Elisjsha Dicken & the Probability of Long Shots. Massad Ayoob praises these Heroes. Critical Mas 50

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In July of 2022 at a mall in Greenwood Indiana, a 22 year old Elisjsha Dicken became a hero. He ended the killing spree of a lunatic by placing 8 of his 10 shots at 40 yards. That event sparked the Dicken drill, 10 shots at 40 yards in 10 seconds with a handgun. Was it a Black Swan event? Massad Ayoob gives other examples of long and precision shots taken by average American citizens throughout history. We honor these everyday American heroes such as Mr. Dicken, who had the training and courage to save many lives.
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Critical Mas(s) with Massad Ayoob is a show that provides expert analysis over a wide range of contemporaneous topics related to civilian and law enforcement self-defense, the use of force, and second amendment issues, provided by a renowned and established author with a career spanning decades in training law enforcement officers and the public at large, who is frequently called upon to provide expert witness testimony.
ABOUT MASSAD AYOOB:
Massad Ayoob has been handgun editor of GUNS magazine and law enforcement columnist for AMERICAN HANDGUNNER since the 1970s and has published thousands of articles in gun magazines, martial arts publications, and law enforcement journals. He is the author of some twenty books on firearms, self-defense, and related topics, including “In the Gravest Extreme” and “Deadly Force,” widely considered to be authoritative texts on the topic of the use of lethal force.
The winner of the Outstanding American Handgunner of the Year Award in 1998, Mas has won several state and regional handgun shooting championships. Ayoob was the first person to earn the title of Five Gun Master in the International Defensive Pistol Association. He is the current President of the Second Amendment Foundation. He served 19 years as chair of the Firearms Committee of the American Society of Law Enforcement Trainers, and several years as a member of the Advisory Board of the International Law Enforcement Educators and Trainers Association. In addition to teaching for those groups, he has also taught
for the International Association of Law Enforcement Firearms Instructors and the International Homicide Investigators seminars.
Mas has received judicial recognition as an expert witness for the courts in weapons and shooting cases since 1979, and served as a fully sworn and empowered, part-time police officer for 43 years, mostly at supervisor rank. Ayoob founded the Lethal Force Institute in 1981 and served as its director until 2009, and now trains through Massad Ayoob Group. He has
appeared on CLE-TV delivering continuing legal education for attorneys, through the American Law Institute and American Bar Association, and has been retained to train attorneys to handle deadly force cases through the Armed Citizens Legal Defense Network. Ayoob served for two
years as co-vice chair of the Forensic Evidence Committee of the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers. He also appeared in each episode of Personal Defense TV (Sportsman’s Channel).
0:00 - Elisjsha Dicken
1:05 - 40-Yard Shot
1:45 - Wild Bill Hickock
2:45 - Texas Tower Sniper
5:50 - Vic Stacy
7:40 - Jack Wilson
9:05 - American Heroes
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@keithharper1683 Жыл бұрын

I live in Greenwood, IN and recently Guy A. Relford, Mr. Dickens lawyer who has a radio show called The Gun Guy, told this story on the radio. The gun used was a Glock 19. Mr. Dickens upon hearing gunshots pushed his girlfriend to the floor, braced himself against a pillar and at 43 yards fired two rounds, stopped as people were running in front of him, then fired two more rounds. Advanced on the shooter while telling people to get behind him. He fired four more rounds at 20 yards, then advanced to 10 yards and fired his final rounds. The next day his lawyer met with him and asked the following questions; Mr. Relford “What professional training have you had?” Mr. Dickens “ None, my grandpa showed me how to shoot when I was 11 years old.” Mr. Relford “ How often do you practice at the range?” Mr. Dickens “Never” Mr. Relford “Did you have a Red Dot or modified sights?” Me. Dickens “ Kind of, a couple of weeks before the shooting I was riding my motorcycle and dropped it on the side I carry my gun, It ground most of the sights off of the slide.” I believe Mr. Dickens was touched by God that day.

@docgillygun9531 Жыл бұрын

That's my home mall as well. The unfortunate thing is the bad guys can be good shots too. God blessed a lot of people that day, and may he bless and guide the survivors, and the survivors of the fallen.

