Gooseworx and Michael Kovach Respond to Jax Hate Drama

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Ай бұрын

So since weve just gotten episode 2 of the amazing digital circus there's been a lot of mixed feedback surrounding the episode. For the most part it's been pretty positive but there was quite alot of fuss kicked up around one character in particular, Jax. This was particularly surprising as I personally thought gooseworx and glitch had been pretty upfront in presenting his personality in the pilot but regardless still ended up causing a fuss. I'm gonna go through and give a summary of the situation then give my thoughts at the end.
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@diamond9030
@diamond9030 Ай бұрын
Jax: *Acts mean in episode 1* Fans: I love him Jax: *Acts mean in episode 2* Fans: BOO, GET OFF THE STAGE
@angillusions
@angillusions Ай бұрын
FR
@mikailorsborn5865
@mikailorsborn5865 Ай бұрын
Real
@patrickc1193
@patrickc1193 Ай бұрын
Tbh I hate him in both episodes.
@vitalost9935
@vitalost9935 Ай бұрын
Funny. There were still people who hated him for that, i think people just plain don't get it.
@nathanburks5683
@nathanburks5683 Ай бұрын
Ugh, Susan...
@MarxistMomentum
@MarxistMomentum Ай бұрын
Why are these people just now starting to hate Jax? I already knew Jax was a horrible person, so I wasn't surprised when he was so much worse in episode 2. It's like people had an idealized image of the "hot bad boy, Jax" in their mind, and then when Jax started to legitimately be a real bad boy and not just a typical jerk then their illusion was shattered.
@toastysweaters5692
@toastysweaters5692 Ай бұрын
Thank you! From the moment I saw this man pop up on screen, I knew people would automatically try to defend his ass just because he’s ‘hot’. I can’t wait to see how much Jax’s antagonism will unfold later in the series
@BeckyNosferatu
@BeckyNosferatu Ай бұрын
Yep, I think this is the cause, too. I hated Jax as a prick (But loved that they had a REAL asshole character) from the pilot. my wife and I actually had a discussion that these fans who think he's just a 'bad boi' are going to really get a wake up call from the start of the series, aren't they? Sure enough, they did.
@mite3959
@mite3959 Ай бұрын
fr, the first interaction we got from him is him tripping ragatha for no reason, idk what people expected
@toontastic6408
@toontastic6408 Ай бұрын
People may have thought, me included, he would be more mischievous, than downright. cruel.
@CastIronCookie
@CastIronCookie Ай бұрын
I remember hating him in the pilot because he was so mean but because so much time passed and I wasn't really consuming tadc content in that time so I kinda just forgot how much I hated him and how mean he actually was. Then this episode came out and I was like "omg he's so mean I despise him what an asshole" XD
@Bluefire-zz7qi
@Bluefire-zz7qi 29 күн бұрын
I can't believe so many people missed one of the clearest points of the show since the beginning. That Jax is an insane prick. I mean come on even in the pilot he steals the keys to the characters rooms, puts a centipede in ragatha's room (which is said to be one of her biggest fears), and pushes gangle next to an escalator. he was rude from the beginning.
@metalhand333
@metalhand333 24 күн бұрын
If he pushed Gangle ON the escalator, Every 5 year-old’s worst escalator nightmares would come true.
@mr.sinister5584
@mr.sinister5584 23 күн бұрын
Rude from the beginning but all of those are done in a funny way. What he does in episode 2 really isnt. And if the whole point of the character is to be a prick and nothing else, who the fuck is gonna enjoy that. Its not entertaining
@the8626
@the8626 23 күн бұрын
tbh the problem with that first episode characterization is that 2 out of the three [the centipedes and the stealing of the keys] are mostly told to the viewer and not shown. if jax had done more vile shit to show his character off outside of saying that he did something mean and doing something kind of dickish the fanbase would have probably caught on sooner. really, its just a small misstep in his episode 1 characterization though, and episode 2 definitely was an improvement.
@LaserZman
@LaserZman 20 күн бұрын
It is funny, and I'm tired of pretending its not. ​@@mr.sinister5584
@my.melody.gamingg
@my.melody.gamingg 20 күн бұрын
THIS BUT W ALASTOR FROM HH
@mrsugar1234
@mrsugar1234 29 күн бұрын
Jax trolled his own fandom just like how he did with the circus members
@anxia-tea5846
@anxia-tea5846 Ай бұрын
people realizing he’s not the “hot bully” type character and is actually just mentally unwell and edgy
@shewasthere.
@shewasthere. Ай бұрын
He's still hot though 🤠
@theratifier7669
@theratifier7669 Ай бұрын
@@shewasthere. You need the Lord my guy/girl. YEESH.
@BombBird11
@BombBird11 29 күн бұрын
@@shewasthere. *_Said the Tumblr girl_*
@anxia-tea5846
@anxia-tea5846 29 күн бұрын
@@shewasthere. fair enough
@DaBwownGodthiwa
@DaBwownGodthiwa 29 күн бұрын
he's an evil fallout protag
@ayylmaotv
@ayylmaotv Ай бұрын
I recall Goose tweeted he was going to do something unforgivable later in the season so it's gonna be interesting to see how much worse he can get
@Dreamsarefortheweak
@Dreamsarefortheweak Ай бұрын
Yeah
@axolotl_deity
@axolotl_deity Ай бұрын
hey ayy lmao :,D
@DorothyEditing
@DorothyEditing Ай бұрын
Really? I wonder what it will be. The others will surely be very angry. If someone get abstracted because of him, it will be terrible.
@Wojtek_Ch
@Wojtek_Ch Ай бұрын
Wasn't Goose a gal?
@Twigs_20
@Twigs_20 Ай бұрын
yeah he's def getting someone abstracted
@metl6929
@metl6929 29 күн бұрын
Jax is supremely entertaining, so he's a great character in my book. He's not a *good* character, but this is a show about people under stress and some people become assholes when they're stressed out. It makes sense for Jax to be this way.
@OmegaChase1002
@OmegaChase1002 Ай бұрын
remember, kids. never listen to the internets opinions on anything ever. they're wrong 90% of the time.
@Yipper64
@Yipper64 24 күн бұрын
Isnt this an opinion on the internet?
@OmegaChase1002
@OmegaChase1002 24 күн бұрын
@@Yipper64 oh this isnt an opinion. Its a fact.
@seben9760
@seben9760 19 күн бұрын
90% is generous
@user-li2yv5je5e
@user-li2yv5je5e 17 күн бұрын
The 10% that are right will change their opinion in a week or two.
@nemesis8490
@nemesis8490 Ай бұрын
I love how she’s not planning on changing the character. I wanna see him exactly how she intended him to be.
@kairi4640
@kairi4640 Ай бұрын
Ikr? Too many shows change character personalities etc, just to please the audience.
@iamcat1797
@iamcat1797 Ай бұрын
Couldn’t agree more, like I love my mean characters against from the fandom as much as the next person but I don’t want it to be canon. I’m a weirdo not a crazy person.
@laraprisma6381
@laraprisma6381 Ай бұрын
Same! Let Jex be an asshole as long as she wants! I love him being this bad boy who loves chaos and destruction! If he's going to change, let it be because of character development, and not because the fans don't like that he's an asshole! I love Jex as an asshole, so as a fan, I'm happy with how he's written!
@bungiecrimes7247
@bungiecrimes7247 Ай бұрын
Her waffling tweets say otherwise.
@homerman76
@homerman76 28 күн бұрын
Yeah, I don't get why people felt like they were blindsided with his character or hate the fact that he's just simply a jerk, it's not like the series is condoning his actions, in fact, he gets hit with karma repeatedly. I love me a good mean character because it's fun watching karma bite them in the butt, it's only when they get to be mean spirited with almost zero repercussions that I take issue, but so far he's just a fun gag character like the likes of Bugs Bunny or Daffy Duck
@thelordoflemonz
@thelordoflemonz Ай бұрын
So, my thoughts on it are. The reason he seemed like less of a dick in the first episode was because, as he said "he just wants to see funny things happen to people". Since Kaufmo was causing havoc, Jax just had to sit back and watch the show. This made him come across as more reasonable and laid back since he didn't have to do anything. In the Second episode, he was actively trying to cause chaos again, but it kept backfiring on him, and since he was being denied the chaos he enjoys, he was getting angry, like a spoiled child who doesn't get his way. It seems, to me at least, Jax is taking full advantage of being in a world where he can indulge in destructive behavior without consequence. Most likely as a way to distance himself from the harsh reality of his current situation.
@SpaceAceGrey
@SpaceAceGrey Ай бұрын
he almost reminds me of a murderhobo in tabletop games with his behavior
@BeckyNosferatu
@BeckyNosferatu Ай бұрын
Jax is a troll, plain and simple. He doesn't care if people get hurt. He's just there for the reason he can be a dick.
