At 12:46 I made a mistake and omitted part of the video. I meant to say that the insta360 x4 8k mode uses its quad bayer sensor’s high resolution mode. X4 is not native 8k, so it has less detail than a native 8k sensor.

I had my Max for a while and tried to wait for the Max 2. I end up getting the X4. I hope the Max 2 is worth the wait for everyone that is waiting.

GoPro Max 2 really needs to include Bluetooth audio and external audio support this time around. It's a feature many users have been waiting for a long time

The only killer feature I need from GoPro is that they work, consistently. I’ve had so many fail on me over the years. I’ve lost count.

I've been travelling for 3 months now and have literally only been using the Max, resorting only to the Hero 12 when the Max overheats or if I need to shoot in lowlight. A Max 2 with higher resolution and heat sink would be a boon. Plus a supercomputer...

what they need to focus on is color volume and processing out noise to give a more clear picture.

Automatic in camera re-framing is NOT of interest or a priority to me as a creator, I still want to manually re-frame my shoots (Zoom level [FOV], angle). Pixel count is important to me but equally so is pixel size (i.e. sensor size). All that R&D and the App is still crap ... GoPro MUST improve (🌐360°) PC & App editing software. I have (multiple of) both the GoPro Max and GoPro Fusion (Plus many other 🌐360° cams [X2, X4, RS1, ERA, Vuze, Sphere, more]. GoPro post production processing/editing software is the WORST. GoPro has made minor and far between improvements (i.e. SLOW). I will still buy the new MAX 2 (just because) but I will likely not use it as much as other brands if the post processing does not significantly improve. The GoPro Fusion (IMO) produces a better image than the GoPro Max, however, post processing the Fusion is SLOW. Though now, using HIGH END computers with NVIDIA 4090, the Fusion post processing (stitching speed) is dramatically improved, if you have the latest beta camera firmware & latest beta PC APP (GoPro Fusion Studio 1.4). The GoPro Fusion Studio 1.4 PC App NOW FINALLY takes advantage of the 4090 and makes stitching speeds close to X4 stitching speeds, but the GoPro Fusion Studio 1.4 editing is still non-existent (but CAN be cleverly tricked into Insta360 Studio) . GoPro Max stitching/editing is better than Fusion, but not much. The very last secret beta camera firmware for the Fusion bumped its resolution up AND that DID improve image clarity beyond the MAX. My best use of GoPro Max is with GoPro Labs and the MASSIVE quantity of features the GoPro Labs adds! Great as a 🌐360° game cam or 🌐360° security cam or 🌐360° dash cam. My best use of a GoPro Fusion is for B-Roll (often on a chesty for lens-risky close up work, it excels in quality and is an affordable risk). Bottom line, GoPro needs to improve the external editing experience to a competitive level. The camera just simply needs to record the best image possible, and the app should do the rest of the work effortlessly.

Great video. You have my hopes up. I've been holding out for the Max2. I hope Nick is right and it's worth the wait.

getting the highest possible Image quality should be the thing GoPro should put their focus on. Maybe even work with a reputable lens company like Zeiss, Leica or whatever brand name is hot right now and write it big on the case. GoPro have always been very overpriced and their competitors DJI and insta360 will not move aside now very easily, especially as their respectable products are at least in my opinion far superior and more innovative.

WAIT! What do you mean by "automatic reframing?" Doesn't the X3 and X4 already have "Me Mode" which is reframing the video in real time, to keep subject in frame? I am confused.

Nice Share Mic but this is probably a fake attempt from GoPro fanboys trying to get some buzz. I don't think GoPro has the right 360 community of engineers, developers and R& D teams to currently stay relevant in the 360 market. Insta360 has definitely made a solid evolution in the last 9 years releasing much more than a 360 camera and this is really tough to beat 😉

What would be really cool (and surprising) is if the "Max 2" actually unfolded to produce 3D capability (like my beloved EVO). I wish 3D was more prevalent, and I wish I could figure out an EASY way to watch my 3D EVO video on my Meta Quest 3.

