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2022 Coachmen Nova 20C SCOTT SCORE on REAL-WORLD USE of Class B RV

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@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
FAST FWD using video TIME POINTS in notes below. CREATE your own SCOTT SCORE criteria to examine the floor plans you like the best. DOWNLOAD FREE TOOLKIT at gosmalllivelarge.com/shopping-toolkit-workshee More info and IN-PERSON EVENTS at www.GoSmallLiveLarge.com Thx for watching, commenting & subscribing :)
@carolp495
@carolp495 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Scott: We traded our 21 Travato KL for the 2022 Nova 20C Li3. I was so afraid that it was a mistake after thinking about the Nova's storage, but wow, we have realized that this machine is awesome. The refrigerator has the best storage of any RV we have ever owned. You would also be amazed what we have been able to fit in the back. It is deceiving. It has turned out to be my favorite rv, and we have had A Lot of RV's over the years. Coachman did a great job and we could not be more happy. And go Sunshine State RV, an excellent company to deal with. Love your videos, keep them coming.
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Carol. Thx for sharing. Glad you are thrilled with your Nova 20c
@stephanieslack3207
@stephanieslack3207 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Carol, I am considering a Nova 20C Li3. What all can you fit in the back? I assume you mean behind the back seat. Will two carry on suitcases fit back there? Just trying to figure out the size of the back storage. Also what is your take on having to make and unmake the bed everyday? I'm not thrilled about that aspect. Thanks!
@carolp495
@carolp495 2 жыл бұрын
@@stephanieslack3207 There is way more storage that I could have imagined. My husband puts the bed together at night and takes it down in the morning (yay). We have a duvet cover that fits over a 1-1/2" memory foam. He rolls it up like a sleeping bag and it fits behind the seat along with our two king sized pillows. He made a platform behind the couch which keeps the bedding from falling down to the bottom of the floor. It doesn't get in the way when we put the bed down, but allows for so much more storage below that platform. If you didn't have the bedroll, you could most likely fit soft suitcases.
@renatapizzutti8775
@renatapizzutti8775 2 жыл бұрын
I love "SCOTT SCORE", so well thought out! I can't wait for the next one! You could consider making one for the Wingamm Oasi 540!
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Cool idea on Wingamm
@peggyconway2900
@peggyconway2900 2 жыл бұрын
We pick up our Nova 20C this week!
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Peggy. So excited for you !!!! Let us know how things go!
@peggyconway2900
@peggyconway2900 2 жыл бұрын
@@gosmall.livelarge will do!
@zoflo728
@zoflo728 Жыл бұрын
A year later, what is your experience so far?
@peggyconway2900
@peggyconway2900 Жыл бұрын
@@zoflo728 We love our van. We’ve been on the road for 5 months now and love it! Easy to drive and park. So far our style of traveling is “camp to travel” in the next couple years we may change to “travel to camp”. If that becomes true, we will look for a bigger rig
@mikedr1549
@mikedr1549 2 жыл бұрын
The first thing you could do is get a larger lagune table - easy fix! Thanks for the well thought out video - you're easily one of the best RV KZfaqrs.
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your compliment, Mike. Trying to work hard for you. Yes, first thing is to replace table with a larger size.
@michaelday5983
@michaelday5983 2 жыл бұрын
I just want to say thank you for doing such great videos on class B's. My partner and I have been shopping for a class b and your videos have been so helpful for us to narrow down the list of contenders. One idea for future videos would be to include the dimensions of the bathrooms. Most manufacturers don't put that info on their website and I haven't seen many walk-thru videos where that's covered. Thanks again!
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Mr. Day. Great idea. I think bathroom measurements are incorporate in upcoming Scott Score vids. Glad you find these videos helpful.
@mattcarratola9292
@mattcarratola9292 2 жыл бұрын
great review- from my experiences in Japan the bathroom will work perfectly if you sit down on the toilet and use the hand extension. sitting showers are kind of cool.
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Thx Matt. More of a standing shower 🚿 guy myself. a little too soon in age for me to sit to shower !
@ChopperChad
@ChopperChad 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you on the lack of garage storage and it’s a deal killer for me. But what a solid interior and feature set! Seems like a comfortable place to be with good systems.
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
You make good points.
@tomgraulty4988
@tomgraulty4988 2 жыл бұрын
GREAT IDEA Scott! You’ll be the Doug de Muro of Van Life!
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Have to look up “Doug de Muro of Van Life” !!!
@anitaweinstein2194
@anitaweinstein2194 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Scott, We have looked at that very Nova Li3 up there at Sunshine State RV and chatted with a number of folks up there also. We love the Nova because of the extra passenger option . However we’re not quite ready to give up on our 2022 Travato. Yet. We appreciate the Shopping Tool Kit download. Thanks again for all of your guidance.