@rodvan-zeller6360 Жыл бұрын

No training, no sights, instinctive point shoot with forward pressure advancing on the criminal. This means that police training is completely wrong. Interestingly enough that Fairbairn and Applegate trained and taught exactly this way. I also learned this method from Paul Cale(Australian Commando close quarter combat instructor), a long time ago. Your primary weapon is your mind, a gun is an extension of your aggression.

@johnhalpin1847 Жыл бұрын

That's exactly what I was told and heard either way he was still a hero even with those shots and those distances.

@johnhalpin1847 Жыл бұрын

@@rodvan-zeller6360 Actually it your are the weapon and the mindset the firearm is just the tool.

@rodvan-zeller6360 Жыл бұрын

@@johnhalpin1847 Thank you for the reply

@naturallyhigh1 Жыл бұрын

Can't forget about Senior Airman Andy Brown who stopped an active shooter on Faichild AFB. Shooter was at the hospital on base and SrA Brown had to respond on his police bicycle, so he was already presumably tired on arrival. Brown made his shots at around 70 yards stopping the threat. Shoutout Andy Brown!

@roberthearn2908 Жыл бұрын

And a headshot at that!

@naturallyhigh1 Жыл бұрын

@@roberthearn2908 damn right!

@dalewalters357 Жыл бұрын

He did… he is a good humble guy! He would train when he was off duty and practice shooting out to 70+ yards.

@seniorp9444 Жыл бұрын

I remembered his story while watching the video. Incredible shots with the M9.

@Mike193Inf Жыл бұрын

4 rounds from 68-72 yards with an M9 Beretta. 2 misses, one shoulder hit, one right between the eyes. Amazing.

@Siskiyous6 Жыл бұрын

I learned to shoot with Smith and Wesson revolvers alone on our ranch as a teenager. It amazed me when I found out most people think a pistol's range is less than a shotguns.

@hoosierdaddy2308 Жыл бұрын

I also learned with revolvers originally. Model 13 smith in 357.. I used to shoot ground hogs at 50 yards regularly, but I shot single action and with a good rest. I've made shots past a 100 with the three inch barreled Smith here in Southern Indiana.. Pistol as just as accurate as any firearm if you can line up the sights correctly and pull the trigger well. It's the sight radius that makes them seem inaccurate to other firearms like rifles, but all things being equal, they're quite capable of shooting at longer ranges.

@bash4linux Жыл бұрын

As a retired Marine SNCO, we were required to qualify with a pistol from 7, 15, and 25 yards. 25 yards with a pistol is no joke. My hats off to these heroes.

@musicman1eanda Жыл бұрын

What was the accuracy standard for 25yds?

@US2A Жыл бұрын

I have to have a red dot a 25 yards to be consistent

@ScrappyXGC Жыл бұрын

Yea 25 is rough. We'll do 50 BUT only with a 22LR Ruger, ammo's gotten to damn expensive to be missing.

@Whiskey.Tango.Actual Жыл бұрын

As a former PMI, I agree. That's why I shoot steel at 100 yards routinely. Makes 25 seem easy.

@Osprey1994 Жыл бұрын

25 yards is indeed the point at which most people start to struggle. I can put 8/10 on a man sized steel target at 100 with irons but at that point I am honestly just setting my elevation and trying to make sure I don't pull left or right. Now with a dot it becomes MUCH easier to send those rounds in where you want them. Part of the reason why I decided to try the dot was because I felt that with the emergence of closed emitters I had something that I could trust, and would help me refine certain aspects of my shot. I was right, there were so many small imperfections that irons really won't show you unless you're on paper. Even if you don't use a dot on your carry in, a laser sighting system or a dot is so valuable for training.

@Mr_Snarky Жыл бұрын

Mas is a really good story-teller. Much enjoyed listening to him.

@762x69 Жыл бұрын

If I ever get the pleasure of running into the young man, a mandatory free beer offer is going to happen. Wild story and amazing work by Eli!

@danovichi Жыл бұрын

@@xtreme4stringbass Boy, I bet you're fun at parties.

@YouveBeenMiddled Жыл бұрын

Eli will never _have_ to pay for another meal in any diner in Indiana.

@scottphillips8265 Жыл бұрын

As my father pounded in my head as a young man. Shoot like you're life depends on it, train like you're life depends on, clean your weapon like you're life depends on. Know your target as well as beyond!

@mikeyob4271 Жыл бұрын

Well said friend.

@US2A Жыл бұрын

Cleaning is over rated

@richardthomas6602 Жыл бұрын

@@US2A until you wish you had.

