Pressing a Rock Maple Skateboard with a Dirt Cheap DIY Mold

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3 жыл бұрын

In this video I'm doing a little experiment to see whether or not you can press a high quality deck out of veneers using the least expensive style of mold I know about. It works out pretty dang well and might just be the best beginner DIY skateboard route out there!
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@mark77woody Жыл бұрын

This is why I like KZfaq, someone willing to share useful information. I was planning on using this technique using 3 ply sheets, but looking at this I'm going for veneers instead. I think in theory the veneers will shape better than using 3 ply as the press isn't fighting an already preformed sheet. Good work.

@Jacob_Spang 4 ай бұрын

Sir, I am a laser engineer and you would love to see what I have done with skateboards. It's fun to have half million dollar machines at your disposal. Loved the content...

@Lengsel7 Жыл бұрын

Really great, inspiring work. Came out so professional.

@fuckmyego 3 жыл бұрын

Didn't expect this to work, honestly. I'm impressed. You did a great job.

@CodyKhaoz 3 жыл бұрын

This is sick, I’m definitely going to try an implement a few of these ideas into my next press

@danielleclemente7979 2 жыл бұрын

I’m going to make a skateboard for my friend, and this has been the best video I’ve seen for the mold and press phase. I like it

@marc-antoinelacroix6414 Жыл бұрын

Hey Chris I’ve been using this way of pressing for 3 deck already and it’s working great! I wanted to mark the fact that it is because of you that I’m diving in on crafting my own board!!! 🥳 and so far I’m loving this! All your videos are really cool and helpfull! Keep going! You are the best!

@steveng8251 2 жыл бұрын

Love the press, love the shape, love the concave!!

@GoosePlaysGuitar 4 ай бұрын

KZfaq is made for this kind of great content!! Well done dude!

@sennabullet 2 жыл бұрын

great series of videos with an incredible wealth of information. thank you so much for making and sharing.

@GoodRoads 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks dude! Get out there and make yourself some boards!

@JPfingerskater 2 жыл бұрын

wow i havent attemped to make a deck since my high school days back in 2009. I remember making the mold was the hardest part but this is incredible. I have to try this some day

@1969tross Жыл бұрын

Pretty rad man!!!! I have a friend who shapes custom decks and there is nothing like having your own shape for how yoh ride!

@TimoBirnschein 2 жыл бұрын

This is extremely impressive! I love how you work man, I can totally relate! I think your channel should get more attention! Keep on going and it will grow. The quality of the content is very high and extremely educational!

@GoodRoads 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks dude! I appreciate that

@ostias Жыл бұрын

congrats dude. love it ! keep it coming !

@181Xplor 2 жыл бұрын

This is exactly what ive been trying to find so I can make it ! Thank you !

@GoodRoads 2 жыл бұрын

Dude, that's why I make these videos. love to hear it and good luck with your builds!

@AtrioZEF 3 жыл бұрын

Always give us awesome content! love to see versus video between machine press deck compared with Hi tech foam mold 😆 like how the deck sound, flex hardness etc

@GoodRoads 3 жыл бұрын

Some comparative stuff like that would definitely be cool to do

@CovTown 2 жыл бұрын

Your work is amazing thank you so much for sharing

@againstthegrain147 11 ай бұрын

Just use what you got! Best advice ever!

@literally_thawda 3 жыл бұрын

I also wanna made one like that,love your works🥰

@beau5316 2 жыл бұрын

Totally dig this. Very cool. I skate alot and am teaching my daughter as well. Would be awesome to get into a money saving project to support our fun. 🤘👍

@cornelyc 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome. Thank you for posting this

@AdventuresInSkateboarding 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome, nice work and great walkthrough. I tried some boards with wider wheelbase. Loved it for some things but definitely took away some pop. But I like a good shaped board. Very cool. Stay Rad Sir.