@adarhecker9368
@adarhecker9368 Ай бұрын
Jevil, basically. Only, a lot tamer.
@eemsaccount
@eemsaccount Ай бұрын
Maybe Kaufmo's death really got to him 😢
@theinsanegamer1024
@theinsanegamer1024 Ай бұрын
Yeah. In the first episode he was a dick, doing things for the hell of it. But he wasn't actively hostile for the most part. He'd use someone's arm as a back scratcher, roll his eyes and be sarcastic, shove someone down a hole that they were already intending to go down, a complete dick no doubt, but one that felt more like "Big red button that says 'Don't Press', why, you shouldn't have!". But in the second episode he felt more hostile and aggressive with his actions. More Murder Hobo asshole than mischievous instigator. So, yeah, he came across as a lot more childish about the lack of chaos and shenanigans. I don't think his character has "shifted", but it definitely is more clear what he's like.
@saberwolf181alpha6
@saberwolf181alpha6 28 күн бұрын
“I will make hat from you little bunny” -Heavy
@generalowen4344
@generalowen4344 29 күн бұрын
People are weird. They don’t need to hate Jax because he’s an asshole, but at least realize that he IS an asshole. It’s okay to like assholes it has been done since forever.
@cassiushellsin6243
@cassiushellsin6243 Ай бұрын
If he wasn’t an asshole, then his character development will not hit as hard later on. It’s almost like it’s a FUCKING CHARACTER ARC.
@SeinIshamiado
@SeinIshamiado Ай бұрын
RIGHT!!!! 🙄
@SJ_Killingspree
@SJ_Killingspree Ай бұрын
Exactly!
@WaffleVee
@WaffleVee Ай бұрын
Cope blud 😂
@iaminsideyourwalls2021
@iaminsideyourwalls2021 Ай бұрын
​@@WaffleVeeLook at Mr "Cope harder" guy over here. Thinking they're funny.
@greentoesbstatus4325
@greentoesbstatus4325 Ай бұрын
​@@iaminsideyourwalls2021 Facts.
@CountShaman
@CountShaman Ай бұрын
Jax in episode 1 : Steals bedroom keys, leaves Ragatha and Pomni for dead, assaults Gangle and Kinger. Fans : What a cool guy Jax in Episode 2 : Hurts Pomni, insults Ragatha and Gangle, leaves Candy Kingdom for dead. Fans : What a not cool guy Anyways, I have a theory that Jax would take notice of Pomni's existentialism and use it to have her spill the beans on more NPCs. I doubt he's gonna stop at just violent murder.
@AD_YTChannel
@AD_YTChannel 29 күн бұрын
Jax did so much worse in ep 1 so like? Bro? Whats with the hate?
@Jaredragon
@Jaredragon 29 күн бұрын
​@@AD_YTChannel Jax in episode 1 is someone I could argue was good deep down (he's not, it's just a misinterpretation based on general good faith in humanity) when Gangle asks about kaufmo, Jax says "he's doing great" which is a lie that COULD be interpreted as Jax protecting Gangles feelings (it's not)... Jax leaving ragatha and Pomni for dead... Pomni leaves Ragatha for dead... scared people do selfish things... Jax COULD be interpreted as good (he is not)... as for Jax having keys to everyone's room and putting centipedes in Ragatha's bed, as Jax said "you never know till its too late" He COULD have been just lying about the centipedes, it's not nice but its not as vile as actually putting centipedes in there. and having keys could be Jax's way of protecting his fellow circus crew from any invaders... (Again... this is not the case... but it could have been if that's what the creator wanted)
@homerman76
@homerman76 28 күн бұрын
@@Jaredragon I mean, there is justification for his behavior in episode 2 since he just views this all as a video game, and he's not wrong, since, once the adventure ends, the npcs no longer matter (as seen with Caine snapping away GummiGoo.) The fact that people view Jax as some sort of horrible person for wanting to play the game his way just shows that people are taking things way too seriously, especially since the show makes a case of making karma bite Jax in the butt.
@Jaredragon
@Jaredragon 28 күн бұрын
@@homerman76 I would argue episode 2 jax is a terrible person because of the way he treats gangle... gangle is not having fun and it's all jaxs fault... in ep 1 I could argue most of his mistreatment of gangle was harmless shoving (it's still not nice) but in episode 2, jax threatens to expose one of gangles secrets which jax has no right to do. And on top of that he shouts at her and has a gun to her head (I know the gun probably wouldn't do any damage but he's still being intimidating with it) plus gangle didn't volunteer to drive... jax made her... in episode 1 jax kinda saved her (and kinger) from abstracted kaufmo (until kaufmo wound up in the same place as them anyway but jax didn't know that would happen)
@uboa8060
@uboa8060 27 күн бұрын
​@@Jaredragon I liked him even more in episode 2. People don't seem to like violent, hateful characters for some reason, even though they can be great.
@Vannabee13
@Vannabee13 29 күн бұрын
I think alot people have gotten used to the idea of the asshole character getting retooled to be a more sympathetic character as a series develops when they become popular. For example Stolas from HB was completely deplorable in the original pilot, but the fandom still latched onto him and the Stolitz ship, and what we got in the series proper was way closer to the fandom version than the original pilot, whether that was by design or coincidence, I cant say. But I'm sure it gives some fans the impression that they can shape their comfort character into what they want them to be and the creator's will pick up on it and cater to it.
@OogaBooga69
@OogaBooga69 Ай бұрын
He literally pushed and broke the mask of the one ribbon character in the pilot, wtf did they expect from him 💀
@BlingStarStudios
@BlingStarStudios Ай бұрын
Why can’t people just realize that fictional characters are fictional?
@Wojtek_Ch
@Wojtek_Ch Ай бұрын
because people are Rose Earth Tooth Ace Rice Door East Drill
@Danielrv2fn
@Danielrv2fn Ай бұрын
@@Wojtek_Ch exactly
@random-person-online-16
@random-person-online-16 Ай бұрын
Fr honestly
@robotx9285
@robotx9285 Ай бұрын
​@Wojtek_Ch Agreed, I seriously cannot fathom how immature you gotta be inorder to not tell an actor apart from their character.
@artistanthony1007
@artistanthony1007 Ай бұрын
Because that's what many are and you can't change that.
@LooniGamer
@LooniGamer Ай бұрын
I honestly love how *evil* Jax is. Mostly happy he isn't the streotypical cool bad boy that secretly cares deeply about everyone. He does seem to care for *some* people *just a bit* as seen *before* the funeral, but definitely less than what a lot of people expected.
@Yipper64
@Yipper64 24 күн бұрын
Its weirdly more 3 dimensional than just going the tropey route. Like he is genuinely evil, but like deep down he does have a heart. Somewhere. Not much of one but its there.
@sophieamandaleitontoomey9343
@sophieamandaleitontoomey9343 23 күн бұрын
Same. I don’t understand why people are so mad that this character is a jackass when that is why he is so memorable.
@spacey1447
@spacey1447 23 күн бұрын
​@@Yipper64 I agree! He became much more interesting.
@revaslatts4301
@revaslatts4301 23 күн бұрын
​@@Yipper64 I couldn't have said it better myself.
@Helmic
@Helmic 22 күн бұрын
He's the Cartman of the group, yeah. I think part of the issue is shipping - he's one of two male main cast members that were even vaguely plausible to ship Pomni with, Kinger's too weird, so Jax is then expected to be ultimately a sympathetic good guy underneath it all. And so when he's actually, legitimately just an asshole, possibly someone who _needs_ to be an asshole or else he abstracts, that shatters that ship and people get really upset. Granted, I don't particularly enjoy this kind of character unless they're an actual antagonist, it makes me wonder why anyone tolerates their presence and question whether anyone else is at all a decent person for not stopping them, but in this case because they're all trapped in the Circus against their will it's a lot easier to explain it as them simply not having much of a choice but to try to get along with one of the few other people they have regular conact with. Jax can be this much of a prick because everyone _has_ to put up with him, they can't leave him, and if he does eventually get a more sympathetic portrayal at some point it'll likely be from him realizing that's the situation he's in and that he doesn't actually have any friends.
@Ch3rr1_B3rri
@Ch3rr1_B3rri 29 күн бұрын
I feel like people don't understand that having a character thats a complete asshole is OKAY. Especially for shows or any public media, because it gives a lot more conflict to the story. There's nothing wrong with having a character like Jax because at the core of it all, he isn't real, and he isn't the creator.
@humourlessjester3584
@humourlessjester3584 28 күн бұрын
I think the biggest reason why they dislike jax now but liked him in the start is honestly just his screentime and impact of his jokes. There's a rule in comedy where your joke can be as offensive as you want so long as it's equally as funny as it is offensive. Subjective rule, I know, but I believe this rule was at play here. Jax's screen presence and comedic relief just doesn't justify his offensiveness this episode. So his offensiveness comes off as grating because that's all that we see, we no longer see him as this charismatic trickster cuz he doesn't have much opportunities to show that here so we only see his mean side.