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Happy to help Anita.
@chrisgrover507
@chrisgrover507 2 жыл бұрын
I like these Scott Scores. Please keep them coming. I would like to see how you score a Solis 59px.
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy the Scott Score videos. Solis 59PX in the queue for you !
@stephanieslack3207
@stephanieslack3207 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the real life critique of the RV vans. I appreciate your well thought out criteria and you taking the time to make and share the videos with the KZfaq world.
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy
@travellinmark2745
@travellinmark2745 2 жыл бұрын
You are one of my top two reviewers. I especially like your comments on both single and couple users, very helpful! Just came home from a rail trip and the wet room toilet/shower were uncomfortably small. I like the focus you put on the bathroom. Thanks.
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Appreicate you T Mark. Rail trip from Chicago to New Orleans is still on my bucket list.
@tonyl1483
@tonyl1483 Жыл бұрын
Awesome idea! I’m so happy you decided to do this type of video! 👍 27:30
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge Жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!! Did you see this video I did staying in a parking lot Urban Camping, kzfaq.info/get/bejne/esedgsSD1LrXYIU.html
@traveldreamer4616
@traveldreamer4616 2 жыл бұрын
I really like the Scott score! It allows a person to compare different scores they have assessed to make a more informed decision based on criteria. Awesome work Scott. Thank you
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you like the Scott Score TD46
@traveldreamer4616
@traveldreamer4616 2 жыл бұрын
@@gosmall.livelarge where is Texedo?
@williamgildea8348
@williamgildea8348 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Scott, one of the best videos you’ve ever done. Great information. Especially for someone like myself who is going to be retiring soon and will be doing the van life. 😃
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Excited for your upcoming travel journeys after retirement William
@Van_Liberty
@Van_Liberty 2 жыл бұрын
The Lagun table need a swing out table extender...I have the Norcold dual compressor refer in my Embassy and it stores a LOT of stuff, especially the lower drawer. I was amazed on my Florida trip that I could add a small bag of ice to all my other frozen goods.
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Great points
@sybilburke1404
@sybilburke1404 Жыл бұрын
Very impressed with your walk-thru.
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge Жыл бұрын
Glad you like. TY for watching
@healeybob1
@healeybob1 Жыл бұрын
Scott, I would love to see a video on bedding options for these styles of vans. There are many of these drop-down bed options but have never seen anybody discuss how to equip the bed and store the linens.
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge Жыл бұрын
Great idea. I use a fitted bottom sheet from target in the twin XL size. It fits and works perfectly. There is no storing of linens in the van. It’s the sheets on the bed that you use and then wash and put back on the bed.
@mikemcgeehan4321
@mikemcgeehan4321 2 жыл бұрын
Scott keep this going. Great review and scoring. 👍🏼
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike. Just getting started
@havingfunatthis
@havingfunatthis 2 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍 Thank you, Scott. I am ready to drive there and would love to get it asap. Have to figure out the 6" clearance. We have 9'8" to work with in height. I appreciate your doing this today as I pretty much know it's either this or the Gallleria. It all hinges on my husband's long legs. Love your program! We are only a couple of hours away.
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful for you
@peggyconway2900
@peggyconway2900 2 жыл бұрын
My husband is 6’2 and fits fine in the Nova 20C. The rear bath model was tight for his legs in the driver seat
@havingfunatthis
@havingfunatthis 2 жыл бұрын
@@peggyconway2900 Thank you, Peggy. That is very helpful.
@amymayfield4496
@amymayfield4496 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! These videos really help!
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge Жыл бұрын
Gald you find them useful Amy
@kingdavidcoffee
@kingdavidcoffee 2 жыл бұрын
Stellar presentation unlike any I have seen. Nice job for both you and Coachman.
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you like the “Scott Score” tours. Have done a couple with more coming !
@suefletcher6688
@suefletcher6688 2 жыл бұрын
Love the worksheet decision making model. Spot on!
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you like it Sue !
@erickessen5237
@erickessen5237 2 жыл бұрын
This one is on my short list also. No one ever talks about the water tanks capacity on these vans but to me ; how much fresh water I can take on board and how large or small the black and grey tanks are is very important ! Having all the hookups outside and larger capacity tanks than the Travatos is what would make me pull the trigger on this one . I don't want to have to open the back doors to hook up city water etc.. ! 2019 and older Travatos were better in that regard as far as I'm concerned but coachmen still carries more fresh water . I will be doing a lot of boondocking in remote places and you never have enough fresh water on those adventures .Great job grading that van. PS : You are right . It does need a second lagun table in the back.