@GoodRoads 3 жыл бұрын

My pop isn't really developed enough for me to notice if it gets affected, at this point if it makes me feel more stable on the landings I'm all for it. That'll help my comfort level and open some doors for me

@davidbuchan2224 Жыл бұрын

I don't skateboard... not even sure why I watched this - glad i did... that clamp is genius. Could be great for forming chair backs and bases... I guess I should say something like... sick dude? Thank you.

@peterk3574 2 жыл бұрын

Very very inspiring stuff.

@TheKevdarling 2 жыл бұрын

I done mine after I watched this video, the results were amazing, using other kind of wood here in south america and epoxy wood resin but with the same results!

@fernando1sierra Жыл бұрын

Hola Kevin, qué tipo de madera usaste? Estoy en Colombia y tengo pensado hacer algunos decks.

@ronalddebeer629 2 жыл бұрын

Awesum idea!! Decks are getting way too expensive!!,ill test out the boards for you bro!!! Haha great work

@darrenbeadman2322 Жыл бұрын

Thats Amazing! Good Job

@TaylorAlexander 2 жыл бұрын

Great video! I have been wondering if 3D printed forms would work, and if foam works 3D printing totally will! EDIT: ooh I see your other videos now. I even have a large format printer!

@brentmarks_diy 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome video!!!!!

@ramrunsfast 3 жыл бұрын

The board turned out awesome Chris. Hopefully you'll continue to do more skateboard decks and incorporating different materials. Maybe the next board can be a symmetrical board which has the same size nose and tail. Wheelbase wise for stability 15 inches seems to be great for riding bowls.

@GoodRoads 3 жыл бұрын

The nose and tail on this one are actually the same size, just different shapes. I can definitely do a symmetrical deck next time I visit this style board though. The wheelbase on this one is 15.75 so it does seem like right around 15 is the sweet spot Edit: I lied, I just measured and the nose is shorter

@MG-vo7is 3 жыл бұрын

Nice art! Hoping I can have a space to build a deck.

@dimgv465 2 жыл бұрын

this is so good

@hendrik6505 2 жыл бұрын

Very good! Great!

@santofaria6486 Жыл бұрын

nice, looks like a good pool deck.

@labelricky 2 жыл бұрын

Thank u for yours video, i already make my 3 diy deck. 😁😁😁

@bumstudios8817 3 жыл бұрын

The longer wheelbase helps, if you have a deck like this where there is basically one front you could even move the front truck back a bit or back to the original placement while leaving the back truck back giving you a little larger wheel base but taking the weight off the front to help with ollies

@bumstudios8817 3 жыл бұрын

Would take a little getting used to if you are used to skating popsicles depending on riding style.

@GoodRoads 3 жыл бұрын

That would definitely be an easy way to find the right wheelbase for me. Honestly, I don't really feel like I mind the extra weight. I think compared to a 15lbs mountainboard it all feel light, hahaha!

@mihazajc 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome!

@tobyhicks7858 3 жыл бұрын

You are a genius

@jeppekoetzier3751 3 жыл бұрын

Hey man I'm loving the videos! I was just wondering if it's possible to vacuum press a board using your 3d printed mold, as oppose to a foam one. Keep up the great work!

@GoodRoads 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that should work

@NeilHesterSkateboarding 3 жыл бұрын

Very cool 👍🏻

@TboneTenEighties 2 жыл бұрын

This is awesome! Something i would definitely do if i had your set up with tools and space. Stay Rad

@cubeboarder7261 2 жыл бұрын

imma save up to try this one day.

@maxfathi596 2 жыл бұрын

Woodworker here, when using the table saw set the blade height for each material thickness with the top of the teeth sticking above the material 1/4 to 1/2 inch. Less blade above the table means more space to move your hands around and overall safer. 2nd tip is don’t be scared to move your hands closer to the blade when pushing material through. Having your hands close to the fence when pushing creates a rotating motion with the blade and pulls the material away from the fence and towards the back of the blade. At the very least it gives you a bad quality cut and burn marks, but at most that is what causes kickback and I’ve seen it happen kicking full sheets of plywood across shops. Try to have your hand halfway between the fence and the blade and use your hand to give a slight rotating motion to the right. It helps keep the workpiece along the fence through the entire cut. As always maintain full control and only do what you are comfortable with. Otherwise great video and ideas I’ll be making a couple boards soon!