@Yipper64
@Yipper64 24 күн бұрын
I think this explains it exactly. Though as you said it is subjective. Upon an initial watch I was offput but more that im thinking about it he was acting in character. Like I can see how. I mean, there's a reason people thought Gooseworx changed his character intentionally, before that theory was shut down. You cant deny it feels that way for a lot of people even if obviously that's not reality, and I think this is why. He just wasnt quite as funny as he could have been. Some jokes landed, like "now ill have to tell Ragatha about the thing" and Gangle's "HUH?" reaction was just the best. But certainly not all of them.
@topcat59
@topcat59 Ай бұрын
I thought it was pretty obvious that Jax was written to be a prick that enjoys the madness of the circus.🐱
@trixfox45
@trixfox45 Ай бұрын
Honestly ,felt so too. Just an asshole who does shit for fun, only fun for him though.
@boobysr
@boobysr Ай бұрын
His entire appeal is that he's an asshole. What were people even expecting after the pilot, he's the exact same
@mastrsonic375
@mastrsonic375 Ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly
@1slayer959
@1slayer959 Ай бұрын
Media literacy seems to be dead nowadays. Literally every show gets dogpiled for it's flaws
@newdoomi
@newdoomi Ай бұрын
Me reading the last word: "meow"
@drucy.
@drucy. Ай бұрын
Jax's personnality in Ep2 is literally the same as the Ep1... ...Why are people acting like he somehow changed personnalities ?
@diduardnoob8023
@diduardnoob8023 Ай бұрын
he was chill in the pilot. just a little chill jokester. in episode 2 his whole personality was “WAHH WAHH I WANT MURDER AND GUNS AND BLOOD WAHH WAHHH”
@drucy.
@drucy. Ай бұрын
@@diduardnoob8023 "he was chill in the pilot. just a little chill jokester" In your imagination maybe. Dude was an asshole since ep1 and remained an asshole in ep2. Nothing changed.
@Badex_1313
@Badex_1313 Ай бұрын
Bro was never chill
@drucy.
@drucy. Ай бұрын
@@diduardnoob8023 "he was chill in the pilot. just a little chill jokester." In your imagination, maybe. Nope, dude was a grade S a**h_le since the beginning.
@queenmoon9330
@queenmoon9330 Ай бұрын
@@diduardnoob8023 Nah he was always the a-hole lol.
@skyenight-by8yh
@skyenight-by8yh 28 күн бұрын
Well, Gooseworx *did* say that he’s going to get worse as the series continues. Honestly, I’m intrigued to see how they build from that.
@lordforlorn5694
@lordforlorn5694 24 күн бұрын
I personally like Jax. Not because I can relate to him, but I like him as a character who stands out amongst other members of the circus
@ritzcrayons5849
@ritzcrayons5849 Ай бұрын
as someone who only watched the pilot very recently, and then watched it again directly before the second episode, I was really surprised to see people talking about how much his character changed. he's literally just like that lmao. I think they've got their fanon and canon mixed up.
@huychillin3575
@huychillin3575 26 күн бұрын
It’s not think, they have gotten the canon and fanon mixed up, and it only took one episode for that to happen. I’ve never seen Jax as the “misunderstood character” because of how he acts nonchalantly about anything that has to do with the other characters.
@huychillin3575
@huychillin3575 26 күн бұрын
I can’t see how they think he’ll change, the characters have been in the digital circus for years, if he can’t change after that much time, then I don’t think that he’s going to have character development. He might get character development, but that going to take more time, you can’t just suddenly change in one day.
@huychillin3575
@huychillin3575 26 күн бұрын
I said might because there is a very slim chance that Gooseworx would actually give Jax a character arc, because he’s suppose to be an annoying character.
@PixieoftheWood
@PixieoftheWood 25 күн бұрын
I'm confused by this, too. I didn't see any difference between his behavior in the two episodes. I've seen this in other shows with a slow release schedule too, where a character has never shown any positive characteristics, and yet fans act like the writers suddenly made them a two dimensional villain and 'ruined the character' when a new episode comes out and they continue to act how they always have.
@xryeau_1760
@xryeau_1760 25 күн бұрын
He definitely seems worse in the second episode, not that he was ever not an asshole
@LoSDockForBoats
@LoSDockForBoats Ай бұрын
The idea that media should not portray assholes is so strange to me. Even stranger is the idea that people are genuinely offended that an imaginary character is mean. It is fiction. It is not real. An asshole character is not an endorsement of asshole behavior. He exists to reveal a truth of human behavior; some people are assholes. That some people do not understand this is strange.
@cortster12
@cortster12 Ай бұрын
They likely see themselves in them, and it hurts. So they lash out.
@I_Dont_Believe_In_Salad
@I_Dont_Believe_In_Salad Ай бұрын
​@@cortster12 that's pretty much what happens
@alirinaysugata8239
@alirinaysugata8239 Ай бұрын
@@cortster12 Either that, or they have bad experiences with assholes and Jax reminds them a lot of those guys (and because he's fictional, you can't punch him in the face or something like that).
@jonathanventura9183
@jonathanventura9183 29 күн бұрын
i think it's mostly the fact the character is confident. people want karmic retribution on asshole characters but at the same time are endeared by those with confidence. it causes a split of wanting to like character for endearment and wanting to hate a character for retribution. in turn they demand an artist to make the character more postively endearing or for the character to be unendearing to the point that the story treats them with karma. like some disney villians know for their confidence are given plot retribution/karma.
@dragon0405
@dragon0405 28 күн бұрын
One thing is being an asshole, doing a mass murder genocide in the second episode is completely different. Bruh
@TheSurvivor637
@TheSurvivor637 Ай бұрын
It’s nice to have a character who is a genuine asshole. Not evil, just an asshole. Jax is a perfect example of what some people would absolutely do if they were in a world where their actions had no real consequences.
@ZorroVulpes
@ZorroVulpes Ай бұрын
Some day, maybe, people will realize that a character can do things that are objectively bad but still be entertaining because it's all fiction and nobody real is getting hurt.
@toTheWatcher
@toTheWatcher Ай бұрын
Goose literally warned us in the beginning about jax, people are so unaware these days. I honestly just wanted more gummigoo! Still loving it
@nurfgal
@nurfgal 23 күн бұрын
SAME I WANT MORE GUMMIGOO
@user-od1kh8kx5g
@user-od1kh8kx5g 23 күн бұрын
Gummigoo RIP
@sunnyd6519
@sunnyd6519 Ай бұрын
I think the simple truth, Jax didnt undergo any personality shift from episode 1-2 however! Episode 2 provided a lot more fuel and opportunities for Jax to be a prick In episode 1 thanks to Kaufmo, there was actual stakes and danger around so simply getting the hell out of dodge was the best option, followed by waiting things out till Caine got back. Buuuut in episode 2: with absolutely 0 consequences or danger around, he was more than ready to do what he does best.
@shewasthere.
@shewasthere. Ай бұрын
Exactly !
@runajain5773
@runajain5773 29 күн бұрын
Yep because they are in caine game he has freedom to express on npc and their world
@MothmanOfficialWva
@MothmanOfficialWva 27 күн бұрын
Yeah, Jax’s main drive seems to be chaos of any sort, and episode one was full of it, with Pomni showing up and Kaufmo’s abstraction, so he didn’t need to do much besides sitting back and watching. Episode 2? Well, he needs to derail the shit himself. A more active role for him.
@kaligath6616
@kaligath6616 29 күн бұрын
In other words the community is like "I WANT JAX TO BE WHAT I WANT HIM TO BE AND NOT A NATURALLY FLOWING CHARACTER !!!" sorry but i think jax being the way he is its realistic to how he is portrayed after all they are all trying to cope with being stuck in this program and each have their own way of coping. Ragitha = Optimism (make the best out of a bad situation.) Jax = Cynicism (likes the chaotic nature of everything because if hes stuck in hell might as well enjoy it.) Zooble = Apathetic (does not care much for anything.) Gangle = Imposter syndrome. (due to the masks representing this.) Kingler = Dissociative amnesia (most likely lost someone close and his brain switches off and on resulting in memory loss to cope) These are all coping mechanisms and are core to all the character im starting to think the digital circus is a mental asylum using this program on patients to get them over there psychological devices believing it would cure them but if they go too far over the deep end they abstract aka lose their mind completely. Also it gives a hint to why there characters are designed that way because the program uses the data inputted by the mental asylum staff to depict there conditions into a physical form if we look closely at each character you can see they represent each condition. A doll that is beaten up represents ragitha being too optimistic and will allow herself to be hurt so much maybe she was suffering from domestic abuse hence why she's there. A mischievous bunny rabbit being up to no good represents jax being too chaotic that he might have seriously hurt someone hence why he's there. A mismatch of shapes not being able to form something of structure represents zooble feeling lost and depressed hence why she's there. A masked person most likely suffering from multiple personality syndrome resulting in imposter syndrome hence why gangle there. A king like person most likely suffering from the lose of someone close to him battling with the idea of ending it all hence why kinglers there.