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Eric. Thx for your points. My onboard 18 gallons of fresh water combined with 6 gallon of portable water in “garage storage” last me (solo) about 7-10 days. I use onboard for sink and toilet first supplementing portable for drinking. Easier to fill portable water storage.
@timkarcher6724
@timkarcher6724 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree. The capacity of tanks on the Nova with mid bath are the best I’ve seen on a class B.
@willibce1
@willibce1 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing/telling and scoring this bro 🙌🏾🙌🏾
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it Jade !
@cheriduchrow1089
@cheriduchrow1089 2 жыл бұрын
Great review using the Scott score. Like that Great room and big fridge.
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Cheri !
@MT-un5xq
@MT-un5xq 2 жыл бұрын
Regarding storage, you could stow a cat box or dog kennel in the bathroom? Also that sink could hold some of your toiletries. As far as hand washing, use the kitchen sink?
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
No room in the Nova 20C bathroom for stowing cat box, dog kennel or a grill. Sorry M T
@BA_in_Saratoga
@BA_in_Saratoga 2 жыл бұрын
Scott, love to see a Scott Score on the Embassy Dolphin S (Traveler)
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmmm.
@BA_in_Saratoga
@BA_in_Saratoga 2 жыл бұрын
@@gosmall.livelarge Meet up this weekend. What better time? I am waiting for my Dolphin S (end of this this year) and not changing my mind, but would love to hear your review, especially with some of the new changes
@lorijo5536
@lorijo5536 2 жыл бұрын
I love your videos and reviews. I swear I’m going to take your RN shopping with me. Well, maybe driving/traveling too. 😝
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Lori Jo !
@6JWB9
@6JWB9 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for your honest review. I just bought a 2024 Coachmen Nova 20D with Pop Top and now eagerly awaiting my pick-up date in two weeks.
@NFL1976
@NFL1976 Ай бұрын
How do you like your Nova 20D with pop up? Although I would not require the pop-up, wondering about how the van handles, and parks in a supermarket space, that kind of thing. Looks like a great way for seniors to get around. A big congratulations to you! -Tim
@6JWB9
@6JWB9 Ай бұрын
@@NFL1976 Sure, here’s my honest review... I flew from New York to Texas in late April 2024 to purchase a brand new 2024 Coachmen Nova 20D with a pop-top. However, I regretted the purchase from the first day I drove it home. I reported the issues to Coachmen and tried to contact the service centers they recommended for warranty service, but none of them responded. Fortunately, I found a Forest River authorized RV service center in my area through Google, and I have a service appointment scheduled for July 9th. The problems I've encountered so far are as follows, and I don't know what other issues might arise in the future: 1. The pop-top has been leaking water since day one. 2. The shower curtain track was not installed when I picked it up, so Coachmen sent the curtain track parts, and I had to install it myself at home. 3. The induction cooktop shows an E-1 error and doesn't work. 4. The roof window bug screen won't retract properly. 5. The A/C only works when connected to shore power and only on cool and high mode; it doesn't work while driving or when parked without shore power. 6. The generator doesn't turn on from the control unit panel. 7. Last week, I received a recall notice from the NHTSA stating that the solar panel may detach from the pop-top roof. In addition to the leak, the pop-top is very difficult to open and close (that's why you won't find any videos of the pop-top version being opened or closed on RV KZfaq channels). It feels heavy to lift! Also, the space in the pop-top is very limited in height, making it suitable only for sleeping, not for sitting. However, I really love the exterior look and interior finish quality of the Coachmen Nova. One thing I truly miss is a roof fan. It would be great to have a MaxFan for quick air circulation, after using the bathroom or cooking but there isn't one because it's the pop-top version. I had planned to travel the West Coast this summer. However, after a few local day trips as test runs, I have no confidence in taking a long road trip with the Coachmen RV. Due to all these issues with my brand new Coachmen RV, I will not recommend Coachmen in the future. 😔
@6JWB9
@6JWB9 Ай бұрын
@@NFL1976 Sure, here’s my honest review... I flew from New York to Texas in late April 2024 to purchase a brand new 2024 Coachmen Nova 20D with a pop-top. However, I regretted the purchase from the first day I drove it home. I reported the issues to Coachmen and tried to contact the service centers they recommended for warranty service, but none of them responded. Fortunately, I found a Forest River authorized RV service center in my area through Google, and I have a service appointment scheduled for July 9th. The problems I've encountered so far are as follows, and I don't know what other issues might arise in the future: 1. The pop-top has been leaking water since day one. 2. The shower curtain track was not installed when I picked it up, so Coachmen sent the curtain track parts, and I had to install it myself at home. 3. The induction cooktop shows an E-1 error and doesn't work. 4. The roof window bug screen won't retract properly. 5. The A/C only works when connected to shore power and only on cool and high mode; it doesn't work while driving or when parked without shore power. 6. The generator doesn't turn on from the control unit panel. 7. Last week, I received a recall notice from the NHTSA stating that the solar panel may detach from the pop-top roof. In addition to the leak, the pop-top is very difficult to open and close (that's why you won't find any videos of the pop-top version being opened or closed on RV KZfaq channels). It feels heavy to lift! Also, the space in the pop-top is very limited in height, making it suitable only for sleeping, not for sitting. However, I really love the exterior look and interior finish quality of the Coachmen Nova. One thing I truly miss is a roof fan. It would be great to have a MaxFan for quick air circulation, after using the bathroom or cooking but there isn't one because it's the pop-top version. I had planned to travel the West Coast this summer. However, after a few local day trips as test runs, I have no confidence in taking a long road trip with the Coachmen RV. Due to all these issues with my brand new Coachmen RV, I will not recommend Coachmen in the future.
