That's awfully arbitrary praise considering how little is known about the language.

Actually we do know quite a lot of it: there are very large parts of the Gospels in Gothic, parts of the Pauline Epistels, the Skeireins fragments, the Bologna fragments… which is a very decent corpus of about 3400 attested words. If you compare that to other extinct Germanic languages like Lombardic, Vandalic or Bourgondic, I think we know a lot about Gothic. There are even people translating news articles into Gothic on airushimmadaga.wordpress.com/

I expect if you traveled Europe searching you actually could find some folks who still can speak this language and know how it is pronounced. Think about it. Why not?

While I'm a fan of resurrecting dead languages, who would speak it? The Goths are long gone.

No they're not.... Most of them just turned into Romanians, Moldovans, Bulgarians and Spaniards.

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It may be due to the excess accents that were included in that particular print, but normally, most Gothic words with ai and au diphthongs do not have accent on the a and i vowels, from what I have seen so far, and the words on Wkp don’t usually have accents either - Norse / Gothic / Icelandic / Faroese / English / Dutch / Norwegian are the prettiest languages ever created! But some of the pronunciation rules and spelling seem a bit off, for example, ei is pronounced like a normal i sound in Gothic, so the e sound isn’t pronounced, and, there really is no reason for an accent to be on every a and í of the diphthongs au and ai, which are normally pronounced o and e in most Gothic words, as those are normally diphthongs with one-vowel sound only, so I am not sure why this print had all the diphthongs with accents on those letters, like, the word wairþai is pronounced werthe! ! I am learning all these languages, and I highly recommend learning them 2gether - there should be many proper vocab videos with many hundreds and thousands of words in Gothic and Norse and the other Germanic languages that aren’t very known, in HD and very well-made (the type of videos that get millions of views) and, all the words should be included, and also, all sorts of videos on grammar and verbs and prepositions etc and many videos with examples of sentences, also made in HD, so that many can easily learn these languages in a fun way, same as one can learn very known languages such as English and Dutch in very entertaining ways because there are so many videos for them, which is the only way to bring back these ancient languages, as it’s not easy to learn them without many resources and videos etc on yt and G translate etc, so they should all be added to G translate and Duolingo and yt subtitles etc, as most learners wouldn’t really go through all the trouble to learn languages that don’t have many videos, though I am actually doing that, so I use every resource that I see on the Net to learn Gothic and Norse and Faroese etc, even though it’s not easy to learn languages without many vocab videos, and it definitely takes longer, so I am beginner level in Gothic at the moment, but I can understand a lot more than I know, due to knowing a lot of Norse and Icelandic, so this also helps a lot!

Very Interesting. I'm German and probably descand from the Goths from southern Sweden.

Maybe me too, My family has green eyes, I think it’s celtiberian, not very sure if it’s Visigoth

@@jatorresh eye color does not really define any of that, only way would be to trace lineages and surnames, which unless you're of noble origin, it's virtually impossible, however if your origins are in northern spain or southern france then very likely to have gothic ancestry, however celtic and roman is far more common since goths were a minority of some 500k in a land of 6 million

If you descend from the Spanish high nobility, your ancestors might have been Visigoths.

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Do you speak old English? If so, where did you learn it? I'd live to try.

Yeah. I do. I learned it mainly on my own but due to lack a sources I became a source so everyone can learn.