@US2A Жыл бұрын

@@richardthomas6602 yeah? Cleaning after every range session lol. Once in a great while is fine and things still work.

@juddperson6110 Жыл бұрын

@@richardthomas6602 There's a mountain of evidence to support the idea that most people over clean their firearms. The act of cleaning itself puts wear on the parts, and a lot of professionals are beginning to recommend that you only clean your firearm every 2k-3k rounds. If it's your EDC firearm, and you're training with it like you should, that typically means you clean it once or twice a year.

@cashields4660 Жыл бұрын

Equal to or even more impressive to me than his rounds on target was his readiness and willingness in his mind to react in the defense of others. A true warrior.

@dangurtler7177 Жыл бұрын

That isn't an easy decision to make. Even if you are successful, you are likely to be dragged into court. Also recall the television news coverage of the event, much of which was negative and attempting to vilify Mr. Dicken.

@cashields4660 Жыл бұрын

@@dangurtler7177 not a decision to be made lightly but the decision to act or not should be decided yesterday.

@MW-od8vu Жыл бұрын

I always enjoy these little “fireside” chats with Mas. 😊

@ElkoCowboy888 Жыл бұрын

You take the shot your presented with. I would not want to expose myself to someone armed with a rifle. Dickens used a column as protection and a rest to make multiple accurate shots to stop the Threat. He did everything Right.

@timblackx13 Жыл бұрын

Awesome lil' presentation. Thanks Wilson Combat for videos like these, and a special thank you to Massad Ayoob for his perfect delivery as always. He's got an awesome voice that commands attention, you can't help but hear and listen to his every word. Again guys, great job and thank you!

@gowilsoncombat Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

@bobsnyder7831 Жыл бұрын

Being willing is the key.

@gymshoe8862 Жыл бұрын

I'm an amateur who practices regularly at a nearby gravel pit--the common distance is 30 to 80 YARDS. The targets are always pop cans we save for the occasion. I can hit pop cans at 50-80 yards--why? Because that is how I train. I don't do fast draw or other games but I'd feel comfortable with a 50 yard shot--I do it all the time. When we're finished shooting we pick up litter, brass (I handload) even other people's litter.

@gymshoe8862 Жыл бұрын

If asked how much professional training I've had, I'd have to say none..

@thenegociater3387 Жыл бұрын

Damn fine work. Most importantly, the state did not attempt to penalize this life saving act. Thank you.

@ridgerunner5772 Жыл бұрын

Yet... Those Blue Line Boys do NOT like the citizens playing their games of mag dump...

@KP-Pro2A Жыл бұрын

I think a nice EDC-X9 custom for him would be a nice way to show your appreciation…..😊

@danielkaczynski9702 Жыл бұрын

Mas! Many years ago, IIRC it was in American Handgunner, I read an article of yours in which you discussed this topic. I don't remember the details, but the gist of it was that a police officer was fired on by a criminal from a considerable distance ( I think it was 30 yards? Not sure, but anyway it was much farther than the usual 7 yards range practice. ) Fortunately the officer prevailed because of his superior marksmanship. It was after I read your article, I went to the range, set up 8 inch pie plates at 50 yards. and found that if I concentrated I could keep almost all of my shots on the pie plates. Ever since then, every time I go to the range I fire at least a couple of magazines worth of ammo at the maximum distance available ( which is usually only 25 yards on an indoor range. ) I have even found that going long with a pistol can actually be fun Thank you, Mas, for all the many great and informative articles you've written over the years and it is really great to see you on KZfaq!

@S1deshowRob Жыл бұрын

My best friend’s mom used to shop at Greenwood mall. It was very close to home. Eli Dicken is a chad and I’ll buy him a drink if I ever see him

@geralddeas2303 Жыл бұрын

You can feel the excitement .... waiting for Massad

@snicklefritz4209 Жыл бұрын

I love massad , he is a very intelligent and a wealth of firearm knowledge. Been watching him since I was a kid when my dad showed him too Me

@grigorirasputin5020 Жыл бұрын

Same here! The first Massad Ayoob article that I ever read, back in the early 1970's, was about the Winchester 158gr LSWCHP +P load, also known as "The FBI Load". It was a very well written article detailing at least two shootings with that load. In one, an undercover narc was taken hostage by a perp who had a gun pointed at his head. The perp was marching him down a hall, trying to get past police. When something distracted the perp, the narc drew his own .38 snub nose, turned it behind him, and fired. As I seem to recall, the round went through one or both of the bad guy's kidneys, incapacitating him instantly. Another story recounted that a visitor at a zoo got too close to a polar bear cage and was being mauled by the huge bear. A police officer rapped the bear on the snout with his baton, trying to make it release the man. When that didn't work, he fired one round into the bear which caused it to stiffen up and release the man. I believe the bear died, sadly. Still, amazing performance for any .38 special round. I was in my teens at the time and it would be a few years before I could find that round for sale. When I did, it was my carry round for many years.