@6JWB9
@6JWB9 Ай бұрын
@@NFL1976 Sure, here’s my honest review... I flew from New York to Texas in late April 2024 to purchase a brand new 2024 Coachmen Nova 20D with a pop-top. However, I regretted the purchase from the first day I drove it home. I reported the issues to Coachmen and tried to contact the service centers they recommended for warranty service, but none of them responded. Fortunately, I found a Forest River authorized RV service center in my area through Google, and I have a service appointment scheduled for July 9th. The problems I've encountered so far are as follows, and I don't know what other issues might arise in the future: 1. The pop-top has been leaking water since day one. 2. The shower curtain track was not installed when I picked it up, so Coachmen sent the curtain track parts, and I had to install it myself at home. 3. The induction cooktop shows an E-1 error and doesn't work. 4. The roof window bug screen won't retract properly. 5. The A/C only works when connected to shore power and only on cool and high mode; it doesn't work while driving or when parked without shore power. 6. The generator doesn't turn on from the control unit panel. 7. Last week, I received a recall notice from the NHTSA stating that the solar panel may detach from the pop-top roof. In addition to the leak, the pop-top is very difficult to open and close (that's why you won't find any videos of the pop-top version being opened or closed on RV KZfaq channels). It feels heavy to lift! Also, the space in the pop-top is very limited in height, making it suitable only for sleeping, not for sitting. However, I really love the exterior look and interior finish quality of the Coachmen Nova. One thing I truly miss is a roof fan. It would be great to have a MaxFan for quick air circulation, after using the bathroom or cooking but there isn't one because it's the pop-top version. I had planned to travel the West Coast this summer. However, after a few local day trips as test runs, I have no confidence in taking a long road trip with the Coachmen RV. Somehow my initial reply is now showing, so reposted my honest review of my Nova w/ pop-top.
@6JWB9
@6JWB9 Ай бұрын
@@NFL1976 It seems like my honest review keep getting deleted because they are negative... I just wanted to share my honest experience with people who are considering buying Coachmen Nova w/ pop-top in the future...
@bkelley1979
@bkelley1979 2 жыл бұрын
Great format, people will love the details! 👏👏👏💪😎🇺🇲
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you like :)
@timkarcher6724
@timkarcher6724 Жыл бұрын
Scott I think the point you docked because of the separate black and gray dump is a little harsh. It does have a black tank flush and the largest black water capacity in any class b I’ve seen. 19 gal of black.
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge Жыл бұрын
Appreciate your sharing your personal experience with your Camper Van systems Tim !
@judy6416
@judy6416 2 жыл бұрын
You can add a storage box on the hitch or storage rack with totes
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
That is an idea to stow/carry stuff
@AJourneyOfYourSoul
@AJourneyOfYourSoul 2 жыл бұрын
Very practical way to grade the spaces. Your experience living in a class b definitely shows. My only suggestion is you should incorporate carrying capacity into the score. Please show the CCC on the yellow sticker, carrying capacity matters, especially in a class b.
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ajoys. I made the worksheet so you can score your own criteria. Please add those element to your Scott Score !!
@277kne
@277kne 2 жыл бұрын
Scott I'm sure you are familiar with different and limited floor plans in a Class B van. There are other manufacturers with the same layout but might have some things in different locations. And the same floor plan on a different chassis, van. Could you do a comparison? Maybe on a different van such as a Sprinter,the bathroom would be a little larger. There are few with the front seat and table like yours.