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There should definitely be a lot of resources like yt videos for learning all these ancient Germanic languages and also all the Modern Celtic languages with their Óld versions and Middle versions too - Norse / Gothic / Icelandic / Faroese / English / Dutch / Norwegian are the prettiest languages ever created, and the Celtic languages too, so they should be a priority for all that have the power to bring these languages back, by teaching them to true fluency, as the fact that there aren’t many HD vocab videos and many HD grammar videos and many HD entertaining videos for these languages doesn’t make it easy for others to learn these languages, but learners would learn them if there were as many entertaining HD videos for these languages as there are for the known ones like English and Dutch and German etc! But some of the pronunciation rules and spelling seem a bit off, for example, ei is pronounced like a normal i sound in Gothic, so the e sound isn’t pronounced, and, there really is no reason for an accent to be on every a and í of the diphthongs au and ai, which are normally pronounced o and e in most Gothic words, as those are normally diphthongs with one-vowel sound only, so I am not sure why this print had all the diphthongs with accents on those letters, like, the word wairþai is pronounced werthe! ! I am learning all these languages, and I highly recommend learning them 2gether - there should be many proper vocab videos with many hundreds and thousands of words in Gothic and Norse and the other Germanic languages that aren’t very known, in HD and very well-made (the type of videos that get millions of views) and, all the words should be included, and also, all sorts of videos on grammar and verbs and prepositions etc and many videos with examples of sentences, also made in HD, so that many can easily learn these languages in a fun way, same as one can learn very known languages such as English and Dutch in very entertaining ways because there are so many videos for them, which is the only way to bring back these ancient languages, as it’s not easy to learn them without many resources and videos etc on yt and G translate etc, so they should all be added to G translate and Duolingo and yt subtitles etc, as most learners wouldn’t really go through all the trouble to learn languages that don’t have many videos, though I am actually doing that, so I use every resource that I see on the Net to learn Gothic and Norse and Faroese etc, even though it’s not easy to learn languages without many vocab videos, and it definitely takes longer, so I am beginner level in Gothic at the moment, but I can understand a lot more than I know, due to knowing a lot of Norse and Icelandic, so this also helps a lot!

Still, if one is willing to go through the trouble of learning the ancient Germanic languages without many HD videos and getting started on one’s own (until many HD videos / resources etc are made) I would suggest trying to see if there are dictionaries on the Net that have English translations, plus I also highly recommend learning from lyrics, because luckily there are many lyrics in many of the ancient Germanic languages such as Norse and Gothic and Óld English etc, and they usually have a lot of different words, so it’s a great way to start learning the first few thousands of words, and I noticed that Wkp also has these pages with many of the words in many of these languages that usually have the declensions for nouns and adjectives and the verb conjugations, so I use it a lot to learn the different forms of the base words - I am one of the few learners who are learning these languages that way, even without many resources, so I can say that if one is determined to learn these heavenly languages, one can get to a near-fluency level by doing all these things and by learning as many thousands of words as possible automatically, by revising a lot previously learnt words, while still learning many hundreds and thousands of new words regularly, and I recommend learning multiple ancient Germanic languages at the same time, including Norse and Gothic and Icelandic which are the most alpha languages ever, 2gether with Óld English and Proto Germanic and Middle English and any of the other ones, and Dutch / Norwegian / Faroese etc, as learning many pretty languages is a lot more fun, plus it can save many years, as it’s going to take at least a few years to become fluent, regardless of whether one is learning only one pretty language or multiple pretty languages! (I am advanced level in Icelandic and Norwegian Bokmål, upper intermediate level in Norse and German, upper advanced level in Dutch, writer level in English, native speaker level in Spanish, mid intermediate level in Welsh / Swedish / Portuguese / French / Italian, beginner level in Faroese / Gothic / Danish / Breton / Cornish / Manx / Irish / Scottish Gaelic / Hungarian / Galician / Latin / Gallo / Nynorsk / Slovene / Latvian etc, and learning languages has been my favorite hobby, ever since I discovered it!)

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the Huns spoke Hun fym lol

michael cevallos They spoke both HUNNIC and Gothic to some extent. The empire was vast.

Skyrilla ah i didnt know thx

Skyrilla Maybe Gothic was lingua Franca, the pan-European language of all the educated classes?

oooooooooh okay my bad I ain't know lmao

Very interesting that both lithuanian and swedes can understand part of it!!!How much Swedish and Lithuanian is mutual intelligible?

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+Milton Velez It's the book I used to learn Gothic, couldn't recommend it more highly.

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I might try to learn some Gothic. I speak several foreign languages, some well, some not so well. When reading about J.R.R. Tolkien, I noticed that he had been amazed to discover a Gothic grammar,. Amazing, especially when you consider how long ago it was spoken, and how unlikely it was that non-classical languages would be preserved back then. For example, how much of the Celtic languages are preserved from the 1st century B.C.? Looking at the wikipedia page on Gothic, it reminds me grammatically of Latin. There were also a couple of reminders of Anglo-Saxon.