@55Quirll Жыл бұрын

In the past, such heroes were honored, but today they are vilified - Dickens was shouted down because he violated the policy of the Mall against having a gun, forgetting the criminal had violated the same policy. It is sad what the government is doing to people who put themselves in harm's way to save others. Thank you for a very informative and historic video, the Austin Texas shooting I recall because I was 11 at the time, and the man in the church too. Again, thank you very much, and have a great day.

@KyleCowden Жыл бұрын

The amazing thing about the White Settlement church was, if you watch the tape was Jack Wilson gets the bead on center mass and _then_ goes to the head shot in a fraction of a second while moving himself. I always felt that he saw the congregants trying to move and in a decision you have to slow down to see, he adjusts aim and the shooter's head disappears. The one I wish you had used in illustrating this was GPD officer Greg Stevens. Terrorists with rifles showed up, opened fire and without cover, Stevens drew and took both down from something like 50'. A lot of reports say that other officers "finished" the fight (SWAT was posted on the other side) but watching the video, they were done and writhing around when the other "heroes" turned them off. Remarkable coolness and accuracy under fire. Wyatt Earp is reported as saying in the aftermath of his Kansas shootout, "Take your time in a hurry." Stevens did and countless lives were saved.

@lawrencehudson9939 Жыл бұрын

I was a bullseye target shooter for years where slow fire stages are 50 yards. That is a controlled environment with no one shooting at me and no adrenaline pumping through my body but having that experience of distant pistol shooting gives me an edge over many individuals. I wish more shooters practiced some at 50 yards.

@michaeledlin9995 Жыл бұрын

I shoot 45 ACP at 75 yds 7 out of 8 in a 10 inch target. Not easy but I can.

@Shadow63Wolf Жыл бұрын

I still shoot bullseye when I can though not in competition. I always have to laugh when people say you can't hit anything at more than 25 yards or some other short distance less than that because 50 yards is normal for outdoor pistol. Unfortunately indoor is 20 yards or less most of the time. For a recent CC class, I did a 100 8x with a 4 inch 9mm 1911, but they don't expect much for that and I think max was 7 yards. I've seen LEOs miss a silhouette at that distance. All those years of shooting precision means you developed all the right habits and you probably don't need to think about it much to shoot good. You'll fall back on those habits every time you shoot. I can also give a counter example of a guy who literally didn't care and though had a somewhat beginner score all the time, he could actually shoot decent if being coached and reminded to do things correctly. His bad habits and poor attitude prevented him from being good. Being a better shooter wasn't fun for him.

@shooterqqqq Жыл бұрын

@@Shadow63Wolf We teach someone like that. He doesn't have a bad attitude toward us but he doesn't learn anything. He joins us for a social club. We're trying to be better. As soon as this guy leaves the range, he admittedly forgets everything that was said or taught. We actually have to start all over again with him. There is a complete absence of muscle memory. I stopped helping but a patient, Ex FBI instructor is still trying to help.

@M4v3rick28 Жыл бұрын

Even on my three closest outdoor ranges they don't go past 20 yards...I have to sweet talk the RSO to let me practice on the 50 yd "rifle" range

@wynnanderson2630 Жыл бұрын

What is more incredible is that not all the shots were taken at 40 yards. 4 were taken at 22 yards, and the final 2 at 25 ft.

@tomglpn Жыл бұрын

With all the tacticool channels out there it's nice to have real information available. You and Paul Harrell are the best I have found so far

@gowilsoncombat Жыл бұрын

Glad to help

@guyschwartz1510 Жыл бұрын

agreed

@BadazzShovelhead Жыл бұрын

I’d love a video detailing people protecting their home especially with non traditional HD calibers. I have read about old ladies stopping armed intruders with 22s and 380s I think it is important to show that it is important to be armed regardless of caliber

@michaelm233 Жыл бұрын

I've watched several armed robbery videos and as soon as a defender shoots, the bad guy turns and runs away. Robbers don't stop to ask what caliber you're using. They're not expecting return fire.

