really enjoyed it.

@dragonmcmx 2 жыл бұрын

You provide unique takes and deeper insights even into movies I dislike. Definitely one of my top video essayists!

@ImplicitlyPretentious 2 жыл бұрын

Aww thanks! I try to be as clinical as possible so I can let the text speak for itself!

@Tracker947 2 жыл бұрын

"Video Essayist" has become a dead art to me, but I'm glad to see it's still got signs of life with gems like this channel.

@ayanna6327 2 жыл бұрын

I really didn't have any major problems with the movie. I loved it. I have annoyances, but nothing that ruined it for me.

@Yibambe. 2 ай бұрын

People are always harder on women-led films. I loved Black Widow, too.

@vittoriacolona 2 жыл бұрын

I loved this film. It's the most sophisticated one Marvel has put out. With the themes about family, lost child hood and slavery. It absolutely amazing that they didn't just make it a cartoon about Natasha doing kung fu and killing people. It was actually very psychological and heartbreaking. That scene when young Nat tells Melina that she doesn't want to go back was so disturbing When I first watched it I naturally thought she didn't want to go back to Russia. But she's talking the Widow program (which is an allegory to forced prostitution).

@MsDiving1 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for catching that last bit. I work with trafficking survivors and the whole film centers heavily on many experiences these individuals have:the complicated familial relationships, the trauma bond between the victim and their trafficker, the guilt and I’m surprised how few people seem to recognize that.

@inazuma3gou 2 жыл бұрын

I really wish the movie had kept outside-of-MCU tone at the beginning and kept it down to Earth. It would have fit well with the human aspects of the movie that you described beautifully in your essay.

@ryansproviero 2 жыл бұрын

Your style is so calm and relaxing. Thank you for the quality sir.

@Flaris 2 жыл бұрын

I kind of like the little shots taken to the movie's logic. Honestly they made some of these characters so indestructible that I half expected a reveal that they also got super soldier serum or that Natasha actually survived Endgame. This movie seemed to make a point that fall damage isn't a thing. Not a terrible movie or anything. It was fine. A bit too late and kind of a less impactful Winter Soldier, but still had moments worth seeing. And certainly is a story that has a place. Just really is too bad they didn't make this when it is supposed to have happened.

@305Independent 2 жыл бұрын

Yelena was the best part of this movie, hands down. While the movie itself wasn't really that good, I'm really excited to see more of her.

@christophereadgbe2976 2 жыл бұрын

0:08 seconds in and I already know I'm going to cry...

@gilbert60453 2 жыл бұрын

I really hate what Disney did to the widow, how could they make a captain marvel movie before a black widow movie, and the movies after infinity war show Ironman as a hero but what about widow, it's like she was wiped from exsistance

@raviamodernepic 2 жыл бұрын

The plot was a bit contrived and fits clunky, but I enjoyed the narrative overall. You and Kevin F. always know how to contextualize these stories to fit into my everyday. 👏🏾👏🏾🙌🏾

@skydreamer2253 2 жыл бұрын

You really made me gain a new perspective that left me leaving the movie theater lukewarm. I think you and cinemawins do such a great job at pointing out the best parts of the movies that people may of hated or like me really liked some parts but felt conflicted about all the rest. You pick out scenes I may of thought to been clunky and point their true purpose to matter how corny or seemingly insignify. I still think the movie is quite underwhelming and I wish was more consistent with it's tone and messaging but your review made me realized what I liked about it so much in the begining.

@littlerocker121314 2 жыл бұрын

As a person who hates bugs, I will stick up for 1 type of bug and bioluminescent bugs are some of the most cool bugs ever, they create light and that’s super cool.

@Spidervenom23 2 жыл бұрын

One thing I love about this film is that both Nat and Yel are like their parents unlike most of the MCU Parents. Both Tash and Yel are still Children who hasn't grown up like Alexei (Hell Nat might be even been younger then Yelena is since she unlike Yelena lost her babyhood and Yelena only lost her childhood) and still are that ball of Resentment like Melina. These two are perfect combo of their "Fake" Parents.