@kevinbell5674
@kevinbell5674 29 күн бұрын
I think that all of the characters already in the Circus when Pomni arrives have been broken by it in one way or another, and they're primary characteristics are a thin armor they keep around themselves as a natural defense to stay sane and prevent abstracting. Except for Kinger. He seems like a he's functionally insane, and I don't know if it's even possible for him to abstract. It would be neat to have another potential outcome for those trapped in the Circus. Either abstract like Kaufmo, or end up like Kinger.
@flameofthephoenix8395
@flameofthephoenix8395 23 күн бұрын
Personally, I'd think it be more interesting if Kinger wasn't driven mad by the Circus but was just already nuts, this makes more sense in my opinion. Otherwise, he should have abstracted when he lost his marbles, but if he had already been this way beforehand then he'd never put stress on the simulation while going insane as he'd never go insane at all, he'd already be there.
@kevinbell5674
@kevinbell5674 23 күн бұрын
@flameofthephoenix8395 They way I thought about was like when Kinger's mind cracked and broke the pieces sort of resettled on top of one another but not all the pieces. So basically, I thought of his mind as still being held together in a chaotic state with some pieces missing. It also could very well be that he was already like that before being trapped in the Circus.
@flameofthephoenix8395
@flameofthephoenix8395 23 күн бұрын
@@kevinbell5674 Hm, even if it resettled wouldn't it still cause him to abstract beforehand? I guess it depends on what conditions are required to make someone abstract.
@thelastpringleinthecan8040
@thelastpringleinthecan8040 22 күн бұрын
​@@flameofthephoenix8395pomni has already had a mental breakdown 2 times already. One during the exit maze, and one after the deletion of gummigoo. It must take a lot for a person to abstract.
@flameofthephoenix8395
@flameofthephoenix8395 22 күн бұрын
@@thelastpringleinthecan8040 Hm, I wouldn't really consider that very much of a break, going nuts is not the same as going insane. I wouldn't expect that to cause "abstraction." But perhaps this Gooseworx fellow has a lower bar for whether someone has gone insane.
@littlespoonsebastian
@littlespoonsebastian Ай бұрын
gooseworx saying that jax is troubled and that the show will mostly focus on the characters, also hinting at a very jax-centric episode in the future is very exciting to me. the internet these days, especially the fandom side, cant handle an antagonist just... being an antagonist, without ALSO being either hot and flirty or an uwu sad boi type. yes, he's definitely hiding something, or compensating for something with his behaviour, but hes a villain and some people went too far with headcanons and are now upset that hes acting consistently. character arcs take time, and mark my words, he's gonna get a LOT worse before he gets better, IF he gets better.
@connorjohnson8590
@connorjohnson8590 Ай бұрын
I still don’t think he’s straight up a villain. He’d probably be alienated by Ragatha or at the very least have her attention more since she’s the one to assume responsibility for stuff. To us his actions seem really dangerous and destructive, but in actuality his actions arnt harmful. Clearly nobody in the cast can actually feel pain normally, and even actually getting hurt by an abstracted character can be reversed.
@shewasthere.
@shewasthere. Ай бұрын
@@connorjohnson8590 I think the same !
@thomaswhite5122
@thomaswhite5122 29 күн бұрын
@@connorjohnson8590 i do think Jax was a gamer before going in and as he is now he could do what ever he wants as long as he able to check the limits of this game(hell he may know where a dev room is for the circus why he has keys for everywhere if not needing to swipe one from others) edit:also he spots the purple gator doing tricks and gets excited and wanted to get closer and knows about game physics for riding on top of trucks and maybe wanted to try to use camera angles and use Pomni's skinny arms as a temp bridge why he got upset at her
@mrschizo2837
@mrschizo2837 27 күн бұрын
And the thing is, he never really NEEDS to get better either. With how many "redeemable jerk" character's we have these days, it's actually perfectly okay to have a little reminder that no, some people just DON'T get better. Ever. No matter how much we want them to.
@battybuddy
@battybuddy 27 күн бұрын
I wouldn’t consider Jax an antagonist cause he’s pretty much doing the same things the others are with staying alive and staving off madness… he just does it in a horrible underhanded way. Like with the adventure, they were all trying to get the tanker back- he just decided to do it with a lot of violence explosions and death.
@hopebush6508
@hopebush6508 Ай бұрын
I thought it was obvious Jax is a major jerk, but still find it strangely amusing. Why the sudden love to hate him now? Besides, Jax just wanted to treat the adventure like some kind of violent video game since he believed they weren't in any real danger. It's all fake to him. Plus, he did show a little sadness when the funeral was mentioned. Maybe there is a heart, but showing that is like a weakness to him.
@moewCalv
@moewCalv Ай бұрын
We are surprised by how he went from a prankster/bully to a downright masochist. It happens so fast it isn't natural. It's not even a plot twist moment it just happens.
@kaylemathewcomendador6964
@kaylemathewcomendador6964 Ай бұрын
Some weirdly interpreted him not attending the funeral as him genuinely not caring. It’s like the idea of someone who hides they’re pain by being a jerk is a foreign concept for the fandom. Which would be weird as it’s a pretty recurring trope in media. Apparently the series creator confirmed on her online accounts that Jax is mostly there to be the troublesome jerk and ain’t interested in character development for him (akin to Nagito & Kokichi from Danganronpa). But it’s still weird how the fandom looks like they’re lacking media literacy on this department.
@moewCalv
@moewCalv Ай бұрын
@@kaylemathewcomendador6964 I caught that detail. Second watch because I didn't even realize he left. I was asking why isn't Jax speaking?
@tornadodee148
@tornadodee148 Ай бұрын
@@moewCalv YES, thank you!! Jesus, we can realize the tone shift without being a simp. Its like most of these people think any person that notices that this seems out of character for Jax wore rose colored glasses while watching the first episode! its like no??? um...writing?? lol
@moewCalv
@moewCalv Ай бұрын
@@tornadodee148 I dislike this attitude change this early on in the series. If they gave it a episode or two to build up gently that it's more natural than I wouldn't have an issue with this side of his personality.
@Topbeehler
@Topbeehler 29 күн бұрын
Yeah the people complaining confuse me. Like, you realize that's just his dynamic right? Like when he pushed Gangle over in episode 1, or how he'll run off leaving others to deal with problems while also not warning others. He is, in every sense of the word, an asshole. Sometimes people are just assholes, maybe they think it's funny, or maybe they are selfish, or, and this is my theory, based on episode 2s ending, he likely is covering up his true feelings. (Think like a school yard bully who acts like a jerk because his home life is bad) Given the situation and what we've seen of Jax, especially at the end of episode 2, there's a lot more too him and people not to not hyper focus his bad actions. Use your eyes and study what's going on, theorize, that's half the fun of watching a show if you ask me
@kliveran
@kliveran 29 күн бұрын
i love the part where people chipped Jax and Pomni only for she get grab by the throat, yeted whit 0 mercy, totally shattering the ship muahahahaha
@Mike-mf3ed
@Mike-mf3ed Ай бұрын
Gooseworks: “there’s nothing heroic about Jax.” Those people: “I smell a redemption arc in the next episode…”
@suspiciousstar7547
@suspiciousstar7547 Ай бұрын
Even if he did, why would it be in the second episode?
@Mike-mf3ed
@Mike-mf3ed Ай бұрын
@@suspiciousstar7547 because the first episode was his debut and it’s too soon for a redemption arc considering how short the entire series is planned to be. It’s like those people didn’t consider things like this.
@suspiciousstar7547
@suspiciousstar7547 Ай бұрын
@@Mike-mf3ed Yeah exactly. Even if he does get one (which could be a yes or a no), I'm guessing it would be later in the series.
@goatlover6312
@goatlover6312 29 күн бұрын
While I don’t particularly mind if he gets an redemption arc or not I will add that the quote said “there’s nothing heroic about Jax,” which means that there can be something heroic about him in the future. Again I don’t particularly care if he changes or not (I find his assholery amusing) but like all humans he does have the ability to become better in the future. Or maybe even worse, who knows.
@superherochestsymbol1032
@superherochestsymbol1032 27 күн бұрын
@@Mike-mf3ed The problem is fans act like impatient spoiled brats and expect way too much way too soon instead of just letting a show flow, literally most shows let characters do random things while lore or important stuff is dropped every few episodes, and ADC is about characters stuck in a digital circus and go on random adventures, yet they’re so impatient and expect Shakespeare or Lord of the Rings levels of writing and for a big season finale when something has barely started it’s engines, they’re genuinely trying to rush a basic writing process but if something doesn’t hit their standards they have the nerve to act all high and mighty and say “oh this is why a majority of modern writers can’t write” like bro just be patient and let the show be what it is, when something important happens it will, it’s a wacky cg cartoon not a Harry Potter novel lol
@herpderp3916
@herpderp3916 Ай бұрын
I mean I wouldn't mind it if Jax got beaten to death with hammers, but I do find it funny how people are getting upset because they expected him to be a funny little Sans-esque blorbo and got a legitimate asshole waste of space instead.