@yesthanks6769 Жыл бұрын

Most important thing in a gunfight….. have a gun

@AshGreen359 Жыл бұрын

Another video for my every growing Good Guys With Guns playlist. It'll be the best response to those who say this almost never happens

@Paladin1873 Жыл бұрын

Great review. We should always be reminded that it requires more than just an armed citizen to prevail in a gunfight. It also demands proficiency and courage.

@waynecastleman1363 Жыл бұрын

For me it's a mentality, that never goes away , We don't want it to happen but we know it can and from an young age of 10 I had training in rifle procedure, we are the old school guys and we're not afraid to take care of business, let's just pray we don't have to. 🙏💪🇺🇸

@ianriordan6382 Жыл бұрын

The world is not beyond help yet. With fine young people like Mr Dickens walking the earth, we still have some hope.

@flightparamedic505 Жыл бұрын

Excellent presentation Mas!

@gowilsoncombat Жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

@AndrewSmith-rp6ee Жыл бұрын

I like how you don't pull any punches with characterizing the killers.

@paulscountry456 Жыл бұрын

The trial of Hickok in that incident was complex and as interesting as the gunfight.

@ScrappyXGC Жыл бұрын

Huh, I'll have to go looking for that. Thanks

@Lucas12v Жыл бұрын

My theory is that I'd rather be the guy who practiced at long range and needed to shoot at short range than the other way around. Even if you never need to do it, it helps with the fundamentals which carries over to short range. Plus it's fun to ring steel at 100 yards with a handgun.

@joebob617 Жыл бұрын

Great content, Mas. Much appreciated. I (for one) would love to see a segment where you discuss tactics (for a citizen armed with a handgun) in an Active Shooter scenario. Given the incidents we've seen in the last few years, and the tendency for these sick SOBs to want to copy what the last guy did - a concealed-carry defender is likely (IMHO) facing a shooter armed with a semi-auto rifle and wearing IIIA (or at least Level II) body armor. I have my own criteria to decide whether to engage or flee - as well as how one might engage a threat with a rifle and body armor - but I have no Military or LE training. I'd like to hear from some one who *is* qualified to speak on the matter. Thanks.

@thinman8621 Жыл бұрын

This is an expert sharing knowledge and wisdom. Thank you.

@gowilsoncombat Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@roykiefer7713 Жыл бұрын

Superb video, thank you Massad and Bill Wilson. Decent individuals have the moral duty to protect innocent lives; I am an older American, but I was a Naval officer for two decades. This is the ethos by which we lived. The evil-doer’s range has NOTHING to do with our ethical obligations.

@jameswhitaker1324 Жыл бұрын

There was also the 70 yard head shot by Andy Brown on the perp at the Fairchild afb hospital.

@christhomason3936 Жыл бұрын

Mr. M, You Are The Best Story Teller Around ... Thanks for All You Do To Keep Us Informed and Safer Every Day😇. (We Like to Call You Booyah) Chris and Rick From Chicago ❤️

@InCognito-yq5ew Жыл бұрын

Short or long shots, train as your life depends on it. It does.

@grigorirasputin5020 Жыл бұрын

Excellent program, Sir! It always irks me to see in comments or even a video, where some "expert" will say something like, "This gun is only accurate to 5, 10, whatever yards but if you shoot someone beyond that range, you will be answering to the DA." I always do an involuntary eye roll at a minimum. If someone is shooting at me or others from 50 yards away, I damn well want a reasonable chance of hitting him at that distance. When I began my LE career in the 1970's, every course of fire I shot, we fired at least six rounds from 50 yards at the target. Eventually, that was dumbed down to 25 yards and from there, to today's most common "standard" in my state which is 15 yards. Yes, most departments in my state only fire at a maximum distance of 15 yards with a sidearm for qualification. This is scary if you think about an officer who barely qualifies having to engage a suspect at 25 or more yards away.

@flightparamedic505 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Mas for all you do for the 2nd amendment!

@mulder4528 Жыл бұрын

Ask any rural deputy with some years on. You will likely get similar stories. It is imperative some time in training is dedicated to distance shooting. Not every fight happens in a phone booth. This is another fantastic Mas video I hope many young good people take it to heart.