@kwesibusia 2 жыл бұрын

Anyone who can type out the lyrics to an underrated Max Payne 2 song has my undying respect. The essay was great too! 👍🏾

@Omix32 2 жыл бұрын

I don't like the MCU, but these essays always make me enjoy a sort of "what-if" read. Ty Imp!

@artboymoy 2 жыл бұрын

Whoa... You were taken out like Araragi in Owarimonogatari and are in the afterlife... Great vid. I love me some Yelena.

@JoeEnglandShow 2 жыл бұрын

I liked it well enough. Not the best Marvel movie, but it was okay. I thought it really picked up in the third act. Thanks for clarifying some of the subtler themes, and its utility in the overall MCU.

@macmcleod1188 2 жыл бұрын

I think they screwed her over and only made this movie to try and sell their new product. There were so many missed opportunities in this movie. Many of the characters scenes were top-notch and very enjoyable but the action scenes were lackluster, and horribly edited. Or many of the actors were incapable of doing they're part of the stunt work. You know something's wrong when the action scenes compares unfavorably to Liam Neeson's Infamous 13 cut climb over 6 foot high fence. And in his defense he was in his mid-60s. However the most egregious point for me, was spending one or two full minutes showing us how strong the Red Guardian was and then not making the fight between Red Guardian and Taskmaster a battle between brute strength and high-skill. It was like putting a half dozen guns on the wall at the start of the play, showing us the main character practice shooting the guns, and then never using them. One thing I've noticed since the movie as that I really by the young girl as young Tasha. Excellent casting. Good writing and acting too. By the way this channel is awesome and I love it. I love your self deprecating and dry sense of humor.

@Chasing_santino 2 жыл бұрын

She was my favorite part and only good part to me of the movie, she looks a lot like Scarlett with long hair. I hope to see a Disney plus red room spinoff with her

@ImplicitlyPretentious 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I was typing as many notes as possible the whole time, so I didn't really develop any opinion outside of being confused why everyone was speaking in a Russian accent when they could just be speaking Russian since they're Russian

@Chasing_santino 2 жыл бұрын

@@ImplicitlyPretentious I thought it would have been interesting for natasha to tell mason in an intimate scene that the reason she doesn’t have an accent is because growing up in the red room she had to learn multiple languages at once so doesn’t have a first language, it’s a lot better than saying it just faded

@MxSherwood 2 жыл бұрын

@@Chasing_santino, Natasha’s lack of a Russian accent actually just made sense to me from a technical perspective on a acquisition, given the prologue. She spent three years in an American school during the latter part of her critical period. Natasha doesn’t have a foreign accent the same way Mila Kunis doesn’t, more or less. Yelena’s accent seems to me to be lighter than all the other Russian-accented speakers’, even though she does still have one. This is kind of expected since she spent the early part of her critical period in an American school (or kindergarten I guess) but didn’t have that for the majority of the period. That also tracks. All the others ofc are second language speakers, so it makes sense they’d have an accent. As for everyone speaking English, I think it makes sense for the four members of the “family”, at least. They would’ve been paired together not long before being dispatched, and to maintain cover they would’ve had to only speak in English for the duration of the mission. They were then all separated. When you mostly associate a language with someone and/or with a social setting, you kind of just codeswitch to that without thinking when speaking to that person or whe put in that situation.

@Chasing_santino 2 жыл бұрын

@@MxSherwood I like that last paragraph u wrote but i don’t like how she didn’t have one then had one and then didn’t have one again, I think her not having a first language is impressive that she managed to do that and is a new unexpected insight especially when this movie didn’t offer any insight to who she is anything little like that for me would be appreciated

@CrossOutBryce 2 жыл бұрын

I thought her character arc worked, but the third act was just so...uninspired and generic. I've no problem with who Taskmaster is (and it's pretty easy to bring in the comic accurate one later), but they barely used their copy powers at ALL. We also barely got to see the fight of brute strength vs. skill when they fought Red Guardian. Red Guardian could've also gotten more serious or down to earth scenes to seem like less of a joke IMO.