@ghostea25
@ghostea25 28 күн бұрын
And I'm not even sure what gave them the impression that he'd just be a silly goofy guy 💀 I thought this was OBVIOUSLY going to be his character
@TheDoughboy1917
@TheDoughboy1917 28 күн бұрын
They were expecting Sans and got Bender instead.
@superherochestsymbol1032
@superherochestsymbol1032 27 күн бұрын
@@ghostea25 I hate when fans act like they write the characters and act like they know what’s best for them and how they’re supposed to be, it’s so annoying beyond belief xd
@senabecool7232
@senabecool7232 26 күн бұрын
@@TheDoughboy1917maybe not Bender, he's a kleptomaniac and a general asshole, but he does have some soft spot for Fry
@mrcephalopod
@mrcephalopod 26 күн бұрын
Agreed. Jax is well written and well acted, and it sucks that Gooseworx and Kovach are getting crap for it. It's just that he's well written and acted as a piece of garbage I want to see suffer.
@strelitziamystery21
@strelitziamystery21 29 күн бұрын
Were people expecting a Zuko situation where despite being the bad guy, we got to know his PoV and be sympathetic towards him even before he started his arc?
@astrokattt
@astrokattt 27 күн бұрын
Subscribed to you back in 2016 and i’m pleasantly surprised you’re putting stuff out and getting more reach lately
@SpectraDragon
@SpectraDragon Ай бұрын
Digital circus drama Me : “aw sh¡t, here we go again”
@bensonjarvis5025
@bensonjarvis5025 Ай бұрын
I'll grab the popcorn
@Ireallydislikehandles
@Ireallydislikehandles Ай бұрын
Soda is ready!!! Let the tea begin 😌
@absolo3578
@absolo3578 Ай бұрын
Im ready with my chocolate covered strawberries
@LookiePookDaBoi
@LookiePookDaBoi Ай бұрын
Hey guys!! Brought the nachosss
@gn2677
@gn2677 Ай бұрын
Aye just let me know when it’s over I’m taking my pizza to go
@Svara.K
@Svara.K Ай бұрын
Micheal Kovach should not get hate for acting a character he voices so many characters like N from murder drones, Angledust from the hazbin piolet and Rocky from lackadaisey as well as many other characters from games like bendy, fnaf, poppyplaytime etc as they all have different personalities and Micheal doesn't make the script, he reads it. edit: my comment is not to bring hate to micheal Kovach im saying that he shouldn't get hate because of jax's characteristics and that he didn't make the character, he has also voiced many characters with all of them having very different personalities
@artistanthony1007
@artistanthony1007 Ай бұрын
He's a big name, it will happen anyway and that doesn't just mean online.
@rosykindbunny1313
@rosykindbunny1313 Ай бұрын
I hate Jax's character, but anything with Michael Kovach is a W
@Goomba1309
@Goomba1309 28 күн бұрын
Michael Kovach is a national treasure, CHANGE. MY. MIND.
@HenshinFanatic
@HenshinFanatic 27 күн бұрын
There's so many people who are Really Earning Trips to Asylums Regardless of Developmental Experience Diminished
@cabin3-zs1mu
@cabin3-zs1mu 27 күн бұрын
@@Goomba1309 i can change your mind, He’s no a national treasure, he’s a global one
@zegnaj_adios__
@zegnaj_adios__ 29 күн бұрын
Tbh when i heard about people going rouge about Jax being mean I was so surprised Like ?? what?? there is no difference, he was an ass in the first one and now he continues to do so what did they expect
@leflamewolf
@leflamewolf Ай бұрын
Personally my own little theory is that Jax has had some kind of mental breakdown at some point, or just a general slow decline in sanity. Seeing as nothing you do seems to have long term consequences in this reality, and the NPCs aren't really people I think Jax has kind of dehumanized everyone around him. This along with the inevitable negative consequences of being in a never changing digital world means he can probably only cope by just messing with everyone around him, it's not like you can kill one of the human characters as seen with both Ragatha and Pomni being stabbed on a few occasions, along with Gangle's comedy mask that was broken in the pilot, fixed between episodes, then broken again. From what I can tell he's just as broken and insane as everyone else and is simply trying to cope. Like he said in the pilot he doesn't care about anything as long as he gets to see funny things happened to people. A second more meta thing is that yes Jax is a terrible person, but that isn't bad writing. You can totally write a good character who is a bad person, even if they're a main character.
@DorothyEditing
@DorothyEditing Ай бұрын
I also noticed that a lot of people started to hate him after episode 2 came out. I think there are 2 reasons for this. First, people didn't perceive him as an asshole in the pilot. They saw a fun and teasing character. Second, a lot of people, myself included, believed that Jax would be the focus of episode 2. There was an announcement that episode 2 would be about depression, and like in the trailer we saw Jax on the ground (looking "depressed"), we had thought the episode would be about Jax's depression. We were far from what we finally got in episode 2. Even I was surprised by how despicable Jax could be. Yet, despite that, I don't hate him. I can't hate him. I'm not excusing what he does, and the way he behaves, but I think he has insecurities. This is just my personal opinion. I don't see why we would be given a purely evil character in the main group. I think Jax doesn't like to deal with his emotions. I think he has insecurities, and puts others down to make himself feel better. He acts as if nothing affects him, and takes everything lightly, as if to forget, or not think about the fact that he has been locked for a long time against his will. Maybe it stops him from thinking too much and having an existential crisis. I think there is a reason for his actions. I hope that after showing us how horrible he can be, he will eventually question himself and change the way he acts. I don't want to believe he stays like that until the end. I think he has a lot of potential, that's why he's my favorite character. And even if I'm wrong, it doesn't matter. I like him anyway, he's interesting. (I love the way he's animated, it's very pleasant to watch)
@SJ_Killingspree
@SJ_Killingspree Ай бұрын
This is what exactly how I feel. Never did I start hating him during that episode. If anything, I felt more pity, because it's very obvious that he's taking things out on others because he's incapable of handling his emotions himself
@meadowchanyukikosangacha2643
@meadowchanyukikosangacha2643 Ай бұрын
Oh, sure, he’ll become a goody pie and then I’ll go to prison for writing docs of him getting harassed by CatNap!
@cortster12
@cortster12 Ай бұрын
The people who didn’t see him as an asshole are likely bullies who don’t realize they're bullies. Happens a lot. "Oh, I was just having fun! They've just exaggerating! We're all friends here!" Stuff like that.
@umi4356
@umi4356 Ай бұрын
I hope not tbh. I really REALLY want a character who is a asshole for the sole purpuose of being a asshole, there is too many evil characters with depressing background at this point.
@xandersmith5742
@xandersmith5742 Ай бұрын
i was just, kinda suprised he was a little bit meaner, but i never really thought about it. im still not thinking about it. and i probably wont.
@suspiciousstar7547
@suspiciousstar7547 Ай бұрын
As someone who does have to admit the fanbase changed my perception on the character for a temporary amount of time, I think the hate is honestly ridiculous. Jax was and is meant to be an impulsive a-hole that likes creating chaos, harming others, and doing whatever keeps him entertained and distracted. This was hinted not only in the pilot but in posts as well. He's described of having *"no heroic qualities", "doing something unforgivable later", "being a pathetic loser with no friends", "being an impulsive d-head" and "causing a divide in the fandom".* While no means a good person, he's still hinted to have more to him than just an impulsive and destructive loser that some of these same people don't take into account. Gooseworx has stated he has *reasons for why he does what he does and the show and other pieces of media has a small amount of hints that he does actually care about his situation and abstraction to an extent* (like his reaction to Kaufmo's funeral and Michael Kovach's response to how he would actually feel if Ragatha abstracted). This doesn't excuse his past or future actions obviously, but it creates a more nuanced character that can go various paths. Either he learns his lesson after he commits the unforgivable OR he continues to get worse until he faces his own demise. Anyways, either of these paths would be interesting to go towards and for people expecting any character development remember this: *it is barely the second episode after all.*
@shewasthere.
@shewasthere. Ай бұрын
Wow, I agree with exactly everything you said, and its only been 2 episodes of him, people need to stop having such high expectations for not even the main character (Pomni pretty much is).
@suspiciousstar7547
@suspiciousstar7547 Ай бұрын
@@shewasthere. Mhm!
@StarBoxz
@StarBoxz 29 күн бұрын
Why do people call him a loser? He literally successfully doomed an entire kingdom. I think that's a win for him.