@heavyweather 11 ай бұрын

Should have a riving knife and a hood including dust extraction.

@czuo Жыл бұрын

impressive!

@teodormajewski3566 10 ай бұрын

Pro tip: you don't need to glue all vanires at one squish. you could add one at a time, then your homemade clamps got immense force on each layer. Downside is that you must clamp it more times and wait each time, but for your own prototype deck you could wait couple of days.

@GoodRoads 10 ай бұрын

Gluing fewer sheets at the same time can be really beneficial for steep curves

@teodormajewski3566 10 ай бұрын

@@GoodRoads Yeah, I didn't make any skateboard deck yet, but I'm making things and know this method. I want to make huge surfskate deck like "whaleshark whitetail", with aggresive curves. And I want to make it from an OAK VANIRES, because near my location there is a great producer of high quality oak vanires, they got ONLY OAK, but the best ones. What do you think about the oak deck? It will be heavier of course, but in surfskate it is normal to have heavier board... Also oak is harder, so I want to make it in this layer method. The KEY here is to maitain already glued layers in the same position in mold at all gluying cycles, so I want to glue sacraficial corners of deck TO THE FORM in first cycle and add a layer at the time to this fixed deck. Also, there is that thing with almost all wood glues, when you apply them on the wood they tend to unstick from the wood if you wait too long and move them side to side, so less layers can help with that thing.

@janseger1693 Жыл бұрын

Wow. impressive. You made it look easy. just curious. what size did you end up with? I got a large shoes so wider boards feels so much better for a guy my size.Now days boards are so narrow.

@stuartbrown3229 3 жыл бұрын

Cool shape

@Part_of_the_land Жыл бұрын

Супер идея! Благодарю! Мужик, ты самый крутой мастер из тех что я видел! Желаю Удачи!

@francotol77 Ай бұрын

very simple thank

@bitlinus 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Chris, first let me say thanks for all your cool Videos. You really made me want to shape a first board myself. Could you tell me if poplar wood is a good / an OK choice for a longboard? Currently 4mm poplar plywood is the only wood I can get for my project. The goal is a "simple" longboard with a slight rocker. It also would be great if you could make a video about the different materials/woods used in deck building. Thanks again!

@GoodRoads 3 жыл бұрын

If all the plys in the plywood are poplar it should actually work okay. It might break a bit faster than a birch or maple board but it should be strong enough to ride, the softwood plywoods just don't have the same strength. I meant to do a materials series a while ago but it slipped my mind, thanks for the reminder!

@bitlinus 3 жыл бұрын

@@GoodRoads Thanks for the reply! That's fine then for my first board. I don't expect it to turn out great or last forever :) One other questions. Do you think it would be possible to press a drop down board with 4 layers of 3mm (0.12") poplar wood or should I rather just try some simple rocker?

@GoodRoads 3 жыл бұрын

Pressing a drop deck this way would be super difficult, I would err on the side of starting with something more simple. If you wanted you could press some mellow kicktails into your board and then make yourself some wedges to de-wedge the trucks back to flat. You could get a pretty decent drop deck effect that way without having to worry as much about clamping pressure and the wood bending aggressively

@bitlinus 3 жыл бұрын

@@GoodRoads Thanks again. OK I was kind of suspecting this but hey good thing I asked. Interesting Idea with the wedges. I will think about it.

@carlosreira2189 2 жыл бұрын

Truly that shouldn't have worked. Amazing property there in noncompressible foam. It's pretty minimal clamping pressure, so I guess that proves 30 ton presses are overkill. To be fair, they press like 10 at a time. Good job, good experiment, thanks!

@slimjim7402 Жыл бұрын

you need to bring your back foot up on the ollies to make them higher

@guybartlett9587 8 ай бұрын

Subbed

@beatupthattheory4641 11 ай бұрын

Awesome content as always brother! i wonder if you can help me out with the pocket`s angel. Blessings!