@ScrappyXGC Жыл бұрын

That's strangely funny. Talking with a deputy a few years back, started carrying G23 because that was dept issue. He said sometimes he'd rather carry a 686... Like the first pistol I ever owned? He said yea with a 6" barrel. 😂He still calls me Mr ___ and I'm not much older than him. It'll take 40 min getting on it to get from one end of the county to the other and when you roll up you may have to run a couple of hundred yards because because you got there so late was the impetus for us just chewing fat.

@PPISAFETY Жыл бұрын

Speaking of rural deputies, a lot of people don't know that back in 1995, when the .357 SIG was introduced, it was aimed (no pun intended) at rural law enforcement agencies. At the time, the public had not yet fully accepted the patrol rifle in the hands of police, and part of SIG's pitch to those agencies was that the cartridge was so flat shooting and accurate that the deputy could use it in situations out to 100 yards with no rifle necessary. Of course, this completely ignored the fact that the average officer didn't have a prayer of making 100 yard hits with a handgun. But with my SIG P229 I could do it on the range all the time so the claim wasn't technically false.

@johnnylgulledge6899 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for all you do getting information to the people!

@gowilsoncombat Жыл бұрын

Our pleasure!

@jimmcfaul699 Жыл бұрын

Nice informative video. At the end of pistol range day, I always set up 2 idpa targets at 25 and 50 yards and put 50 rounds on each one. 90 percent of the rounds are A zone hits. It pays to practice long and short distance so you can be prepared.

@papimaximus95 Жыл бұрын

IDPA targets do not have A zones. You mean the "down zero" area.

@jimmcfaul699 Жыл бұрын

@@papimaximus95 I stand corrected.

@cheeseandpickles98 Жыл бұрын

God bless Eli Dicken ! all of the country will remember your good deed sir

@jimirpg01 Жыл бұрын

So many great videos on this channel. This one is historic and inspiring. Videos like this, so drastically underrated, make me grateful for the internet.

@countylineengineeringmachi2942 Жыл бұрын

Another excellent video Mr. Ayoob and Wilson Combat! The grey sport coat, burgundy dress shirt and white tie is a great look too! Pure class! I’ve gotten to almost prefer training at a bit of a distance. Usually 25 yards if I’m at my local indoor range because that is the furthest distance offered. If I’m at home (summer only…..Minnesota winters….brrrrrr!) I’m normally at 30-40 yards. After getting used to it, shorter distances are a cake walk.

@DavidLLambertmobile Жыл бұрын

A smart move if you own or live in a estate, farm 🚜, ranch etc would be to measure out distances, ranges BEFORE any lethal force event. Do a brief "rehearsal" in low light 🌃 & normal daytime. Break ins or home invasions can occur at all hours.

@countylineengineeringmachi2942 Жыл бұрын

@@DavidLLambertmobile Ya know…….that’s excellent advice and something I never considered. I’m going to take your advice and give it a whirl. Along the same lines, I’m going to plan on practicing every once in a while during the cold winters for similar reasons. Way different conditions. Cold temps, with a heavy coat on. Many thanks there guy!

@harleyquinn8202 Жыл бұрын

@@DavidLLambertmobile Also practice shooting without ear protection because you would not have a chance to put it on during a home invasion 😂😂😂 And concentrate on head shots because zombies cannot be killed otherwise.

@PurrsPlace Жыл бұрын

Hooray for 50 Critical Mas videos! Thank you, Wilson Combat, for having my favorite gun guy on so often! His book of many authors, "Straight Talk on Armed Defense: What the Experts Want You to Know" is well worth the read! =)

@jameshutchins3396 Жыл бұрын

Absolute heros

@dknollRX7 Жыл бұрын

Stephen Willeford, at the Southerland Springs church. He did an interview with Crowder, where he goes into detail about the distance and circumstances of the shooting.

@jongutmacher1277 Жыл бұрын

Really enjoyed watching this video. Also a "Hey" to Massad who I haven't seen for years.

@gowilsoncombat Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@leroymorris6036 Жыл бұрын

thats some great shooting! Some men have more talent than others with handguns but with training many can achieve it...

@billhoppe2991 Жыл бұрын

Awesome. Thanks. You'd be great at being the audio voice of Stephen Hunter's novels. I've followed your teachings since you started and am in your debt.

