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Man, I am so shocked at how many people forgot that Blizzard Devs said that Overwatch 1 and Overwatch 2 players were going to be able to play together. It never happened.

I wish Blizzard would sell me the rights to Winston. I would treat him well and love him very much

I saw a post about real-life weapon charm cost $5, yeah, $2 cheaper than the ingame one.

ur gonna make me cry dammit

I think this video was made long before all the recent layoffs. That ending is way too optimistic 💀

My favorite part of OW2 is how they deleted the game I paid for and replaced it with something I didn't ask for or want. They didn't keep OW1 because they knew no one would play the absolute piece of dog shit OW2 turned into.

Ow1 release was some of the best times I had in gaming. It was fresh and exciting, I was super addicted. I stopped playing during goats, but returned shortly after the meta switched. I then met someone I fell in love with who just happened to love overwatch and was the same rank as me! We would sit side by side and play together all morning and night. Some of my fondest memories in any game ever.

You forgot to mention that when we got OW2, all old OW coins you had to pay for (or farmed up) turned into these free-to-play coins which you can use for virtually NOTHING.

Man I feel so bad for Aaron, Captain Jeff saw the approaching storm and jumped ship, and then Admiral Kotick slapped the Captains hat on Aarons head while they were half way underwater.

Summer of 2016 was a magical time.

Update - Overwatch 2 PVE is reportedly entirely cancelled lol

21:48 speaking of keychain fun fact the $7 marshmallow with tentacles whatever it's called charm cost $2 more than the real life version that Blizzard selling

That hanzo skin concept was awesome

I've never played Overwatch but man , the story of its inception , rise and fall is super interesting.

For me the switch to 5s from 6s just destroyed my interest in the game. I had a discord friend group of people i met playing OW, just the 6 of us strangers (one was my friend from high school but i digress) and rather than kick someone out we all just sort of stopped playing. Sad as that is I also just loved the tank and off tank dynamic. Having that other tank that was just ride or die with you regardless of what the rest of the team was doing was special. Then they just reworked the characters that made double tank a problem anyways, it doesn't make sense and i just wish i could have the original game back.

THAT OHNICKEL REFERENCE IS INSANE! I totally forgot about his channel and I was the exact same way binging his content on sombra updates

I absolutely love that all your videos that critique have an upshot and genuine advice on improvements at the end. Rockstar and blizzard should have you on advisory retainer

I nearly busted a gut when you sat down and said, "Hi, I'm Paul." So many childhood memories of watching TV came flooding back.

tf2 and CS are both games that launched without a campaign and were online only, titanfall, rust. there were plenty of online only campaign-less games.

"Maybe things will get better know." And then PVE died 100%. Just when you get the slightest optimism...

27:46 Former overwatch community manager andy belford talked about this on twitter, he begged for more info and resources but all were denied by someone, now who could that someone be ? Of course it was the big bad goblin bobby

lol this video could've been like 3 seconds long where jack just says 'yes'

Yes, Overwatch 2 has been ruined

I remember when I was playing overwatch 2 with my friends and spent so much hours on the game and still didn’t get Kiriko. Having hero’s behind a paywall or spending consistent hours to get it was not it 🤦‍♂️

I am consistently blown away by how polished and entertaining your videos are even since your first upload (well maybe not the _first_ upload)

I played Overwatch 1 for years and somehow made it through the content drought. Overwatch 2 was so disappointing-- so many broken promises and monetization schemes-- that I quit the game after 1000+ hours on Ana. I've now moved on to single-player games; but watching this video leaves me equally parts nostalgic and sad.

I just want to say you've become one of my favorite KZfaqrs so fast to watch on these kind of subjects. You've got a good script and an appealing edit style. I also like how you don't 'reach' for conclusions just to spit some hot take out there for shock value. You remind me a lot of NakeyJakey and I wouldn't be surprised if your channel grows to the size of his. I'll be here for that ride. Keep up the good work Jack. Hope I meet you one day.

ohnickel reference sent me back a few years... great video!!

This game is completely garbage. The developers just released Overwatch 1 again, the false promises they made were saddening.

Short answer: "Yes" Long answer: "Yeah, and you can't stop me."

Holy shit I had no idea they locked heroes behind a paywall now. That is fucking disgusting.

i really, really miss the old maps :( to this day whenever i think of overwatch, the old maps instantly pop into my head and i'm all like "oh man i wanna go play some overwatch" and then i remember many of those maps Do Not Exist (at least in normals) anymore and i'm never gonna get to play another game on them.