@GoodRoads 10 ай бұрын

A lot of that comes down to preference but kicktail angles are typically between 15-20 degrees

@Thedude897 9 ай бұрын

Ill do what I do best and pay the rest. Cool video

@MileZeroFilms 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Chris, that's for showing us how you make a deck with a foam mold and simple press. Quick question: How do you determine how tightly to screw down the press? Is it a matter of eyeballing the veneers and tightening to eliminate any visible gaps...and to see see some glue pressed out? Or is there a more precise method? Thanks again!

@GoodRoads 2 жыл бұрын

With a press like this? As tight as possible. As long as the foam you're using is dense enough you won't crush the mold and with this setup more pressure is better

@MileZeroFilms 2 жыл бұрын

@@GoodRoads thanks, makes sense. Keep making rad decks, supplies and videos!

@luvsweetsuga2232 2 жыл бұрын

Hello, can I have the measurements for this particular mold please? Especially since it’s longer than a typical skateboard… thank you 😊

@karuzo.. Жыл бұрын

I really liked the video but I wanted to know the name of the material you used

@mahmoudmajdi5045 2 жыл бұрын

Hello sir ♥️ I have been following you for a long time and your work is great ♥️ I want to make a skeet board myself and I have everything I need but I want you to give me the marks and sizes that I will plan based on the foam

@GoodRoads 2 жыл бұрын

I don't have a template or anything to share but that's a really interesting idea. Definitely something i could tackle at some point, I'll add it to the to do list. In the meantime maybe take a look at sk8cad.com/ from Beau over at Open Source Skateboards, I think you can print templates from his tool? Not 100% sure on that though

@scottmccrimmon1 2 жыл бұрын

Wow

@matthewtagoy6166 2 жыл бұрын

Are your ply's all maple? Or do you have some other wood mixed in? Great video btw

@GoodRoads 2 жыл бұрын

This deck is an all maple build, but there's no reason this wouldn't work with birch or bamboo

@boneless4799 3 жыл бұрын

Can you please provide a link to but some maple? I'm going crazy finding some in italy, so i might aswell buy some in the us and pay for the shipping! Thank you, great content!

@GoodRoads 3 жыл бұрын

Does Roarockit's european distributor work for where you're at? www.roarockit.eu/

@boneless4799 3 жыл бұрын

@@GoodRoads It does!!! thank you so much, i was trying to find some for weeks, you're opening a whole new world for me man, for real hahaha, keep it up!

@MrOreo123 3 жыл бұрын

Do you think you'll be able to regain some accuracy in the mold with thinner EVA foam? I've seen Yaya Han branded sheets at Joann's in 24" x 40" sizes in 2 mm and 5 mm thicknesses.

@GoodRoads 3 жыл бұрын

You'd probably have to be a little more careful with your mold construction but it's definitely worth a shot!

@brenthawkins204 3 жыл бұрын

To clarify its eva foam not rubber flooring. Also how thick ? Maybe 3/8" to 1/2"?

@aydenreed1580 Жыл бұрын

I want one

@louisevad6091 9 күн бұрын

Nothing like a blade way up in the air

@ChazMations Жыл бұрын

How thick was the foam you got?

@joemccarthy7699 8 ай бұрын

Does anyone know what that blue stuff was

@ekrnoob769 4 ай бұрын

What is the exact name of the foam for the mold and the rubber mat?:)

@MetalBomb269 Жыл бұрын

Could you use a thinner sheet of rubber and more weight for even better accuracy 🤔

@hendrik6505 2 жыл бұрын

Have you ever tried…inserting fiberglass sheets in between for flex? Or something similar? Ist am super curious about that. Best regards from Germany.

@GoodRoads 2 жыл бұрын

I've done a couple composite builds here on the channel, though I guess I haven't really done a combination of a veneer layup and glass/resin. I've built decks like that in the past, it would be fun to do it again and worth showcasing I think

@hendrik6505 2 жыл бұрын

@@GoodRoads i would love to see that.