@gowilsoncombat Жыл бұрын

Wow, thank you!

@KP-Pro2A Жыл бұрын

That’s not how all the shots went according to the final report of the investigation. He engaged from 40 yd for his first few shots, then moved up to 25, and as the shooter was trying to retreat to the bathroom, and moved up once again to approx 10 yd, and finished his work.

@rebelscumspeedshop Жыл бұрын

You are right but many enthusiasts have a CrossFit cult mentality. So, they take it to the extreme.

@The_Kirk_Lazarus Жыл бұрын

Either way, he definitely hit his target at least a few times at the 40 yd mark.

@KP-Pro2A Жыл бұрын

@@The_Kirk_Lazarus that kid has my forever respect.

@KP-Pro2A Жыл бұрын

@@rebelscumspeedshop people were just going by the initial details. If you ask me, shooting and moving and still getting hits is as difficult as the initial longer shots he took. Hand of god on his shoulder that day.

@jonathanmcmillion4148 Жыл бұрын

My OIS in ‘02 was more than 35 yards, on a running man armed with a Taurus .357 magnum. One round from my P226 .357 Sig stopped him from trying to shoot at me again.

@harrydexter8426 Жыл бұрын

Excellent documentation on previous shootings. Thank you!👍😊🇺🇸

@gowilsoncombat Жыл бұрын

Our pleasure!

@BearPapa49 Жыл бұрын

Good history info. Thank you

@tmaddrummer Жыл бұрын

About 48 years ago, just as I was so captivated sitting in class during my first Academy, you put me right back in that frame of mind. Thanks and Blessings Mas!

@JohnDoe-fu6zt Жыл бұрын

While Dickens's first shot was from 40 yards, his subsequent shots were from decreasing distances. As he engaged the killer, Dickens CLOSED THE DISTACE, firing as he advanced. This shows excellent tactical instincts and skill. Delivering accurate fire while moving forward is a lot harder than it may sound if you've never tried it: it takes practice. I believe Dickens had no formal training. An amazing performance by a real hero. Anyway, if anyone is doing a "Dickens Drill," you should do it while advancing on your target.

@stevenlord782 Жыл бұрын

When Mr Ayoob talks, the drinking glasses on my table vibrate.

@richhauxwell7848 Жыл бұрын

Know your equipment and your limitations. At the end of the day skills are King.

@mrkrucks724 Жыл бұрын

No you accquire the Skill then at the end of the day Speed is King...

@sombra6153 Жыл бұрын

I read recently that Eli first engaged from cover and concealment, supported, with a G19 - fired 4 rounds, 2 hit the murder and two missed. Friendlies then ran in front of Eli and he moved closer to about 25 yards and fired 4 more, scoring hits. Then he moved to within 25 feet and fired his last 2 and then the murderer was no longer a danger to anyone else. Shooting at 25+ yards with a handgun is not outside it’s accuracy capabilities, although distance messes with the person shooting the handgun.

@donaldflynn2899 Жыл бұрын

i can sit and listen to you all day the amount of knowledge and clarity in your videos are amazing im new in the firearm world about 3 yrs in and listen to all your videos . thank u for who u are

@GlennCJudah Жыл бұрын

Goodness ! Thanks for sharing these with your audiences!!

@craigadamkelly Жыл бұрын

May God bless honest hard-working men that train and carry for moments just like these

@waynecassels3607 Жыл бұрын

Great presentation. May God bless all those American heros and others who run towards danger.

@paulis7319 Жыл бұрын

I wish someone could interview Mr. Dicken. It would be interesting to hear his point of view.

@ScrappyXGC Жыл бұрын

You have to be careful about asking. DA's change and TMI can be used for Mens rea

@eddiexoc8430 Жыл бұрын

Another excellent video. Thank you.

@nasserkuzbari2205 Жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@markyoung2981 Жыл бұрын

Excellent presentation, thank you for your time posting this important information.

@charlesward8196 Жыл бұрын

The “Dicken Drill” is my standard practice now. I use a TRANSTAR 1 “half-size” silhouette at 25 yards, the longest range at the facility, to simulate a 50-yard target, fire “8 + 1” on a 10-second facing, and reload. I figure if the orchestra starts playing “Swan Lake,” my compact DA-SA pistol will be seriously outmatched by a modern sporting rifle, and surprise, distance and cover will be critical tactical elements to reduce the disadvantage. My full-size, double stack, 15 +1 would be nice, but is too large to CC in my typical environment and dress options.