@goatlover6312
@goatlover6312 29 күн бұрын
@@StarBoxz A fictional kingdom that would cease to exist the moment they left it. He is called a looser because he is constantly putting others down to make himself feel better, hides his insecurities behind a mask of indifference and I think it’s fair to say that nobody in the cast would ever spend time with him if they had a choice.
@StarBoxz
@StarBoxz 29 күн бұрын
@@goatlover6312 I don't get why it's called being a loser then. Shouldn't a loser be someone who is unsuccessful in life or constantly met with failure and misfortune? It is based on the word "lose" but it often has nothing to do with actually losing when describing someone. It's probably a broad label then.
@tanjiranji-san1226
@tanjiranji-san1226 29 күн бұрын
In my theory on why Jax is now the way he is acting it’s because on how long he’s been in the Digital Circus World. Like, once he realized that none of this even matters and everything is just fake with NPC’s, of course he’s gonna go careless over his surroundings. From what I’ve seen is that Jax knows that the adventure ends once they reached their objective. And once he realizes that nothing even matters on what you do on the adventures, of course he wanted things to be chaotic and interesting for his own fun, it’s not like anyone of the members from the Digital Circus can die (like from how Ragatha got pierced through the chest with a spike in episode two) he didn’t really care how much damage he makes, he just wants chaos to add more spice to the adventure. But overtime, he started to get bored, hungry for more spice and chaos in the adventures that he even would sulk and be disappointed the fact that nothing went on how he anticipated. Even on Cosmos funeral, we can see that Jax already witnessed this multiple times with other characters in the circus. He lost his care due to how long and repetitive with things while being trapped into a world where nothing matters nor is it even real, the only objective is to complete adventures given by Caine.
@positiveproductions6699
@positiveproductions6699 29 күн бұрын
I'm excited to see what comes of this show in the future it's one of my favorite KZfaq animated series so far the first two episodes have not disappointed and I'm looking forward to the rest of the series
@HaleyZLMFT
@HaleyZLMFT Ай бұрын
I had like a visceral reaction to Jax in episode 2, but when I went back and rewatched episode 1 it was the him putting a centipede in Ragatha's room that reminded me "Oh yeah, this man is a menace to society." lol
@doombox1211
@doombox1211 Ай бұрын
I like the idea/hypothesis that Jax is so used to Caine's antics he's kind of like 'why wait' also Murderhoboing cause well, the worlds they visit won't matter once they leave, it'll all be reset/forgotten, so it doesn't matter if he broke the dam or left the door open, all the NPCs to him are just doing what they are programmed to
@Yipper64
@Yipper64 24 күн бұрын
Yeah. It makes sense how he treats NPCs. on the right day i'd probably treat them just the same honestly. Just videogame characters right? They arent actually sentient. Fun to mess with em'. I probably would have stayed to watch the chaos as Fudge eats the townsfolk though. And I have been getting the idea that maybe the digital circus characters are based on DnD player archetypes, like, Ragatha is the "lawful good" of the group, Jax is the murder hobo, Zoobel is the one person who never shows up to sessions, Gangle is the crybaby who starts whining at the slightest inconvenience, and idk what Kinger's deal would be exactly? My best guess is like that guy who was playing the original version and is probably too old to still be playing the game... Anyways obviously Pomni is the newbie. Part of this theory is because of lines seeming to imply that they should be acting "in character" like in the pilot Jax saying "no why would I do that?" could just be a snarky bit of sarcasm, but combined with lines like "arent you supposed to be submissive and agreeable?" makes me feel like for whatever reason they do kind of impose a "character" to play on eachother. Mostly Jax, because, well you know, he's a jerk, and he's going to abuse "acting in character" to be a jerk. Just like in DnD!
@samuelartist2007
@samuelartist2007 29 күн бұрын
I already know how jack was supposed to be even through many people just love him being a bad boy like a high schooler personality, i wasn't surprised how long it took to everyone realized how jax supposed to be in the full show
@bluespectrum1348
@bluespectrum1348 27 күн бұрын
It's pretty simple, actually. I never liked Jax as a person (I do like him as a character). In the pilot he was just a jerk. In episode 2 he wasn't just a jerk, he was straigt up cruel, specially towards Gangle. I did not like Jax very much in the pilot and after the latest episode I straight up despise him, but that's the point of the character. People (because people are straight up f*cked up) literally sexualized and fetishized Jax and I don't even know why, and now their illusion of the "hot mean skinny bunny boy" has been completely shattered, which is pretty hilarious to see.
@Starling_Star
@Starling_Star Ай бұрын
I dont understand how people can hate a character and blame the creator recently i feel people these day care more about fantasy that they hurt real people in the process. Which is an issue that these people need help.
@estebanatachaoarguedas6321
@estebanatachaoarguedas6321 Ай бұрын
People doing moral wars over fictional characters while harming real people is very Twitter/Tumblr thing.
@Starling_Star
@Starling_Star Ай бұрын
@@estebanatachaoarguedas6321 so true,its quiet sad sometimes i feel the internet shows us how these majority can easily let fantasy manipulate them to the point demaging there reality. And reality is already crappy for people like these to go coco for cocoa puffs over cartoons even though its okie to dislike a character but its not normal if it impacts your life.
@ZentaBon
@ZentaBon Ай бұрын
@@Starling_Star"coco for Cocoa Puffs" Lmao I love it xD
@Starling_Star
@Starling_Star Ай бұрын
@@ZentaBon thanks XD
@xaviere2008
@xaviere2008 29 күн бұрын
@@Starling_Stargood one
@zetafish7347
@zetafish7347 Ай бұрын
People have got to seriously stop treating their headcanons as canon, especially considering this show just started. People nowadays think a character having any kind of nuance makes them "out of character"
@The_One_Over_There
@The_One_Over_There 29 күн бұрын
Indeed. I'd hate to see this show end, or simply not even getting a chance to develop. All because people can't shut up, and sit the hell down.
@user-uf6zk4bs3p
@user-uf6zk4bs3p Ай бұрын
thank you for such a high-quality review of the topic on Jax
@Wicked_Fox
@Wicked_Fox 29 күн бұрын
NGL, Jax is my favorite main character. Goat VA, character design is cool, and his snark remarks are just great. He's not a hateable A hole, he's a fun A hole
@justcallmexen
@justcallmexen Ай бұрын
So far I've seen Jax as a driving force behind pushing the plot along. His antagonism is what has been making things happen. He opens the door to release Kofmo, pushes the duo down the hole to pursue the gloinks, forces Gangle to pursue the bandits, and entices Fudge to help bring them in. Cooler heads might take a step back and solve the issues differently, but so far, Jax takes charge and everyone usually just lets him without much fuss.
@oppositeeffect7770
@oppositeeffect7770 Ай бұрын
Gooseworx said that Jax is supposed to be a hated character and everyone’s backlash against him shouldn’t be a surprise to her since she wanted him to be hated in the first place.
@francoborda826
@francoborda826 29 күн бұрын
The problem is that people are hating on *HER* because they think she changed his personality just to annoy the fandom, and are trying to split episode 1 and episode 2 Jax when they are literally the same
@TrueLadyEvilChan
@TrueLadyEvilChan 28 күн бұрын
​@@francoborda826Something that's so annoying is when people think they know characters better than the creator. Granted, sometimes exceptions apply.
@thebighoney9034
@thebighoney9034 27 күн бұрын
@@francoborda826 when the canon version of the character is different then your headcanon fanart from tumblr version
@aarvid1987
@aarvid1987 17 күн бұрын
well then she better enjoy the show's downfall
@hanro50
@hanro50 29 күн бұрын
I think it is more of a case in episode 1. Jax was involved in a lot more chaos. So he was having a fun time dealing with it and experiencing it. Episode 2 still had chaos, but Jax wasn't involved with it. Meaning he was a lot more miserable within it. Also, I'm just adding this here. I think Cane does adapt his adventures to suite the cast better over time. We may see more empathetic npc characters since Pomni engaged with one this episode. Jax loves destruction.......so hence the reason the goo monster existed.
@RichDXtreme247
@RichDXtreme247 27 күн бұрын
Jax to me is never someone TO BE LOVED or sympathized. He's the guy that you should love to HATE. That's his job. He wants you to HATE HIS GUTS. But at the same time, he entertains you while he does it. He'll love every second of it. But of course, Twitter or Tumblr, they love making things for their lewd imaginations or make him into something he's NOT.
@angillusions
@angillusions Ай бұрын
To be honest, no matter what will happen, Jax will be my favourite character forever
@WaffleVee
@WaffleVee Ай бұрын
Yeah same If the amazing digital circus was real I would be Jax but younger or smth
@sanromanosqui
@sanromanosqui Ай бұрын
​@@WaffleVee😐
@cassandramerle6424
@cassandramerle6424 Ай бұрын
He is my favorite also
@diduardnoob8023
@diduardnoob8023 Ай бұрын
@@WaffleVeejax is 20
@jonal5126
@jonal5126 Ай бұрын
What if he makes someone abstract?