@UncleJuansBand Жыл бұрын

But how well does it skate to somebody who, no offense, actually shreds. Also, how long do the boards last this way?

@SethJ-2525 3 жыл бұрын

Nice video! I’m thinking about doing a snowboard build in the near future. Do you have any tips? - Thanks!

@GoodRoads 3 жыл бұрын

Love to hear it! I think the best piece of advice I can give is go slow, be patient, and really pay attention to the details. The better you can plan everything out the better chance you'll have of getting s successful press. Oh, and don't do what I did with my resin the first time around, small batches and shallow containers!

@SethJ-2525 3 жыл бұрын

@@GoodRoads Will do, thanks!

@GoodRoads 3 жыл бұрын

I thought of something else: when I clamped my molds together to press the decks I didn't use spars. I would definitely use them if I tried that method again. My base wound up with an edge to edge curve and spreading the clamping force out from the sides of the mold would help get the base flatter

@SethJ-2525 3 жыл бұрын

@@GoodRoads Thanks, I will keep that in mind!

@DesignCutters 2 жыл бұрын

I could not hear where you got the wood?

@josetoral1247 2 жыл бұрын

Ive been searching everywhere for days to try and find a foam brick like that and i cant. Thing you can point me ina direction?

@Boc3phu5 Жыл бұрын

Did you ever find the foam brick?

@joemccarthy7699 7 ай бұрын

Did you find it in the end

@169robertol Ай бұрын

It’s 2” insulation foam, can find at home depot or any store like that

@flatblackkustoms 3 жыл бұрын

What is the length of the board & what is the wheel base? I made a 36" deck w/ a 19" wheel base. If you ride ramp or park at all, this length of board w/that WB, you can lock in a lot of tricks because of the WB. Front & backside smith's are so much easier. I'm getting older so the longer 36" deck is real stable.

@flatblackkustoms 3 жыл бұрын

It is the brown deck that I showed you on your Instagram comment page.

@GoodRoads 3 жыл бұрын

The deck is 33" with a 15.75" wheelbase. I've got a Rayne deck with similar dimensions to the one you built, it's really good for hardwheel sliding but it's a bit of a tank because of the construction: bamboo and glass. It would be interesting to try a deck that size with a more standard / lighter build

@nameless1820 2 жыл бұрын

So, I've stayed manty different kinds of boards. Some of the cheaper blanks I've tried are really thick and feel kind of "soggy" in the pop department. Does this method lead to those types of boards? I could hear during your ollie's a way lower pitch than your normal pro board, which makes me feel it does produce that. If it does, do you know how to press diy veneer boards and end up with the same crisp thinner result as name brand boards? Appreciate you spreading this knowledge man.

@GoodRoads 2 жыл бұрын

I think pressing your own decks, or getting decks pressed by a small shop, will almost always get you better results than mass produced stuff once you get the hang of doing a layup. I'd attribute the sound of my pop on this board to: it being a large deck with a deep concave, it being slightly thicker than standard just because I didn't sand the veneers down, and me riding softer wheels. To me the deck feels really snappy for how heavy it is, it's stiffer than some of the off-the-shelf boards I have. A stronger press will squeeze out more glue too, which will also help with the weight/stiffness

@nameless1820 2 жыл бұрын

@@GoodRoads definitely see where you're coming from. The attention to detail when you make things yourself for yourself cannot be matched at a mass production scale. I was thinking more along the lines of pressure needed. Like In factory's they use hydraulic presses with lots of force behind them. Then again they press like 9? at a time. I just imagined it getting pressed tighter at the factory than at home. Thanks tho this is highly motivating I guess I'm gonna have to take a crack at it and see if I can make myself a dream board. Thanks for replying so fast man.