@qemuel 2 жыл бұрын

I have yet to watch Black Widow but found it impossible to avoid spoilers considering all the drama around the movie. Therefore, I couldn't resist going ahead and watching your video. I find myself torn about Taskmaster, who is one of my favorite villains in the comics. But the fact that I am a staunch defender of Iron Man 3 and the Mandarin/Trevor twist makes me want to give this a fair chance (at least as fair as possible now, all things considered). Regardless, your thoughts on these matters are always welcome, so thanks as always for a solid video! 👍

@Duiker36 2 жыл бұрын

Well, you know that twist going in now, so it shouldn't be so bad. It mostly seems to have been a big gut punch for comics fans, but for people who weren't invested in Taskmaster before the movie, it's a perfectly solid plot twist. It's not the best ever (it could have used some more setup), but it works inside the mechanics of the narrative.

@yt20244account 2 жыл бұрын

@@Duiker36 but what was the point of it?

@TheMegaPrimus 2 жыл бұрын

I will literally take a second lunch just to watch this ASAP

@canisfabico 2 жыл бұрын

Black Widow Critique: The Late Trauma.

@PegasusPablo 2 жыл бұрын

What a gorgeous homage!

@angrywizard3199 2 жыл бұрын

I really liked this movie aside from the cgi towards the end (and the villain, but that's just cause pheromones are bullshit and the dude was very scummy, which in a way was a plus)

@DedicatedtoErik 2 жыл бұрын

The observations in this video *chef's kiss*

@ImplicitlyPretentious 2 жыл бұрын

Aww thanks! I literally made notes as I was watching the film so I could find as many patterns as possible!

@armanke13 2 жыл бұрын

For me it's the medium.. Her story could be told in TV miniseries, cramming down into one big movie is so difficult. That said the editing could have better rhythm so it shouldn't jumping and fall like unpredictable covid cases, 😅

@himum3429 2 жыл бұрын

I swear that goes for every mcu film even the good ones. If they were series like falcon winter + soldier size they'd all be better.

@caroldevaney7630 2 жыл бұрын

Really enjoyed this video, it felt like you muttered a lot more asides though and they were very hard to hesr

@samusismyhero 2 жыл бұрын

Another quality Implicitly Pretentious video ♥️

@KrazyKobold 2 жыл бұрын

Well done!

@WottsOG 2 жыл бұрын

Honestly I would’ve preferred for black widow would’ve been a Budapest movie with her and Hawkeye

@flaccidacid6819 2 жыл бұрын

i am not an mcu fan. the exact opposite. theres only a handful of mcu movies i actually like. and even still theres so many aspects even to the ones that i do like that make me hate the movies. i haven't seen a marvel movie as good as black window since phase one of the mcu. solid 6/10.

@dinahlance 2 жыл бұрын

was looking forward to your in depth analysis! it had a poignant story and was very heartfelt. a top tier movie i fear #tome. my favorite film atm.. definitely need a trilogy and resurrection with inspo from her comic resurrection idk the mcu did natalia real dirty and underutilized her a lot but she was still eating down so we move!

@adammyers7383 2 жыл бұрын

“They were never as bad as she thought” Her “parents” helped brainwash and corrupt thousands of little girls-including Natasha and Yelena-into killing machines. I guess sure, they loved Yelena and Nat in their own broken way, but while I can understand how reconnecting with Yelena helped her I don’t understand at all how there was anything healthy about reconnecting with and seemingly forgiving her “parents”. I get what they were going for but it’s not a particularly healthy message to send.

@kirk001 2 жыл бұрын

I think the explanation is she thought her "parents" were worse--the type who would willingly choose to brainwash and corrupt thousands of girls. The reality is Red Guardian was simply clueless, too self absorbed and insecure about his own ego to know what he was helping with, and Melina was complicit, but essentially afraid and cowardly. They're not so much malicious as they are too weak to stand up for what is right.