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Great idea. Thx for wathcing and commenting
@sfields6903
@sfields6903 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for an awesome thorough scoring system and review. We have a 20c Li3 on order and even though we’ve been in one, your measurements and comments are very useful. We are holding out for a 22 chassis and 23 unit so may b a while but this info is really really useful!! Appreciate your efforts!
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you found it helpful. Congrats on your 20c on order
@EKMGWats
@EKMGWats Жыл бұрын
I am just finding your channel - great review!!! Love the dinner plates - where from?
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge Жыл бұрын
Welcome to Go Small. Live Large! Thrilled you are here. Plates are by HydroFlask. Did you see this video I did staying in a parking lot Urban Camping, kzfaq.info/get/bejne/esedgsSD1LrXYIU.html
@audiesanchez2984
@audiesanchez2984 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Scott. Keep 'em coming.
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Yep!
@horizon42q
@horizon42q 2 ай бұрын
Scott, this helped me a lot. I value your opinion. We might buy this model as a second RV.
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 24 күн бұрын
Thank you for watching
@BeyondtheFern
@BeyondtheFern 2 жыл бұрын
I changed up the bedding setup in my Beyond, so that I can have a living space during the day. Went from using a Beddy and keeping the bed made up (day bed during the day) to using a Duvalay and putting the seat back up during the day - gained a foot of space. It does mean having to make up the bed each night - class Bs mean trade-offs lol!! So for that floorplan Nova C and Beyond C, the duvalay makes a great option. It's comfortable and easy to roll up and store behind the seat during the day.
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing your expereince Theresa! Very valuable.
@sgtzilla58
@sgtzilla58 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, this review was spectacular, no one comes close .
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Hooray !
@lisam3869
@lisam3869 2 жыл бұрын
Love tour refrigerator criteria. There is so much you could do to make that bathroom better. A nautilus door for instance. A bit of a garage would be nice too. Maybe make the bed/couch a smidge higher?
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
great points Lisa
@kayroosa609
@kayroosa609 2 жыл бұрын
Love this Class B van, love your scoring system and I agree with all your comments. Thanks for making and sharing another great informative video. Also thanks for the shoot out to the military.
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the video. You can create your own Scott Score criteria using the template… gosmalllivelarge.com/shopping-toolkit-workshee
@kayroosa609
@kayroosa609 2 жыл бұрын
@@gosmall.livelarge I will next time I go out and check out class B’s in the future.
@charlescartwright71
@charlescartwright71 2 жыл бұрын
I like the Nova 20 C . Travato doesn't offer this floor plan. I also consider the firefly system to be a great feature. The genny (Onan QG 2800 i )can be programmed for various demands and has an auto start feature (for one's furry friends, etc.). I've read about too many failures of the new all battery systems to totally rely on them with out a generator. Therefore, I would go with the non lithium version (saving $10,000 plus) and add my own lithium battery system later.
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Charlie. Failures of high-end lithium systems? Hmmm…
@pamelataylor8789
@pamelataylor8789 2 жыл бұрын
Please do the Beyond rear bath and the D. Would really be interested to see measurements on the D’s bathroom.
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge Жыл бұрын
Thx Pam
@vipadar1
@vipadar1 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for your review. I think you were pretty generous. I watched a review on coachman. And I wasn't impressed on the way. They wrothey rushed. I'm putting things together. Meaning they're electrical. I wish you would have done something like when the air conditioner. It made coffee at the same time. Also they could have used The space in the bathroom much better
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@harmony2225
@harmony2225 Жыл бұрын
Very well, I accept!
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge Жыл бұрын
Very good
@Graymanvanlife
@Graymanvanlife 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all of those great well-thought-out ,thorough vids. I think the travato stills reigns supreme.
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge Жыл бұрын
Hi Rodney
@TrishBenedict
@TrishBenedict 2 жыл бұрын
It’s very smart and well thought out. The closet/pantry areas actually look usable. I’m not sure what the engineering decisions were for taking up an *entire* overhead storage area for the electronics and gauges and such. Travato manages to do it on the wall and not use up valuable storage space, but I’m not gonna second guess engineering decisions and systems and what lies behind that storage area. Could be a ton of electronic spaghetti and control boxes. Still and all, though, there’s a lot of storage in this. And I love the bathroom - much more than a Travato G‘s. And if you want a second bed for a smaller person, you could get one of those inflatable ones that they sell for the Solis that go across the cab seats. I like it!
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Trish !!