@GoodRoads 2 жыл бұрын

@@nameless1820 No problem dude! I haven't built one myself yet but a lot of hobbyists and small shops use presses built around 10-20t hydraulic bottle jacks. Those guys and gals are pressing up to three or four decks at a time and it's limited more by the potlife of the glue and how long the layup takes. There's some debate around how hard you want to squeeze the veneers for the best outcome but the more glue you can squeeze out the better your seams will be and the more weight you shave off the deck. Good luck with your builds! Keep me posted!

@dougadams7384 2 жыл бұрын

Which do you think gives a better lamination, your press or the vacuum bag?

@GoodRoads 2 жыл бұрын

I prefer the spar style presses but I've had a high level of success with both methods. Once you've built up your skills designing your mold geometry and gluing up your veneers, as long as you're getting enough clamping force it all works pretty dang well. Vag bags take less work to make a mold and spar presses are a little less finicky during the clamping of the board so there are tradeoffs but both work very well.

@deaconoriginal3149 2 жыл бұрын

what do you do for finish? paint then sealer? sealer then paint? and what should i use for best results?

@GoodRoads 2 жыл бұрын

I usually dye my veneers, do a coat of finish, do my art, then add another two layers of finish

@samiteitzel7031 Жыл бұрын

How strong is the board using veneers vs something like plywood? Thanks for the awesome video.

@mikkonazarrea9283 2 жыл бұрын

Hi sir can I make a longboard using Venture marine plywood?

@GoodRoads 2 жыл бұрын

No idea! "Marine" plywood is a designation that the adhesive used to glue the plys together is waterproof, what you'd really want is a plywood where all the veneers are hardwood. Some marine plys are and some aren't, you can press a board with them either way but a board that has softwood in it won't last very long before breaking.

@noveltystylus6703 3 жыл бұрын

What mold and clamping considerations do we need for a more dramatic shape, like a drop down deck? Would something like that require a 9 ply or can you get by with 7?

@noveltystylus6703 3 жыл бұрын

Another great video, sir. 😁

@tyson_J 3 жыл бұрын

If you're just doing a 1in drop then you could probably get away with a standard setup like he showed in the video. Past that though, you might need to make the drop transition pretty gradual and get a stiffer mold material.

@GoodRoads 3 жыл бұрын

In addition to what Tyson J said you could also press the deck in multiple pressings, only doing a couple veneers at a time, and that will help you get all nine ply to curve the way you want. You're never going to be able to get a super steep drop with this kind of setup, but if you're okay with a mellower one, I'm guessing like 45 degrees max, you can definitely press yourself a nice drop deck this way. Also leave yourself a good amount of space for the wood to transition from the concave to the drops

@noveltystylus6703 3 жыл бұрын

@@tyson_J I've used styrofoam for my first board because... it's what was in my workshop at the time. I'm using a vaccum bag method. How deep do drop downs get?

@tyson_J 3 жыл бұрын

@@noveltystylus6703 I've seen 3in drops before on some boards. If you're doing a vac bag, I know roarockit has a complete drop down guide on their site where they use a bag and some additional clamps to press all the veneeers at once.

@stopmotionking49 Жыл бұрын

What hapend to the hoverborad

@colin_nick Жыл бұрын

what type of wood did you use to back the mold?

@GoodRoads Жыл бұрын

If I remember right I just used some half inch ply I had around the shop, you can use whatever as long as it's flat

@ShawnxEdge Жыл бұрын

Looks really thick and heavy

@colin_nick Жыл бұрын

where do you get your veneers from?

@GoodRoads Жыл бұрын

Usually from roarockit.com

@jacojansen1362 Жыл бұрын

What glue did you use here?

@GoodRoads Жыл бұрын

Titebond 2

@hamcheesecola 2 жыл бұрын

Your voice is very similar to Samurai Guitarist

@TimoBirnschein 2 жыл бұрын

Why don't you make a large foam cutter first? You have all the necessary tools to build that. That should make cutting the foam a lot easier

@GoodRoads 2 жыл бұрын

I actually have a hotwire cutter that would have made quick work of this but I was intentionally make the most dirty, accessible mold I could manage to illustrate the point that it really doesn't have to be perfect or expensive to work well