@adammyers7383 2 жыл бұрын

@@kirk001 I get what you’re saying, but I’d argue that just because they didn’t do it maliciously doesn’t mean they didn’t do it willingly. It’s like how Natasha blew up Dreykov’s daughter-just because she didn’t like doing it, it doesn’t mean she isn’t guilty of it (that’s another thing actually, Antonia really shouldn’t have reconciled with Nat)

@Duiker36 2 жыл бұрын

@@adammyers7383 If someone apologizes, and through their actions tries to make it better, that is a good thing and worth encouraging. If they regress, or repeat, or show no remorse, then you discard them. Human beings fuck up. You might not want to give them a second chance, but don't stop others from doing so.

@adammyers7383 2 жыл бұрын

@@Duiker36 but in the context of wider pop culture, it’s important to show more that no one is owed forgiveness or a second chance. I have little issue with this in a vacuum but media taught me personally that heroes forgive and give more chances to the people who caused the most harm, and I learned the hard way how that mindset works in real life-so because it isn’t in a vacuum, we need more representation of heroes acknowledging that no one is owed forgiveness after crossing the line. Think about what this movie ends up saying about how abused little girls should view their abusive parents. Hell Red Guardian’s remorse was used for several jokes and he ended up not even saying it. Abusive family in particular is often at the center of forgiveness arcs in pop culture but more pop culture needs to acknowledge being family and even growing past your abusive tendencies doesn’t mean the person you abused owes you anything.

@adammyers7383 2 жыл бұрын

@@Duiker36 I had a very different opinion much closer to yours a few years ago, but then I kept trying to forgive people who abused me. The trauma I developed in return was definitely not worth it.

@indatube 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for helping me appreciate this film more! I wonder how they could've improved the delivery. Once it's part of cinematic history I want to view it sequentially (or at least misremember it) between civil war and endgame like it should've been released if it weren't for the sexiest studio head.

@macmcleod1188 2 жыл бұрын

I really found the single Target of the red on her ledger to feel very forced and artificial. What about all the other people in the building? What about all the other people she's assassinated? I don't think her issue should have been completely absolved in this movie. I felt that a large part of the reason she made the choice she did in endgame was that she still had buckets of blood on her ledger.

@matthewparker9276 2 жыл бұрын

I don't think the movie presented her as being fully absolved. This is her atoning for one mistake, leaving a specific job unfinished.

@ipodclassic91 2 жыл бұрын

All of your MCU videos always strikes a nerve with me because I know things are different now....the story we've all been following for 10+ years is over with. And watching your detailed videos on the characters I like is bittersweet bc I no longer have a story to follow or look forward to....I mean sure there's D.S. 2 & GOTG 3 & Thor 4 but those are just continuations of previous movies released within phases that aren't coming back 😥😥😥

@himum3429 2 жыл бұрын

Spiderman is an infinitely more popular and better character than Tony. Carol needs some work to replace thor but she probably won't need to because thor will likely continue on throughout 10 Yr sagas, even if he's no longer a regular with a franchise behind him. But honestly thor wasnt the greatest character after thor 1 so she defo has time within her own franchise to develop. The big problem is tchalla as even though they might be marketing Sam cap as caps replacement he is a literal replacement not the figurative mcu Spearhead replacement that was supposed to be tchalla hence why in endgame we saw tchalla, Peter and Carol doing what the OG 3 couldnt by basically playing catch with the gauntlet. With chadwicks death he'll likely be replaced by a different hero possibly the new star shang chi? Either way it seems like doc strange will take the hulks spot and do what he couldn't by actually having films of his own. Spidey = tony Shang chi= cap Cap marvel= thor Doc strange = hulk What's not to love?

@ipodclassic91 2 жыл бұрын

@@himum3429 nahhhh the only movies I'm gonna be interested in are the continuation movies (D.S. 2; GOTG 3; possibly Thor 4) and after those I'm done with the mcu. The mcu lost Cap the only moral compass they had (& quite frankly a character who aligns with my morals) and now he's gone, there's no replacing him....(Sam is mehhh; I prefer bucky tbh), the mcu as a whole is just empty/dead atp with recycled characters or new characters I don't care to invest in 🙃🙃

@TheIronmannNr1 2 жыл бұрын

whats the music/song at 1:50 called? The intro song

@thegoldman25 2 жыл бұрын

You should cover the Mandalorian

@ImplicitlyPretentious 2 жыл бұрын

I wrote something out for it a while back, but there's way too much going on right now for me to get back to it, especially when I still really want to write an essay about Cultural Amnesia first

@nickshaffer80 2 жыл бұрын

FIRST edit: WHATS THIS, NO MENTION OF T R A U M A

@ImplicitlyPretentious 2 жыл бұрын

saving it for the punisher video 😂

@pinklemons7254 2 жыл бұрын

16:32 "Hello. Can you hear me?"