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If you might be interested, I have a class in my virtual academy where we compare texts in these languages in detail.

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Hmm, the northwestern area of Poland (now Poland) was known as Gothiscandza in roman times, and the origin stories originate in Scandanavia. Also German moved north to south...so maybe the explanation is that the Gothic language left Scandanavia far far earlier and that explains its closer relationship to High german. So the northern germanic languages had more innovation and high german less then Gothic the least (a guess...)

I have my doubts about the Crimean goths speaking a language descended from gothic. They could've had a gothic identity and spoken another language that was related to german.

Or maybe Gothic is germanic voculabulary with a baltic-slavic substrate...I could make up all kinds of theories in the absence of evidence. :)

Utterly false, the Goths originated from Scandinavia, to be more specific Sweden/Denmark. That they ventured further down in Europe later does not mean that they did not come from today's Sweden/Denmark from the beginning. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6taland

no proof of that, actually quite the opposite

Isn't it?

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This is correct, most modern Gothic scholar accept monothongs.

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Brynnan Robbins What makes it East Germanic. Is that based on geographical or linguistic criteria?

ghenulo Both. It is linguistically different, firstly. Secondly, the Germanic peoples at one time inhabited lands in Poland and other eastern regions of Europe, but have since been pushed out of those regions by Slavic expansion and the nomadic invasions during Roman and late medieval times. There were Goths living in Crimea as late as the 15th-16th centuries. The Eastern Germanic language branch today is extinct, though. Eastern Germanic is considered a separate branch of the Germanic language family, thus there is a linguistic basis, but the Eastern Germanic languages were spoken in regions that have little or no Germanic language presence today, forming the geographic basis as well.

Brynnan Robbins I see. It's older and thus more complicated, but aside from the added complexities, it doesn't seem that much different to me.

It's not only older, Gothic shows also some innovations which make it different from West- and Nort-Germanic languages. Some examples: - Proto-Germanic final -z became -s in Gothic, -R in Old Norse and disappeared in the West-Germanic languages. - Gothic also has the sharpening of -jj- and -ww- to -ddj- and -ggw- respectively (in Old Norse the same sounds sharpened too, but therere -jj- changed to -ggj-). - Initial fl- changed to þl- in a number of Gothic words, whereas other Germanic languages kept fl-. - Gothic has a polysyllabic dental suffix beginning with -ded- in a number of preterite forms of the weak verbs. - Proto-Germanic e1 and e2 both became e in Gothic.

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After five years, you've surely progressed significantly in Dutch.

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There are few journeys of discovery as exciting as historical Germanic linguistics!

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Great question: the same thing happened, in a sense, when the Vikings settled down and became Normans. Don't know the answer.

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If I can think of anything more specific to respond, I generally do.

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Yegor Lyubkin yup

Wtf is Imperium of Man?

@@raphaelblackdolly9145 it's probably big chungus

@@raphaelblackdolly9145 Heresy!

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Can you help me when you say consonant shift what do you mean? thank you in advance.

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@@ProfASAr I commented 8 years ago. 😁 But you are welcome.

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Stop taking the mushrooms.

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represents "hw"

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Thank you for keeping this comment section alive! We would have to ask Ulfila's how he really sounded, wouldn't we?

@@ProfASAr Sometimes we can hazard a guess! For example, Alpheus is written as “Alfaios”, similar to Greek Ἀλφαῖος, which was pronounced /alfeos/… So it’s likely that the Gothic digraph is also a short /e/! Although it’s a little bit more difficult to guess the pronunciation of , as it’s derived from Proto-Germanic diphthong /ai/… So yeah, kind of a moot question, but interesting to explore nonetheless!

@@ChristianJiang If you find that interesting enough to explore, please do and I will be very interested in listening to your findings. My own main interest, though, is in understanding the text and how the language works.

@@ProfASAr I love your dedication. I had a look at your channel and it’s extremely impressive. I can’t imagine how knowledgeable you are! At this point, debates over small pronunciation details are only irrelevant trifles.

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