@immostlyharmless
@immostlyharmless 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Scott! These reviews are quite helpful! It must be "the new math": there is NO garage storage (a typical trade-off for rear couch floorplans?), yet you gave the Nova a full six points for storage!? (And yes, I agree there is fantastic storage for smaller items and that the cabinetry is stunning!) Also, I recognize that these are your criteria and that you have set this up so that each of us can develop our own criteria; nevertheless, an RV is a vehicle; is it just my eyes, or is it the case that the bath is so far forward that the driver's seat can not be both full aft travel and a reasonable amount of recline? (For me, if the driving position isn't comfortable, that is an absolute deal breaker).
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you like the Scott Score videos. Thx for your comments
@Davefromcanada411
@Davefromcanada411 2 жыл бұрын
I loved this way to rate the a van!
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Thx David. If you’re shopping for a Camper Van, create your own criteria using the Toolkit & Worksheet … gosmalllivelarge.com/shopping-toolkit-workshee
@annanne3929
@annanne3929 2 жыл бұрын
If solo, the passenger area (seat, floorboard, etc.) is available for storage.
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Agree with you Ann Anne.. but not for bulky items I do not think
@BrittMFH
@BrittMFH Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I'd forgotten about that area. I've heard of people putting litter boxes there.
@jasonlucas2328
@jasonlucas2328 2 жыл бұрын
Scott, I really like this video; good approach to evaluating an RV. I would add two more categories. Category 1 electrical systems, whether I can use USB outlets or 12V without turning on the invertor. Does it have a charging alternator to use the AC even for a short while? Category 2, four seasons, can I drive the RV to go skiing without fear that the black tank may explode. Good job! 👍👍👍!!!
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Yes please use the worksheet to creat your own criteria. Four season is not important to me. gosmalllivelarge.com/shopping-toolkit-workshee
@rfleming7883
@rfleming7883 2 жыл бұрын
Fine review as an experienced class b owner could provide. I do like the wood work, cabinets and good taste exhibited in this van. Quality materials throughout. I am not sure about the electric bed in the back as my tendency is to go with something like the Thor A model class b's. With those, the rear bed folds down and is probably a lot easier to set up and the end of a travel day. Again, good review and i hope to see more from you.
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Thx R Fleming !
@dresden374
@dresden374 2 жыл бұрын
Great show!
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you like!
@snowbirdlady8496
@snowbirdlady8496 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for such a great tour of this unit. It has a couple nice points, but for my use too many deal breakers! I think the bathroom is a very poor design for multiple reasons, don't like a bed I have to mess with every day, kitchen sink is too small to do dishes, no exterior storage is the biggest problem. I question the plexiglass windows. Easily scratched?
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge Жыл бұрын
Awning windows are awesome. Some scratched probably, but worth it
@17655460
@17655460 2 жыл бұрын
Lots of value in these vids!
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate your Tom. Thx for commenting
@justme-ll8qs
@justme-ll8qs 2 жыл бұрын
hubby saw this plan and loved the layout. we can't wait to watch this video! I'm very curious if the Lithium package is good. We are the family with 3 adults and dog traveling to dog events. Finding out that there is a Luno air mattress for the front is a game changer
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Full walkthrough video is here, JustMe… kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p82geMWmsdiRdJc.html
@dwoodygura
@dwoodygura 2 жыл бұрын
Very good review with real world examples of what makes it liveable. From looking at the recent Travato price sheet on the 2023 with 2022 chassis, it looks like the new chassis will add about $13k to price. I think it's worth it. Were the cushions comfortable when you laid down? Scott you need to get an icemaker to take along!
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Cushions were comfortable. Glad you like the Scott Score videos !
@eugeniamurray-mcginnis6453
@eugeniamurray-mcginnis6453 2 жыл бұрын
This video was exactly what I needed! I love the floor plan but would it work for us? You were able to answer that. Thank you!
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Happy to help get your #vanlife journey on !
@horizon42q
@horizon42q 2 ай бұрын
Scott, I Just bought a new Nova 20C Li 3 at 40% off MSRP. What do you think????
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 24 күн бұрын
Good job
@lynnknight3652
@lynnknight3652 2 жыл бұрын
Love my Li3 and Aventa, however Firefly, Coachmen and Truma are having an issue getting the Aventa and Firefly to work together, the remote will control the AC but there is no thermostat connected so it is either off or on. Still love it just a little inconvenient.
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Lynn. Time will likely resolve issues hopefully. You have a great camper van !
@lynnknight3652
@lynnknight3652 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I love it and as far as brushing your teeth and spitting I have found if you sit on the toilet the angle for spitting is better. 😂
@patheffernan754
@patheffernan754 2 жыл бұрын
Storage possible on the roof with convenient ladder configuration
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, Pat. But getting things off the roof is way more hassle then one would think.