You really hit me with the Ratatouille flashback when you said “Hi I’m Paul” jimmy neutron was goated. Gotta blast!

i got into overwatch in 7th grade when i was like 13-14. It was bascially my main game, loved grinding for the lootboxes and the events. Eventually i stopped playing and caring during GOATS meta. Sucks to see it like this

Very entertaining video! On a random sidenote: if you want to get rid of the audio artifacting, try exporting the video with PCM rather than AAC audio. In DaVinci, you can do it by exporting the video as a quicktime file with h.264 compression. In premiere... don't know. Click buttons ;) Assuming you record in 24 Bit, you can get the full quality. The issue was driving me nuts and by chance I stumbled upon the fix. Thought I might share. Cheers!

Remember back when Overwatch released and had lootboxes people at the time non-stop raged and complained about the lootbox micro transactions. Nowadays people just want to go BACK to lootboxes since it was still easy to earn cosmetic items passively through just playing. In reality we won't be able to go back to that and soon we'll learn to just sit down and shut up and go with battlepasses instead as they move on to the next more scummy mechanic. Just saying "vote with your wallet" won't work anymore, since there are many whales who will continue regardless of community outrage.

Jack, I am so happy you are talking about this. I literally had 1400 hours in the first iteration of Overwatch. Was actually addicted to the game and had to quit it for similar reasons. It is actually astonishing how Overwatch "2", which can hardly be considered a sequel-in fact, I am old enough to know it took stuff away before it added anything, was able to be such an insult that I have no problem looking back now. Lootboxes, 15 dollar skins, transitoned into a disgusting battlepass system, removed the potential of PvE (literally the only reason we had a sequel outside of manufacturing player counts), all contributed to this games death. I am actually astonished it had as many players as it had until recently. Overwatch nosedived straight into the shallow end, cracked its skull on the pool liner, and resurfaced from the water concussed speaking gibberish about a battlepass. 5v5 may be a interesting dynamic but it effectively streamlined all roles towards aggro, which was a surmounting issue for new heroes back when it was 6v6. Blizzard has destroyed their legacy, tainted their IPs, and Overwatch was no exception. Its fall was just long and slow. Like someone injected cancer into it and then let it rot.

i hope they actually take your ideas in to consideration they're truly brilliant! as someone that plays it almost everyday i wish there were some longterm goals to achieve, i got an exclusive player card title for winning 500 mystery hero games so they kind of have it but a whole skin now that would be so much more rewarding

The biggest shows of goodwill that can bring me back is: a founders pass for OW1 players and it's just the OW1 skins and every new hero for a good few seasons. And a permanent and maintained 6v6 game mode, even if it's just the original cast and the last OW1 patch. I know a lot of people like the new mode, but I miss 2 tank synergy.

I still miss my first overwatch 1 account

The Overwatch 1 Beta was one of the best experiences I have ever had in gaming, just playing tracer and soldier 76 in the tutorial was so satisfying

I enjoy the idea of just working for rewards. Like how you have to get specific gun skins in COD by doing challenges. Cause then I have an actual reason to try out different guns and such. I love Apex Legend’s weekly challenges for the battle pass cause then it forces me to play with shotguns more or snipers which I rarely use. Then I actually find myself having fun experimenting with load outs.

it baffles me that Apex Legends, a game owned by EA, has it that you can get your apex coins back from the Battlepass + a little more coins than u originally paid for, since pretty much the day apex launched. But Blizzard still hasn't done that for over a year after Overwatch 2 released, but instead u get some lesser coins u can spend on some old Overwatch 1 skins.

I'm so happy your RDR online video blew up and it enabled you to take up KZfaq full time, your style is fresh and unique and I'm always excited when I see a notification that you've uploaded a new video 😊

The only way they're getting me back is if they replace every single character with Junkrat

you know.. OW1 matches gave you 25 coins per game, regardless of win or loss. OW1 also had Portrait Borders that lvled with your account level.. hell even OW1's On-Fire had a small bar below your name/icon+ a Number Point Value Display.. all of that is gone. also the thing is that Aaron Keller seeing the Steam Launch as an Success :/

8:55 weather effects for maps were intended for PvE too, they said they weren't gonna mess with it in PvP

I gave up on this game when I tried to transfer all of my skins from season 1 of overwatch to this pos and i lost everything and it basically deleted it all

Halfway through the video I forgot that those aren't his ears

I really loved your hanzo skin illustration. I wish you would incorporate some of your digital design skills into more of your videos! You’re very talented. Loving the more frequent uploads btw :-)

Season 9 seems pretty drastic

I love your spread on game coverage! It's a breath of fresh air to have someone cover the games I care about that isn't a pundit for that particular genre and is more akin to just a regular guy who enjoys games with his friends.