@nemesisalex9424
@nemesisalex9424 Ай бұрын
It seems people didn't like Jax turning into a tantrum throwing manchild when things didn't go his way and that killed off the Tumblr Sexyman image people had of him. Though it was always pretty obvious he was an imature and self centered prick with how he'd just push gangle out of the way for no reason and whatnot
@shewasthere.
@shewasthere. Ай бұрын
Exactly, and he is the youngest and most imature in the circus, wouldn't it be obvious that he was going to do that?
@xaviere2008
@xaviere2008 29 күн бұрын
i never saw him as cool to begin with
@MouseGoat
@MouseGoat 27 күн бұрын
Angry Twitter dwellers hate self reflections lol
@gabys.6666
@gabys.6666 26 күн бұрын
I think it's a problem with people obsessing over a pilot of a promising new show, then diving headfirst into theories, fanfiction, and overspeculation with just an episode's worth of info. Too many people attach themselves to all these preconcieved ideas about a story that has only just begun. That's why I like to stay open-minded with things like headcannons and stuff since 1) I could very well end up being wrong and 2) my ideas aren't any more valid than those of the creator. People need to calm down and just see where the story takes them. If it ends up not being your cup of tea, fine. But give creators breathing room to just do their work. It's sad that toxic fans treat storytellers like a restaurant: give me what I want cooked the way I want it; not like artists that choose to tell their own story. It's not that audiences can't offer important criticisms or ideas, of course. It's just that "controversies" like these seem to come more from selfishness than anything else.
@BehindSpear-throw
@BehindSpear-throw 29 күн бұрын
Everyone thought he was gonna be another "pretends to be mean but is actually caring" character and immeadiately assumed they were 100% right instead of using their brains and realising that this doesn't have to be the case.
@amiboilpon4068
@amiboilpon4068 Ай бұрын
digital circus fan when a mean character do MEAN things 😱
@GloomyFish
@GloomyFish Ай бұрын
what i liked especially about him in episode 2 is how he is in a world where death isnt really a thing and most new people he meets are NPCs, so he can be as destructive as he wants to be. he's not necessarily in the right since he hurts his friends, and we see that the NPCs have personalities and feelings. None of that matters to Jax, and honestly I could delve deeper into why I think he is the way he is. He's also kind of a foil to Pomni in that episode. Pomni befriends an NPC, they open up to each other, she sees him as just as real as she is. Jax, on the other hand, uses the NPCs as a means to be needlessly destructive just because he can. I'm really looking forward to seeing the dynamic between Jax and Pomni develop
@shewasthere.
@shewasthere. Ай бұрын
Samee
@alexanderglex4600
@alexanderglex4600 27 күн бұрын
Oh hell nah, more fuel for Jax x Pomni, but aside from the weird ass fans I would love to see that
@RandomTheIdiot55
@RandomTheIdiot55 27 күн бұрын
It’s also possible that Jax doesn’t even know the NPCs are sapient, since they got an AI update almost immediately before episode 2 and he wasn’t there to see what happened with Gummigoo, he only heard about it from Pomni. For all we know, the previous NPCs could’ve been dumb as bricks and not fully sentient.
@user-wx6ms9rv2m
@user-wx6ms9rv2m 26 күн бұрын
@@RandomTheIdiot55 Something tells me Jax wouldnt care
@Anonymous-73
@Anonymous-73 27 күн бұрын
This is honestly a perfect example of why people obsessing over “Tumblr Sexymen” are completely missing the mark because they constantly show off these characters as charming and devilishly handsome guys when they’re actually just psychopaths or assholes, sometimes even both.
@addisonwillard5848
@addisonwillard5848 26 күн бұрын
It's crazy to me that y'all thought he was actually a good person. It's like people are unable to comprehend the fact that yes, this character is an actual bully, not "oh look at this silly guy he's a hot bad boy character." I knew he was an absolute menace to begin with, so I have absolutely no complaints about his character/personality "changing" or whatever because it didn't, he's just actually causing problems now.
@witifulweavile2272
@witifulweavile2272 Ай бұрын
My opinion of Jax actually went up in episode 2 thanks to the funeral moment, where he does the typical "prevent myself from crying by blinking and hide my true emotions by walking away from the situation" showing that while he is a huge jerk, there is a very small and hidden soft side. And gooseworks even mentioned that he's a "troubled individual" This is only episode 2 of 8, so give him time. And if he's truely meant to just be a jerk, at least he's an incredibly entertaining one.
@grayrodent8232
@grayrodent8232 Ай бұрын
They all developed very different coping mechanisms, Jax's seems to just be hedonistic nihilism fuelled by the knowledge that nothing he does holds any form of real long term consequence. The stakes were high on the first episode with Kaufmo running around being an actual threat, so his dickery comes off as small annoyances in the spurt of the moment, giving off this "Trickster" vibe. Episode 2 is an adventure where Jax gets to have full autonomy to face the situation at hand in any way he pleases, this is the result of that. This is the purest Jax in his natural element.
@ShadeKirby500
@ShadeKirby500 28 күн бұрын
Thats true, there is no abstracted Kaufmo in episode 2 running around and beating up everything, and distracting people away from Jax's terrible behavior. The asshole is in full force.
@emilyn1604
@emilyn1604 27 күн бұрын
The one thing I’m going to say with all this is I only just recently learned about this show. I watched episode 1 and then immediately watched episode 2. Jax seemed pretty much the exact same.
@TwentySeventhLetter
@TwentySeventhLetter 27 күн бұрын
It really feels like the main difference between ep1 and ep2 with his portrayal is just that his antisocial behavior isn't played as much for laughs this time around, and is more explicitly aimed at Pomni instead of just kind of going on in the B plot in parallel to a bunch of characters we are also primed to find funny. Count that with the emotional investment we have in Gummigoo compared to never meeting Kaufmo and having his attitude retain the same level of active malice for people we have just been shown are real enough to be morally relevant, and the sting of the dark ramifications of his behavior is shown undeniably without any benefit of the doubt. We are a little more familiar with this place now than in ep1, and we know that it doesn't matter to Jax how real anyone is, he gets off on watching them suffer, and that's really fucked up.
@DeusExRequiem
@DeusExRequiem Ай бұрын
Jax has looked at the camera twice now, first time was passed off as looking at another character, but the second time he was just looking at a wall, so it's likely that our perspective may be something canonical, or else he's more aware of their actual situation. If Jax does something unforgivable, it could be related to the ending of I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream, where one character kills all the others to spare them from endless torture at the cost of their own torture. Maybe he attempts to force the others to undergo abstraction?
@SpiderNightcrawler
@SpiderNightcrawler Ай бұрын
I'd love if it went any route similar to IHNM
@happybhattacharjee7673
@happybhattacharjee7673 29 күн бұрын
Basically, He will be a Chad Like Teddy boi
@mitchellalexander9162
@mitchellalexander9162 27 күн бұрын
@@SpiderNightcrawler Well its in the 'Inspired By' Section for TADC...
@Yipper64
@Yipper64 24 күн бұрын
Im calling it, he's going to kill Gummigoo right in front of Pomni just to make Pomni mad.
@ChamomilleMilk
@ChamomilleMilk Ай бұрын
People when a character has to have problems to overcome to have character development
@JimBimBum
@JimBimBum 27 күн бұрын
i hope in episode 3 they do a recap of what we didn't get to see towards the end in episode 2.
@shovknight3008
@shovknight3008 28 күн бұрын
The way I interpret Jax’s character is that he’s taken the approach of “nothing truly matters here so I’m just gonna do whatever I want.” In order to keep himself somewhat sane. It’s like how a lot of us play the most chaotic route in a video game since there aren’t any real consequences and no one is actually getting hurt. I doubt any of the main squad can truly die so Pomni probably wasn’t in any real danger in that way. He seems to also secretly care about the other members based off his reaction to the discussion of Kaufmos funeral at the end. I just think there’s a lot more left to learn about his character before we make judgements about how bad of a person he is.
@bonthenoob
@bonthenoob Ай бұрын
tbh the whole drama about jax going from the most liked chracter/the next tumblr sexyman to most despised guy is kinda funny lmao i can understand ppl would be weirded out since jax wasn't that bad in the pilot but gooseworx warned ppl that he would get bad personally i like em because he just causes and chaos and does stupid things and its gonna be cool to learn abt em more :D
@pupper1783
@pupper1783 Ай бұрын
I prefer this honestly, less simps is better
@porkyminch1640
@porkyminch1640 Ай бұрын
gummigoo is the new husbando
@LocalChildEaterInYourArea
@LocalChildEaterInYourArea Ай бұрын
@@porkyminch1640real
@sirtalentless2548
@sirtalentless2548 29 күн бұрын
⁠​⁠@@porkyminch1640brand new dead husbando
@Zenskolol
@Zenskolol 28 күн бұрын
@@porkyminch1640exactly
@aarvid1987
@aarvid1987 17 күн бұрын
go to the undertale fandom then rtard
@SHr00mS0m3
@SHr00mS0m3 22 күн бұрын
I think it's freaking hilarious how just one episode after the pilot has already torn the crazy Jax fans apart, especially when it comes to the simps. I was honestly expecting this to happen immediately after watching the 2nd episode through.