@cathysupp9493
@cathysupp9493 2 жыл бұрын
Simply add a gear box for bulky stuff (that isn't dogs/cats/pets) lack of garage storage can be solved Wish it came with a Volta system
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Yes of Volta. Not a big fan of exterior boxes and baskets to store yet more STUFF. Hi Cathy !
@magooracing
@magooracing 2 жыл бұрын
There is a tiny bathroom storage, you can put your shampoo and stuff in the sink! :)
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Okay 👌
@creinicke1000
@creinicke1000 Жыл бұрын
I get lagoon table is small.. but I prefer small one..best if it was able to open up to be bigger for eating for 2. Are there options for a fold out one?
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge Жыл бұрын
Not that I am aware of ..
@stevenstark5650
@stevenstark5650 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. We were wondering, what do you mean by "wrapping" the RV? We are also wondering what is the distance below the generator on a non-lithium Nova 20C? Thanks!
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Steven. Appreicate your comment. I wrapped my Winnebago Travato with a vinyl “sticker’ turning it from a standard silver Promaster van to a one-of-a-kind-on-earth Camper Van. Cost $5K, and will do it again on my next van. No clue on distance as that rig did not have a generator
@timkarcher6724
@timkarcher6724 Жыл бұрын
Are there brush guards that work with the lane keep assist, adaptive cruise sensors? I would think you would have to be very carful not to interfere with sensors
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge Жыл бұрын
No personal experience with that as my Promaster does not have that function. I prefer to travel the back roads VS freeways, so adaptive cruise would not matter anyway . Thx for watching !
@coach299
@coach299 2 жыл бұрын
We don't us plates that large. By using a smaller plate that table will work just fine.
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm I politely disagree, Even with smaller plates the table set for two to enjoy a meal together = not fun. Maybe you have the Nova 20C and can coach me and others ?
@canedawg3536
@canedawg3536 Жыл бұрын
Scott on that back bed, Can it be slightly reclined or is it all or nothing? Thx for your help deciding, a year or two out but never to early to learn.
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge Жыл бұрын
The power sofa bed can recline I think
@FMTFXE22
@FMTFXE22 2 жыл бұрын
An unusual question for you. Are there any Class B vans that can be towed behind another RV, class C or A? Best scenario would be a van with a driveshaft disconnect so that it can be towed flat on all fours without using a transmission pump.
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
I do not know on your question. I have zero experience with that type of scenario
@edmor127
@edmor127 2 жыл бұрын
I think you forgot to score it based on Driving the Unit.....things like MPG...driving confort....acsessability....maintenance...etc....
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
A A … didnt forget at all. Those are not MY criteria for a van. that is why I provided a Worksheet for you to determine your “Scott Score” criteria to judge a van.. gosmalllivelarge.com/van-shopping-toolkit Thx for commenting
@kevinhenry177
@kevinhenry177 Жыл бұрын
I’m just wondering if that new nine speed transmission gets any better miles per gallon? I was thinking about getting this particular RV, but I’m leery of this new nine speed transmission the first year it’s out in the pro master. Also what are the pros and cons for the Winnebago Travato, versus coachman Nova 20 C?
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge Жыл бұрын
Hi Kevin. Haven’t tried the new transmission on Promaster. Pros n Cons on those two brands… I have done a couple of videos on that. Please search my YT Channel for those videos. go see them at the dealers too. Here is a video… kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bbedbMZl0uCUqWg.html on the Nova
@havingfunatthis
@havingfunatthis 2 жыл бұрын
Scott, When you are looking at the van, would youu please check the clearance underneath? Thank you!
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Howdy The Kidd… your wish is my command. Ground Clearance is the first criteria on the Scott Score of a van.
@havingfunatthis
@havingfunatthis 2 жыл бұрын
@@gosmall.livelarge Thank you, Scott!
@sharonwysocki8412
@sharonwysocki8412 2 жыл бұрын
I want only a twin bed! It is only me.
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Travato 59G(L) in your future then !?
@timkarcher6724
@timkarcher6724 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll be interested in this. This one is on my short list. What does your Travato GL score?
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Tim. Nova is a sweet rig. Travato 59GL (prior to 2022) coming soon
@One6pack
@One6pack 2 жыл бұрын
Instead of a top possible score of 99 make it an even 100 with an additional one point--- does the van have 4 separate areas.
@larkendelvie
@larkendelvie 2 жыл бұрын
Thanx Scott - One question I had was if the bed is sleepable crosswise since I believe the Nova is in a Ram Promaster?