@TKWNNGGT Жыл бұрын

Welp i had the volume at max in the begining of the video 💀

@sukarnakundu9398 2 жыл бұрын

From this video I get to know that you hate bioluminescent bugs deeply😆

@Saje3D 2 жыл бұрын

Gawd forbid anyone ever interpret a character differently. Never happens in the comics. Read The Hulk lately?

@A_O_Leary 2 жыл бұрын

It should have been released before infinity war or between infinity war and endgame it would made her death had most impactful and reinforced why she was still at HQ looking for signs of promise after 5 years. It’s weird to go into this movie and have it end with ‘promise’ when we know where her eh, endgame goes.

@mrwinter6671 2 жыл бұрын

11:50 hehe, I get that reference

@2nd3rd1st 2 жыл бұрын

It's the circus of values!

@lifeofslice 2 жыл бұрын

Weird to bring up socialization at all if its a 2 part process and not to mention the secondary socialization which is vital to Natasha's as it gave her skills

@thevoid99 2 жыл бұрын

i did like the film though the theatrical screening i went to was horrendous as the projector went to shit not once but 3 times. it killed whatever enjoyment i had for the film. it is a flawed film but still a fun one. i love yelena and i hope to see her in many more adventures as an avenger and have a ladies night with wanda, monica, captain marvel, sylvie, hunter b-15, nebula, gamora, mantis, wasp, okoye, princess shuri, and the ladies from "eternals" and "shang-chi" where they drink tequila!

@TalixZen 2 жыл бұрын

13:08 *correction* Melina, not Yelana. :) (You even show Melina when you say it)

@MrRedJragon 2 жыл бұрын

Not watched the video yet but glad you made it. Watching now.

@feanaro2712 2 жыл бұрын

Really great deep dive into the film, and into Natasha's over all story arc.

@abbeyreed7279 2 жыл бұрын

i’m accidentally very early

@kritichaplot5025 2 жыл бұрын

You somehow managed to redeem the movie even though it clearly had problems

@superstringcheese 2 жыл бұрын

I was really hoping for more of a Logan treatment, but I guess it could have been worse.

@Chasing_santino 2 жыл бұрын

I disagree I can’t possibly see how this movie could have been worse, I was hoping for a Logan and dark knight type of movie with a beautiful indie style to keep it unique like lore which the director also directed

@user-lh3ic7ym8h 2 жыл бұрын

@aaaaaaaaam 2 жыл бұрын

very fascinating essay, thank you "prometheus bringing fire back to the gods"

@Chasing_santino 2 жыл бұрын

I lost so much love/respect for marvel when I watched this movie, this was one of the biggest heartbreaks in my life and it ended up being a safe generic marvel movie when this could have been a mix between the dark knight, Logan and a mix with beautiful indie movies like the director does to make it unique

@vittoriacolona 2 жыл бұрын

"it ended up being a safe generic marvel movie" -- A generic marvel movie? You're kidding right? A film which is an allegory about childhood trauma, the nature of a lost family and the dehumanization of people. That to you is generic?

@Chasing_santino 2 жыл бұрын

@@vittoriacolona I’m not kidding. You can make this plot about anything it being the things u described doesn’t make it different. Everything is this movie was put through the Disney filter in a bad way. So yes generic

@Chasing_santino 2 жыл бұрын

@@vittoriacolona if this movie is your definition of edgy then good for u, just make sure u never go beyond Disney cause it might be to much for u

@B3llaBambin4 2 жыл бұрын

16:23 Its kinda sad that Natasha never got to hear Alexi's apology.