@zethseth6856 Жыл бұрын

This has to be one of my favorite videos, there are a lot of events people don't talk about, so it's nice to hear these stories retold in such a heroic a manner great job guys

@AHandleOnThings Жыл бұрын

Better count Massad Ayoob as an American hero too IMO... Smart guy with common sense giving FREE top shelf advice and cutting through ALL the crap. Invaluable. Thanks Massad.

@casandrabarnes-oq9fy Жыл бұрын

I'm a 73 y/o woman who carries a Smith and Wesson 38 everywhere I go. I'm at the gun range once a week. My father was a homicide detective in Chicago in the 1960s and 70s so I'm comfortable with firearms. Now I live in Houston Texas. Need I Say more?!

@colt45acp1000 Жыл бұрын

Mad, I’ve been reading you for years, and have learned a lot! Thank you for sharing your expertise!

@Ed-ig7fj Жыл бұрын

Great video--thanks, Mas. A couple of quotations come to mind after watching this: "We must all be ready for that day we pray never comes." --Charles Cotton, President NRA, Nov. 2022 issue American Rifleman; and Officer Greg (You Tube channel) printed on a T-shirt: "Nobody is coming. It's up to you." Stay safe! --Old Guy

@gowilsoncombat Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

@redtomcat1725 Жыл бұрын

Great report, thank you all !!!

@hoosierdaddy2308 Жыл бұрын

Yep. I live in the town that this young hero is from, and I used to live across the street from the Greenwood mall when which is near Indianapolis. I always have practiced at close and FAR shots. You never know when you'll need that marksmanship. The Charles Whitman was absolutely stopped by Armed citizens. Great video. Thank you sir! This is a great video.

@navchaps3449 Жыл бұрын

Thanx Mas! Great, as usual. All the examples go beyond self defense and illustrate defense of others, Wild Bill being the exception. It seems to me that defense of others is a different game in terms of training, mindset, and legal issues. I would be interested to hear your reflections on the differences between self defense and defense of others.

@user60521123 Жыл бұрын

Our culture has to start including citizens as first responders. I think the public is hungry for a transformation to a society that’s better prepared for black swan events. We all need to push for policies that allow people to have the skills and tools to make that transformation, instead of treating us like children out of fear of lawsuits.

@leroymorris6036 Жыл бұрын

Thank you sir.

@ronaldbrown5796 Жыл бұрын

good info. keep up the research massad

@irafowlerjr.7492 Жыл бұрын

Thank you, life saving material.

@bernardhayes4459 Жыл бұрын

Great info Massad, thank you

@kennyellis5535 Жыл бұрын

Great video A lot of information that I have not heard before Really appreciate your time and expertise opinion on these situations

@chrisphillips490 Жыл бұрын

Very informative. Thank you!

@kubikariYOU Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing, I always enjoy your videos.

@RooRguy27 Жыл бұрын

These videos are the best. Thanks guys

@dustysavoy6951 Жыл бұрын

There are alot of people who pay $5K to go on cruise ships, guided hunts, etc... I would pay this just to spend an evening sitting around a campfire with Mas and a few of his companions sharing their stories and views on different things.... not to mention some personal training from Mas. My uncle had many different gun mag subscriptions, Guns & Ammo, American Handgunner, etc...and he had thousands of issues that he passed onto me when he was through with em. I have been reading Mas' work in different publications since I was 10 years old....

@shooterqqqq Жыл бұрын

Join the NRA. All of these writers are at the annual convention.

@hughsavage2136 Жыл бұрын

Just a wonderful commentary. Thank you. 😊

@ericbertoch673 Жыл бұрын

Outstanding as always! Thanks Mas!

@gowilsoncombat Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@kc0lif Жыл бұрын

thank you for your knowledge massad and real stories.

@beardedred0032 Жыл бұрын

This was excellent. Thank you

@bullaaron Жыл бұрын

Great video as always!

@gowilsoncombat Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed!

@ctrguy9502 Жыл бұрын

I sure love the irrefutable historical stories & facts that u share with us!! These people are absolute heroes as well as being inarguable. The brave historical stories you share from memory are even more impressive & poignant example of why 2A is so critical to a safe, thriving society!!🤙🤙♥️♥️😎😎