Your experience and opinions of overwatch mirror mine almost exactly. Also that Hanzo skin concept sketch was pretty cool.

this made me so nostalgic for 2017-18 overwatch. the game was everywhere, had a huge playerbase, felt fresh, had unique collabs like pink mercy and nano cola dva stand out in my mind!

Meta was ruined by bad support design from day one. Everybody wanted to be the dps hero and parties were unbalanced. They started adding lame broken healers (Ana was actually an exceptional design) then boring tanks, lots of shields.. all the meta was ruined, games were a coinflip

Just got back into Overwatch a few days ago after taking a break the past few years, and been waiting on a new Jack video. What a glorious day to open the KZfaq app

When I went to try it none of my progress carried over so the odds of me actually playing OW2 is pretty damn low.

one more thing to mention about the recent skins is that they are mostly recolors of older skins being sold for around 15 bucks. and the newer mythic skins are lacking in variety, if u compare the combos u can do with genjis mythic skin with hanzos u will see that with hanzo u have very little choices and combos u can make.

i love that bobby kotic was in the movie moneyball and played the role as the owner of the oakland A's and when the manager asked for more money to buy more players he basically said "no ur good" bro probably wasn't even acting

Great video! Been playing Overwatch since 2018 through the dead years even and it has been a roller coaster of a game. The recent layoffs are unfortunately timed with the release of this video. Would have been a nice (depressing) addition to the end. Definitely would make me lean more towards a yes.

Remember when I used to play Overwatch, the main thing to look forward to, was those seasonal events, but as soon those events was over, the game became very stale for me and my friends that I played with... but even without those events, it was still hella fun, I never forget those moments

whos here after the developer update?

27:45 a side note, there are 2 months between may and august. August is not after May.

27:30 That "player counter" is a complete fabrication. Even Steam has less than 20k and a substantial portion of players come from there. If you look into custom games browser it's obvious there's nowhere near 800k+ players in the game, even when Overwatch was at its peak I'm sus whether it quite reached 800k at the same time. If you divide 800k by 10 you might get a more realistic answer across all platforms. And I say this as someone with 1000 hours in the game (OW1 mostly)

Man I always get excited for your new videos, keep up the great work buddy

i had alot of fun with overwatch back in its early days but once people figured all counters and started sweating, counter picking over and over killed the fun for me

Blizzard really went "We're going to alter a game you paid for with a subpar product making the game worse overall without your permission, and you will have to pay to play it as you did before."

Never got into overwatch. When the second one came out and there was a campaign rumored, i was prepared to become a fan only to find its the same game, no singleplayer and its even harder to get cosmetics and I dont buy battle passes. Game was fumbled so hard and i feel for the fans who played ow1 from the beginning

hey Jack! I just wanted to say that i didn’t get the monkey reference. Can you please make a follow up video explaining it? ❤❤❤

I knew it would be trash once I heard they said that the first game could play with the second. You literally have to change just about nothing to be able to do that

Just an FYI as someone that played it at launch; it started at $60. It was only $40 on sale, and while it did go on sale often it wasn't on sale [especially near launch] always and the price point to buy it on x-box was $60 - I know because that's what I paid for it lol.

videos like this are so important man. great work. we can’t let these greedy companies think we just forgot about this type of stuff.

Dude your videos have been so on point, from the presentation of the whole story, to the set design (banana on desk), you've been killing it and I can't wait to see more! Also those ohnickel sombra lore videos were so dope, bring me back man..

fffffffff I totally forgot about Bastion's cinematic 😭

I haven't heard many people mention that Blizzard offered early access to PvE content for $40 and didn't refund anybody when they didn't create it.

The tie up with Cyber Punk and No Man's Sky as examples of redemption is a good end point 🙏

OG Overwatch, was the greatest it ever was, s1 - s7 then it was ALL downhill. It will never be the same and OW2 is a shell of its former self. Their skin game too has fallen so damn hard, most the skins are so damn ugly and just lack luster.

Were those "sales" offered on the first day the skin bundles were put on the store? Because it's actually illegal to pretend to give a sale when the "sale" price is just the normal price. Fallout 76 got slammed for pulling this shit on the atom shop.