@JaeBrazen 2 жыл бұрын

I love disgusting bio-luminescent bugs!

@scarletspectre 2 жыл бұрын

amazing video. I so badly want you to do one on Doctor Who.

@pape14 2 жыл бұрын

I liked this movie I guess but I don’t like thinking about the plot lol. It is SUPER flimsy

@francibrasilis 2 жыл бұрын

What's the deal with William Hurt's weird makeup? Is General Ross supposed to look younger or older? I imagine he'll pop up again in the MCU (probably in the She-Hulk show, I guess that would make sense) and they want him to look different. Does anybody know anything? Or is it just badly done?

@Chasing_santino 2 жыл бұрын

He’s sick

@smac646 2 жыл бұрын

KZfaq bouta demonitize you for cartoon blood

@ImplicitlyPretentious 2 жыл бұрын

and a popping eyeball

@Demonreached 2 жыл бұрын

2:44 I'd still be into your content if you diversified.

@morgancoffman7504 2 жыл бұрын

they should've just given her a show on disney + like hawkeye (and both shows would aim to say good bye/usher in new characters) and black widows show could bounce between this plot and the budapest one.

@normfarris3430 2 жыл бұрын

Good analysis. If only the Marvel combine were actually trying to do that. Instead, they used her in many cases as a cheap add-on to make other people's stories more believable and in the end fridged her to provide development and motivation for a (forgettable) male character. In the end, it is a very conventional and sexist fate for her character. That's why her (lack of) an arc and eventual death infuriates so many Black Widow fans. In an MCU world where we are getting pitched the return of so many characters from oblivion (the overwhelming majority of the male) the insistence of the movie in particular and the MCU in general the Natasha is dead and stays that way seems obtuse. It is also, in the end gender biased, in a most pedestrian way.

@robjohnson3095 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah but... the thing is, Hawkeye must love his bow dearly, right? So, imagine that fight on the cliffside, but mr useless manages to say "wait wait I love my bow more than you!" and then when they're back at the top of the cliff, she says "this better work, because I'm so angry at you right now, I WANT to kill you." Then, after he throws the bow, he screams, clutches his head, and says "Oh shit, I don't remember how to use a bow anymore!" R(etire)IP mr useless.

@TimilehinOlaokun 2 жыл бұрын

0:57 you're becoming explicit in your pretentiousness. If this keeps up you kigh5 have to change your name

@AlphaEarth 2 жыл бұрын

This video essay was more enjoyable and satisfying than the movie. Still don't know who Ivan is, or what really happened in Budapest. Worse still - no adequate 'goodbye' for the fans for a much beloved character. Disney only gave the go-ahead for this movie, after 10 long years, for one purpose only - to sell Phase 4 on Disney +.

@edwardhtvonpeladhen7677 2 жыл бұрын

Hello, there, random randy here. This video got recommended to me by the mighty algorithm after I watched your Invincible video, which I liked, It had an interesting take, you didn´t talk much about why Amber absolutely sucks but oh well. This video was a bit of a letdown, though. I get that your channel is called what is called and that you have your audience that enjoys your content and you give them what they like but it was disappointing seeing you using all the cliched (trappings?) of the video essay genre: The sappy piano music; the soft, somewhat monotone delivery (You don´t talk like that, c´mon); the kinda pretentious lines that don´t really add much, (Again, is the channel name, I get it) the out of context editing of clips and the general focus on "Feeling" which would be fine and dandy, like I say is part of the genre, but in your introduction, you said "... examining storytelling patterns..." and "way more clinical, way less personal"; It wasn´t really like that. It wasn´t all that focus on the socialization angle you chose to use as a frame, either. In contrast to your invincible video which was well supported with clips and arguments. Apologies if this sounds like I'm nagging you, is not at all my intention, just sharing my thoughts. I just subscribe to the EFAP school of media analysis, that's all. Anyway, carry on doing what you enjoy and have a great day.

@mattgilbert7347 2 жыл бұрын

Spoiler: his essays have nothing to do with MCU. It's stealth sociology... that's not particularly stealthy. Therefore, I can dislike the "film" and like the essay.