@Mirianimefan
@Mirianimefan 28 күн бұрын
Jax in the pilot: Me: I love him Jax in episode 2: Me: I love him even more!
@akane7082
@akane7082 Ай бұрын
What ever happened to people simping over Jax and putting him in a high pedestal for the Tumbler man type only for the the Jax simps to unsimp for Jax and remove his Tumbler men pass away from him 😂, thankfully I never was a Jax simp/fan but I always viewed him as just average character pretty much.
@insertenombreramdom1150
@insertenombreramdom1150 Ай бұрын
I like that they gave us a truly despicable character and not the typical "bad boy", it's refreshing to see an idiot with almost no redeemable qualities, but at the same time chaotic, I think he will still be my favorite character even if they don't give him any character arc
@Sammie1053
@Sammie1053 27 күн бұрын
Solid breakdown! Just a side note, when you're reading a tweet/post from someone it's generally a good idea to read it verbatim. For a few of the tweets you put on screen, you moved a couple words around or changed/inserted them; it was nothing that altered the meaning of the original post, which is the most important part, but it's still a little jarring when you're reading along and the narration says something different than what you're seeing on the screen.
@nikicherry1234
@nikicherry1234 28 күн бұрын
I stand by: "He should be worse, actually." I enjoy these types of characters. Let Jax be a murder hobo. He's in a videogame world where death doesn't apply to him (not counting abstraction), his actions don't have consequences. What are you gonna do? Put him in prison? I also really like the "Everyone is a different type of gamer" theory. I also thought the same thing that Jax responded with to the Chocolate river monster: "Is it really bad if they're delicious? You've got a point." But I'm not gonna get into morality of cannibalism where everything and everyone is made out of the same material. (sugar) Anyways. Jax is my favourite, but I'm actually most interested in finding out what the deal is with Kinger.
@Kwizzy8406
@Kwizzy8406 Ай бұрын
Jax’s character outside game: mischievous inside game: devilish
@pristina4628
@pristina4628 Ай бұрын
With developed brains?Dear,I think like 85% who watching this show are kids or teenagers.And they get mad when something doesnt go their way and write it on twitter,cuz kids are brutal.We saw that in Undertale,Naruto and so...Most wholesome shows get always most toxic fandom.And most toxic shows get most wholesome fandom.I know,I was in both.Thats life.
@ahawdjkmwodjikma6543
@ahawdjkmwodjikma6543 Ай бұрын
remember when the undertale fandom begged markiplier to play the game only to shit on him for not getting the perfect ending on his first playthrough?
@artistanthony1007
@artistanthony1007 Ай бұрын
There are adults who act like this, do not say it is just kids and teens.
@xandersmith5742
@xandersmith5742 Ай бұрын
i don't want to be rude, but you're supposed to put a space after every punctuation mark...
@mallk238
@mallk238 Ай бұрын
it makes it interesting as I think I saw a tweet from gooseworx that said that speculated on whether or not the fandom would shift towards the target demographic as the show goes on. Seeing as the show seemed to immediately get consumed by children who're probably used to things being "no kids allowed" (even though most of them do make themselves easier for children to stomach. Like FNAF and Poppy playtime leaning *hard* into the child audience). I will be interested in seeing how many of them stay since this show feels like it doesn't want to pull it's punches.
@I_Dont_Believe_In_Salad
@I_Dont_Believe_In_Salad Ай бұрын
​@@artistanthony1007 Last time i checked, Digital Circus are full of kids and teens. Adults are Minority If you want to blame Adults so bad, please mention My Little Pony next time so your argument can be valid
@D_YellowMadness
@D_YellowMadness 26 күн бұрын
People totally glossed over the fact that in episode 1, he immediately joked around about Kaufmo being abstracted & one of the first things he did after Gangle found out about it was push her down for fun.
@sh4rky466
@sh4rky466 8 күн бұрын
Yeah. He was still a complete asshole! I think the reason people are saying he's changed so much is because A. We didn't get as much of him in the pilot that we did in EP 2, and B. Because in the pilot, they were just in the Circus. They didn't go anywhere, so it's not like he had other NPCs to torture or a new world to plunder. In EP 2, since they went to the Candy Kingdom, so he had much more power to do whatever the hell he wanted to these new NPCs. He actually had a chance to cause more chaos, unlike in the pilot, where Kaufmo's abstraction was the main cause of the chaos and he didn't need to do all that much to see everything go to shit.
@dorememe8548
@dorememe8548 29 күн бұрын
I’m excited to see what direction they’re gonna go with Jax.
@Amaris-kf1ec
@Amaris-kf1ec Ай бұрын
Although, my favourite characters are Zooble and Gangle, the way Jax acted in episode to actually piqued my curiosity for this periwinkle rabbit...
@Canberk-jj8eg
@Canberk-jj8eg 29 күн бұрын
W favorite characters I love them too
@artistanthony1007
@artistanthony1007 Ай бұрын
Of course Gooseworx ain't gonna give a shxt, that's why I love her as she knows there will be hate but couldn't give a shxt, unlike Viv who will be fixated on hate and create more trouble than was done already rather than just accept it will happen and move on.
@TIGERLOVER1
@TIGERLOVER1 29 күн бұрын
Yeah, that's one of her flaws. Viv needs to take a break from social media.
@Cyb3rbytezOSC
@Cyb3rbytezOSC 29 күн бұрын
I don’t get why people hate him due to knowing he was a jerk before, but, i still love him 😭😭
@matthewmasucci1425
@matthewmasucci1425 28 күн бұрын
If Jax were nice, he likely wouldn’t stand out as much from the rest of the humans in the circus. And his motivation makes sense; he feels so detached from reality in the digital circus that he also detached himself from worrying about the consequences of his actions
@DeadHaremGuy
@DeadHaremGuy Ай бұрын
The only difference between Jax in the 2 episodes I can see is he seems alot more active in the problems he creates. In the pilot he tries to makes existing problems worse but in episode he creates problems that weren't there before. Not really out of character, just kinda surprising seeing him that much effort into his schemes.
@linkibear8644
@linkibear8644 Ай бұрын
I think his prickness is what makes him an entertaining character xD
@LeonidesEzekiel
@LeonidesEzekiel 29 күн бұрын
Yarss
@zzxxccvvkk5
@zzxxccvvkk5 27 күн бұрын
Jax doesn't deserve hate, he like everyone else is a kidnapped prisoner, he is resisting in his own way to be released
@aarvid1987
@aarvid1987 17 күн бұрын
not really if you defend him you're stupid
@raeesrichards6786
@raeesrichards6786 26 күн бұрын
It's not even that he's a "Tumblr Sexyman" I just saw Jax as the cool asshole, like Ethan from Ctrl+Alt+Del, or Muscle Man from Regular Show's earlier seasons, or Angel Dust in the Hazbin Hotel pilot. Yes, I know he left Ragatha and Pomni behind to get killed by abstracted Kaufmo, but he was cool whilst doing it. The new episode portrayed him as a whiny crybaby instead of him simply being laidback snark.
@dxmaqe8142
@dxmaqe8142 Ай бұрын
Gooseworx: *Introduces and fleshes out a character* Also Gooseworx: *Kills him immediately after*
@MouseGoat
@MouseGoat 27 күн бұрын
AKA:finnaly some good fking story writing, with guts! Love to see it!
@superrrhys1692
@superrrhys1692 Ай бұрын
"I'm so unbelievably disappointed right now..." - Jax
@ReesesPuffs89
@ReesesPuffs89 28 күн бұрын
People say he’s just a plain jerk, and he is. BUT, if you pay attention to detail, you can actually see how he actually lets some of his real emotions slip out sometimes. For example, when they mentioned kaufmo’s funeral at the end of the episode, you can see him looking sad for a split second and immediately changing the emotion to appear as anger. So I personally think he’s only rude as a coping mechanism or as a way to protect himself from getting too close to anyone. You also have to keep in mind that he’s the youngest of the characters. In the first episode, he says: “We’ve been stuck here for years.” Implying that not only everyone else has been stuck here for years, but he has too. So it’s possible that he was trapped in the circus at an extremely young age. So of course he wouldn’t be all sunshine and rainbows. He would probably be rude, and if you think about it, you probably would be too.
@barrymitchell7783
@barrymitchell7783 26 күн бұрын
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