I had played Overwatch for years. I was just playing casually with a group of online “friends”. I was just in plat for most of that time. After Overwatch 2 came out, I decided I wanted to buckle down and get good. I got to masters. But I got bullied and harassed off the game by said “friend” group because I got ranked higher than a few people who thought me inferior. Stalked in game. Threats out of game ect. Decided it wasn’t worth it and quit. Such a toxic community

"The art direction is superb to this day" Lmao and then they release venture.

If memory serves, the major selling points for OW2 was the pve modes (i believe 4 sets were promised. And i believe only 1 has been put into the game this far), and a graphical improvement. The pitch was that OW2 was a choice, and OW1 players could still play alongaide OW2 players.

28:55 "I actually love playing tank" That makes one of us. I personally do not like to be subjected to every debuff and cc and damage known to mankind, coming from a tank player.

I really like the idea to earn exclusive skins by completing challenges. So many other games do it, it's always cool when you can display your achievements in-game, like when Battlefield had dogtags or Call of Duty with its weapon skins. There actually used to be limited time events that rewarded players with exclusive sprays, player icons and Epic skins if they won a certain amount of games before the event ended. It was the bare minimum to motivate players, but it worked. I remember sometimes me and my friends would be ready to call it a day, but then we'd see we were one or two games off of getting the skin and decided to queue up again.

28:22 (His buddy mentioning the total player-count number stats) Please don't rely on the total play-count websites. The reason is: There is no actual publicly available information on how the game is doing on consoles I believe. Some of those websites usually don't list the source for the numbers because they are not based on a real statistic... but some of them do specify that the numbers are based on history/predictions/speculation/assumptions - which basically means no actual real-time stats was used in them. There is no objective way to confirm those numbers. The most objective you can get with the stats currently is: Steam stats, Twitch stats, Google Trends.

I wouldn’t expect the acquisition by Microsoft to change anything. Since they spent $68 billion, they’re going to want to recoup that investment…so the milking will continue.

I borderline dedicated my adolescence until my early college years to overwatch. This game genuinely made me depressed and it felt like a toxic breakup moving on from it finally. I played this game competitively, I scrimmed it, I even played at a Lan with my collegiate team. It's a shame.

Fun fact: the battle passes in OW2 didn’t originally even offer currency back- they started adding currency into them AFTER people complained about the lack of that detail. And when they added the currency, not only was it the FREE currency, it was colored yellow to look nearly indistinguishable from the premium currency! Which is what tricked me and many others into buying that battle pass. And guess what, now it’s colored white to differentiate it. But guess what again, they never refunded it to those of us who got scammed. Actual con artists.

You say 'The Goblin is Gone'...that with Bobby Kotick gone, they can get back to their old ways and forget being so money-hungry. But Microsoft owns them now...M$...they have traded a 'goblin' for an 'overlord'.

Challanges in ow 2 can be done in 1-3 matches. In case of 32:00 in this season there was a lot of sytuations where tank quit game coze was hard countered by Mauga just to re-join game and pick Mauga, yeah PPL quit game to buy battlepass for hero!! That's crazy! The case with 2020 last hero, echo was support till 2days before relise.

Man this game has a history of his own, but ive started playing this when it became free to play and i cant stop playing because its just too fun....

The truly sad part is this game somehow beat out Battleborn

Cant believe bro is nostalgic for loot boxes lmfao

You're take on skins with goals attached is perfect. its like calling cards from COD.

I gotta say, you really have the most pleasant video style and narrating voice on youtube at the moment! Keep it up good man, you deserve it all.

I left OW when Echo was released and OW 2 announced. I knew this will go nowhere. After that I focused on Rainbow Six but that didn't last long for me either. So I got back into Paradox games and nowdays I just jump from game to game playing everything and anything. I miss the time where I could play one game over weeks without getting bored.

How does this not even mention the instant 1900 people layoff of senior devs and artists and the appointment of previous CoD director as head of Blizzard?! I was sure that the "the foblin is no longer here" was foreshadowing. Like the game is so effed now. The team just started to get the hang of where they want to go, they started doing small improvements and now BAM

Opening up with the "Hi, I'm Paul" from the DNA Prouductions reel at the end of Jimmy Neutron episodes unlocked a core memory. Watching this video also unfortunately unlocked memories of how good Overwatch used to be, and how far it has strayed from that game. I guess we got a double edged sword today!

Now you get 600Premium currency for completing a whole battle pass. That is still not enough to buy the next battle pass, and is less than half the amount needed to buy a legendary...DESPITE BOBBY BEING GONE. UGH.

Thank you Jack for the Fallout 3 reference @29:48, ( This is Threedog OOOUUUH, and your listening to Galaxy News Radio) keep up the amazing and high quality video's :)