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Nova is on the Promaster chassis, the widest of the three van chassis. So, if one could fit that way it could be an option
@jeffreyblanding2623
@jeffreyblanding2623 2 жыл бұрын
Scott, If you come south to Pinellas County, Clearwater, let me treat you to lunch or dinner. Get a hold of me ... Jeffrey
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your lovely invitation. Be in FL again around end of year probably
@selenanv859
@selenanv859 2 жыл бұрын
Would a litter box fit in front of the passenger seat (if traveling solo)?
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Litter box for kitty would not fit in the cab of the Promaster.
@johnyang1420
@johnyang1420 2 жыл бұрын
I guess for some….the point of these RVs is to ditch the house and apartment. Nova 20C seems small for full timing though.
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
For some, you are correct. But for most I think folks just want a simpler and slower way to travel using a Camper Van
@steveross2280
@steveross2280 2 жыл бұрын
How long will lithium batteries run the AC (In Florida)?
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Steve. Not sure about the Nova 20C, but in my Travato 59GL using my Volta lithium system with a 8,600 watt storage battery I routinely get the A/C running on a single charge of 10-12 hours in a comfy interior
@RollosReviews
@RollosReviews Жыл бұрын
I did a lithium power test for my Nova 20C Li3 and got about 4.5 hours with a very long recharge rate. The video is up on my channel. The Coachmen brochure states 10 hrs of AC runtime* and Nick stated in an interview I did with him (also on my channel if you are curious) that it should do 8 hours minimum in 80-90 degree weather with sun and humidity included. I have unfortunately not seen numbers anywhere close to this.
@marielarrison101
@marielarrison101 Жыл бұрын
Come on, it's a 20ft Class B not a 30 ft Class C or travel trailer. So, yeah there are going to be compromises in some areas. I think this would be a perfectly acceptable 2 person rig. It's not a family coach and isn't intended to be.
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge Жыл бұрын
Thx Marie
@kenplummer4644
@kenplummer4644 2 жыл бұрын
Is there enough room for your spirits????
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yes :)
@jeanroeder5534
@jeanroeder5534 6 ай бұрын
I like the Nova, I just don’t want the length. My Silos Pocket is the ideal length for me as a single traveler. I have no interest in a shower with in my van as I prefer to have a membership at planet fitness.
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@johnyang1420
@johnyang1420 2 жыл бұрын
What score did Travato 59GL get? 92?
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Planning that video. !
@jacobsmithjr
@jacobsmithjr 2 жыл бұрын
Does rear bench have seat belts?
@jsimpson4338
@jsimpson4338 2 жыл бұрын
Just got a Nova 20C, non-lithium. It has 3 sets of seat belts for the rear seat.
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
I believe it did
@r.c.7762
@r.c.7762 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, are you going to get another cat?
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
My next pet are SEA MONKEYS … www.sea-monkeys.com
@r.c.7762
@r.c.7762 2 жыл бұрын
@@gosmall.livelarge Scott, at least they won't run away, lol.
@joyanders3968
@joyanders3968 2 жыл бұрын
Personally I would get horrible neck aches from the angle of the TV viewing. 0 points there.
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Thx Joy
@151mcx
@151mcx Жыл бұрын
The bathroom is a huge waste of space in this van. The toilet looks uncomfortable to use (for me), No storage in the bathroom, and the bed, would get super old to make it up every day, Plus no storage in the garage, well, actually no garage for the grill or a kayak (folding) or tools. That is a huge no-no. Terrible floorplan for me, and the solar panels are flat ones, who know how many watts they are, but they aren't the traditional solar ... I'd give this van 50 points, the fridge is great, sink-in the galley is small, the induction cooktop, I prefer to cook with gas. But I suppose it would be ok. So... Yeah, 50 points. So the pros would be, a lithium battery, fridge, and awesome cabinets and drawers... Excellent walkable floorplan but I'd rather have the Winnebago 59K. Than this.
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge Жыл бұрын
Thx Eric
@CliffordStaley
@CliffordStaley 4 ай бұрын
This is not very useful. All the stuff you mentioned is something that can be changed. Plates? Dining, what is important T is how the van drives. Nobody and I mean nobody discusses, passing, uphill, handling parking backing up, wind, bumps etc.
@leslietolmie4184
@leslietolmie4184 2 жыл бұрын
Coachmen is my least favorite, bad use of space and the use of heavy wood.
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
Okay !
@AP-cq1mh
@AP-cq1mh 2 жыл бұрын
terrible sound the noise is terrible the a/c sucks
@gosmall.livelarge
@gosmall.livelarge 2 жыл бұрын
You are right Angelo. Thx for sticking through it, if you did.
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