I think the real breakthrough on 360 consumer cameras will be them using 1" sensors with resolutions above 10k or 12k, finally outputting high quality video in low light and true 4k comparable IQ after edited and reframed. We are still a few years away from that though the technology is right here right now already and has been for a while.

Yes, but price will be so huge like all go pro flagship. For now the good solution is the qoocam ultra 😊

Could it be a 1”inch sensor or bigger single lens camera?

Hopefully GoPro can improve their software experience. Reframing has always been the killer feature for 360 (especially as VR continues to languish) and having automatic syncing, editing, subject following etc would be really useful. Software is where GoPro can really have a defensible advantage - especially with the advancements in AI, you could imagine GoPro (or someone else, based on their software track record) doing fantastic image segmentation, or 3D scene generation (splatting/meshing etc)...

Killer feature? It could flip open for VR180. The GoPro max was a good camera for it's time 5 years ago except for 1 thing: NO SOFTWARE. That's right, GoPro never made software to cut and stitch together 360 video. They only let you reframe and export flat video, and only on the phone. On PC you can only export the footage as a full panorama - no editing, no cutting, no stitching, no adding soundtracks. It's seriously sad. I had told myself I would never buy gopro again until they had a proper editing program for the PC. But Unfortunately the other 360 options arent perfect either.

You said 140 mil but I see it says 140 thou

it looks like a drone camera

I'm guilty of owning the MAX since it came out but I still haven't gotten around to using it. I just keep using my Insta360 cameras.

Seems late as a prototypes for a product , should the plan to release before end of 2024

Think go pro has had its day insta all the way now, last go pro I got is the 9 got the insta 360x3 and mostly use it now far better with horizon lock etc and the being able to edit your field of view is far better

*Another great video* 🤟🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽🤟🏽 ps, you're lookin younger and younger in each new video!

Fantastic, great research! I've been waiting a long time for MAX 2.

also something with the app what has missed features i realy used.

Thanks, awesome analyze. Welcome back GoPro, we are waiting :-)

This was a really interesting discussion. Thank you.

Insta 360 has really been very good in bringing out so many models and yearly updates where G0 pro 360 has only one model. I have bought insta x2 x3 and x4 and big improvements every time for and that makes money for the company and Go pro have really missed out. Yes I own Go pro 4 and 7 but 360 for me is a game changer, go pro 360 software is in the dark ages sadly compared to insta phone app and laptop studio. I’ll be interested on the specs to see if it can compete with X4 reliability, 1 inch sensor would be nice and no overheating when using as a sports action camera 🥳

The first generation of the Max is out of stock. Perhaps a market launch is imminent.

Well. There's nothing tooooo dramatic to buy GoPro for myself, then.

Looks ai generated picture

0:19 Dude, everyone sees that this is Stable Diffusion.

Picture looks like it's made using AI

My idea is making a 3D camera to record content to be viewed in Apple Vision Pro

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Great explanation, thanks 🙏

All this sounds very interesting, and I'm looking forward to seeing all the finals specs when this gets released. Great video, and thanks for sharing.

Thank you

Thanks for the video! :)

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Weather the sensor will be 1" or smallernor whatever it is, they'll simply need to beat (or at least match) the low light IQ of the X4. GoPro's cameras are notably bad in low light (as well as the stabilization that goes down the drain at the same time) and being in such dire financial situation and having taken so long to release the new model, unless is really something spectacular, then it will be another DOA product adding to their failures and lack of cash. I personally think GoPro is 1 bad camera away from shutting down it's doors and they do come out with a new 360 camera it better be leaps and bounds above Insta360's along with killer editing software to match (which is the next problem because Insta's mobile and desktop apps are really very good). All-in-all, I don't have a lot of faith in any of it coming from them but hey, maybe they'll surprise the market. What I know FOR SURE, is that one more "Karma" and they'll be gone.

Interesting ideas Mic ) Thanks for this ) also interesting how go pro less income from selling cameras , just what they get when just sell every year almost same camera without post updates like insta does ) also idea about to involves money GoPro company to make huge thinks to make really cool 360 camera just not to produce not really compete to market and want to make it on head higher than what is on market now .... Very interesting))

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0:03 looks like a cake model to me. 😊